campaign can do to win back those votes. good morning and welcome to "way too early" on this friday, september 8th. i'm jonathan lemire. thanks for starting your day with us. and we'll begin this morning with the latest out of fulton county, georgia. we've learned that former president donald trump might try to move his pending election interference trial out-of-state court and into a federal one. in a court filing yesterday trump's attorneys formally notified the judge of the possible effort to make that move explaining that any decision must be filed within 30 days of trump's arraignment. that would give the former president until the end of the month to decide how to proceed. now, trump's former white house chief of staff, mark meadows, has already pushed to try to move his case to federal court and had a hearing on the matter last week. the judge is expected to make a ruling on the meadows request in the near future. meanwhile, fulton county d.a. fani willis is accusing one of donald trump's top allies in congress of trying to obstruct her case. in a scathing letter yesterday the d.a. blasted house judiciary committee chairman jim jordan for his efforts to investigate her state probe. following trump's indictment in georgia last month, the ohio republican asked willis to turn over all documents related to the case, which jordan claims is politically motivated. in response the d.a. wrote in part this yesterday. "your attempt to invoke congressional authority, to intrude upon and interfere with an active criminal case in georgia is flagrantly at odds with the constitution. your letter makes clear that you lack a basic understanding of the law, its practice, and the ethical obligations of attorneys generally and prosecutors specifically. its obvious purpose is to obstruct a georgia criminal proceeding and to advance outrageous partisan misrepresentations. i tell people often deal with reality or reality will deal with you. it is time that you deal with some basic realities. a special purpose grand jury made up of every day citizens investigated for ten months and made recommendations to me. for a more thorough understanding of georgia's rico statute, its application, and similar laws in other states, i encourage you to read rico state by state. as a nonmember of the bar, you can purchase a copy for $249." jordan's office has not -- has not responded to requests for comment. last night donald trump hosted a $100,000 a plate fund-raiser to help rudy giuliani pump money into his legal defense fund. the events took place at trump's golf club in bedminster, new jersey. giuliani had reportedly sought a financial lifeline from trump, but appeals court direct assistance from the former president unsurprisingly failed. giuliani faces mounting expenses amid lawsuits and his efforts to overturn the 2020 election. giuliani's son said the event was expected to raise more than $1 million and that trump committed to hosting a second fund-raiser, this one at his mar-a-lago club at some point later this year. here's what an attorney representing giuliani in the georgia case said about the fund-raiser. >> i assume that they're trying to raise as much as possible, and i think they're going to need it. if you look at how much the state has already spent on a case like this, all the district attorneys they've pulled from the line, all the paper copy costs, all the investigative work, all the things they're doing, i don't care how much money you have, you cannot outspend the state. just being named an indictment of this magnitude and knowing the scale, the scope, the length of this trial, even the preliminary matters is going to be extremely costly. >> to generate some cash giuliani has sold autographed 9/11 shirts and pitched sandals sold by-election denier and mypillow salesman mike lindell. joining us now and an msnbc contributor barbara mcquade. good morning, barbara, great to see you. let's start by returning to our top story. donald trump's efforts to remove his case to federal court. let's get your assessment as to the strategy, but also do you think his efforts could be successful? >> well, first, it's an interesting filing because he doesn't actually file the removal motion. he says i think i might, i'm looking into it. and so it's an odd kind of filing but nonetheless on the merits i think it's doomed to fail in the same way the motion by mark meadows is doomed to fail because the question is not simply whether you're working as a federal official at the time of the alleged conduct but whether you're acting in the scope of your authority. and i think the way to frame this is everything trump was doing in georgia was as a candidate not as the president. as the president he has enormous duties, but involving himself in a state election is not one of them. so i think for that reason both of those motions are doomed to fail. >> let's talk about that speaking of georgia that scathing letter from d.a. willis to republican congressman jim jordan. how unusual is it for a prosecutor to take that step, and what do you think could happen next? >> well, it is highly unusual. but what's really unusual is getting that inquiry in the first place from congress. i mean she states the law absolutely accurately, which is under our federal separation of powers and under federalism which says the state gets some work and the federal government gets other work, it is completely inconsistent with that. so i think she's really just calling out this tactic that jim jordan and his weaponization committee have taken on in trying to use their committee as a vehicle to spread misinformation, and she says that in the letter, so i think it's a very strong pushback. i think it's very appropriate, and i think it's necessary because the constitution as the supreme court has held gives states the power to enforce the laws of their states. that's an executive branch function which she's part of. it's not a matter for the legislature to involve themselves in, so she writes it in very strong terms. >> barbara, lastly staying in fulton county, there's been a lot of debate as to the time line of that case. the d.a. is trying to push it forward and link all these cases together but the suggestion could be 150 witnesses and six months or more. a lot of legal experts have suggested that's not realistic. really sort of get your take when this could happen, and is there any chance this is a trial that could occur before next november's election? >> yeah, the hearing that was held the other day was very telling because the prosecutor revealed they believe that trying this case will take four months and be presenting more than 150 witnesses. that message was directed directly at the judge who does not want to endure that experience many times over. he probably will have to endure it more than once, but he certainly doesn't want to endure it 19 times. so what seems to me most likely to happen is that those who demand a speedy trial will get one and that the other defendants will probably be tried in smaller batches. of course there may be guilty pleas at some point that pares that number down. i imagine prosecutors will want to put donald trump in a first batch if that's at all possible, but i think this case is probably unlikely to go before the next election and that's because the calendar is already very crowded with other trials with donald trump as a defendant. so i think this is one that although fani willis is doing everything she can to push a speedy trial, which is a right of the public as well as of the defendant, i think that ultimately she built this one for thoroughness as opposed to building it for speed. >> built for speed seems to be what jack smith did in the federal election case. former u.s. attorney barbara mcquade, thank you as always. please have a nice weekend. one more legal but separate story this morning is former trump white house advisor peter navarro. he was convicted of contempt of congress yesterday for ignoring a subpoena last year from the house january 6th committee. it took the jury just four hours to find navarro guilty on both counts he faced for refusing to testify before the committee and refusing to turn over requested documents. the trial lasted only two days. navarro's legal team did not present any witness testimony or evidence. navarro had planned on mounting a defense claiming he was protected by executive privilege. he claimed former president trump told him not to cooperate with the committee, but the judge rejected that argument in a pretrial ruling last week. >> we knew going in what the verdict was going to be. that's why this is going to the appeals court. and we feel -- look, i said from the beginning this is going to the supreme court. i said from the beginning i am willing to go to prison to settle this issue. i'm willing to do that, but i also know that the likelihood of me going to prison is relatively small because we are right on this issue. >> sentencing is set for january 12th. navarro faces up to two years in prison. he has repeatedly called this a landmark case based on the separation of powers. >> people like me, senior white house advisers, alter egos of the president, cannot be compelled -- can't be compelled to testify before congress. absolute yet they brought the case. >> after the verdict navarro's attorney called for a mistrial claiming the jury was exposed to protesters during a break when they returned the guilty verdict shortly afterwards. but the judge would not rule on it right away and told navarro's lawyer to file a motion to consider at a later time. still ahead here on "way too early," florida governor and 2024 presidential candidate ron desantis gets into a heated exchange about the recent racist shooting in jacksonville. plus, we'll bring you the very latest on the ongoing manhunt for an escaped inmate in pennsylvania. those stories and a check on sports and weather when we come right back. . weather when we come right back we used to struggle with greasy messes. now, we just freak, wipe, and we're done! with mr. clean clean freak, conquering messes is that easy. clean freak's mist is three times more powerful, and it works on contact. clean freak, just freak, wipe, done. businesses need 5g solutions today. that's why they choose t-mobile for business. mlb partners with t-mobile to not only enhance the fan experience, but to advance how the game is played. aaa relies on t-mobile's network to stay connected nationwide, so they can help get their members back on the road. and we're helping pano ai innovate, to stop the spread of wildfires. now's the time to see what america's largest 5g network can do for your business. just between us, you know what's better than mopping? 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shortly after 5:00 p.m. eastern yesterday. the plane has already stopped off at the air base in germany to refuel on the way before it arrives in india during the evening. when the president does touch down in india, he'll then meet with indian prime minister narendra modi at his residence. this will be the first meeting between the leaders of the world's two largest democracies since modi visited the white house back in june. india becoming a very important ally of the united states though at times a problematic one. joining us now chief correspondent for the messenger. the president has an important agenda this weekend. xi jinping of china not going to be there, but certainly the presence of beijing will overshadow this meeting. there's a political overtone. we saw yesterday no coincidence his campaign put out a new ad that highlighted biden's trip to kyiv in the spring and his leadership on the world stage. >> yeah, and i think that's a big moment they want to emphasize, obviously. this is a president that is facing criticism and maybe i don't know there are rumblings obviously in the democratic party about can he do it, does he have tenacity, does he have strength? and here he is. he's in kyiv. he's in a war zone. air sirens are going off, and they wanted to sort of capitalize on this, if you will, and kind of highlight how he was able to make this trip overnight, how he not only had the tenacity, but he was able do this, able to go into a war zone when people are kind of criticizing him and saying he doesn't have that strengthen to do this. and here he is. and i think there is more to come. i talked to people yesterday who said this is just the tip of the iceberg. they are going to keep kind of playing this highlight. they're going to keep kind of emphasizing that, but he's going to keep kind of showing in a way he can not only do this job, not only campaign for president but be president again for another four years. >> certainly political tourism in foreign policy doesn't win that many votes, but the angle here is leadership on the world stage and vitality in ukraine and now heading to india. let's turn now to some domestic affairs. you've got exclusive new reporting what house republicans intended to pursue in an impeachment inquiry into president biden. what can you tell us about it? >> my colleagues at the messenger dug into what exactly all they looking at? there's still doubt about what evidence they actually do have, tangible evidence. we've asked them about that and prodded, and they've said that they are kind of closing in on bribery. they feel like they have enough to prove that he was involved, not only his son but the president himself was involved in this. and they are sort of closing in on that argument, and i think you're going to hear more from them in the weeks to come on this. >> and lastly and very briefly what sort of time line do you think we'll have here and does mccarthy think he has the votes? >> right now you can 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voters think of those labels, that they're shifted. so if you're fog to talk about the issue, you need to be specific. joining us now senior congressional reporter for punch bowl news. andrew, good to see you this morning. let's talk a little bit about this. it's not clear whether they'll actually adopt the strategy of scrapping the phrase pro-life. but abortion rights has been a defining one at the ballot box in last year's mid-terms as well as a few special elections. it's an issue democrats are largely winning. what do you think the gop is going to do? >> yeah, as you mention, john, you know, there are several states even some of the most conservative states in the country like kansas, for example, where they voted to codify abortion rights. and, you know, what happened after roe v. wade was overturned last year was you saw this sort of wave across the country that was very beneficial politically and electorally for democrats. even last month in the state of ohio, again, i think we can consider ohio to be a red state, of course. there was a referendum on raising the threshold to change the state's constitution, which happened to coincide with a vote later this year in ohio to codify abortion rights in the state's constitution. republicans wanted to raise the threshold because they were fearful it would pass. this referendum of course did not paz and the threshold was not raised, so that makes it more likely this year the state of ohio, again, a red state, will vote to codify abortion rights in the state's constitution. again, republicans are sort of seeing the writing on the wall when it comes to this issue. >> certainly it will be a defining one for the 2024 election as well and some democrats who see poll numbers that don't look great for president biden one of their notes of reassurance is abortion will get people to the polls before next november. there's a lot of drama in the building behind you and there's a looming shutdown and it appears funding for the war in ukraine may be a sticking point, and i know it's something you've covered very carefully. give us the latest as to where things stand. >> yes, we've reported this week in punch bowl news a.m. edition that speaker mccarthy is eyeing a strategy for the stop gap government funding bill that would essentially leave out ukraine aid and use it as a bargaining chip with the white house to get some concessions on border policy and also get some additional money for the border. obviously the white house has asked for around $4 billion for the border as part of their supplemental spending requests. republicans obviously want more, so what mccarthy is doing right now is using that ukraine aid as sort of a bargaining chip, as a leverage point to try to extract some concessions from the administration. on the other side of the capitol, senate republicans are not happy with this strategy. you've seen mitch mcconnell all week really every day during his florida remarks going after those in his own party who are skeptical of aiding ukraine. he said basically throughout the next few days i'm going to go through what i see as the dubious and faulty arguments of the other side, and i think it's not gotten a lot of attention, but you're going to really see this come to the forefront as mccarthy considers whether to do this and the senate considers whether to jam the house in return. obviously the senate could attach ukraine aid to whatever continuing resolution to keep the government open that they passed and send them back to the house. that would put mccarthy obviously in a difficult position knowing so many members of his conference on that side of the capitol are not supportive of continuing to aid ukraine. so this is going to be a major flash point later this year -- later this month, excuse me, and it has the potential to cause a government shutdown. >> that's really important insight here, the mccarthy versus mcconnell divide on this and may be an impeachment inquiry too, 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unfortunately, not good morning, john. yes, certainly ed ready for the weekend. it looks like the market might as well be ready for the weekend, too. it's unfortunately getting a bit of hammering as well. across the week it really has been negative and does follow on from what is seen has been a negative month then for a lot of stock markets then particularly september being that month, right? we are, of course, anticipating fed chair jerome powell later this month to deliver a sense what he expects to do when it comes to interest rates. the current expectation is 90% of the market, anyway, believes there will be a pause on interest rate hikes, so keeping them at their current level. but, unfortunately, the likes of apple dragging things down quite significantly when it comes to the impact on this market pitch. but overall all three indices down. not even the tech counters could unfortunately push things higher. in fact, they've pushed things lower. >> there are renewed fears this morning over the possibility of further rate hikes by the fed. tell us what's behind this concern. >> yeah, as i've said initially the market had anticipated 90% chance, you know, interest rates will remain on pause in this september meeting that is anticipated very soon, but it's about november and what happens from then. that's because initial jobless claims of the number of people basically filing to be jobless or claims for jobless benefits, that number decreased then by 13,000 to 213,000 in the weekending september 2nd. that means then you still have a pretty resilient labor market, so things aren't falling as much as one would have perhaps anticipated in this market, and so it does mean the fed may consider keeping more rate hikes on the table as a possibility because then it just means there is more room for them to pressure the economy and get down inflation as much as possible, which of course is still too high for them and they need to try to get it down to 2%. >> and last one for you, arabile, as we teased before the break there's one tech giant that lost nearly $200 billion in market value in just the last two days. tell us who that is and what's behind the sell-off. >> well, it's not new york but it is the big apple, unfortunately, right? that behemoth has unfortunately lost quite a significant portion of its market value and does come on the band of what is said to be effectively an extension of a ban placed in china. of course departments have said they would not liken any apple devices to be in place in any of those departments, so department use of apple phones is not allowed to be in place. even telling a few of their employees to actually leave their iphones at home. that's as far as it goes. now they're hoping -- they're planning should i say to extend that ban and those restrictions to other departments, government agencies and other government departments as well, which is of course -- i mean it's apple's second largest market, right? this is going to be very important for them. if this continues to happen, i mean, the trade war that is currently in place is still bound to hurt things quite significantly, that share price heading down. as i said earlier, as dragged a lot of the indexes, particularly the tech-heavy nasdaq. >> we appreciate the reporting this morning. live from london, thank you. enjoy that weekend. up next here on "way too early," we'll look at president biden's approval ratings and the thing that might be democrats most concerned at the ballot box. coming up on "morning joe," donald trump and his legal team could be following in the footsteps of his co-defendants. why he is now considering asking a judge to move his georgia case to federal court. later, more schools are embracing a four-day academic week. but not everyone is on board. we'll discuss why some see this as a potential downside, and who they say will be most negatively affected. plus, comedienne samantha bee will join us with her take on a hot 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>> good question, john. they're spending $25 million on advertising over the next several weeks, trying to get voters to understand what they believe are the strengths of biden's agenagenda, his record the presidency so far, try to educate the public a little bit more in the hopes that people have just not been paying attention, in hopes that people are not listening, in hopes that some of these folks -- i think it is 58% disapprove of his handling of the economy or basically say his presidency made the economy worse. hopefully, in their view, reversing some of that. these are no good numbers for an incumbent president. they're not good for a democrat who we know has to run up the score in the popular vote across the country in order to win the electoral college. the president has his work cut out for him. >> so the white house believes that by next spring, those economic recovery will continue, more americans will feel better about it and can point to underlying metrics that say the trend is heading that direction. they also think donald trump is going to be sitting in a courtroom, and that'll scare off independent and swing voters. one thing that is undeniable, as much as democrats don't want to hear it, there is a real concern among voters, per polling, about the president's age. how is his campaign going to tackle that? >> we've heard him already, john, and some of our colleagues here at nbc have reported on biden himself making light of it at fundraisers and other events. trying to use humor as a way to push back against that. i think there is a little bit of a trap, though. they certainly let people see him doing things that are active, riding bikes, things like that, but there is a danger in promoting too much of an image of him, you know, in a vigor and vitality and athleticism, compared to what you may see at other times, which is a man in his 80s. i mean, there's only so much you can do. i think the challenge for biden is for people to believe that, despite his age, he is a better choice than donald trump, who it looks like is going to win the republican primary. as biden likes to say, don't judge him against the almighty. judge him against the other guy. he thinks he can win that. >> certainly, the white house loves to showcase biden simply doing the job of president and doing it well. as we noted, he's on his way to india for the g20, as well. you mentioned the other guy, donald trump. there's been talk of invoking a constitutional amendment. what could occur, john? >> you know, we've heard from a couple of jurisdictions that they may try to prevent him from being on the ballot. i think, you know, the politics of that and the legal aspect of that kind of remain to play out, but it does seem like -- does seem like with him facing four indictments and the possibility of certain states trying to keep him off the ballot, he may be strengthened by that in other places. >> last one quickly for ya, that cnn poll showed one republican candidate actually ahead of president biden. the others are in a dead heat. one ahead, nikki haley. what is your read as to republican and democrat strategists you speak to, why is that? >> democrats and a lot of independents, when they compare nikki haley to the other republicans on stage, they hear and see something they like, right? i think she's handled herself in a way in this primary that doesn't quite have the edge that a lot of the other republican candidates do, in terms of, you know, essentially being in a bar fight. she seems to be an adult in the room by comparison on that stage. so, you know, if you're a republican candidate who is going to win the nomination, like donald trump, maybe you're looking at her as a vice president candidate. if you're her, you have to turn that into gold. >> certainly, there was a sense she was the adult in the room on foreign policy and abortion at the debate a couple weeks back. terrific stuff, as always, from national politics reporter jonathan allen. have a great weekend. thanks to all of you for joining us today and all week long. 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