Oh, the days are flying by and taking forever. Unless this race goes into extra innings, were just five news cycles away now from electing the next president of these united states. It was a busy day out on the campaign trail. Hillary clinton and donald trump both their running mates and plenty of super surrogates were barn storming across the battleground states from sea to shining sea, making a final pitch to the voters. What a wonderful welcome here in pennsylvania. Florida, we have five more days in five days, we are going to win the great state of florida. Love for this country is something we immediately shared when i met donald. He loves this country and he knows how to get things done. Not just talk. He certainly knows how to shake things up, doesnt he . This is a guy who spent 70 years, his whole life, born with a silver spoon, showing no respect for working people. Why isnt he back in the office . Sometimes referred to as the oval office. Why isnt he back in the white house bringing our jobs back . And helping our veterans . You even have a republican senator saying you cannot afford to give the Nuclear Codes to somebody so erratic. And as hillary points out, anybody that you can bait with a tweet is not someone you can trust with nuclear weapons. Someone who always puts himself first and doesnt care who gets hurt along the way. A president with a very thin skin, who lashes out at anyone who challenges him. Who praises adversaries like Vladimir Putin and picks fights with our allies and even attacked the pope. Thank you very much, everybody. God bless you. God bless you. Get out and vote amidst all the swirl, theres really only one thing anybody cares about right now. Does Hillary Clinton have an impregnable lead or does donald trump have a real path to the white house . There were fewer credible polls out today, giving us a snapshot to the answers of those questions but a handful of surveys in fact look pretty positive for the republican nominee. First the national survey, cbs and the New York Times has clinton up by three, 3744. That same poll showed clinton with a ninepoint lead a few weeks ago. There were actually a bunch of state polls that likely have trump world smiling. A New Hampshire survey from the boston globe and Suffolk University showed clinton and trump tied. The Granite State is a place that up until recently, people thought clinton had pulled ahead, well ahead. The two candidates also were tied in a new colorado poll, from the university of denver. Thats another place where clinton was presumed to have the electoral votes locked down. A new nbc news wall street journal marist poll has trump with a Comfortable Lead in arizona and texas, if those surveys are to be believed. So much for clinton making inroads there. And finally, trump is up six in a Monmouth University poll in utah, where evan mcmullin, the independent candidate, who in some surveys was in first place, has now fallen back to third. So in a sec, weal talk about the polls that were good for Hillary Clinton. But what do you see in these surveys that is good for donald trump . Look, the main thing is youre starting to get a incontininkon incontrovertible sense that the race has tightened in the last days before election day. If that colorado poll were true, it would be the best news in that group. Because that would suggest that a state as you said, mark, that Hillary Clinton has relied on, as being in the bag, basically, is now not only competitive, but trump is ahead. If you look into that poll a little more closely, youll see its only showing 9 of the electorate being hispanic, which would not be at all the number was like. I think it was 14 in 2012. So that poll may be underrepresenting in a key demographic in that state. But if thats true or even close to true, it says something important about whats going on in this race. To me the big question is, trump clearly has shown movement over the last two weeks. The question is, is he still moving or has he topped out . Has the Clinton Campaign fought back or is trump hitting his natural ceiling . Because we know hes got some natural ceiling thats lower than 50 , to be sure. I believe this data suggests he may still well be moving. And he may be moving in a number of places, in a positive direction in those red states where clinton was thinking about challenging and in a positive way in those blue states, hes still not there. But these polls suggest its now, i think, the third day in a row where the data suggests that Trump Movement up. And clinton still, in most of these places, well below 50, the Trump Campaign got to hope, as they have all along, that a lot of the undecided voters break his way, because shes the quasiincumbent. Right. One of the biggest questions still outstanding, and i raised this question yesterday, is what the relationship is between whats going on this week and what has already happened in the early vote. And we have mixed evidence on the early vote in some places. People on the democratic side are very confident. Places like nevada, for instance, where trump in some polling is said to be ahead. But democrats are confident they have a huge lead in the early vote. Theres the election thats going to happen on tuesday, the election thats been happening over the course of the last month. How the interplay between those two will matter a lot in terms of what the outcome is. Okay, so Hillary Clinton, by contrast, had a few positive poll numbers that came out yesterday. She had a better day, i would say, probably, in the polling than donald trump did. But today, there were just two polls that we can cite where clinton would be smiling. A nbc news wall street journal marist poll of red state georgia has clinton trailing trump by just one point, 4746 . That, of course, would be a huge deal if Hillary Clinton were to win the peach state, as deep red, as it is. And theres a florida poll by a local fox affiliate there, that has the democratic nominee up by four Percentage Points in the sunshine state. That is, again, if true, a big deal. Florida, of course, donald trump cant win the presidency without florida. So mark, although we are only citing two polls here as good news for hillary clton, do those polls, do you think, are they significant enough that they might offset the good news on the trump side, in terms of the clinton psyche . Well, they dont fully offset it, but she is still ahead, and she still has, if you take if you did a stupid thing and took the latest single public polls never battleground state, shed still win. So the bottom hasnt fallen out, trump still hasnt broken through in enough places to say that hes had parody with her in terms of his chances to win. And look, i know people think we get paid to be definitive and decisive. I still believe all these states could break in one direction or another. And she may end up winning a state like georgia. I think she could end up winning a state like arizona, but she could also end up starting to lose. And ill just say, Momentum Matters at the end. Shes holding on. Shes not collapsing. But its hard to say that she got any momentum right now compared to trump. You see that in the polling data, out on the stump, you see that in the advertising. Right, agree with that. Of course, the question is, if she doesnt have momentum, which i think youre right, its clear she doesnt have a lot of forward momentum. If you are in the lead in the final week and you just hold serve, you end up winning. I just think the florida poll is, right now, the true campaigns give privately, different assessments of where things are. That florida poll that we just put up, fourpoint lead for Hillary Clinton is what i think most democrats now think is the case. So if that poll has captured a reality and Hillary Clinton is going to win florida, that is as consequential as any other single thing in this entire race. Game, set, sunshine match if she can. We talk a lot here, as people do on other programs, about trumps narrow path to 270 electoral votes. The states he would need to win including florida to get there. But we want to flip things around to show you why Hillary Clinton has the upper hand in this race, becauseer journey to 270 is relatively simple. You start with the solid blues, places like california, new york, hawaii, rhode island. Those have 195 electoral votes. You could bank those for Hillary Clinton. Then look at these states. 59 states that have are states that have 59 electoral votes. Those are ones that are leaning her way, where shes got big leads in the public polling. Averaging five or more. If she wins those, she has 16 electoral votes away. And you can see that final list of where she would need to get 16. Either winning florida or ohio alone would do it. Otherwise, some combination of those. Now, you go back to the leaning list, and again, trumps challenging in every one of those, with the possible exception of virginia. Can trump take any of those away . Maybe. But you can see, again, under current public polling, Hillary Clinton is just 16 electoral votes away, with a relative ease. If trump starts to dig into that list, were dealing with a different situation. Yeah, i mean, its a the thing about this is, im looking at the list here and trying to get my head around it. The thing about the leaners, right, at this moment, pennsylvania, virginia, michigan, wisconsin, and new mexico, all leaning democratic, of those states, four, excluding virginia, of those states, four, have been states that democrats have won consistently at the president ial level now cycle after cycle. You would have to go back to the 90s to find any one of those states going republican, i believe. And virginia was a closer run battleground, but shes been comfortably ahead there for a long time. I would be shocked, shocked if any of those states end up in Donald Trumps column. Doesnt mean its impossible, but i would be shocked. And if you look at those, i think that is a really kind of illustrates why she is in the state still. I know Donald Trumps contesting them right now, but they are big reaches for him to win any of those. Yeah, youve used the word shocked. If you woke up tomorrow and showed trump ahead in any of those states or trump moving nationally, i dont think at this point people should say theyre shocked. Thats not to predict its going to happen, but shes still bedevilled by wikileaks. And i said earlier in the week and ill say it earlier again, hearing from a lot of republican operatives, the Affordable Care act thing is in the minds of a lot of voters. Its certainly bringing republicans home. And republicans believe in a lot of these contested races, its going to really help. And again, if we can put the list of states back up, people have got to remember that in a lot of these states, there are contested senate races, in the swing states, and in those contested senate races, with one or two exceptions, the republican candidates continue to do quite well, and if ticket splitting is minimized, that can make a big difference in the hospital the solid list. We want to go over there to the list of the leaning. Youve got a race in pennsylvania, youve got one in wisconsin, and on the tossups, senate races in florida, ohio, North Carolina, nevada, all of those states, New Hampshire, all of those states have those contested senate races. And again, republicans are in much better shape in those races than most people thought they would be. Right. Ill just say, just to go back to my shocked comment, very quickly, if donald trump wins two of those six democratic leaning states we had, i think that means hell win virtually every one of the tossup states. That means that a National Wave has happened at the very last minute in this election. I dont expect that to happen, which is part of why i say i would be shocked. Nothing is impossible, but it would mean that trumps caught a big, big wave and a bigger wave than weve seen in this race so far, and a bigger wave than anything trumps come close to riding in the campaign to date. All right, up next, Melania Trump, making a Rare Campaign trail appearance today. Well talk about that and more when we come back. See ya next year. This season, start a new tradition. Experience the power of infiniti now, with leases starting at 319 a month. Infiniti. Empower the drive. Before her infamous speech at the Republican National convention this summer in cleveland, Melania Trump was a phantom on the campaign trail, her big cleveland moment ended pretty badly when it was discovered part of her speech was lifted almost verbatim from Michelle Obamas own Convention Speech years earlier. Since then, weve only really seen trumps wife and a handful of tv interviews, but all that changed today when mrs. Trump reemerged and spoke at a Campaign Event in berwyn, pennsylvania. Donald promised to campaign on behalf of those who feel the system is broken and does not work for them. Those who just want a fair shake, an opportunity for a better education, a better paying job, a better future. So, mark, this represents a late and unusual appearance in the campaign by Melania Trump. What do you think is the reason they didnt use her more and sooner . I think she wanted to spend time with her son, and i think that, obviously, she was shaken, at least a bit, by the convention experience, where she was inadvertently had lifted things from the first lady. You know, her speech today, i thought was they need to try to win over more women in that part of philadelphia. I thought signaling out being against cyberbullying, when her husband is probably the nations premiere cyberbully was maybe not the best choice, but other than that, i think it shows it highlights the fact that she has been absent and they have missed out on the prospect of a pretty major surrogate. Yeah, im not sure about that. I think the vngs thing obviously mattered, but it is no disto Melania Trump to say she is not the most relatable president ial nominees spouse that weve ever had out there. Her glamour, all the things that are many of her at tributes, the things that stand out most about her are things that make her an imperfect menninger, i think, to a lot of ordinary voters. So i dont know how much they have actually missed by not having her out there. She was fine today, but im not sure she cost them a lot by not having her out the there more frequently. Part of the problem is, this takes practice. Michelle obama is now one of the best speakers in the country. I saw her early on in her husbands president ial campaign. She wasnt the person she is now. And they put a lot of pressure on her by having her speak to rarely. Second day in a row, a guy pretty accomplished on the trail, president obama was out on the campaign trail for Hillary Clinton for the second day in a row, this time in florida. The president once again picked a fight with Melania Trumps husband. When i ran in 08, i ran against john mccain and disagreed with him on a whole bunch of stuff, but i didnt fear for the republic. I just thought i would be a better president. When i ran against mitt romney in 2012, i disagreed with him on all kinds of things. But, although i thought i was going to be a better president , i did not think that our democracy would be injured by him taking office. This is different. Today, the Clinton Campaign announced theres going to be a double date on the campaign trail on monday. Bill and Hillary Clinton appearing with barack and Michelle Obama in philadelphia. So, john, what, at this point, do the pros and cons appear to be to having the president play such a leading role in this campaign . I cant say that i see have many cons at this point. As weve said now for weeks, hes a very popular president at this moment. His Approval Ratings high. Hes, you know, as accomplished a political athlete as there is in the country right now. And seeing him out there again today, if i were Hillary Clinton, i would be thanking my lucky stars that i have him on my side and hes willing to do so much for her in these closing days. Hes so into it today at the rally, he literally read out the address of where people could go early vote in florida, ten minutes from the address site, gave the url a site from all over the country can use to turn out. I think this if Hillary Clintonnds up holding on and winning, i think people will look at the data, and look at the flow of the News Coverage and see that he, president obama played whats turning out to be the modern era, an unprecedented role for an incumbent president , trying to help get his chosen successor into office. Yeah, i think thats right. And we all said that we thought he would be pretty active in this campaign, especially when it became clear that donald trump was the republican nominee, but hes been way more active than i think most people expected. And way more passionate, way more engaged. I think he, for all the reasons we discussed many times in this program, really could be really the stakes could be really high and he wants to do whatever he can to help Hillary Clinton hold on. Up next, we have a tour de force, nbc political correspondent, katy tur joining us after these words from our sponsors. stranger good mornin store p. A. attention shoppers, theres a lost couple in the mens department. vo theres a great big unkhaki world out there. Explore it in a subaru crosstrek. Love. Its what makes a subaru, a subaru. Incr. Think it wouldotection in a pwork, but it does. Dnt. Its called always discreet for bladder leaks, the super. Absorbent core turns liquid to gel. I know im wearing it but no one else will. 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But at the same time, his campaign is very much been defined by attacks. Oftentimes personal attacks for other people online, on social media, or at rallies or in interviews. But also attacks against the establishment, attacks against Hillary Clinton, attacks against the idea that the whole system is out and rigged not just against donald trump, necessarily, but the american people. It so makes sense for him to continue on during this next five days, but also, he needs to distract from his onslaught of negative headlines that weve been talking about now for 16, 17 months. This is his best chance to focus on Hillary Clinton entirely, to get out of the way and just let her wallow in a slew of bad headlines of her own. So this is a calculated move by the campaign. Its one that they believe will help them regain some ground. Its one republican operatives will regain some ground, just so long as donald trump is able to stay on that message. Katy, a question we were just discussing on the program about Melania Trump. Shes out there today. She hasnt done very much publicly. Why now . And do they have any regrets about not using her more . Well, lets look at where she was, specifically, today. She was in the suburbs of philadelphia. The main line of philadelphia. This is where donald trump needs to pick up a woman vote. He needs to pick up republican women in this area and get them to vote for him. So melania was deployed there, very strategically. Shes trying to portray the softer side of not only donald trump, but the softer side of their family. So it is a method they need to use going down for the next five days. Because he does not have the support of women other past republican candidates had, essential not what mitt romney had in 2012. And if hes going to have a fighting chance against Hillary Clinton, they need to find a way to stem the bleeding against republican women. Do they wish she came out on the campaign trail more . Theyre not saying that to me in conversations, but i would be surprised if they did not think they could have used her more. Of course, shes been not so apparent on the campaign trail. She had that speech at the Republican National convention, but we havent seen her much on the trail, even by Donald Trumps side during this campaign. Hes been very much focused on trump the personality, rather than his family life. Weve seen more of his kids, though, on the trail than melania. But what i found so interesting about her speech today, and im sure you did as well, that she was talking about what she would be like as first lady. And the issues that she would focus on. Specifically bullying. Bullying on social media. And how she said that this the rhetoric in this country has just gotten too mean and we need to find a better way to communicate and talk to each other. And thats raising a lot of eyebrows today, because donald trump has built a campaign on namecalling and insulting and undercutting his opponents in absolutely any way he can. And also his social media following, that goes after critics of him, with ferocity. So that was certainly eyebrow raising. Again, do they wish melania was on the trail more . I would assume they did, even though theyre not saying it publicly. Earlier in the show, katy, i said trump was the countrys biggest, most prominent cyberbully, so her remarks seem at least ironic, if nothing else. Weve got about a minute left. Im wondering, at 30,000 fee here, it wasnt that long ago that Kellyanne Conway was acknowledging that trump was the underdog. Trump always says hes the favorite. But in my conversations with Campaign Aides now, theyre suggesting that this race is tight or they may even be the favorite at this point. Whats your sense of their not his posture, but his staffs posture about where they stand . Reporter his staff is extraordinarily confident right now. They were handed a gift last friday with the revival of the fbi investigation. And then another gift with obamacare premiums rising. And yet another one with the cnn allegations of Donna Brazile giving Hillary Clinton questions gfr debates. So they have a lot to feel positive about. They feel like their internal polling is showing them gaining ground in a lot of these states. They even claimed theyre gaining ground in a pretty blue state like new mexico, but, listen, if you talk to people outside of the campaign, one step removed, they will say, it is still going to be tough for donald trump to win, but what theyre most hopeful about right now is the fact that hes moving in a more positive direction in the polls, means not normal that hes going to win, but that downballot races are in a much better position than they were even last week. Katy tur, thank you very much. 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Id look her right in that fat, ugly face of hers. Hes a war hero because he was captured. I like people that arent captured, okay . Youve got to see this guy, uh, i dont know what i said, i dont remember a person who is flatchested is very hard to be a 10. Our military is a disaster. When mexico sends its people, theyre bringing drugs. Theyre rapists. I would like to punch him in the face, ill tell you. Get him out of here those were some excerpts from the latest tv ads from the trump and Clinton Campaigns. Were joined now by washington, d. C. But tracy supple, a Democratic Communications consultant and a Senior Adviser to the Democratic National convention, and up in chambers, massachusetts, former Campaign Manager for Carly Fiorinas president ial run. We just saw those ladies in the opposite order i introduced them. So great to see you, tracy and sarah. Let me start out with you, tracy, and ill ask you the same question, same question were asking everybody when we start out these blocks right now. Where do you see the race . Well, first of all, mark, im in chicago and i see the race, frankly, and i see everything right now through the lens of last nights huge win. So forgive me for the euphoria thats still extending here. But as far as the race goes, i think were in a good place. What hillarys got going for her continues to be one of her strongest advantages. And thats her ground game. And whats happening in the states and the organization and the early voting, all of these factors are very much in her favor. And im feeling confident about tuesday night. Tracy, congratulations on your cubs, by the way. I should have probably said that in the introduction. Right sarah no kidding, sorry about that. Go cubs good for you. Youve been waiting a long time for that. Congratulations. Youre up there in boston, i believe. Youre in the right place. Where do you think about where the race stands right now . Well, look, i would have agreed that hillary has this muchvaunted ground game, but it hasnt been turning out. You look at these early vote numbers that are showing up in florida, in North Carolina, and if i were the Hillary Campaign, i would be getting extraordinarily nervous. I think at this point, when you have New Hampshire tied and nevada closing in, with im going to keep watching those nevada numbers move, because i think thats where this might come down no florida and North Carolina get away from her. Sarah, give me an anecdote. Tell me about somebody you know who wasnt for trump before, but now is. You know what, im not sure that its people changing their mind, actually, but what we saw about a week and a half ago is that the enthusiasm numbers flipped. You know, this last three months, trumps enthusiasm numbers had been higher, but then hillary took over. And her enthusiasm numbers were higher. What happened with the comey emails, those numbers changed again, when you have two such unlikable candidates. And i think we can see why based on the ads you just showed. Then i think thats a real problem. And so, you know, whereas 2012, republicans were down in early vote count, theyre now up. And by quite, you know, a real margin. In North Carolina, the turnout operation just isnt working. So either Hillary Clintons campaign is intentionally not turning early voters out and they were lying the whole time before they said that that was their strategy, or, in fact, things arent going the way they thought they would. Tracy, as you look at the new clinton ads and the continued attempts to sort of define donald trump as unacceptable, is that working . Or do you think thats not working . Well, what i think is masterful about the approach is that all of these ads are just donald, himself, footage of him, talking, the things hes said, the things hes done. Its really a sort of handsoff, you could say, for the Hillary Campaign. He just makes the case for himself through his ridiculousness and the lying and the dangerous and qudivisive things that he says. I think the fact that all you have to do is play the tape of him tells the story and tells it extraordinarily well. Particularly, when you think about the negative ads that hes running against, hillary, are largely based on innuendo, as opposed to video clips of hillary herself talking. Hes given the campaign a gift in this regard. And i think that the Clinton Campaign is smart to be utilizing it the way they have. Tracy, let me just push back on you a little bit. As i looked at those ads, what struck me about them, in addition to the fact that the Clinton Campaign ad is beautifully produced, and the Trump Campaign ad looks a little bit more like a tabloid style, more garish. But the reality is the kind of arguments in the Clinton Campaigns ad, arguments in the ad, are arguments that shes been making for months and months. And the ads, the style of ads weve been seeing for months and months, the Trump Campaign is injecting Fresh Information and fresh controversy into the race. So it seems to me that ad is a little bit more eye catching and has a greater possibility for impact at this late stage because its new. It has the feel of something new. Does that not concern you, or do you not see that at all when you compare those side by side. What i do know is how many people are going to make their decisions, assuming they havent voted yet, theyre going to make their decisions based on their conversations with their friends and their colleagues and their neighbors. I dont see any instance where a tv ad is someones ultimate deciding factor. So in that regard, five days out, im not concerned. I think youre right that theres a garish, tabloidish quality to what the Trump Campaign is doing. And i can tell you last night during the series when one of those ads came on, when i was watching with, the place erupted into boos. Its not a welcome sight right now. Sarah, let me ask you, we were talking before about paths to 270 electoral votes and put up a bunch of states that are leaning democratic states that donald trump is the now spending time in, places like New Hampshire, michigan, wisconsin. Just from a strategic standpoint, do you think it makes sense for him to be spending these pressures days in states like that, that have been blue for so long . No, i would be locking down florida, North Carolina, and then battling in nevada, New Hampshire, and pennsylvania. What i do think is stunning, though, is that the Hillary Campaign is sending hillary to michigan tomorrow. Nothing shows me the internal panic of a campaign as much as the candidates schedule and going to a state that doesnt have a senate race, nothing explains that, except that they think that michigan is on the happen. And if michigans on the map for them, this whole thing is slipping away pretty quickly. I think its stunning that a democrat would say that tv ads dont matter, when clinton has so wildly outspent trump on tv. And now theyre saying, well, that part doesnt matter. I think theres a lot of panic going on inside hillarys camp right now. I think its warranted and i think that moving forward, theyre going to have to do some soul searching about what their message is going to be heading into sunday monday in order to turn their voters out. Election day has traditionally been a republican day. Tracy, are you panicked . I appreciate opposite of. Opposite of. And i appreciate sarahs point, although i think she was misconstruing what i said. Its not that ads dont matter. What im saying is that the cumulative process that this campaign and yes, the millions and millions of dollars that have been spent on tv ads, have made the case. One ad now in these final five days is not going to be the make or break. Its the sum total that were talking about here. Okay. Tracy sefl, because the cubs won, tracy gets the last word. Stick around. Youre coming back. More on these two fantastic strategists are coming back. If youre watching us in washington, d. C. , dont forget, you can listen to us on the radio radio at bloomberg 99. 1 f. M. Well be back with them. These goofy glasses. Yeah. Well, we gotta hand it to fedex. Theyve helped make our ecommerce so easy, and now were getting all kinds of new customers. I know. Can you believe were getting orders from canada, ireland. This ones going to new zealand. New zealand . Psst. Ah, false alarm. Hey you guys are gonna scare away the deer idiots. Providing Global Access for small business. Fedex. Well, if you want to sing out, sing out and if you want to be free, be free cause theres a million things to be you know that there are and if you want to be me, be me and if you want to be you, be you cause theres a million things to do you know that there are back with democratic strategist, tracy sefl and in chicago, republican strategist sarah flores in boston. I want to ask you guys about wikileaks. Sarah, there have been lots of documents out, but theres been nothing thats a huge silver bullet. But if you were to choose one of the disclosures, either a specific email from the podesta inbox or outbox or a theme, what would you say has been the most damaging to Hillary Clinton . Well, id actually pick thing past this election, which is, i think that the Donna Brazile emails really validate what Bernie Sanders has been saying about their primary process being rigged. I think it really validates that claim. So i think moving forward, youll see a lot more dissension in the democratic ranks, especially in the base. I think those leaks were incredibly damaging to the inside structure of the party and the party elites in the democratic party. But you dont think theyve done anything to help donald trump . Not really. I mean, i think, i mean, weve seen nothing in particular that would have changed voters minds, enusiasm, maybe. Overall, i think that the fbi email issues are far more impactful, you know, if you dont want the fbi involved in your election, dont nominate someone being investigated by the fbi. So, i think that thats really setting with voters, that this is someone that they just cant really trust, on National Security issues. Tracy, what do you think the impact of the wikileaks disclosures day after day, has been, if any, on trumps chances and clintons chances . Oh, considering the manner in which these wikileaks documents were received, its difficult for me to say, oh, okay, therefore, theyre going to have a profound impact on this election. What could have a profound impact on this election is the very fact of the crime and the manner in which they were collected and released. Thats where i see the problem. What were talking about with this cybersecurity issues and hostile foreign states potential involvement in these leaks. Thats the larger concern. And i believe thats the concern that lasts well beyond election day. But, tracy, dont you think its possible that voters would actually see this and think, yeah, that means hillarys server was probably hacked, too. Um, appreciate the question, but i dont think so. I think that its clear that this story has been playing out for so long, so agonizingly long, that anyone who had formed an opinion about it, formed that opinion some time ago. Tracy, theres word and reporting today that the fbi is not likely to finish its review of the emails that are the subject of this latest kind of phase of the inquiry before election day. Just from the standpoint of Hillary Clinton and from the standpoint of the race itself, do you think its important that that it would be important for the fbi to try to come forward with some kind of a statement before election day, or if they havent finished their inquiry, if their inquiry isnt completely finished, they should keep their mouths shut and not get back into this election again before tuesday . Well, i would be happy to not have them rear their heads again. Its clear that that place is a mess. Whether its Management Issues or the leaks that were seeing or the constant sort of bewildering information that were seeing. And on top of all of that, its still all very vague. We dont even know what it is were talking about, that theyre reviewing or not reviewing or finishing or not fini finishing. So at this point, given the mess that they have made and the muddled circumstances that all of us have been forced to sort of muck around in, lets be done with it. Thats my personal opinion and i certainly hope im right. Tracy sefl, congratulations on that baseball victory last night. And sarah flores, thank you. Congratulations for being part of america. Well be right back. Check in with two reporters in washington about the campaign after these words from our sponsors. Liberty mutual stood with me when i was too busy with the kids to get a repair estimate. Liberty did what . Yeah, with Liberty Mutual all i needed to do to get an estimate was snap a photo of the damage and voila voila sigh i wish my Insurance Company had that. Wait hold it. Hold it boys. Theres supposed to be three of you. Wheres your brother . Wheres your brother . Hey, wheres charlie . Charlie . you can leave worry behind when liberty stands with you. Liberty stands with you™ Liberty Mutual insurance we are five days away from the election, and we are joined now by two people who hopefully have long vacations planned in their future. In our nations capital, we have washington editor for the national review, eliana johnson, and from the Washington Post newsroom, we have the great meteah gold. Eliana, i want to ask you this question to start. It is said and seems to be true that what is happening with donald trump and him closing the gap between him and Hillary Clinton has to do with the republican consolidation and republicans coming home to donald trump. Can you explain to me why republicans are coming home . Whats driving that at this late stage . Yeah, i think thats right. And you can see it most clearly in utah, where the independent candidate, evan mcmullin, had been surging in the polls, as recently as last week. And donald trump is actually leading the latest polls and mcmullin has fallen to third place in some of them. But i think, as you get closer and closer to election day, there tend to be fewer and fewer undecided voters. And so, i think its natural to see the people who had been sitting on their hands and telling pollsters that theyre unwilling to vote for donald trump, coming home as election day nears. But, eliana, just stay with you about this. Obviously, its the case that the race has tightened and undecided voters eventually go one way or another. But republicans who had profound misgivings about donald trump for months, whats happened, do you think, in the state, and whats happening in the race thats caused people who had big misgivings about trump to abandon those misgivings and come back to their natural home . One factor, i think, is that trump has pretty much been quiet for the past few weeks, and i think one constant in this race has been that whoever whichever candidate is in the headlines, the other candidate benefits. So, when donald trump is making news, Hillary Clinton benefits. And vice versa. While its Hillary Clinton whos been in the headlines for the past few weeks and donald trump has benefited. Most of this campaign, donald trump has played right into Hillary Clintons hand, eaten up most of the newspaper headlines and air time on television shows, but that hasnt been the case for the past couple of weeks. And i think thats redounded to trumps benefit. Meteah, on the democratic side, we have sort of a mirror image situation going on, as republicans are coming home and theres a lot of republican enthusiasm, democrats seem very worried now about turnout among core elements of the democratic base, the obama coalition. And theres sop evidence to suggest theyre right to be worried. What can the Clinton Campaign do, if anything, or what do they plan to do to try to fix that problem in the very short amount of time remaining before election day . Well, you see their action plan deployed right now. The spear is really president obama who is out there nonstop from now until election day. Yesterday, North Carolina. Today in florida, making incredibly kind of personal appeals to frip voters. He said yesterday hes worried that the africanamerican vote is not as solid as it should be. Hes telling those voters, look, this is a vote for my legacy. If you want my legacy to continue, you immediate to cast your ballot. You need to come out to vote. So well see him put it out on the line. And you know, the Clinton Campaign is also using their enormous war chest to run a last blitz of ads aimed at africanamerican and latino voters, their allied super pac is jumping in as well, so therell be no shortage of outreach to these voters, but the question is if you can mobilize and get them to feel the stakes of this election. Meteah, theres been a lot of focus on the africanamerican piece of this. And we talked about it at some length on the show yesterday. Im curious about whether theres a similar problem or not among hispanic voters. Obviously, a larger segment of the population and super important. What do you know about the degree to which enthusiasm about enthusiasm levels among at key demographic for Hillary Clinton . We are seeing some early indications, actually, of the latino vote being up in key states, places like nevada and florida. So actually, i think democrats feel more confident about that demographic. And weve seen an incredible amount of energy going in to register latino voters and get them out to the polls and trumps polarizing comments from the beginning of this campaign have really mobilized that community. Youre hearing from activists on the ground that people are engaged. Its just a matter of making sure that people who are lowpropensity voters actually know where to go, and they actually know how to cast their ballots. I want to talk more about the Electoral College and correct something we got wrong earlier. We made an error on our graphic. Appreciate those on twitter who aggressively pointed that out. Heres the updated, corrected graphic, that shows, again, Hillary Clintons solidblue states like california, rhode island, that gives her 195 electoral votes. The middle column is states where clinton is leading in public polling, but five points or more. Pennsylvania, virginia, michigan, wisconsin, and new mexico. Thats 64 total electoral votes. And that gets her within just 11 shed need to get from that last column. And as you can see there, theres plenty of options. So matea, this illustrates that Hillary Clinton has a far easier road to this point to 270, that trump will have to have a national surge. Hes not going to be able to cherry pick his way to 270 electoral votes. Does that make sense to you . Yeah, and he has to have so many things go in his favor at this point. The Trump Campaign sees a lot of potential in these blue states, but the reality is, you know, he needs florida and blue states, he needs to create a coalition of a lot of these places in order to carve that path. Its just, she has to hold him off just in a couple of key places. And thats still the case, even though the polls have tightened, i think that she still had, obviously, more ways to get there than he does at this point. Eliana, im sure youre experiencing with the people who are working directly for donald trump, theyre ecstatic and believe this is now close to theirs to lose. What are you hearing from republicans working on downballot races, from republicans who are for trump, but not wild about trump . Are they now significantly more optimistic about his prospects . I actually think the most significant ramification of this tightening of the race will not be for trump himself, who i think is still likely to lose on tuesday, but for some of these downballot republicans, who can only run so far ahead of trump. They cant outrun him by ten points, but they can, maybe, by five or six points. So people are much more optimistic, for example, about Republicans Holding the senate. Somebody like kelly ayotte in New Hampshire or even pat toomey in pennsylvania, who is running neck and neck, with his relatively weak democratic challenger, katie mcginty, some republicans are much more optimistic about their chances to win those races than they were, say, ten days ago. Eliana has the prerogative to do dodge my question. So matea, did supporters seem more optimistic about trump chances than they did a week ago . I think the people paying attention to this race are worried about the ground effort. Theyre worried about the fact that the democrats and clinton have an incredible unbalance when it comes to mobilizing voters. And that is the direct result of her superior fundraising operation, that she started a full, you know, year before she did. So, that is something that, i think, the day after the election, were going to be sifting through a lot of this to figure out what happened. I think thats going to be a key role. Matea gold, thank you both. John and i will be right back. s kiosk maps your feet and recommends our custom fit orthotic to stabilize your foundation and relieve lowerback, knee or foot pain from being on your feet. Find your nearest kiosk at drscholls. Com. Also available from dr. Scholls heavy duty support for lower back pain, lightens the impact of every step. Lots of vitamins a c, and, only 50 calories a serving. Good morning, indeed. V8. Veggies for all. 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