Transcripts For MSNBCW Weekends With Alex Witt 20140809 : co

Transcripts For MSNBCW Weekends With Alex Witt 20140809

Good morning, everyone. Welcome to week ends with with alex witt. Breaking news in iraq. This is new video of u. S. Military aircraft kraerg out a second airdrop of food and water for thousands of refugee trapped in modern iraq under the threat of hard line militants. Members of yazidi have been trapped four days and fear they will be slaughtered. Targeted air strikes against isis in the worst humanitarian crisis. Hundreds of women have been taken by isis militants saying some of them were being held in schools in the second largest city of mows us. Iraqs top religious leader is urging iraqis to be united against the isis threat. Meantime, this has become number one at the white house. Kristin welker, good start morning to you. What are you learning about how much deeper the u. S. Could get here . Reporter in terms of the timeline, they are reluctant to put a timeline on this operation. It could go at least for some weeks. Now, yesterday during the daily briefing, White House Press secretary josh earnest answered a number of questions about whether these limited air strikes could be expanded. He didnt rule it out. He said president obama would have to address the situation as it unfolds. If the initial limited air strikes didnt work there could be discussions about what to do next. They are insistent the president is not going to put boots on the ground and wants these air strikes to remain limited in scope. We are learning more how the president s decisionmaking process came together. I am told by a Senior Administration official this the past wednesday after the africa summit, general martin dempsey, told president obama after that summit that the situation in iraq, the crisis had reached a critical juncture. They were making significant gains on irbil, that that situation was growing worse. There was a Senior Leader meeting wednesday. And the situation room picture, president Obama Meeting with his entire National Security team on thursday. I was told broad agreement that something needed to be done. The question is what specifically needed to be done . One of the risks and concerns that was raised were the fact that these f18 fighter jets that have been dropping the these 500 pound bombs fly low, a alex. But they fly quickly. There was concern about putting u. S. Military personnel in harms way. Ultimately the decision was made to move forward with president obama insisting they be limited in scope. As you said, there is no end to the possibility of having them again to help with this crisis. Absolutely. Thank you so much for that, kristen. Reporter thanks, alex. More from steven clemens. Its great to see you as always. Is there a clear strategic goal for the u. S. In this effort . If there is, what is it. There is a clear tactical goal which is to save the people on the mountain and to prevent a horrible act of genocide and to protect our people and interests in erbil and to do something that the white house has emphasized over and over, to bring together the Iraq Security forces and the peshmerga. These are all tactical moves not strategic. Strategic is changing the map of those sitting around the stakeholders in this and trying to get a very different deal, to roll it back and to get some different equilibrium in this mess. So i think it is important to differentiate and step back and say if Something Else doesnt happen, what we are seeing is this will happen over and over and over again in other plates. Okay. Looking at the new york sometimes the today, quoting a senior white house official who said we didnt want another benghazi. How much do you think libya has played in the president s decisionmaking in iraq . In two ways. One, i think the president and secretary of state and check hagel are worried about u. S. Forces everywhere in the world now and are on alert, as they always have been. When they saw how fast when we were on the call the other take and senior officials were talking about the speed and proficiency of isis, how it threw them off guard, that was a very surprising move. And i think secondly, the other piece of it is they want to make sure whatever we do do remains limited in scope. That is important to remember about libya. They were limited in scope. You talk about the speed and proficiency of isis. There are reports they have taken the over iraqis largest hydroelectric dam. Thats scary. The New York Times had a line when they reported the other day, they could unleash a 65foot wall of water that goes streaming over major parts of iraq. This is a huge dam. It is hugely strategically significant. And i am hopeful that the white houses confident in sewing together the peshmerga with iraqi Security Forces and our intelligent, which the white house keeps saying is reaching a level of proficiency and capacity thats almost historic in the region, that they will be able to restore order and basically make sure the strategic assets arent destroyed. If that were to be blown up, its hard to even imagine how horrible that would be. Steven, is one of the factors the fact that some of the isis fighters could turn the up and make a viable attempt at an act of terror here . I think we always have to worry now that as this continues to grow, and as we have seen so many americans, as well as europeans go over and sign up for fighting in syria to find out, to get in the mix, we have to become much more vigilant i think about regrettably, because i have been on a different side of this in terms of watching americans. But we have a lot of americans now who are part of the enemy, if you will. Well have to watch and see what they do and make sure they dont come back and try to unleash the kind of terrorism they have the done in the middle east and this country. I do think its a concern. The Senate Select Committee Dianne feinstein and others have been raising this as a higher point of concern. Is there any sense they could establish a larger state . Is that their stated desire . Would that not be the ultimate breeding ground for terrorists . If they established a state. One of the interesting questions that remains resolved, it is a large swath of territory they have now. It runs right across borders. The question is if everyone in the neighborhood is against them, then i dont see that isis will be able to survive long. The question is, are there implicit supporters in the region of what isis is doing . We have been talking a lot about the maliki government and transitioning in baghdad. Thats almost an afterthought. That would have been interesting a month ago. But today, even if you got a change in deposit, they have succeeded so dramatically the question is what are we going to do to bring the turks, the suedies, iranians into a conversation about what broader regional dynamics we want to have in play. If we dont do that, if we dont get the sunni and shia leadership to be talking to each other, it will go on and on. Then you run the risk that essentially you have countries in the region giving support. That then becomes a really nasty problem that could breed terrorism and could be very interruptive in the middle east for a generation. Wow. Sit tight we will have you back at the bottom of the hour. Thanks so much. From there to the weather, everyone. Hurricane iselle was downgraded to a Tropical Storm yesterday. No major injuries were reported. Residents keeping their fingers crossed as hurricane julio is expected to pass north of the island chain tomorrow morning. Good morning, general et. Good morning, alex. How are you . Im well and i hope you are too. What happened there . How likely is that julio will miss the islands. Once it made landfall on the big island of hawaii, we are looking at a mountainous terrain on the big island. Once the system made landfall, it pretty much tore the system apart. It made landfall as a Tropical Storm, it still did pack quite a punch with locally heavy rainfall and strong damaging winds. It is moving away. It is a most tropical system. Most of whats left is over the southwestern part of the hawaiian islands. We are closely watch hurricane hurricane. It is pushing off to the westnorthwest at 16 miles per hour. Still a category 2 hurricane, packing maximum sustained winds of 100 miles per hour. Computer models now have the system tracking farther north. As you can see, it looks like it should stay away from the hawaiian islands. We have to watch closely. The forecast track could still change within the next 24 to 48 hours. If it does take this track, it looks like the big island will be spared. However, by sunday, into monday, smaller islands could see Tropical Storm conditions. Along the u. S. Mainland, it is a nice start to the weekend, especially in the northeast. High pressure in control. D. C. Looking at a good deal of sunshine. New york city, lots of sunshine. Highs in the middle 80s. Kansas city looking at dry weather. In denver, billings, including atlanta. Its a homicide. That is what was ruled for james brady. Brady died monday a lot age 73. Charges in this case could prove tough. There are no statute of limitations charges. They are a long way of making any decisions on that front sounding the alarm. Why the Biggest Health organization is calling ebaoe b billion la outbreak an emergency. Did a threeday truce accomplish anything . Of virtually all your important legal matters in just minutes. 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There have only been two drops in three days. Theres no way they can keep up with the crisis. The problem is that the isis rebels are still gathered at the base of the mountain. So the refugees have the choice of either starving to death or going down the mountain and face almost immediate execution. The president , in his speech to the nation the other night, talked about u. S. Targeted air strikes to support Iraqi Military efforts to break that siege by driving the isis rebels a away from that mountain. The problem is there are no iraqi u. S. Military in that region capable of doing that. So at some point, if people start dying in massive numbers, its quite possible that the president may have to up the ante and order air strikes without backing up the iraqi forces. In terms of military hardware that isis has, do they have the the capability of bringing down a u. S. Plane . They do. They do have antiaircraft weapons they of course sieged when they swept through iraq. The sunni members of the Iraqi Military threw down their weapons in sympathy because of course theyre not getting any support from baghdad. But they do have some low level rudimentary antiaircraft weapons. For now, however, the u. S. Is confident they have enough countermeasures in place they dont have to worry about. Particularly for the warplanes that can fly well out of range that the rebels may possess. Theoretically, that strike that the u. S. Did take yesterday, they went after that is that what they were going after, that aircraft, that military the their ability to take down an aircraft. Is that what they were taking out . No. Actually, the rebels would not transport their antiaircraft weapons because peshmerga doesnt have aircraft. They have it in areas to protect their headquarters, their commanders. What they struck yesterday with the air strikes was an artillery piece that were told was firing randomly toward irbil. One mortar position also firing. And then a convoy that had weapons and supplies and a number of those isis rebels. So thats pretty much what theyre going after. Isis is primarily a ground force with lots of advanced weaponry for ground warfare that they were able to gap when they swept in. You can talk to me on twitter. I will be reading some of your tweets throughout the day. Now to the mideast after gaza is resumed rocket attacks on israel. Egypt is leading an effort to build a longterm ceasefire. A new eruption could put those in vend. Bill neely is joining us with the very latest. Hi, bill. Good morning, alex. Above me, an israeli warplane is circling and firing off flares. Drones in the sky. We are in a rather depressing situation. A second day of fighting since the truce ended. A conflict is entering its second month. People on both side of the gaza worlder are now asking when and how on earth this conflict is going to end. The sound of war across gaza once again. Israeli air strikes by day. More than 30 overnight. Five palestinians reported dead. Three of them buried in the rubble of one of several mosques hit. Israel says it is striking hamas positions. A command post, a weapons store. But civilians are also dying once again. A 10yearold boy the first casualty, mourned by his inconsolable father. Across the gaza border in israel, two civilians and one soldier were injured by rocketsment but the return of the war, the sirens and the terror is wearing people down. The first town hit by renewed rocket fire. Nobody wins in a war. Everybody is getting hurt and getting damaged. Its loselose situation. Reporter the renewed fighting forced thousands back to u. N. Shelters in gaza. This school held 600 refugees. Today, nearly 3,000. Some of the children who should be in school are recovering in hospitals from terrible injuries. The same tragedy, he says, keeps repeating itself again and again. There is little sign of peace in the new rubble. What about the future . No future is in gaza. No future. Never it never can stop. Egypt holding peace talks, pulling for a new ceasefire. But israel wont talk while the rockets fly. And missiles being fired by both sides here. Alex, that warplane is still flying directly above us. About 200 yards in that direction there was a double israeli missile strike. One bomb, followed by a much smaller explosion. Empty police headquarters. If there are signs of hope, it is maybe the pace of the attacks in the last 24 hours is now slowing and that cairo peace talks are not being declared dead just yet. Back to you, alex. Okay. Great reporting from gaza. Thanks so much. Why your credit score may get a boost without you lifting a finger. [ male announcer ] if you had a dollar for every dollar Car Insurance Companies Say theyll save you by switching, youd have, like, a ton of dollars. But how are they saving you those dollars . A lot of Companies Might answer um or no comment. Then theres esurance. 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