Tonight. Mr. Duffey anything further. Im sorry. Ill hear from the permit holder next. Were ready for your rebuttal. 6 minutes i know things might have been done but again were discussing the same privilege they want 24 inches from the bottom were willing to give that to them. In those plans they were submitted to disallow before that meeting at the building department. Before we submitted we called them again and said fine. We met that day it showed 24 inches. Fine well label the section this is the copy of the approved plans that specifically show the 24 inches from the bottom of theyre under pinning. I showed them back to a him and he agreed. He didnt say anything he look at it and we preceded with our application and the next thing we heard was an appeal. So again, i have to grant to them that weve been trying to they have not happened the way they should have one hundred percent on their part. The meat of the problem is the 24 inches. We dont want to see this drug on another 3 months. Now the fact that this foundation for the type of soils im not a sole loose engineer but the opinions that mines before you have a Standard Foundation which was a little bit deeper so youre spreading the forces of the building on specific areas. N this map foundation and my engineer can correct me if i am wrong. This provides a more steadier foundation and if you want to require a new report it would be point less but the map foundation spreads the weight more evenly on that soil. 24 is better defined than the previous one. Thank you. And heres the previous plans you want to show us on the overhead . Just the relevant portion bring it down. Excuse me. But youve presented to the commission . Ho hold it this way. Got it . Yeah, so were looking at this wall section number 3 for the Cross Section occurs. This 24 was put in there by myself with the authorization of tim sullivan. After i marked it i shimmed does this satisfy our concerns were building less than 24 inches he didnt make any comments so i dont know if he agreed or disagreed. So the next thing we heard is an appeal have those approved. Yes. So were they restamped again. We hadnt started the permitting process yet we met with the gentleman to make sure he was okay with the information as shown on there. He then at that moment pointed out it wasnt clear so i asked if i add those dimensions would that satisfy and he said, yes. And i showed it to him and like i said he didnt express any way mr. Whether in agreement or not. We went upstairs and got the plans approved okay. Thank you. Unless someone asks you a question. Were ready for mr. Duffey sorry commissioners. When you start off with a jurisdiction request i think were jumping from the third and back i take it confusing ill try my best as well. I want to say one of the comments he wants the permit resented for appeal number 8 a which was permit application 2017167. Thats a permit to obtain a final spriks for the application which is for the underpinning protection for soil. They said the work was bun done and never got to signed off and now theyre saying theyre going to get it finished. And theres outstanding plans. It was part of the plan for the underpinning occurred whether it was at the rear of the site or on the south Property Line or north Property Line it needs to get closed out. Im assuming the work got done but i wouldnt want the permit rescinded so for that one im not sure maybe the permit holder can speak to that and answer was the work done and he needs to get it signed off in 2014. And ill available for questions on anything else. You said theyre still outstanding the permits for 9508. In 2005 because the site got excavate. Not only 2512 there was one there were 3 properties involved. Thats why they needed underpinning permits. Those are the permits that were taken out around that time. As far as 2512 their work was done thats not a problem but this is one of the permits open this site there was some underpinning protection for soil excavation that was done i assume to mitigate the problem and its cleaning up old permits and thats good but the appellant has indicated they think the work was not completed. Thats what they said. The permit holder says thats completed. We would go out to the site the appellant would schedule an inspection and we typically go to the site the building inspector shows up and a wants to say see the permit for 2005 and wants to see what that was and make sure its done. And thats what we sign off on the new renewal permits but based on the photographs that were provided shows the spraypainted rough vacationed that were shown. This whole area has been back filed im not sure i think that area is a back filed it was for 2512 for the foundation under the appellants foundation. This permit were talk about open this appeal number 8 a im not sure where on the site the plans arent here. I will tell you on those underpinning photographs sometimes something happens in between and we need to give them a permit right away but 134 that sometimes happens its a permit that needs to get taken kevin that was permit 275. Yes, its 250179 accounting oath its for soiles evaluation on 19th avenue. Its not one of the adjacent properties they must have had to do something for excavation and without the plans its hard for me to tell but it sounds like it is something that needs to be done yeah. This whole thing is not totally clear. Based on what i know about the case the appellants case has been under pinned yes. In their opinion it has i saw the permit its closed out and completed. And the underpinning was done by the permit holder or is so. I believe so they agreed to have that happen i think i read that in one of the briefs. So if it needs to be im willing to spend time to meet them again, if we need to continue it or revolve it tonight. I think the main comment is that the appellant didnt have a problem with the structure they need to figure out the depth and what this 24 inches is about. Its a pity theier we here tonight it would have been helpful for everyone. Theres a letter i saw for the first time that everything was okay okay. And we have a engineer in dbi i can offer to have that person going go in i have no problem with that either. Okay. Commissioners unless you have questions for the parties. I have a couple of questions for the parties. Mr. Leo this permits said shows 24 inches. No. If i went to the building and the drawings that they showed us showed 24 inches the drawings show 24 inches, however, the permit that said that i i looked at on the fourth floor at dbi the changes was made by image i am going by handwritten form so whats presented here tonight is not the same my youre concerned that if this drops below 24 inches it is going to sewer charging. Its not sewer charging the most critical time is during during construction. When we open up, you know, to meet their 14 plus 2 plus 5 then basically, it puts the underpinning another risk. So once you put everything he together then you do have the confinement that issue has nothing to do with a mat or spread foundation. No. Thank you. Thank you. Clear as mud pretty much. It sounds like we need to continue it to let dbi sort of so sort it out theres no way we can do it tonight. There only concern is the 24 inches and if we can continue it to clear up the set that the dbi indicates 24 inches wouldnt that be okay thats how i understand. We could take the following. We could deal with this tonight and condition it we could do that. And could condition on the following basis. Could we do t it in order. I remind we deny jurisdiction. I concur and we condition the main permit which is of concern in the following way one, if they agree and this is had an agreement to provide the permit section. Secondly, if they agreed to do 24 inches in their agreement thats a condition. Id want the department then to deal with it. Im not interested in dealing with their questions on Structural Design for a mat versus a spread thats up to the department to review. But if those two were conditions that both parties agreed to then we should do it and let the department do its work motion. Yeah. Ill entertain that motion. You want to make it. Go for it. Commissioner fung is that for 8 a and b. And 7 is a separate motion. Im saying in terms of the conditions. Im not likely to and i think theres subset i want to do that in order. Item 7. Im willing to move we deny jurisdiction. So on that motion to deny the jurisdiction president hwang commissioner hurtado sxhvdz commissioner honda. Thank you. The vote is 5 to zero and the jurisdiction is denied no appeal is available he let me see if i can craft this. Im going to move that we grant the appeal both appeals. Both appeals and uphold the permit with the following conditions one is that the Construction Permit set of drawings be provided to the appellant, and two, that the agreed upon 24 inches between the bottom of their footing and the bottom of the under pinning be maintained as per dbis review. To reflect on the drawings that it doesnt matter its a condition thats required now. Could you restate just the item two for me, the condition two. Yeah. Would you do that. Between bottom of permit holders footing. The bottom of permit holders new footing between and the bottom of the installed underpinning of appellants property. The bottom of installed underpinning of appellants property. Right. Okay. I think and is that clear mr. Duffey. Youre going to have to advantage this. Thats why we pay them the big money sorry i dont want to delay this. Theres a 24 inch plan to the bottom of the adjacent body on those plans. We heard earlier on the agreement im 99 percent sure so and so go out together. P you have two sets of plans we give you one plan i dont know the opportunity to defer lets make sure they have the same thing. They physically change it on the spot. They can change it with the department as they go through the platoon reviews. It would be on both sets of plans. Theres ancient history. You want 24 inches on the bottom of the new footing to the adjacent footing on the the underpinning. On 9 underpinning the 24 inches. Thats fine i think they added sand and gravel in there but authenticity separate. I think thats what it is maybe condition 2 has been satisfied dbi will if they do it on conditions we have to have a special conditions thats the process. You mean is 5 drawings. Yeah. Any condition that changes the plan like this side requires a special conditions permit. Now, mr. Duffey is saying 24 it would be redundant in a way but if it satisfies the appellant we can do a redundant special conditions permit lets pit this to rest can we do that. It would be okay. So the motion is from commissioner fung to uphold both permits and on conditions that the appellant be given a copy of the financial construction plans and a further condition that the agreed upon 24 inches to the bottom of the installed underpinning of appellants property. Be maintained. Yeah. 24 be maintained. On that monoxide to uphold both permits president hwang. You commissioner hurtado. Commissioner lazarus. Commissioner honda. 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