assessment. and i also welcome, i know that we have ken rich from the mayor's office of economic and workforce development. and we also did invite the planning department as well. to sit in. and i know that commissioner, or vice chair, scott weiner also has other comments before we begin the presentation. >> thank you, chair avalos. >> and also at the time that our commissioner kim requested this very important hearing on taking a step back and looking at development patterns on the water front and in the south, east part of the city and trying to match it up and making sure that we are keeping pace i requested a specific assessment of the transit inpacts and the pire.s 3032 project to make sure that we are fully understanding of the impacts of the project and to insure of the negotiations that proceeds and we are taking into account, the transit impact of the project and i know that the word project there are a lot of different views on it and, really, regardless of whether one supports or does not support the project, i think that there are a lot of and there are a lot of potential good benefits, from the project for the city. i think that we all have a strong interest in making sure ha if the project happens we get the transit out right and i don't like going out one project because there are a lot of project in this area and they all have a role to play in making sure that we are taking into account, the need for improved transit in this area. and other parts of the city. because of we know that there will be significant inflows and the out flows of the people, and in the pressed periods of time and however it is because of a basketball game or a concert and we just need to make sure that we are prepared that *. and i would like to stress my agreement with commissioner kim, we actually want to have strong transit and every part of the city, and whether it is a density populated areas or a less densely populated area, but the fact is that where the cranes are and where the development is happening whether it is in the hunter's point or pier 70 or the mission bay or the treasure island, we need to make sure that we are getting good transit. we make sure that we do this analysis and we put the money where our mouth is and that we do what is needed to keep pace. >> thank you, mr. rich in >> i am ken rich and i am standing in for jennifer as the point person and i am going to do an intro and turn it over to peter. you are about to see a presentation on what we have been calling the water front transportation assessment. and as you will hear the purposes of this effort is to shine a very bright light on the need to do, appropriate transportation planning for the major projects being proposed on the water front and not just the pier 3032 project but also at pier 7. but we are working with the neighbor and the public at large and the project sponsor and all of the agency to design the solutions. at the end of the day, we know very much that transportation is the major issue for many of these projects. and certainly for piers 3032 we will need to show you and the public how we move people in this area how much these investments will cost, and where the funds will come from, and when we will build or implement these investments. i will turn it over to peter. >> good morning, and peter from the mta. >> and the authorities and the support, and developing the assessment and when we talk about the water front assessment it became pretty quick that obvious to everybody, and that we have assessed tro pro-ject to project that we are not keeping an eye on the network and there is so much growth as commissioner wean and her kim were talking about, there is so much growth happening on the water front that the idea of the water front assessment is getting ahead of these growth projects. they go to the shipyard because the network is a network that connects these neighborhoods and challenges and looks at the capacity and the land side movement that supports it. to be the assessment which we began about a year ago, one of the first steps we took was inventory of the goals that we have, and there was a library and the county wide plan and the redevelopment agency and the plans of mta and the plans of bart and the plans of weta and golden gate and one striking characteristic of the water front is how many regional providers all converge on that site and it was helpful for the committee that was created by the board to steer the conversation for the warer to these goals and objectives that are already existing and to help them with the huge challenges, and the water front. one of the first requests that we heard in developing this assessment was tracking what is already going on. on the left-hand column are the developments that go beyond pier3032 1k3 the guy giants. and one of the developments were expected to come on line. but on the right-hand side it was important to track what we knew was coming along and the major transportation, the subway and the ex-expansion of the terminal and but a bunch of investments that mta and the other providers were doing as well and it became pretty obvious that not necessarily there was a link between the opening of a major development and the infrastructure to accommodate it and so one of the early requests in our effort was to link what is happening with what is happening. so, in doing that, we worked with the community and not just in the big workshops but also with a lot of small meetings with home owner and advocate and businesses and with the transportation providers and we got a myriad set of concerns and ideas and hopes, about the transportation. and by taking the community input which we do track and keep on-line if you go to the mta website, you will volumes of input on modes, and whether it is muni or bart or transit or bike pedestrian or taxi accessible service and pedestrian. and we realize that the way to get forward and the water front assessment was to take what we knew, and then take what we heard identify where the gaps and the opportunities were, and create strategies that should be part of every conversation for building on the water front not just when a major project comes on-line but what could happen tomorrow and what could happen in the next two or three years, these strategies are also on the website. and what they do is they reconcile the issues and opportunities and concerns from the community, which is the businesses, the residents, and the advocates and the transportation providers and what is going on with the development, and getting out ahead of it. and getting the ideas of better transportation, into the shaping of the very projects before the projects go through the environmental review and to make sure that they mesh with the priorities of the agencies involved. it could be mta, or mtc or authority and we needed to track down what we are talking about in changing the network with where the agencis that have to maintain these services needed to be. and now, we talked a little bit earlier today about the mayor's task force for 2030. there are a lot of efforts like that we are trying to keep concur ant with so that when we look at those how they reconcile with the ideas and concerns coming from the community and the water front and i hear about the tep and the transit effective project and because it only project to a certain year and how do you extend the benefits of the better transportation planning beyond the horizon year and to the next wave of development and we did the same with the livable streets and the parking strategies, and the sfpark program and other programs to try to get ahead of where the development is going to put the pressure and if the infrastructure is not there, that we will see that there will be a lack of coordination, before i turn this mic over to liz and i help that this is helpful in explaining how it is going, i wanted to use this diagram to talk about the urgency, we are looking independently because this should have been done, even if there was not a major development. they have been asking us to do better transportation planning along the water front for a long time and what we like about the conversation where it is right now, if you look at the center sphere, and the water front assessment strategy and we recognize the input and the information we are getting from the steak holders and how that feeds back to the project sponsors so that they can shape them in the beginning or through the environmental review process and it is the agreement or the impacts through the project. >> there is a huge opportunity here not just that we got the input from the community, it is not just that we vetted the strategis that the agency is responsible, it is that we made sure that when we looked at these improvements they are not just project specific and they are network wide and i am here to answer the questions and i would like to hand the mike over to liz who is talking about how she is working with us on a ro bust jump start of the analyzing of the strategy and solutions that we are talking about. >> thank you, commissioner kim. >> i was hoping, would you prefer to hold all of the questions until the end, because my questions are specific to you. >> i would be happy to do that. >> okay, great. >> you know, a couple of things that we have chatted about, and one is of course, that the need of the neighborhood today. given the long lead time, what is the immediate next step sfmta can call it in the near term as we are having a long term discussion about the water front? >> thank you to the chair and a good example is going to be the 22 motor approach and one of the challenge ss getting the fillmore bus that is supposed to go between the mission district and the third street and the problem is that it needed wires and needed to cross the train tracks and a lot of challenge and out of this assessment and the tep that we could run a hybrid motor coach tomorrow, and we are proposing to run it in conjunction with the opening of the hospital in 2015, well ahead of the warrior's development that will benefit from it but it is an example of something that showed, that we should not let the limitation of the technology keep us from running it sooner, there are street improvements that we heard from the people in the bridge building and the bay side village about the challenges of getting out of the garages because there is one southbound lane and so we are looking at striping one lane. and that is a spectrum of the improvement with the 22 and the block, specific improvement that only came out of the conversation with the assessment if you would like commissioner i could talk about the others that came out. >> although, all that are in the bike project, and we are now one of the top five or six project receiving priority development area grants, to look at a separate bike facility along the embarcadero and it was tested in a glumcy fashion because we don't have the ability to break down the curves and create a specific treatment during the america's cup but the idea of separating the bikes is a safety priority as well as a facility and that is funded and moving forward this year, and what we can do not just to build a separate facility but to make sure that any future development along there acknowledges that and preserves. >> i don't often go home during rush hour, but when i get to folsom street i am stunned by the number of cars and i have heard are choking our neighborhoods and i know that last friday night was particularly rough because bater did not run in the morning, and took approximately, 30 minutes for people to go through the south of market. and even if they were not leaving, the city. and so i am curious as to how your study is also focused on kind of the car congestion that we are experiencing currently in our neighborhoods with the freeway. >> thank you. >> if you look at the water front assessment strategies you will see that we have tried to break it down by modes and include vehicle circulation and we have a category like a comment and making the ramp traffic more efficient and working with the authorities that have the ideas of their own to look at how we can meter ramp the traffic and be more strategic and because one of the challenges is that the approaches are generated as a congestion themself and i think that liz can talk about how that might roll out as part of the analysis of the solutions in their city. >> and i would to make the comments on the congestion issue later. but what i would ask to suggest is that there will be a way with sfpd on the actual enforcement around blocking the box. and cameras, if there is a camera you might not do it and maybe get home two minutes earlier and you are going to do that not, not just how slow the cars move is that you cannot move at all when the cars are blocking the intersection and so you sit through three green lights before one car moves and hopefully there is an examination on the enforcement end. first of all a set of concerns about how much more extensive the tasking concerns and the people especially in south beach wish were set up as part of the giant's events and the warrior's subcommittees, staff and is also a quality of life and so we are looking at the special events team and how that can be more coordinated not just through the project property, of an event site, but the connection between that property and where the people are driving and where the people are walking so that there is this continuous work of parking management and safety as a priority for the preevent and post event circulation. >> okay. >> thank you. >> commissioner breed? >> i just wanted to add a question, or i guess, ask a question about some of the comments that you make. i know that we are talking about over all, you know, plan long term, and for this particular area, and one of the biggest challenges that we have, is that this, what i think is kind of missing from the conversation, is where are we going to get the money to pay for the additional people necessary in order to drive the buses in order to deal with the traffic and some order to, i mean that we are in a situation even now, when those things happen and the giant's games, take in from the park station, to the giant's area because there are not enough officers, who can assist with those particular gains in addition to a lot of the parking and patrol officers and of course, we all know that a lot of well, the money to pay, for personnel, comes from the city's general fund and i know that we expect the additional tax revenue as a result of the development and so on and so forth but there is a larger picture here and we are talking about the infrainstruct infrastructure and we are not talking about people and we don't have specific clarity or i guess a strategic plan around with the needs are over all for the fire department. the new fire department and what that means in terms of traffic and managing it and people and so on and so forth. and so i guess, this is not just with this particular it seems to be consistent with a lot of discussions that we have around transportation and in terms of where the bodies are going to come from and how it is going to be paid for and are we incorporating that into some of the things that we are looking at as it relate to transportation? in this particular area, i want to know, what you have done and what your thoughts are around that and how to move forward and incorporate it into some of the things that you seem to suggest in your plans. >> what we hear again about this area, is how difficult it is to try to do a one size fits all plan. and there are members one day and not there the next and how with the funding of pcos and people know when there are no giant's game, and so the ability to sustain the base level of service and float that extra event level is a financial concern, it requires having drivers that are assigned for these calendar events. and the ability to coordinate when there is demand, what we do through the transportation, tdm is a big part of what we talk about is set up agreements with these sponsors america's cup taught us a lot of lessons. what we did have is a combination of people on call knowing when they are supposed to be running buses and which need to be up and running, and if it not well maintained it will not do well. to know when it will be completed and the vacation schedules and so then the cost of that extra service and because that is expensive. and so you will hear from liz, about the financial strategies. you are correct in knowing that there are revenue and there are requirements of the project sponsors themself and through the transportation and demand and management programs that look at sustaining the extra resource and the management and the buses and the street cars and those development agreements and you will see that in some of the water front assessment categories of strategies, we want to analyze even before the eir. >> and i guess that my bigger certain is the fact that it is not that i don't want these events to happen, i think that they are great for san francisco. i just deal with the back lash in my district where the resources are taken away and so when we talk about, for example, there is the eir that will have to be done for the warrior's stadium, i want to understand the impacts as it relates to just the area, but also, how we are going to impact the rest of the city and our resources because we are not doing it what i believe the right way now, so what is going to convince me that we have a different strategy to do it the right way in the future? so that the neighborhoods are not significantly impacted as in some cases they have been as a result of some of these events. and so i just wanted to make sure that i put that on your radar. >> if this is the beginning of many conversations like that, the very first is a big eir and we talk with the studio wall 330, and the giant mission ro ject and we know that there is a lot of going on with pier 70 and we are working on now to come up with something this spring and i welcome the chance to come back and talk about what we learned and the tratgies are and what can we do with america's cup and what are we doing now with the giants that will enhance, and especially working with the neighbors, because no one feels the impacts more not just the people who live there but the people in the cal train, because all of the street cars are cued up and therefore they have missed a train. and so i will be happy to continue this conversation and we are kicking off the planning studies and i want to make sure that i do not hold up liz and she will answer the questions as well. just a remainder, that we are under the time constraints because we will be coming up against our board meeting as well f we can keep our questions and comments brief but ask them, that would be great. commissioner mar? >> let me thank him to asking it in a very direct way and i did want to say that the chronicle did a great article looking at the america's cup plan that mr. albert spent significant amounts of analysis and work on and that the water front that you are presenting to us and the key points that he made that i would like some answers to our how many money that you or the city has to eat when there is 49ers games and giant's games and how that is recouped by the city and as you said it is not just the switch back, and in commissioner's tang's district but, it is also physical therapy loss of the number of buses in the richmond district and the out lying areas and the warriors, hotel and condo development and how that is going to impact the transit, in addition to the existing giants, and the mission rock and current transit needs. and i know that the spokesperson for the warriors is quoted in the article, and saying that they are willing to pay their fair share and i am just wondering if you are starting to come to more of a financial understanding of what that fair share would be for a number of the entities and it sure seems that the transit impact fees are not enough to cover the huge impacts on commissioner kim's district right now. >> so, thank you, chair. we are not at the point of analysis yet, because mostly, of the analysis is made of the projects is started and that will come out of what is out of the first draft eir and what we have done is lined up the strategies and to inform the analysis and so with that will come the model results that show how much trip generation comes out of each and how much that trip is the responsibility of this projector one down the street or father down the water front and then, i think that what liz can outline is the fair share strategy. we work on the fiscal assessment at the end of the project, and before it is certificated the mta board want to see what the financial challenges of operating the system needed to sustain the development would be. labor, fuel, and service planning and all of that. it is premature. >> and i wanted to ask the brief questions and i apologize if you covered this already, in terms of doing that analysis, are you doing it only in the context of this projector other projects that are proposed in the area. >> the benefit is to look at both of the benefit and how it is part of the network of projects that is why we threw the boundary and that is when liz explains how she is doing the fish allocation and she will tie that relationship together. >> we will transition to item 12 and we are seeking approval for the scope of work and specifically for the transportation authority's role supporting the sfmta led projects in the next phase. phase two page 127 of the packet and will hopefully address the points that have surfaced. as it kicked off that the transportation authority would have a significant role in supporting it especially if we got into the technical analysis of the strategies which is the phase that we are now upon and when that effort kicked off last year, the approach was that as we got close to phase two, we would get down into the details of how to scope that work. meanwhile, there is a lot of commissioner interest from several of you and we have heard that outlined in commissioner kim's opening programs and commissioner or vice chair weiner's remarks and there is a three-pronged context of reasons we are pursuing this work. so based on that, we have developed the scope that you see on page 130 of your packet. this kas developed with the agency and as well as the requesting commissioners and this time line, is useful and just showing a process, and you just heard from peter albert about the phase one of the work that has been under way and was really focused on identifying a list of potential strategies, that might be available to address the transportation impacts created by the developments. ask as that phase is coming to conclusion, we have been scoping the next phase that comes into more detail. >> and so the scope will be that the transportation authority will be the water front assessment. and a note about the timing, this is off of the environmental impact report for the arena and we were waiting for the most recent design, 3.0 that gives us more clarity on what the proposed project is and so that we can

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