Transcripts For MSNBCW Weekends With Alex Witt 20190428 : co

Transcripts For MSNBCW Weekends With Alex Witt 20190428

And the possible motive. Were learning why the attorney general may not testify this week before a key house committ committee. Mind the gap. And past and present president s. Hear what they said coming up. Breaking news this morning. New details on the sin xwynagog shooting in california. It happened as worshipers were celebrating the last day of passover. Police have a suspect in custody. He walked into the synagogue and opened fire with an assaultstyle rifle. President trump praised the response from Law Enforcement officers and condemned hate. Americas heart is with the victims of the horrific synagogue shooting, in poway, california, just happened. Our entire nation mourns the loss of life, prays for the wounded and stands in solidarity with the jewish community. We forcefully condemn the evil of antisemitism and hate, which must be defeated. Caliperry joins us across the street from where this all happened. Im sure people will be adding to the memorial behind you. Reporter we expect people to be coming here throughout the day. The shooting very fresh for this community, taking place about 18 hours ago. It was 11 30 in the morning, when a 19yearold entered the synagogue behind me. It is full. It is the last day of passover. Services were under way. Something happened that forced that shooting to stop. A gun, the rifle that the shooter had jammed or could have been an offduty cbp officer. A custom and Border Protection officer. Missed the shooter and hit his car. After that, the shooter called authorities and gave him his location. We heard from authorities yesterday about that moment. Take a listen. He also overheard chp scanner of a suspect who had called into chp to report that he was just involved in the shooting and his location, which was rancho bernardo. The officers exiting the freeway saw the suspects vehicle. The suspect pulled over with his hands up and was taken into custody by the police department. As the officer was placing this 19yearold male into custody, he clearly saw a rifle sitting on the front passenger seat of the suspect vehicle. The suspect, as i said, was taken into custody without incident. Reporter two things that authorities are going to be looking at. The first is the scene in the synagogue behind me. The second, the online profile of the gunman. There were some things that he posted online before the shooting. One of them, a manifesto. There was some indication, in fact, that the gunman was responsible for an arson attack on a mosque, about a month ago, nearby here, in just a neighboring town. So, authorities are looking into that, as well. Obviously, this is going to be key, as the investigation just gets under way, frances. Chilling to think what would have happened if that gun didnt jam. Cal perry for us. Joining us is clint van zandt, a former fbi agent and nbc contributor. We know that the fbi and atf are assisting into this case. Theyre looking into that open let, published under the same name as the shooter. How important will that letter be and the social media posts, in the investigation . Hes 19 years old. Youre a 19yearold, youre going to find posting things on social media. This guy is a copycat. Its a terrible thing because people have died. He copied the recent shootings in pennsylvania and new zealand. He copied the formats of the manifestos. This guy cant think for himself. He looks for other people to think for him on the internet. And just like islamic fundamentalist goes to the internet to get an inspiration sometimes. This guy is doing the same thing with hate crime. Two different types of individuals. But looking for the same reasons to hate other people, drawing that from the internet, giving inspiration, emotional support, from others on these same websites. And carrying out an act like this. But does he die . No. He wants to live because he sees himself getting out of jail and fighting again, continuing this battle thats going on in his mind. Thats whats so tough, when you hear that. This guy is a copycat. Whos out there saying theres somebody out there doing the same thing. How could this have been prevented . We see this time and time again. Thoughts and prayers. We say it over and over again. What needs to be done . It takes family, friends and those on the internet who pick this up, who pick this terrible fiery rhetoric up to call somebody. Weve said, for years, if you see something, Say Something. That goes with this, too. If you see a manifesto that hes posted and he was going to wear a gopro cam and tape it live. Weve seen killers do that, too. Youve got these people, in this case, young, no original thoughts. But thoughts hes copying, hes pasting on the internet. Its readable. All they have to do is pick up a telephone and pass it on. Somebody will talk to this guy and save him from himself, perhaps, and stop him before he kills. Is that enough . Is that something that is possible, that somebody will pick up the phone and see this open letter and see something that might be suspicious, go and call him. Will that be enough . It happens all the time. The fbi has a tip line. They get hundreds of thousands of tips a day. That tip line is not perfect. When information comes up, it gives a reason to start looking at somebody not spying on their lives. But is this person capable of the murderous rhetoric . Someone needs to intervene. Set this guy down and say, i read what you wrote on the intern internet. Do you mean that . And whats that ar15 rifle doing over in the corner . You touched about this how the suspect wants to live and get out there so he can fight his fight. According to the San Diego Police chief, he called 911, admitted he was involved, gave his location. What is our responsibility . The medias responsibility . What is everybodys responsibility than going see something Say Something here . We should not be broadcasting his name, unfortunately. We have a responsibility to pass that information on. We dont like to give up a guys name like this. We dont like to talk about his manifes manifesto. His manifesto off the internet before it was taken down. I read the whole thing. I understand what it is. Theres people who are grabbing that. And theyre reposting it different places. He made up his mind. The first time he was confronted, he gives up. He wanted his story to get out. This is not a suicidal bomber. This is a 19yearold who is conflicted in what hes doing. The rhetoric that burns inside of him, he wants to keep that fire going. The motive has not been confirmed. But the mayor told msnbc, that the shooting was a hate crime. Clint van zandt, as always, great to have you with me. Thank you. Thank you. More breaking news this hour. The d. O. J. Threatening that attorney general william barr will not show up to testify on thursday. A senior aide on thursday says its because of new conditions placed on the attorney general over his testimony. The committee wants to be able to go in executive session and ask about portions of the redacted Mueller Report. They want to have democratic and republican counsels permitted to ask questions for 30 minutes after all members have finished their fiveminute question period. Barr is scheduled to testify wednesday for Senate Judiciary and thursday before the house judiciary. A poll giving a fresh look at the democratic p iic president i nomination. Joe biden is on top. Bernie sanders with 11 . Pete buttigieg with 5 . President trump, rallying his base, wasting no time attacking the democratic frontrunners. Can you imagine sleepy joe . Crazy bernie. I think pocahontas is out. Barack obama with Nelson Mandelas widow. Sending what may have been a message to President Trump. Leaders who feed fear typically are ones who avoid facts. Hans nichols with more on the breaking news of william barr. Whats behind this glitch . We dont know. Weve heard from House Democrats on this. Just broke a few minutes ago. Well have to check with the department of justice and the white house. It could, frances, be an indication of how tightly republicans are going to litigate, especially the white house. Everything a democratically controlled congress is going to be asking for. Theyre in a fight over process here. This has to do with the house side. And it looks like william barr, the attorney general, doesnt want to testify in closed session, open session, go back and forth. It seems to be indicative of people on the side of d. O. J. And the white house to cooperate with all the investigations. As we have heard from President Trump, he feels he has been exonerated and vindicated. He doesnt seem interested in cooperating with congressional committees. And listen to how he talked about the general state of how he thinks he did in the rally at green bay last night. Its not me. Theres a Movement Like weve never seen in the history of our country. But the radical liberal democrats, put their hopes behind the collusion delusion, which has been exposed as a complete and total fraud, the greatest political hoax in american history. It really has been. So, this witch hunt was never really just about me. It was always about stopping you. So, some familiar rhetoric there from the president. Counterprogram to what was happening here, which was the white house correspondents dinner. President trump didnt mention it. No place he would rather be out of wisconsin. He did bring his press secretary on stage, Sara Sander Sarah san. She said it was a different environment. Thank you. I want to bring in julie manchester, reporter with the hill. And emily noh, thank you for joining me this early hour. As we get started, julia, are House Democrats demanding with new conditions for barr . I think House Democrats are definitely setting their standards for what they really want from this. I think this new Development Just shows continuing tensions in the growing rift between House Democrats and the Justice Department. I feel this is how its going to be going into the future. The Trump Administration is digging in their heels on this. The Mueller Report, now that its public, they would like to move on. House democrats would like to look into that redacted information and get more information from barr on that. The attorney general has become, if you will, a boogie man for House Democrats. Hes really the main target in all of this. We remember the rollout of the Mueller Report. In march, it was a brief fourpage summary. He got criticism for that, for that 400page report. There was that press conference a couple of weeks ago. And finally, the actual report. And theres a lot of conflicting messaging between what barr said in the press conference and characterized for what was in the report. This is another episode of continuing tensions between these both sides in this. When it comes to the process, fighting the process. Emily, describe what kind of battle you see here, thats getting set up. Is it worth it if he doesnt show up and no questions are answered . As julia pointed out, the white house is really digging in its heels. And democrats in congress holding their ground. We see the fight intensifying, the gap growing on both sides. The president has been saying he wants to avoid all subpoenas. We know in the past, president s democratic and republican have resisted congressional oversight. In the case of president obama, eric holder being held in contempt of court. And this is President Trump saying he will go against the efforts of the democraticallyrun house. Whether its worth it, if a. G. Barr doesnt show up, they want to see whats redacted in the report. They probably would have asked him is who saw the report outside of the department of justice and whether there were different redactions or fewer redactions. Hes set to appear before the Senate Committee on thursday. Can we see a different line of questions from the senate than the house . I think you could. The senate in general is less partisan than the house, just speaking in politics. I think democrats want to take a cue from House Democrats and going after attorney general barr on this. The democrats on the hill, there is a bit of tension on how they proceed on the investigations and questioning attorney general barr. I think democrats are cognizant of the fact there is an election coming up. The majority of the electorate shows that report isnt necessarily top priority. Very important for americans. And americans would like to see, and were seeing this in polling, as i said, they would like to see attentions being paid to health care, the economy, infrastructure. I think democrats are walking a fine line. You might see a toned down version of questioning. How are we going to sense that when it comes to the fine line, the dance that the democrats have to make, knowing when it comes to 2020 and looking ahead, constituents and people want to see some progress or policy when it comes to that tangible material. Were going to see grandstanding on both sides. I expect the House Democrats to ask a. G. Barr, if he shows up to testify, whether he was telling the truth. Whether he swears he was telling the truth. In the better he put forth and the News Conference of the report itself, how he could have said that the white house cooperated fully with jewelers investigation, if the report ultimately detailed how he wanted to fire the special counsel. How he sought to resist an interview with the special counsel. Theres several questions. All right. Emily ngo, and julia manchester, thank you for being with me this morning. Were going to talk more about that, the president versus congress, in a fight over southbou subpoenas. Will democrats overplay their hand . Hand every day, visionaries are creating the future. So, every day, we put our latest technology and unrivaled network to work. The United States Postal Service makes more ecommerce deliveries to homes than anyone else in the country. Because the future only happens with people who really know how to deliver it. Because the future only happens with people tech at safelite autoglass, we every chip will crack. This daughter was Home Visiting when mom saw a chip in her windshield. Mom honey is that a chip . Tech they wanted it fixed fast so they brought it to us. Mom hi. Tech with our inshop chip repair service, we can fix it the same day. Guaranteed. 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As the officer was placing the 19yearold male into custody, he saw a rifle sitting on the front passenger seat of the suspect vehicle. Police talking about a shooting at a synagogue in Southern California saturday. One person was killed during a service in poway outside of san diego. Four were wounded. The suspected gunman is in custody. And the towns mayor, calling the incident a hate crime. Joining me is andy levine. Appreciate you being with me, congressman, as we look at this the day after the shooting, it came at tend he end of passover six months after the shooting in pittsburgh. Talk about whats going through your mind. Well, frances, its great to be with you on this sunday morning. But its very sad. This country is plagued by an p epidemic of gun violence. And we have to reduce gun violence in this country. And we have a growing epidemic of White Supremacy. We need clear messages that White Supremacy is unacceptable. Bigotry against any religion or Minority Group is unacceptable in this country. And we wont stand for it. Do you want the words coming from the president . The from the president of the United States. Were in the first at right presidency in our history. And im sad were seeing the results of it. A tolerance, a lack of frontally facing White Supremacy and saying its unacceptable. Theres been room for it to spread. We have to stop it. You think that could have been at the rally in green bay, wisconsin, where the president was . Every time he speaks, every time he has, he has to disassociate himself from White Supremacy. He did condemn antisemitism and hate during that rally. Were going to turn to this week, and attorney general william barr set to testify before the Senate Committee on wednesday. But hes threatening not to testify in front of the House Committee on thursday. Are democrats demanding too much here . What do the democrats want to learn . No. You have to step back and look at the situation. After the Mueller Report, the president is in deep trouble. The report lays out how in ten different situations, he obstructed justice, tried to obstruct justice worse than he did. We need to hear from attorney general barr. We need to hear f

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