under the building code, a three-story building. that is the most likely scenario. the permit holder's submittal was in 2010, and they do show s. that is not the project. that is a much, much wider driveway with two garage door entrances,6lf!v77óçi where we h. they have a 20-foot curb cut, so that is not the project. i do not know if that is version two or three. commissioner fung: it does not matter. there are two questions. ûñthe volumetric -- was equivalt to what was provided to the homeowners? >> yes. commissioner fung: is the floor plan the same? >> yes. ñiçy/ fung:and the space? >> yes. commissioner garcia: is the first floor have a boat -- have a boat --d] is the first floor habitable? >> the building department can discuss that because that is a technical issue about when you determine a story. 18 or 12? -- are we add 18 or 12? -- at 18 or 12? excavation? >> no, it is my understanding could submit an excavation permit. i would defer to the building department. addendum or not, appealable to the board of appeals. ]tçcommissioner fung: :jqe[tódoe sed elevations for the different floors? >> what was included in my pack it does not show -- included in my pocket -- packet. i do not see it in the paper work. regarding the possible excavation, juin one of these pages that was associated with the package, i am seeing iand i emcea point, which was no. 1 in the package, and it shows a site plan. the front right corner of the curb, and that is 00, so everything is related to it 00 -- to 00 elevations. this would be about 19 or 20 inches above the reference point curb,e2mñ and thero references for the rear yard. it seems to be an up sloping lot. the only thing i can assume -- it seems to be an up-sloping lot. the steps to the left-hand side of the property, it shows8dsá-juj5ei0 which would typically be#q about 7.5 inches, so it seems weg climbing above 5 feet to get the rear yard, so that would suggest that is that much excavation. commissioner fung: at a minimum. the problem is that we do not know how it sits on the site. thank you. president peterson: commissioners, the matter is submitted. if l bring you up. commissioner fung: commq&ujjá$5e against a permit that has been çissued. at least in the basic design, it appears that the permit that the building reflects matches up with that which was approved by the homeowners association. the crucial question remains then, how this building sits on the side relative -- sits on the site. either it conforms to some of the general standards of the homeowners' association guidelines, or it does not. there is no survey, and there is no reflection between the permit documents that establishes the elevation of the different floor levels in relation to the site around it. whatever they choose to do for further modifications to the design is up to them. ithe homeowners association neighbors have the right to enforce the appeal. we hope that does not occur, but it has been known to. if the basic design matches up with the homeowners' association approval, then i would probably support the rejection of the appeal, but i would suggest that we get more documentation from the permit holder which establishes the elevation of the building in relationship to the site. commissioner garcia: provided to whom? >> -- commissioner fung: to the commission into the homeowners' association. vice president goh: i do not see the data. the one that came in the packet -- i do not see the date. i am looking at that in comparison to the first floor drawing. this might be what you are seeing. i am not sure. the garage, and then to the left of the garage is the laundry area and the stairs, but the 04 08 shows the game room to the left of that. i think the question was that would require excavation depending upon where that fellow. commissioner fung: it goes to more than that. when i said there were no documents provided for us to review, we had no idea what this reflects. it is incomplete. there is no way to get a fix on exactly what is being done. vice president goh: so then i do have a question for the homeowners' representative. cars does not have the stamp. -- ours does not have the stamp. so it shows the garage, but to the left of that, it shows a game room. is that new? or was that part of -- >> it has not really changed from one place to another. what changed was the grade. it was so you could get windows on the ground floor. the floor plate has not changed. vice president goh: the fact that there is habitable space on the first floor is not new. >> there was for their before, but it was without windows. vice president goh: oh, i see. >> but by digging that out, all of a sudden, you have livable space, because in of windows. we have a retaining wall of up to 3 feet. windows on the rear. i think i have found that one of the mysteries of the drawings by the two engineers. which concerns me, because there was a discussion with the hoa and the project sponsor regarding the garage door. we allowed a 12-foot garage door because the basement was very deep and allowed two cars to go in it next to each other. that is why we allowed a 12-foot garage. she originally came with an 18- foot garage. we settled on 18 feet. my concern is that there will be a series of addendums. commissioner fung: what does it show? >> i do not know. commissioner fung: that is what the permit says. >> and i have two sets of drawings. vice president goh: so i of a question for mr. sanchez. speaking of "the" permit set, which i do not know, are their windows in that game room? -- are there? >> no. vice president goh: ok. thank you. commissioner fung: i am not prepared to act on this, but one last time, to get planning and building to discuss this with the permit holder, and what i want to see is something that establishes the grade of the natural site, and i want to see how this building and its permanent -- permit, how it's it's -- how it sits. is that clear? and be approved plans are set. sir, you do not have the opportunity to speak any time you want to -- the approved plans are set. thank you. we will give the permit holder one last opportunity to provide that information, and i want to see not only the survey and the finished elevation documentation, but i want to see the permit set, the reduced set given to this department and this commission for our records. is that clear? =)eat#u8/jákkiic3ññrok. thank you. no, sir. no, sir. thank you. ÷president peterson: commissior fung? mr. linn, could you please sit commissioner fung the permit holder? ñiñok, we will ask it from mr. sanchez or mr. reardon, a reduced set. commissioner garcia: would you remind me when this comes back before us if this can be expanded, windows can now be in the back, or whether or not there fate is sealed? >> thank you. scott sanchez, planning department. there are architectural changes that can be made during the addendum process. however, they must be submitted to the planning department. the planning department k-