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Republicans in congress who support his economic rescue plan. Plus, new developments in the trump impeachment trial, as Mitch Mcconnell seeks a delay. The question this morning, has the former president finally found a lawyer whos willing to defend him . And capitol security. With democrats concerned their colleagues on the other side of the aisle may try to hurt them, the question, did a republican congressman try to bring a gun onto the house floor . Its way too early for this. Good morning and welcome to way too early, the show that is perfectly fine with leaving weapons out of politics. I am kasie hunt on this friday, january 22nd. Well start with the news. President biden laid out a comprehensive strategy against coronavirus yesterday and called on congress to get behind the rescue plan that he intends to unveil soon, predicting the u. S. Death toll will likely reach 500,000 by next month. The president framed his plan as a wartime effort that demands a wartime strategy. Our National Plan launches a fullscale wartime effort to address the supply shortages by ramping up production and protective equipment, syringes, needles, you name it. And when i say wartime, people kind of look at me, like wartime . Well, as i said last night, 400,000 americans have died. Thats more than died in all of world war ii. 400,000. This is a wartime undertaking. Today im signing an executive action to use the defense production act and all other available authorities to direct all federal agencies and private industry to accelerate the making of everything it needs to protect, test, vaccinate, and take care of our people. I know these bold, practical steps will not come cheaply, but failing to do so will cost us so much more dearly. I look forward to working with members of both parties in the congress. Were in a national emergency, and its time we treat it like one. Together, with a National Plan, as the United States of america. As i said yesterday in my inaugural address, there are moments in history when more is asked of a particular generation, more is asked of us as americans than other times. We are in that moment now. Historys going to measure whether were up to the task. I believe we are. Certainly a change in tone as we all struggle still to contain this pandemic. And of course, the push to ramp up coronavirus vaccinations is hitting a roadblock as cities and states across the country report vaccine shortages. Some city leaders say theyre running out of doses within a few days of getting their weekly allocation, and it means tens of thousands of americans who have been able to make an appointment for the first dose have later seen that appointment canceled. In new york city, First Responder agencies are suspending new vaccinations because of supply concerns. Both the nypd and Fire Department have stopped giving first doses in an effort to ensure there are enough to cover second doses for those who have already had their first shot. Nbcs Gabe Gutierrez spoke with mayor bill de blasio. How frustrating has this process been . Gabe, its painful is the word i want to use, frustrating and painful. How soon before new york city runs out of vaccine . This week. Reporter mayor bill de blasio says at least 23,000 appointments have been rescheduled. The vaccine supply in america should have increased every single week. And we found that we hit a wall quickly. And right now, at least a dozen states are now reporting vaccine supply shortages. In ohio, republican government mike dewine wrote to the Biden Administration, pleading for more vaccines as the state struggles with high hospitalizations. And in california, Los Angeles County Officials Say they have most of the resources, like large Vaccine Centers and enough personnel to run them, but they just dont have the doses that they need. And in florida, the states surgeon general, citing a scarce supply, has issued a new directive, limiting vaccines to permanent and seasonal residents to cut down on socalled vaccine tourism. Yikes. And now back to politics. House and Senate Leaders have yet to agree on when to begin the impeachment trial the second impeachment trial of donald trump. Senate minority leader Mitch Mcconnell yesterday proposed that the trial begin in midfebruary. A spokesman for majority leader Chuck Schumer tells nbc news he is reviewing the proposal and plans to discuss it with mcconnell. Meanwhile, House Speaker nancy pelosi was asked about the timing for the trial and how the evidence compares with what we saw with the first impeachment. I do see a big difference between something that we all witnessed versus what information you might need to substantiate an article of impeachment based on, large part, on a call that the president made and described as perfect. It was perfectly unconstitutional. This is different. But again, its up to them to decide how we go forward, when we go forward. It will be soon. I dont think it will be long, but we must do it. Meanwhile, the former president has hired South Carolina Attorney Butch Bowers to defend him in the Upcoming Senate trial. According to a tweet from trump adviser jason miller. Joining us now, congressional reporter for politico, andrew desiderio. Andrew, good morning thank you so much for getting up early with us. Good morning. Lets talk through exactly what this means for the impeachment trial. It sounds like, based on my reporting, they want to give the president s defense team a couple of weeks here. Thats the logistical piece, but there are plenty of political calculations at play as well. Whats your understanding of where mcconnell, schumer, and the president s team stand and what they want to see happen in the next few weeks . Of course, well, you know, the longer we wait to hold this trial, the more the raw emotions of what happened on january 6th will tamp down a little bit. And democrats know that. At the same time, those same democrats really do want to focus on President Bidens impeachment or excuse me, President Bidens cabinet nominations, as well as his very ambitious legislative agenda, for example, on Coronavirus Relief that you heard him talk about so much earlier. Theres only so much he can do Via Executive actions. He does need congress. And democrats really do want to focus on that first and foremost at the beginning of joe bidens presidency here, rather than focusing on an elongated trial into the former president. Now, republicans, on the other hand, i think first and foremost, are making this argument here that an impeachment trial of a former president is unconstitutional. Now, that is a disputed legal claim. Federal courts have consistently deferred to congress to set its own rules and procedures for things like impeachment trials, because as the constitution states, the senate has the, quote, sole power to try all impeachments. But that is sort of the procedural argument that republicans are getting behind at this point. And giving them a twohour delay to start this trial allows them to strategize better and come up with how they want to handle this and how, specifically, Mitch Mcconnell guides his conference through what is going to be a very tricky period. Theres a lot of crosswinds going on here. I mean, andrew, in terms of how joe biden everyone saw this morning, we started off with him talking about how he wants to work with members in both parties to do this big Coronavirus Relief deal. And weve talked a lot about how biden, himself, is a man of the senate. He has a relationship with Mitch Mcconnell, has a relationship with Chuck Schumer, and may be able to get things done, but were stuck right now. The senate still hasnt figured out how its going to govern itself in a 5050 split. Schumer and mcconnell are still fighting over that very basic thing, to the point that they havent even been able to assign these new committee chairmen. I mean, it looks pretty ridiculous. It seems to me that its a sign that the divisions and that relationship between schumer and mcconnell is still in a pretty tough place, and that could really make it a lot harder for biden to get some of these promises, this commitment to do big, bipartisan things, to actually follow through on it. Exactly right. And you know, whats interesting is that even though democrats control the senate right now, republicans still control all of the committees, because they have yet to organize the committees, and you know, handle the committee assignments, particularly for the new senators, so theres still a majority of republicans on every committee right now, which is really starting to stall the cabinet confirmation process. You know, its really difficult to sort this all out when democrats are controlling what happens on the floor but republicans are controlling what happens in committee and allowing for these objections by members for example, senator josh hawley is objecting to swift consideration of alejandro mayorkas, the nominee to lead the department of homeland security. Thats really something that cant be worked out until you get an organizing resolution to effectively set up the senate. Now, on bidens covid19 relief plan, you know, thats a nonstarter for senate republicans. They told us yesterday that, look, this cannot get 60 votes in the senate. Now, democrats could deploy these partisan procedural tactics known as budget reconciliation in order to pass a covid19 relief plan with just a simple majority. That would be 51 votes. But even some republican moderates, like susan collins, for example, are saying that, you know, they dont necessarily see a need at this point for another covid19 relief plan. So, you know, well have to see what happens on that front. Yeah. Bottom line, big picture here, there are a lot of toxic divisions that still exist. And even though we are turning the page, those divisions are going to be tough to overcome as we get further and further into this here. Politicos andrew desiderio, thank you very much for being up with us this morning. We really appreciate it. And still ahead here, President Biden has a long todo list for his first 100 days in office. Were going to take a look at some of the executive actions hes planning to roll out today targeting the economy. Plus, whats ahead for the olympics . Japan is denying reports of a cancellation amid coronavirus concerns. Well have those stories and a check on your weather when we come right back. Check on your weather when we come right back. Age is just a number. And mines unlisted. Try boost® high protein. With 20 grams of protein for Muscle Health versus only 16 grams in ensure® high protein. And now enjoy boost® high protein in cafe mocha flavor. Shingles . Dios mio. So much pain. Maria had to do everything for me. She had these awful blisters on her back. I dont want shingles when im your age. Actually, if youre 50 or older, youre at increased risk thats life, nothing you can do. Uh, shingles can be prevented. Shingles can be whaaaat . Prevented. You can get vaccinated. Where . At your pharmacy, your doctors hold on dont want to go through that 50 years or older . 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Perhaps not quite as intense hopefully not the new york jets also introduced new head coach robert salah, who brings with him the mantra of all gas, no brake. I like putting it that way a little bit better. And the eagles will reportedly bring on Indianapolis Colts offensive coordinator Nick Sirianni as philadelphias new head coach. Okay on that cheerful note in an nfl hire of historic proportion, the Washington Football Team will reportedly promote Jennifer King to fulltime offensive assistant, making her the leagues first ever fulltime black female coach. It comes about a year after king was brought on by washington coach ron rivera as an intern. She had previously served as an intern under rivera on the Carolina Panthers for four months ahead of the 2017 season. Congrats to her. And lets turn now to the nba, where the Los Angeles Lakers defeated the Milwaukee Bucks last night behind a seasonhigh 34 points scored by lebron james. The 113106 win puts the lakers at the top of the nba standings with a 124 record. And after a second Straight Loss for milwaukee third in the eastern conference at 96 they wont play until sunday, hosting the atlanta hawks. Tonights matchup against the Washington Wizards was postponed for coronavirus concerns. And there are new questions about this summers Tokyo Olympics. It was, of course, already postponed for a year, but the city is now entering a state of emergency after a new spike in cases of the coronavirus. Japan has doubled down on its commitment to host the games this year and theyve denied rumors of any possible cancellation. A japanese government spokesman tells reuters there was no truth to a report in the times uk that the government privately concluded the Tokyo Olympics would have to be canceled because of the pandemic. Meanwhile, the president of the International Olympic committee reaffirmed during an interview with kyodo news yesterday his commitment to holding the event this year, saying, there is no plan b for the tokyo games. Heres hoping we can get it together in time for that. Time now for the weather. Lets go to meteorologist bill karins for a check on the weekend forecast. Bill, good morning happy friday. Yeah, it is a great friday, kasie. And the weekend should be nice for many people, but we are going to see some problems. So, lets get into it. All right some rain this morning. Grab the umbrella in the deep south, southern alabama, mississippi and georgia. Then the forecast for the rest of the idea, your eyes really go to minneapolis and chicago. One of the coldest winter days yet. Temperatures there are going to be in the teens for highs. Windchills will be in the single digits. So thats the cold shot thats going to come this weekend into the northeast. Saturday will be a cold, blustery day. If you have outdoor plans or ski plans, it will be one of the coldest skiing days in new england this winter. Then look at that snowstorm in the west on saturday, through the rockies, the snow moving through the plains. Then on sunday, that snow will be in areas like chicago, detroit, arriving in cleveland late in the day. So, that will be an interesting storm to watch, especially, kasie, because weve got a Football Game being played in green bay. Right now it just looks like a chance of light snow, but it will be cold. Pretty classic images of it snowing on lambeau field. Well keep our eyes out. Bill karins, thank you, as always, my friend. Have a great weekend. Still ahead here, only one of President Bidens cabinet nominees has been confirmed so far, but the senate did move forward with a couple nominations yesterday. Thats coming up next. Well be back in just a moment e. Thats coming up next. Well be back in just a moment. 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Get e trade and start trading today. Welcome back. President bidens pick for defense secretary lloyd austin is on way to confirmation after legislation was passed to confirm his appointment. It will be bidens first measure signed into law and exempts general austin from the sevenyear rule that protects civilian leadership of the military. The senate and the house both passed the measure easily, and senator john cornyn confirmed the confirmation vote would occur today. General austin will be the first black u. S. Secretary of defense. Meanwhile, President Bidens pick for transportation secretary, pete buttigieg, sailed through his Senate Confirmation hearing yesterday, appearing to gain bipartisan support. A vote on his confirmation is expected next week. Meanwhile, the u. S. Capitol police say theyre investigating a report that republican congressman andy harris tried to bring a gun onto the house floor. During a vote yesterday, Police Stopped harris at security. A security official present tells nbc news he saw the firearm on harris and told his superiors. New metal detectors were ordered by House Speaker nancy pelosi after the deadly riot at the capitol, and theyve become a flashpoint among some republican members and have at times created tension with police. The capitol official added that house members are allowed to carry firearms in the halls and on capitol grounds, including the capitol building, but not on the floor, adding that ammo has to be separately compartmentalized. Harris office did not immediately respond to a request for comment. Thats where we are, folks. All right, still ahead here, in the wake of the capitol riot, democrats have filed an ethics complaint against republican senators josh hawley and ted cruz. Were going to take a look at how theyre both responding to that move. But, before we go to break, we want to know, why are you awake with us on this friday morning . Email us your reasons to waytooearly msnbc. 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Than getting to the bottom of how china released this virus to the world in the first place. In fact, just this week, a Panel Established by the w. H. O. , itself, said the organization failed to act quickly at the start of the pandemic. Instead of demanding leadership change and reforms, unfortunately, its the wrong signal that the Biden Administration is rewarding failure. These are the wrong priorities at the wrong time. Senate republicans also openly chastised the president S Immigration outlook with senator marco rubio calling a path to citizenship for undocumented immigrants a nonstarter. That is, of course, a switch for him from the last time this issue was presented. Meanwhile, a group of Senate Democrats filed an ethics complaint calling for a probe into republican senators josh hawley and ted cruz. Theyre asking for the Ethics Committee to investigate how the senators objections to the Electoral College votes may have contributed to inciting the violent capitol riot. Yesterday, hawley released a statement that called the complaint, quote, a flagrant abuse of the Senate Ethics process and a flagrant attempt to exact partisan revenge. And a spokesperson for cruz accused the democrats of, quote, playing political games by filing frivolous ethics complaints. Hawley and cruz both voted to reject electoral votes, even after the violence at the capitol disrupted the counting process. They have denied any wrongdoing and maintain that they were trying to protect the integrity of the election. Not what actually happened. And republican congresswoman liz cheney was the most prominent voice in the house to vote for trumps second impeachment. Now the former president s allies in the house are trying to punish her politically. On wednesday, wyoming state senator Anthony Bouchard announced he planned a primary challenge against cheney in the Midterm Election cycle. And politico reports a majority of House Republicans would support a secret ballot to remove cheney from her leadership role, according to sources involved in the effort. Despite her vote for impeachment, House Minority leader Kevin Mccarthy made it clear that cheney should retain her role as gop conference chair. Liz cheney to remain as conference chair or no . Yes. So, there you go. Joining us now, republican strategist and msnbc contributor susan del percio. Susan, lets start right there with liz cheney and what that broader fight means here. Support from Kevin Mccarthy for her will matter. There is backlash inside the House Republican conference, but she also was one of the few to stand up and say, its really important that we do this, that we send a signal that it is not, in fact, acceptable to encourage the kind of behavior that we saw on january 6th, that ultimately resulted in the death of a u. S. Capitol Police Officer and many injuries to others. What is her future in the Republican Party . Whats the future for anyone who is rejecting President Trump on his way out here . Well, specifically for liz cheney, i think her future is still strong. Its still looking forward, because, frankly, Kevin Mccarthy, the minority leader, needs her in order to raise any hopes of raising any money whatsoever. She is one of ten republicans that did the principled thing, and they knew that voting for impeachment was the right thing. There are you know, you talk about a secret ballot there are a lot of republicans who knew what the right thing was and didnt do it. So, i think that theres a lot of people who have a great deal of respect to liz cheney. And i think when it comes to the idea of having a primary, she says, bring it on, because why not . If she cant get reelected doing whats right, whats the point . And you heard from nine other republicans who basically said the same thing. Its too important. And Kevin Mccarthys in a very difficult situation. You know, the republican side as we know, its fractured, but that qanon side is getting crazier by the day. People fighting to have weapons on the floor is absurd. So, he can either go with the looney tunes or he can try and actually get some things done and deliver for his constituents and the constituents of his party members. I mean, and hes clearly he seems to have already flipflopped on saying, you know, when he made that speech on the floor, when they were impeaching him, he said, the president bears responsibility. And then at that press conference yesterday, he seemed to say the complete opposite of that. So, its pretty confusing. Susan, lets talk for a second about the senate trial. We all know privately there are plenty of republicans who would prefer to tell donald trump to never, ever come back to washington and bar him from running for office again, but the problem is, they would have to sacrifice themselves and vote to do that when this trial actually unfolds. Do you think there are enough . I mean, our reporting is that its looking increasingly unlikely. And as they drag this timeline out, it becomes harder and harder to find that magic number of 17 votes. Where do you think they land on this in the end . I think its going to be very hard to find the 17. At first, i didnt think so. If you would have asked me about a week ago. But it is getting drawn out. Republicans are concerned about, of course, their primaries. They have made a bet that all they can do is attack President Biden, and they will use they will keep using that platform of attacking versus doing the right thing. I think it will be very difficult. It doesnt mean that impeachment shouldnt happen i mean, the trial shouldnt happen. Its very important to get all of these people, all of these republicans on the record, because their vote will come back to haunt them, if they vote against convicting the president. And so, it is for hope of the Republican Party going forward, it may be in eight years, still needs to have some people of conviction, and those who do not have it should be held accountable. I mean, he endangered all of their lives, and yet, here we may be with this vote. Susan del percio, thank you, as always. Love having you here on way too early. And still ahead, its the meme that keeps on giving. Were going to show you some more of what the internet has done with senator Bernie Sanders appearance and his mittens at the inauguration. Thats next in the cooler. Dont go anywhere. Way too earlys back in just a moment. Just a moment at tmobile, we have a plan built just for customers 55 and up. 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Ive asked him about some of these things before, actually, in person. He doesnt always laugh at them. So, seth meyers figured something out. We have all seen these memes. And because its friday, we wanted to show you a couple more. Here is bernie added to the pattern of former first lady melania trumps dress. Oh, boy. A new twist on the film weekend at bernies, and baby yoda, seen here taking some fashion advice from the senator. Thats adorable. Many people are also discussing his giant envelope and his Inauguration Day todo list. The senator had this to say about it last night. I dont want to waste all the time talking about memes, but the other question, of course, is people were asking what you were carrying. What was your manila envelope id love to tell you, seth. Its top secret. You know what, i appreciate it. I appreciate your honesty. So, there you go. Trademark Bernie Sanders. All right, lets now go to yesterday at Pete Buttigiegs confirmation hearing. Senator Amy Klobuchar was passed a helpful note from one of her aides. Watch. Actually, on a bipartisan basis, ive been leading that recreational trails program funding, and thank you for the note about my hair sticking straight up, doug. Thank you. That was really nice and subtle. Note to producers everywhere, aplus move by doug. We always want to know if our hair is out of place. Still ahead here, were going to speak to congresswoman Debbie Dingell of michigan about the challenges faced by congress and the country under the new administration. Dont go anywhere. Way too early coming right back. Ely coming right back it beautiful. State of the Art Technology makes it brilliant. The visionary lexus nx, lease the 2021 nx 300 for 359 a month for 36 months. Experience amazing at your lexus dealer. Im a performer. Lease the 2021 nx 300 for 359 a month for 36 months. Always have been. And always will be. Never letting anything get in my way. 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The New York Times reports the nations vaccine supply in the first three months of the year is expected to substantially exceed whats needed to meet the administrations goal. Heres how biden responded yesterday when he was asked if his goal was ambitious enough. When i announced it, you all said its not possible. Come on. Give me a break, man. The president , meanwhile, is expected to take action today aimed at providing economic relief, and that includes more Food Assistance for those in need, delivering direct payments more efficiently to those who havent received them, and providing Unemployment Insurance to workers who refuse employment that would jeopardize their health. The administration stresses that this action is not a substitute for the type of comprehensive legislation that the president plans to unveil soon. And joining us now, democratic congresswoman Debbie Dingell of michigan. Congresswoman, good morning its great to have you back on the show. And this is, of course, the first time weve had a chance to chat in the new Biden Administration, just two days old at this point. Id like to get your take on how things are unfolding so far, because the reality is, we still are grappling with a lot of the divisions that we were facing before. Congressman andy harris reportedly trying to carry a gun onto the house floor yesterday and republicans already saying that they dont want to get on board with President Bidens Coronavirus Relief plan. Where do we go from here . So, weve got to look at the glass as half full and half empty. We had a day yesterday that there werent a lot of public insults of each other. There were some differences of opinion. You could feel the Blood Pressure of republicans and democrats lower, even though you were in a capitol that i still find it very disconcerting, though i want to thank every man and woman who has been there defending us, keeping that capitol safe for the last few days. But theres Just National guard everywhere. And i hope were treating them right. Their sleeping arrangements desperately need something. But i do think that there is a conviction and a need that weve got to Work Together and were going to have to find some ways to compromise. I, myself, ended up, i have concerns about the first vote that i had to make. I think it was very important that democrats be united and that we support joe biden on his nomination for the pentagon secretary, secretary of defense, but im also worried after just seeing the president , who very much wanted to take over the military and use it for a potential coup, what we were doing. Many of us and i mean many of us you would have been stunned at the thoughtfulness of republicans and democrats who talked about it, talked it through, talked about it with each other, how do we make sure people dont see this as a precedent, since its been done twice in a row . And both are very, very good people. I talk to people that know them. We gave him the first vote. What i saw in the first day alone was the thoughtfulness. What do we do . Whats the right thing to do . And when we moved into covid im not going to give names, but you know, as i started to go over the vote yesterday, one of the republican women that never wears a mask had a mask and made a point of saying, hey, how are you . So, you know, life doesnt you dont snap things overnight, but even if we can talk more, exchange ideas, try to figure it out, its a new day. Heres hoping we can hang on to that spirit here, because, certainly, people who are all out there struggling with covid desperately, desperately need this all to work. Lets talk a little bit, though, about the impeachment trial, which is on the horizon here. The House Speaker, nancy pelosi, still hasnt sent that article over to the senate because theyre still negotiating on the timing. Can you take us behind the scenes a little bit here . It sounds like mcconnell wants to delay it for a couple of weeks. Do you think that democrats will be open to doing that . What are the political calculations that each side are grappling with right now . Well, im going to tell you, i think that there are very few players here. I think were all talking about the going to happen, our opinions or perhaps when do you think that it could go, but a lot of new things happen each day. Senator mcconnell did not make his feelings known until yesterday that he wanted President Trump to have time to prepare for his trial. What does that do to the case . People are concerned do people forget about what happened . Im one of those people that if you were in the capitol and you are talking to i dont care if youre a republican or a democrat, you were staff, you were a policeman. The policeman you have no idea what that day did to them. Some of them really thought they were going to die, but also took the moral responsibility of defending us. Thats not leaving anyones memories. The witnesses to what this impeachment is about live up there every single day and are fearful of what could happen. And every single day we get more videotape, the fbi finds out more information, there is more data. I am someone that initially said we need to get this done, and i do think everybody thinks we need to get this done. They cant drag out for months. I think he needs to be held accountable for what was one of the worst attacks on our government in the history of this country, where people that were encouraged, came to the capitol wanting to destroy our nations, really, one of the most visible symbols of our nations democracy. They wanted to harm our national security. They wanted to stop an electoral certification process, and they wanted to kill members of congress. Now, you tell me, do you not hold that accountable . But i also want to get on with joe bidens agenda, because as you just said, there are a whole lot of people that are hurting and scared, and its getting worse. So, we ought to do both. And you know what, weve got a group of men and women, republicans and democrats, that can do both. All right. Congresswoman Debbie Dingell, thank you very much. Congresswoman Debbie Dingell, thank you very much. Earlier in the show, we asked, why are you awake . One of our viewers in new jersey tweeted im up early because my diet coke button got stuck and i drank 12 of them. Whoopsies neil tweets, i am up way too early trying to get my mom signed up for the vaccine here in florida. Good luck to you. I know its been tough down there. Barbara emails, im up way too early trying to get my hair the color of jen psaki. Yeah redheads i love jens hair color, too. And beth emailed i have a huge pitch today for a new business and nerves woke me up super early. Good luck. Im sure youre going to rock your pitch, beth. And i goot this note, too, from bobbie, who says its not too early here in moscow, russia, listening to your live stream. Im not sure weve ever had anybody say hello from moscow, so thanks for watching. Next up, well look at the axios 1 big thing. And on morning joe, after the u. S. Recorded its deadliest day of the pandemic so far, the country appears to be running out of the vaccine. Well look at where things stand and how president joe bidens strategy shapes up to the task when former fda commissioner dr. Scott gottlieb joins the conversation. Dont go anywhere. Morning joe moments away. Tion dont go anywhere. Orning joe moments away to make for yourself in gaming . Then make a name for yourself. Even if your office, and bank balance are. Far from glamorous. That means expensing nothing but pizza. Your expenses look good, and your books are set for the month . Going up against this guy. And pitching your idea 100 times. No, no, no no. 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White house officials think there is another 15 they can bump up for families really struggling. On the labor side, they want to make it very clear workers dont have to go back to work if they feel like their health is in danger. They shouldnt be denied Unemployment Insurance. These are almost technical, but tonally they are setting what the Biden Administration wants to signal. That is they are committed to providing relief to americans, and they will take every avenue they probably can to get to that destination. Kasie . Hans, we have seen governing this way after it was hard for obama found out hard to work with congress. Arent there limitations here . While on the one hand they can say and they can underscore priorities with these orders, they cant go as far as actually making law. I think thats a very fair point. Its a point they internalize and understand from inside the Biden Administration. They saw limitations during obama. There are two main limitations. One, the next administration can undo it on their day one. There is no way the changes will be durable, lasting. You need to get the senate and the house along. In some cases you need 60 votes. It is more substantial when you have two branches of government and agree on something, this is the United States policy. This is what were glowing to do for nutritional assistance. Officials will acknowledge this. It inflates that might be the wrong word. Some of the decisions you make by executive action get reviewed by the court. That pumps up a lot more testosterone into the fights over the Supreme Court because they become much more contentious. The signaling value is good. You just played the video there of the president using his pens. Thats the image that the white house wants. They want to show action in the first few days. They also, and i really want to underscore this, they want to get stuff done. Every day theyre losing has an exponential effect down the line, both on the health front and the economic front. If you dont inject money now, you will have derivative impacts down the line that wont be so pleasant. Quickly, whats the message they are sending in terms of bidens bipartisan message . Some of these seem to be more aimed at liberal constituency groups . His opening bids are progressive. Everything joe biden is doing is pretty much to the left. One of the things you havent heard, much complaining from progress ifs. Kasie . All right. Hans nichols, thank you so much for being up early with us, as always, my friend. We really appreciate it. As we are heading into the first week of the Biden Administration, i think its time to take a deep breath and enjoy a saturday here for all of you. Thank you so much for getting up way too early with us on this friday morning. Dont go anywhere. Morning joe starts right now. I would like dr. Fauci, if you dont mind, to followup on what the president is saying. Should americans have hope in this drug right now. There isnt that much of a difference in many respects with what were seeing. The president feels optimistic about it. It probably will be safe. It is a question of not a lot of difference. Its the hope that it will work versus proving it will work. I dont see a big difference. I agree. I agree. It is clear there were things that were said be it regarding hydroxy