commission received a memo september 23rd saying the federal head start program selected wu yee as the existing operator for the head start program. it wasn't selecting wu yee. there is a federal head start program that selected the program operator and when that decision was made it went to the south commission which our staff have talked to those commissioners and the folks responding to that memo. there is no action the commission was making. it was the replacement of the operator and the existing foot print. who years ago we talked about all of these tennants at the community's southeast commission. the head start program was always clearly going to remain as a program out of the southeast community center. so we talked about the tennants and the pace that city college has asked for it's always been baseline the head start program was going to be there and all the information we got from the community requested that subsidized child care is happening in the center. >> from my understanding from dr. jackson is she's only concerned about the expansion of from what it was and the expansion of the additional 3450 square feet. >> yes. >> but all the other questions you are talking about wu yee is a head start program that what the community wants. i just want to clarify because you made it seem we are doing other stuff. all right. got it. dully noted. >> i'm talking about the space, the foot print. thanks very much. i don't want to see that change. >> it's the existing foot print. >> okay. i will make sure to go there and verify it. >> who was the previous operator of that state? >> it was san francisco state. >> san francisco state provided the subsidized child care services in the exact 3450 square feet. when did they vacate? >> it was some time ago. i don't know how long it was vacant. >> we'll come back with facts instead of just guessing. do we have to -- >> i have another speaker to call out as well. >> can that information be gotten before the end of the meeting? >> well for me to verify, i can leave and come back. by the way, it's 4-4. >> president ann moller caen: may i call robert woods, please. >> good afternoon commissioners. my name is robert woods of human rights leadership council. i'm going to take you back some years ago as a freshman in college. it's an old civil rights trick that we all had to learn if you ever want to change or redefine a person or police, you change the name. you redefine that person or redefine that space and i look at this when i see southeast community facility and don't see southeast community college facility. you that take me back to my freshman year in college where you are redefining something that was not there at first. now you redefined it where if you mention it enough times it becomes acceptable. so, i want to go back and say a couple things. the mou, wr -- we are in the process, the community have not put their portion of the mou together in terms of how that facility is going to be used. mou is not a one way street for the powerful. mou is something where everybody gets a chance to participate in and put their input in and then they negotiate. the other thing is in mitigation, at -- tit for at at -- i see we are not getting a fair shake in that building because we were given this building under mitigation and it was a tit for at . i think it needs to be clarified and we need to stop whatever we are doing out there in terms of what we are putting in demands in and big daddy knows what's best for us out there, no. it doesn't work like that. we will have a say so in our community and we are not getting that, and is this what you all want us to do? you want us to lay down tell-tale to whatever you put on us? please, don't do that to us. we come down here and ask for a fair shake on whatever this city wants to do out there. we say we want to be a part of it and by dictating to us what you are going to do is not a fair shake. that is not in contrast with the mou which is there are exchanges in the mitigation. so i say to you, let's be up front and let's work together. if we can't do that, if we have to fight, then let's put on our boxing gloves and let's fight then while we are talking, let's talk while we are talking. thank you. >> i'm unclear about what's going on here. my understanding was this was a calendar item that head start was a program that two 2 years ago was approved by the southeast commission, by the community to continue their services and that they had an operator that provide child care to community members who needed it and there has been a change of operator from what i understand and this item is only to approve that change in operator that is head start selected and an existing provision of services with a different operator. >> that is what my understanding is, however what they have articulated from my understanding is that the lease says additional 3450 and they are wondering where that additional 3,000 is come from. my staff is saying -- >> it doesn't say additional on my copy. it says use of approximately. >> they did not have that. >> can we continue this meeting? we have to go back and say what the space is before. >> i'm representing if it's the same square footage and if it makes dr. jackson and members of the community more comfortable. i'm more happy to give the comparison of the two leases. this is a replacement operator for an existing space. >> can i make a recommendation so that we can move forward on this item is that why don't the commission approve this item and make sure that it is the same foot print as the previous with the condition that the foot print of this new lease is the same as the old one. >> so moved. >> you have to say it. >> i would like to move that this item be approved under the condition that it is the same foot print as the previous lease and this is just simply a change in operator as selected by head start. >> so i have a point of clarification. because i'm prepared to second that motion. necessity -- in the event that we find any discrepancy at all times, can we look forward to seeing this come before us again? in addition to that, is there any way we can communicate to the southeast commission, well, whatever, let's communicate to them that this conversation took place, that we made this motion and probably passed it and we'll get to the bottom of this either right here right now or in our next meeting. >> second. >> so, mr. decosta, please speak >> commissioners, let me state something categorically. this commission did not pay detail attention when one of the deans was there, the southeast. committed so the very nefarious activities for which she was removed. this is what perturbs the community when we see any changes made irrespective of whether they are holistic or not and if they are not brought before the community in a wholesome manner, it disturbs us. so, we really -- i don't care if the assistant general manager for external affairs calls here and says anything. i don't believe her. i simply don't believe her because her actions in the past has not been wholesome. she was brought before the committee. and a dark cloud, a sad day for an advocate. i don't go to the southeast commission meetings. why? look at the people who are appointed. look at the chair. she doesn't even understand english. so you go there to blah blah blah whatever, you might have chickens cackling there. we need to treat the community with respect. fault not really there, but over here. so here the general manager has to stop and say i will go measure the footage. somebody else says, i will make a resolution that if it's that footage then everything is okay, if it's not that footage, then what? the simple way of addressing any of the benefits that were brought about to mitigation is to have a very wholesome meaningful discussion in the community. that's not happening. that's all i want to say. every time we come here, we don't want to fight. we have to agree. and even if we disagree, we have to sit down and go to a better place. so that's all i have to say. finally, that space is for our children. whoever is the new operator, he better treat our children to the best of his ability or her ability. thank you very much. >> commissioners, we have an amended motion on the floor. i would like to call for the vote on the amended motion. all in favor say, "aye". >> aye. >> any opposed? the motion carries. now i would like to have a motion for the original resolutions. >> so moved. >> second. all in favor say, "aye". >> aye. >> any opposed? the motion carries. very good. let's move on to item 10. city clerk: item 10, authorize the general manager to execute the gas pipeline cross bore agreement. >> good afternoon. deputy general manager to authorize pg & e crews to work on the gas pipeline and when it occurs it might interfere with our -- assets. we have been working with them and want to work with them in the form of an mou. >> questions, comments, motion please. >> so moved. >> second. >> all in favor say, "aye". >> aye. >> any opposed? the motion carries. item 11. public comment? is there any additional public comment? seeing none, public comment is closed. item 11. city clerk: item 11. approve amendment no. 3 to fremont no. 9s 108. >> second. all in favor say, "aye". >> aye. >> any opposed? motion carries. is there any additional public comment? seeing none, public comment is closed. item 12, city clerk: approve the terms and conditions and authorize the general manager to enter into an agreement to sell and vacate an approximately 999 square feet. >> do you have any questions, comments. >> motion. >> second. >> all in favor say, "aye". >> aye. >> any opposed? the motion carries. thank you. okay, could you read the items for closed session. >> city clerk: item 15, existing litigation with san francisco pacific rod and gun club. item 16 conference with legal counsel san francisco administrative code section 67.10. >> item 17, existing litigation pacific gas and electric company, item 18 san francisco versus pacific gas and electric company. item 19. and item 20 is not going to be heard. >> is there any additional public comment? seeing none, public comment is closed. all in favor say, "aye". >> aye. >> any opposed? we are now going into closed [ gavel ] >> >> the commission has reconvened after closed session. the announcement following closed session is the following. 15 no action, 16 settled. 17, 18, 19 no action. may i have a motion whether or not to disclose? >> motion to not disclose. >> all in favor say, "aye". >> aye. >> any opposed? >> motion carries. any other business. >> before we had our election today i had a couple of pending matters to get on the agenda. some of them are more procedural in nature. some of them are pretty substantive related to workforce, development and training but some of the communication between staff and individual commissioners, i would like to see change a little bit. i was talng more along the lines of direct communication regarding official announcements and puc sponsored events for each commissioner to communicate and related to emergency type things but also ground breaking things in our construction issues and finally there are items pending right now that hopefully we'll discuss with chairwoman caen related to our workforce development and training. >> good suggestion. do you have anything? >> madam chair? >> so, with that being said. this meaning is convened at 4:00. [ meeting is adjourned ] >> >> >> i love teaching. it is such an exhilarating experience when people began to feel their own creativity. >> this really is a place where all people can come and take a class and fill part of the community. this is very enriching as an artist. a lot of folks take these classes and take their digital imagery and turn it into negatives. >> there are not many black and white darkrooms available anymore. that is a really big draw. >> this is a signature piece. this is the bill largest darkroom in the u.s.. >> there are a lot of people that want to get into that dark room. >> i think it is the heart of this place. you feel it when you come in. >> the people who just started taking pictures, so this is really an intersection for many generations of photographers and this is a great place to learn because if you need people from different areas and also everyone who works here is working in photography. >> we get to build the community here. this is different. first of all, this is a great location. it is in a less-populated area. >> of lot of people come here just so that they can participate in this program. it is a great opportunity for people who have a little bit of photographic experience. the people have a lot, they can really come together and share a love and a passion. >> we offer everything from traditional black and white darkrooms to learning how to process your first roll of film. we offer classes and workshops in digital camera, digital printing. we offer classes basically in the shooting, ton the town at night, treasure island. there is a way for the programs exploring everyone who would like to spend the day on this program. >> hello, my name is jennifer. >> my name is simone. we are going on a field trip to take pictures up the hill. >> c'mon, c'mon, c'mon. >> actually, i have been here a lot. i have never looked closely enough to see everything. now, i get to take pictures. >> we want to try to get them to be more creative with it. we let them to be free with them but at the same time, we give them a little bit of direction. >> you can focus in here. >> that was cool. >> if you see that? >> behind the city, behind the houses, behind those hills. the see any more hills? >> these kids are wonderful. they get to explore, they get to see different things. >> we let them explore a little bit. they get their best. if their parents ever ask, we can learn -- they can say that they learned about the depth of field or the rule of thirds or that the shadows can give a good contrast. some of the things they come up with are fantastic. that is what we're trying to encourage. these kids can bring up the creativity and also the love for photography. >> a lot of people come into my classes and they don't feel like they really are creative and through the process of working and showing them and giving them some tips and ideas. >> this is kind of the best kept secret. you should come on and take a class. we have orientations on most saturdays. this is a really wonderful location and is the real jewel to the community. >> ready to develop your photography skills? the harvey milk photo center focuses on adult classes. and saturday workshops expose youth and adults to photography classes. >> good morning, everyone, and welcome to the thursday, october second, meeting of the board of supervisors neighborhood services and safety committee. my name is david campos, and i am the chair of the committee. today we are joined by committee members, supervisor more norman yee, and eric mar is in route, we would like to thank those covering the meeting, the clerk of the committee is derek evans and i want to note that we have in the audience former mayor, art, d