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from mosque out of the world. this is our t international. i'm rachel blevins here with the top stories of the hour. welcome to the program or poland has decided not to invoke a provision of nato's charter for an inquiry into the missile incident. the un security council convened to discuss the situation. according to russia, un ambassador, the missile incident was a deliberate provocation by ukrainian poland to bring nato into the conflict. jesse booth, he was this meeting had not been scheduled. we would have had to convenient anyway to discuss the attempts by ukraine and poland to provoke a direct clash between russia and nato. it was not just an intentional attempt as this information, but a conscious attempt to bring nato, which is currently conducting a proxy war, into a direct conflict with our country. at the meeting, we heard russia present evidence regarding the deadly incident in poland. and russia came forward and pointed out that these allegations that were leveled at russia and the aftermath of the incident, diesel allegations led to a very dangerous escalation. it appeared. this was an attempt to draw nato countries into the conflict in ukraine, which is quite serious, and russia presented evidence. we did hear from different countries that spoke. they continued to criticize russia, but they did not focus on the incident. they didn't repeat some of the heavy allegations that were escalating things within the previous the previous day, previous 24 hours. it seems like they are moving away from trying to blame russia for the deadly incident. but it was pretty clear that western leaders did very much want to keep the focus on demonizing, russia. we've heard from the nato chief stoughton burger from the german chancellor . they do admit that this missile, it appears to have been of ukrainian origin. and that the deadly incident that took place was not the direct responsibility of russia. however, they continue to argue in kind of a convoluted way, because the conflict itself is one that they blame on russia, that the incident is, therefore, russia's fault. here's some of what we've heard to have no indication that this was the result of a deliberate attack. and you have no indication that the russia is preparing offensive military actions against natal. the incident was likely caused by a ukrainian air defense me sign, fired to the fens, ukrainian territory against russian cruise missile attacks. but let me be claire. this is not ukraine's fault. rashaw bears ultimate responsibility. ah, suit continuous. it's illegal war against ukraine. guns claw is one thing is clear, no matter whose rocket it was, and for whatever reason it fell in poland. this would not have happened if russia had not started a war against ukraine. wow, this is slightly different than what we've heard from zalinski and the ukraine government, despite all of the weapons and support that's been given to kia, it appears that they trust their own generals more than they trust the western countries and their own investigations are the words that we're hearing from ukraine officials seem to indicate that they still blame russia were the deadly incident. here's what we've heard this from you live. i have no doubt about the reports from the commander of the air force and commander in chief zone lose knew that it was not a missile and not a missile strike. yet i have no reason not to trust them because i've been through this whole war with them. well, this is quite interesting. they see zalinski basically saying that the dutch prime minister and the white house, the pentagon, the nato chief, the german chancellor. all of them are not correct, he seems to be insisting that somehow this is russia's fall, this is russia's doing. and it reminds us of what was said before. the un security council by ambassador benzine. when he spoke for the council, you said this was some kind of provocation and candid to draw nato directly into the conflict and watching the ukrainian leaders stick to it. despite the fact that western leaders who have been quite quite generous in giving quite a bit of weapons and support to the key of the government. the fact that now we have the government here insisting that no. busy they are wrong that this could not have been an air defense message from, from ukrainian forces. the fact that we're hearing that seems to indicate there may be a sign of the key of government kind of thumbing. it's no at the nato countries that have given them so much military support. over the last few months, journalists and political analysts, john verbally says that the west is likely to turn a blind eye to ukraine's involvement in the missile incident created the native protector. of course, they have called blinds to do whatever they want. any outrage provocation is acceptable for nato. any ukrainian provocation. this is a war of nerves. it's a, it's a propaganda war of the site. sy, up, the idea is to, under russia under moscow as you know, ukraine, the de facto protectorate of nato, of the usa. so they can, of course, do whatever they want and it will be forgiven. it will be, it'll be ignored. ringback for example, incident like this. ok, so they, so ukraine kill $24.00 will be no big deal. but of russia did it. we're going to both article 5. let's start world war 3. you're dealing with extremely on hand, irresponsible people in washington in london, and then brought them with ukraine. anything is possible because they are trying to drag, you may go into the conflict into their conference. right. when russia they are trying to do that. so i think it's quite probable. also, there was an accident. they were trying to shoot down a russian missile. but chances are this was a deliberate effort to provoke nato to and go article 5 into tack russia possible. and other developments the u. s. secretary of homeland security says that americans shouldn't worry about a possible nuclear escalation, and ukraine as any potential fall out would not affect the us. although the united states has expressed concern about the russian nuclear unrest, we do not anticipate that a nuclear detonation in europe would have direct health consequences in the country . meanwhile, donald trump, whose announce he will run for president again in 2024. has accused the global community of overlooking a growing nuclear threat degree new deals. and the environment which they say may affect us in 300 years is all that is talked about. and yet, nuclear weapons, which would destroy the world immediately are never even discussed as a major threat. can you imagine? they say the ocean will rise 18th of an inch over the next 200 to 300 years. but don't worry about nuclear weapons that can take out entire countries with one shot. belgrade bass, professor stephen diet says in an atmosphere of global paranoia over the situation . ukraine is creating a real nuclear threat. it seems to me that we live now in an era where a nuclear threat is imminent and people get used to it. i really think this is more dangerous, not necessarily because somebody wants to to go ballistic literally. but because, because it creates an atmosphere in which a paranoia is so high that certain events can be misreads by the other side. and then for things can go out of course, just because of a series of mistakes. and i think that we are in a really grave, an association of possible aah, global nuclear conflict. the global warming is important, of course, the levels of the ocean all that. but this all comes off or we are done with the imminent threat. ah, a u. s. new nazi mercenary who fought in the eyes of battalion says that the western media are white washing the infamous nationalist unit. in fact, according to him, radical nationalists are still a powerful political force in the country. there is a ton of liberal white washing when it comes to fascists. in ukraine. nazis don't exist. the resolved battalion is of regiment are different. they took all the nazi's out of his off. we know all these to be false and to a guy who knew and has been there. i see it as pure disrespect to tarnish the legacy of a lot of those who died during the battle of mary. you, paul, we were in talks with the cia and the pentagon. it's true. the pentagon conducted intelligence operations during the war there near nancy battalion, such as as off, were established in ukraine after a us back to coo and 2014 members. of these radical military groups were blamed and even convicted for numerous crimes against civilians. the most notorious of these groups was called tornado tornado fighters were torturing raping and killing civilians, subsequently being convicted by ukrainian courts. however, earlier this year, zalinski government released tornadoes, leader, and several of its members. so let's go further in depth on this. i'm joined now by investigative journalist alex rubinstein. alex, it's great to have you on the program to day. now this interview comes after italian police arrested members of an ass, og tied nat, nazi cell, who were planning attacks in the country. now, do you consider that this is something that european should be worried about? well, of course, it even interposed chief has worn that there'll be a black market of foreign aid. so called foreign aid weapons that have been sent by nato countries and a particular united states, great brit and, and so on, of flooding europe, european black markets that and, and which are basically untraceable on i've reported previously that the department of homeland security. i has little grasp in their own internal documents. they've admitted this little grasp on the number of white nationalists going over there. no mechanisms and in place to prevent them from using their training on the battlefield and bringing it to the streets of the united states. so this, this arrest these arrests in italy of the so called order of ha gall ard. just, i'm afraid going to be the tip of the iceberg. but i think it's worth noting that members of this group, one who was arrested in italy, was planning to attack a police station. another one 0, has evaded arrest. he's actually with the as of battalion right now. and he was planning on attacking a shopping mall, a civilian target in italy. so. so this is the kind of mean because because naziism has been able to find a safe space and, and really a renaissance in ukraine since 2014 i just as we're sending in weapons, you know, people, the people who use them are going to be coming back out. right, and i know the united states, even though congress has kind of gone back and forth on what they want to say that they find when it comes to those neo nazi groups and ukraine. the u. s. doesn't seem very worried about it, because quite frankly, it's not happening close to their border in their country. but when it comes to europe, do you think that most europeans are actually aware of what's going on in ukraine right now? and would they be surprised to find out that these are radical groups are preparing terror attacks and that they could be directly affected by? well, certainly the italians are now aware yesterday this, the story that i reported on was the biggest story in italy. i can't say for sure about other countries. unfortunately, it might be too little too late. but you do see these protests happen against the support of their governments throughout europe took towards the proxy war and ukraine. i hope that it, it doesn't take an even bigger wake up call for people to actually get a sense of what their governments are supporting and, and thank goodness for the police work that was done in this case in preventing these terror attacks from happening right now. speaking of that wake up call, i mean, you mentioned how there has been this increase not only and neo nazi ideology and ukraine, but also in the weapons that have been flowing freely into ukraine. what are some of the long term impacts of the u. s. foreign policy and also the foreign policy from countries in europe that we're seeing happening right now. and how do you see that continuing to play out in the years to come? well, it's a, it's a money whole for the public, but it's a money money laundering scheme for, for the political leaders. i mean, you, you look at some of the weapons that were used by the taliban in afghanistan against the united states. they were old soviet weapons. so i mean, that was, that was there was a, quite a large gap there between these conflicts. so, you know, i, and this is a good, you know, it's important to note, this is why israel has said that they won't send weapons to ukraine because weapons don't just disappear. you know, they don't get locked in a basement somewhere. never to be seen again. they, they remain, or they can be refurbished, they can, you know, and, and, you know, re purpose. so it's, it's not going to go away. it could be a problem that plagues europe for, for the next 50 years. now i also want to bring out the comments we mention from that us mercenary. we mentioned earlier, who said that the as of italian currently has a lot of new nazi members. and that they were supported by the pentagon and the cia and their operations. do you think that they're being used as a weapon against russia, especially with their growing threat that is being placed towards europe right now? yeah, absolutely. they're being used as a weapon against russia. i mean it's, it's for the same reason that you know, the cia and the pentagon supported jihadist rebels and syria is because these people who are quite frankly, mentally ill, are willing to die on the battlefield. the most committed soldiers are going to be the most ideological ones. so, and i want to point out, it's not just as a battalion, these arrests in italy, that group was also in contact with the right sector, which was a leading force. and the my don qu, and continues to operate on the battlefield. president zalinski himself is honored, a commander of the right sector, who has sworn that he, that he feeds russian children to wolves. um and century, another neo nazi ukrainian military formation. there's, there's a whole, a collection of these ha, nazi groups in ukraine that are on the front lines and have been quite frankly, since 2014 um and i fear that you know, the hyper focused on just the as of battalion obscures how are prevailing this issue actually is as certainly a lot of speaker, especially as that threat continues to grow investigative journalist alex rubenstein. thank you so much for your time and insight. thank you. rachel. ah, international grain shipments an escalating global hunger were among the main topics at the g. 20 summit, which has wrapped up in bali rushes foreign minister. i agree that moscow is interested in extending the grain deal, allowing russian and ukrainian wheat and fertilizers to be exported through the block. see. but only if supplies go to the countries that need them. the most on the side lines of the summit, we spoke to the russian minister of finance about the grain and energy crises. he said that russia's activity at the summit proves that the west has failed to isolate moscow. this is no symptom. yes, indeed. many issues were discussed at the summit that directly relate to the russian federation, such as the energy crisis, grain, health issues. we also actively participated in discussions and digitalization. you're asking about continuing the grain bill to that many g 20 countries proposed to continue the deal because we all see the situation with hunger and the number of african countries. and so the flow of grain food to these countries was a major topic of discussion. the russian delegation drew attention to the grain deal, and the source of communication with colleagues says a love, rob, speaking of the summit of leaders, said that russia is for the continuation of the deal, only for grain that is supplied under the black sea agreements to go precisely to countries which urgently need grain but not to western countries and countries with the european economy as is happening now. therefore, we spoke in favor of continuing the deal under the control of grain dispatch points . so grain would go to countries that really need it. we also talked about the need to control the volume of energy supplies and prices about the various restrictions that western countries impose. and that these restrictions hit them since they lead to price increases and such increases into the growth of the economy. and the well being of people living in these countries. therefore, we are in favor of removing all barriers to the export of energy resources, removing all barriers that prevent us from exporting our and he results at the other countries. and to day, there are many barriers. this homes, the world economy, and the g 20 itself was always considered. the issue was a world economy and its dynamics. all of this was stressed by the russian delegation and i think that the western countries heard this on behalf of our entire delegation. i can say we do not feel any isolation here. yes. in the speeches of an individual western countries joining the events of the g 20. there was a certain town in terms of restrictions and call to rush at the end. it's special operation, etc. but no issue was discussed without russia on key issues. since our country is a cigna, can part of the world economy and not a single issue can be resolved without us. as the director, christopher ray has warned us while makers on tuesday that allowing tick tock to continue operating the united states could pose a threat to national security. we do have national security concerns, obviously from the f b i z n about tick tock. the chinese government could use it to control data collection on millions of users or control the recommendation algorithm which could be used for influence operations if they so choose or to control software on millions of devices. however, the f b, i doesn't appear to see similar threads from the us platform. facebook, which has had its own share of scandals caused by massive leaks of users personal data back in 2018, a former employee of facebook. the british consulting firm cambridge analytic revealed that the personal data of nearly $90000000.00 users was collected without their consent. the following year facebook with find $5000000000.00 by the federal trade commission due to its privacy violations. but the social media giant continued operating with founder mark zuckerberg saying that meta takes cooperation with the f b. i seriously book if, if the f b i, which i still view is a legitimate institution in this country. it's a very professional lawn force and they come to us and tell us that we need to be on guard about something that i want to take that seriously. for more on this was bring in legal and media analyst, lionel. alright, well i know, i know that you're going to have a thing or 2 to say about this, but i could be alleged danger posed by check talks be used by the f b i and other agents used to simply increase control over the wider social media landscape and really the internet domestically. yes. in that now did this, this kills me. but rachel ticked on, came along in around 2016. and immediately, without anybody even thinking twice, we were told specifically wait a minute. this device, this platform not only can, can draw information and data and can get into your operating systems and, and become entangled and ensnared in a quasi virus like contamination. and it does nothing. we haven't even gone to what it does to childrens brains. and now all of a sudden, i swear to you, i'm trying that, rachel, i swear to i'm trying not to be cynical. was this a joke to somebody say? and you know, i think that there might be data breaches. and the information may be use adversely. is this the joke? yes. yes. you know, this is of out of all of the devices. keep my radio that in china is slick. kids are limited to like you know for 90 minutes. no, no, no, no, no. what am i saying, like 40 minutes a day apps with with specific controls as to how much is covered? i mean, this is that that's the, the, the sociological and in psychological implications of this. but in the seventy's, it was a statement that was made regarding regular, plain old, boring media and it says, you're not that consumer. you're the product. and rachael, we've been knowing about this since day one. but here's another consideration that nobody's talking about. one about the fact that i cannot say certain things on these platforms that happened to be in my humble opinion, a utility like the phone company, like a mobile carrier. that if i say something contrary to some set of standards, i get my voice and my speech quashed in addition to the foregoing. and not only that, if, if law enforcement come to, excuse me, we want to alert you to some disinformation. this word has all of a sudden taken on this, this aft as meaning. somebody dis information. so what i'm the consumer, i'll figure this out. now remember rachel? mark my word 3 days from now. we forget about the whole thing. we have, we have the attention span of a gnat not just in this country, but around the world. we're going to talk about this return, and that's going to be it, and we're going to be moving on to the top. no hit no runs, no errors. absolutely, and it seems like that's what those big tech giant count on, right. they count on this short attention span that you're just going to forget about all of those privacy scandals that they had. and you're not going to worry about what they're doing with your data when they leaked it to a firm somewhere. and who knows what about what? but that's, i guess another conversation entirely. but i guess my question is, why do you think that the f b i is coming out and warning about this now? and what is so big and bad, about tick tock that sets it apart from facebook and twitter and all of the other companies that we have here. well, i could be nefarious and conspiratorial and dark in tin foil hattie and sometimes, you know, there was an expression. what was it from casa blanca? round up, the usual suspects? maybe one in the more cynical like you say, this will be made to appear as though you're doing something. well, let's look at what's going on here as well. when you take data, rachel, we're not talking about your credit card information. we're talking about meta data, but data as far as every conceivable aspect of you from biometrics to where you go, what, what you see for how long this put into the pool will one day feed into a bigger trough, a bigger vac, where artificial intelligence will come in that doesn't necessarily find out your likes and dislikes, but can recreate you. do you have any debt idea of what information is absorbed and by the way, one more thing. you mentioned a very good question. why tick tock? all of a sudden you know, a while back when people started to say, hey, do you think there's any connection between cov id or sorry, cov, into, and china, and whoo hon. what did they say? ah, your racist you say no phobic 8 longer. well, why can't i 9 say, excuse me, why are you picking on china? well, that's, we're tick. tock is from for that's were cobra's story. ah, so wait a minute. you can have it both ways. when you identified the location, the site, the genesis of something, in some respects it raises. in other respects, it isn't. i'm telling you though, the but the bigger picture listened to this. so this is what was the more for any of these devices, are now proxies for government. so when a government wants to come in any government and shut you up, it doesn't deal with directly. it goes to the most popular means of dissemination of information. it tells vo uh people as agents and proxies shut rachel up, we didn't do it. somebody else did it. agency perhaps whatever you want to call it . so it seems like no, no, no we're, we're a private organization, a private corporation. merely trying our best to not spread this information and where government start in private industry begin. i can't tell you any more because they have become so in mesh and so connected that i can tell one from the other. and like i told you, imagine you were on your phone one day when all of a sudden your, your cellular phone carrier drops. because of the subject matter. you wouldn't take that from anybody. so why should you take it from a social media carrier? ah, that's different. how is that different and trust this? it just is excellent questions or is there, i know this is a topic that we can talk about all day long. well, unfortunately we're going to have to leave it right there. legal and media analyst, lionel, as always, thank you so much for your time and insight. thank you so much. ah, the african union, which includes $55.00 countries, should become a permanent member of the g 20. that's according to the south african president who says that the global food and energy crises can only be salt with the continents halt. we call for continued g 20 support for the african renewable energy initiative as a means of bringing clean power to the continent on african terms. in this regard, this can be best achieved with the african union joining the g 20. as a permanent member, it is only through a collective and united response that we can resolve the challenges of food and energy and security across our world. africa issues have been one of the main topics that this year's g 20 summit as the continent faces increasing hunger. china's president has also bank the idea of inviting more african countries to join the international group off the world's total. my shyness supports the african unions, accession to the g. 20. the concerns of developing countries must be taken into account professor anthony ban. newark. it says that it's crucial for african countries to play a bigger role in organizations like the g 20. the g. 20 is not the only international instrument that africans can use to promote and enhance their own prospects in the global economy and in global governance. by the way, there are other forums and aligns just for example bricks which might be even more important. i think for africa then the g, 20, many of the problems in africa relating to piece security conflict, instability, resort exploitation are caused by colonial, any period behavior by exploitation, by external actors. and so many of the problems that africa faces are not caused by africa itself. although we can't escape some blame of course, but nevertheless, some of the big issues. for example, you know, when the boil and gas when actually sources are discovered, then the former colonial mosque, these are quick to, to, to jump into africa with promises of development, aid and support. and a seat at the table are important to see.

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