Transcripts For MSNBCW Weekends With Alex Witt 20200223 : co

Transcripts For MSNBCW Weekends With Alex Witt 20200223

About it. Ive seen zero intelligence that russia is doing anything to help to help to help President Trump get reelected. Projected winner. Whos happy and whos getting worried about Bernie Sanders momentum. A mystery in palm beach athat hthat has slipped under the radar, where six Chinese Tourists or were they spies from china . New reports of russia again attempting to interfere in u. S. Elections. Democrats sounding the alarm. The russians never stopped interfering in american politics. They dont just get involved in elections. They are involved every sing day. And analysis of what theyve been doing on twitter since 2016 has been pretty clear. They are weighing in over and over again in support of right wing causes, in support of Donald Trumps political agenda, and of course it stands to reason that they want donald trump reelected because he has been a gift to russia. Meanwhile, the white house denying reports the kremlin is trying to help trumps reelection and that contradicts the findings of u. S. Intelligence officials, also according to reports. As for the president , who is on his way to india for a state visit, also weighing in on the subject a bit earlier on the south lawn. Lets go to nbcs hans nichols joining us from the white house. Hans, good sunday to you, what did the president say about this . Roer reporter the president is, number one, accusing adam schiff of leaking all this, hes saying the democrats are doing this to somehow sabotage or sandbag Bernie Sanders chances for the nomination. Hes saying he has no inside knowledge and he hasnt been briefed on any of this intelligence. I asked him that question directly. Have a listen. Nobody said it. I read where russia is helping Bernie Sanders. Nobody said it to me at all. Nobody briefed me about that at all. The uh, what they try and do is, uh, certain people like certain people to have information. No different than its been. But i have not been briefed on that at all. Nobody told me about it. Reporter so alex, the rhetoric across the administration is consistent this morning. You have the president saying he wasnt briefed. You have marc short on the sunday shows saying they didnt receive any intelligence. And Robert Obrien, National Security adviser, is also saying the same thing. We dont know to what extent there may have been a key briefing that people were involved in. But theres flat denial across the line from the president. The president , when he walked over to us a couple of hours ago, he made a point of congratulating Bernie Sanders and made a point of trying to foment extedissent within the Democratic Party, saying it may be rigged against Bernie Sanders, like people tried to rig things against me. So the president , in perhaps the clearest hes been, says he thinks bernie will be the nominee and hes preparing to meet him in the general election, alex. Okay. Hans nichols from the white house, getting us started, thank you so much. Joining me now, msnbc contributor charlie savage, also the washington correspondent for the New York Times. Charlie, can you clarify what is really going on here as we have the president s National Security adviser saying he has seen reports that russia wants sanders to be elected president but also said he has not heard anything to suggest russia is trying to get trump reelected. What is your take on this . I think theres a lot of murk around this and obviously reporters on the outside are trying to see this through a glass darkly. What theyre trying to see, through leaks and fragments of information that we mosaic together, is what the Intelligence Community is also struggling to understand about what russia is up to, through its own imperfect mix of intelligence and analysis. The Intelligence Community should put out an Intelligence Community assessment saying exactly what they think is happening in a declassified form and then we dont have to say do we believe trump or his National Security adviser or not. Lets hear what they have to say. But right now the imperfect information is allowing spin for political purposes in all kinds of directions. Okay. I want to parse words here and get really detailed because Trump Administration officials, and specific to the president himself, lets say, they say they havent seen the intelligence showing that russian interference is evident in the campaigns. What does that mean . Does it mean the president has not actually laid eyes on the intelligence . Hasnt he been briefed on this . Reporter one would hope. Of course we also know, though, that trump doesnt necessarily like to hear intelligence, whether its about 2016 or 2020, about russian interference. He still is smarting over the implication that even if there was no proven conspiracy with his campaign with russia, nevertheless russia was trying to help him win in 2016. He thinks that takes away from the legitimacy of his narrow election back then. There are plenty of reporting streams from all directions about how this is not something you want to bring up with the president. So i dont know whats going on in 2020. We do know that Joseph Maguire was just ousted from the dni position surrounding this and concurrent with this blowup over what the House Intelligence Committee was told. And the whole thing looks very troubling from a perspective of whether candid intelligence that may not be what the president wants to hear is going to reach congress and even reach the oval office. Suffice it to say, the president and his advisers are brushing off this threat. But what kind of message does that send and how damaging could that be . Right, well, one of the difficulties of all this is both in 2016 and now, is the conflation of different insights. Did russia attempt to interfere in the election . Did it attempt to do so in favor of a particular candidate . And what do we make of that now . The trump world message of the russia hoax and the russia hoax is happening again tends to conflate the whole collusion question with the pretty much undeniable, entirely undeniable fact that russia did in 2016 at least attempt to manipulate our electoral process. And i think that same disinformation or confusion or murkiness is now clouding our attempts to understand whats happening in real time at this moment. So if i ask you what is happening right now in terms of where does the truth lie, can you answer that . I would be lying if i said i did. I think a lot of the people putting out hot takes in all directions, speaking on sunday shows with great confidence and authority that this is whats happening, everyone should look at all of those across the spectrum with a grain of salt right now. The whole thing is extremely troubling and extremely difficult to parse. And i think even inside the use government, they may not fully understand what theyre looking at, if theyre honest with themselves about it. Charlie savage, what are you doing here request with me . Get back to figuring it all out so we can answer the question. Thank you, my friend. Nbc is projecting Bernie Sanders will win the nevada caucuses. Hes been awarded 13 of the 36 nevada delegates. The key groups supporting sanders, voters under age 30, lati latinos. Joe biden has 19 , Pete Buttigieg 15 . Now Bernie Sanders and his wife celebrating with supporters in texas last night, the crowd cheering and chanting as he pushed his campaign message. Brothers and sisters, if we stand together, we will not only defeat trump, we will transform this country and create a government and an economy that works for all of us, not wealthy campaign contributors. Thank you all very much. Today the candidates are spread across the country, covering eight states in a campaigning brilitz ahead of soh carolinas primary, where joe biden is leading. Biden is campaigning in South Carolina today. Earlier he was asked about his support in the state and whether he can hold onto it. Pete buttigieg also in South Carolina today, hes raising questions about the results from nevadas caucuses. In fact his campaign sent a letter to the States Democratic Party alleging errors in caucus reporting of early voting, asking that they release those totals, correct alignment errors and explain anomalies in the data. And the next nine days are critical for the eight Democratic Candidates starting with tuesdays debate, then to saturdays South Carolina primary, then on to super tuesday were over 1,300 delegates are up for grabs. Joining me now, nbcs garrett haake, live still in las vegas, youve been there for a bit now, garrett. What all is at stake over these next nine days . Reporter oh, just everything, alex, in the democratic primary process. Look, the convention is not until this summer but this race could effectively be over come super tuesday if Bernie Sanders continues on the trajectory hes on now. Hes put together a coalition that none of the other candidates can match right now in terms of young voters and latino voters, breaking into the margins of older voters which had been the strength of joe biden and other rivals. Hes in texas yesterday and today, he spent a good portion of the leadup to nevada campaigning in california. These are the big delegaterich super tuesday states where he hopes the machine that he has built can give him a nearly insurmountable lead. Here he was last night in san antonio. What we showed is that our volunteers are prepared to knock on hundreds and hundreds of thousands of doors. [ cheering ] that no campaign has a Grassroots Movement like we do. Which is another reason why were going to win this election. Reporter and alex, it really is the case that no other candidate can match sanders army right now and the way hes able to compete nationally in all these states at once. If you look at the map and you see where these candidates are campaigning today, trying to make inroads in states where they think they have specific strength. Amy klobuchar in places like oklahoma and arkansas, north dakota today, those are super tuesday states many other candidates wont venture there, theyre more conservative, they may play well to her more moderate politics. Pete buttigieg has more in stake in North Carolina, he has to continue to use the early states, one into the next to the next. If youre joe biden, youre happy to come in second yesterday, albeit a distant second. Well know a lot after South Carolina. Super tuesday is just a few days after South Carolina, a very narrow window where we could see this race change dramatically or lock onto this course where Bernie Sanders is walking to the nomination. Given the fact that you have eyes on all these different candidates and campaigns, can you give me a sense what have the sentiment was from everyone but Bernie Sanders and joe biden with whom you referenced there, what they felt like leavining nevada . Reporter i think if youre Pete Buttigieg, there was some frustration. They thought they were going to come in around third place, they thought if they had a really good night they could get into second. Thats why you saw them releasing that letter, a complaint to the nevada Democratic Party about how the votes were counted. Theyre going to continue to fight this out. Elizabeth warrens campaign hoped they would get more of a bounce out of her debate performance, but you didnt see it reflected in the final count in nevada. Part of the reason four that may be that so much of the vote was in the early vote by the time she had that moment, the voting process was partially over. In New Hampshire claim banked votes from her great debate performance. Amy klobuchar put a lot of time and resources in nevada and she has the least of the three major remaining candidates. They were hoping to do better in reno and northern parts of the state. She has probably the toughest path and toughest argument to make of any candidate thats spent considerable amounts in the campaign, except possibly for tom steyer. Okay, garrett haake, you tth you so much. 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And here is what democratic strategist James Carville told my colleague Nicolle Wallace last night. If youre voting for him because you think hell within the election because hell galvanize heretofore sleepy parts of the electorate, youre a fool. Sounds like political suicide. It is. Joining me now, danielle moodiemills, host of woke a. F. Daily, don callaway, former Campaign Aide for due value patrick, and susan del percio, republican strategist. Danielle, what due make of what James Carville said there, is it political suicide for democrats potentially nominating sanders . No, i dont think its political suicide. I think what its showing is there is a deep fracture within the Democratic Party. There are folks that want us to continue along with the moderates and sevn centrists an Bernie Sanders represents the overhaul. Hes talking about big, substantive, ideological change. And young people, who frankly are struggling in this country, are grasping on to what hes saying in a very big way. Susan, the argument by the establishment democrats that bernie cant win, didnt republicans say the same thing about donald trump in 2016 . They sure did. But there is one different dynamic that were looking at right now, and its whoever the democrat nominee is, they will not have the same baggage as Hillary Clinton. And its not a knock against Hillary Clinton, its just a reality. She had one of the highest negative and untrustworthy numbers only to donald trump in 2016. But, you know, to danielles point, theres never a good time for a revolution if youre the establishment, tblit just doesn work out that way. If thats where the party is going to go, so be it. But it does come with consequences. And i think what James Carville is talking about, and someone like me who has worked in districts that are swing districts, is that it will be very hard to keep those swing districts, especially in the house, when you have a candidate that is for open borders, is for taking away health care, private insurance, from 150 million people, especially those in t

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