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MSNBCW Velshi July 3, 2024

Good morning. It is sunday, april 7 with the president ial race in full swing between the two nominees. Both campaigns are focusing on raising as much money as they can. A couple of weeks ago, joe biden was joined by barack obama and bill clinton to headline a star studded Campaign Fundraiser at Radio City Music Hall in New York City. And brought in a Record Setting 26 million, the most money ever raised for a single political event until apparently last night. Just 11 days after setting the record. Donald trump needed to smash it. And the fundraiser in florida last night, that they took in more than 50 million. And that they are a study in contract. And that it featured musical performances from lizzo and it featured a conversation. And the low end, what as high as 500,000, which included access to the exclusive gathering. And that it is sold out at more than 5,000 people to sell out. Donald trumps event last night was more exclusive affair. And that they were hosted by john paulson at his 110 million ocean front home in palm beach just a few minutes away from maralago. And they got very rich off of betting big against the sub prime mortgages in 2007 at the height of the credit bubble. Now trump was the nice main event and a few of his allies and the former primary component and tim scott, north dakota governor and ramaswamy, all offered remarks as well. Tickets to that event started at 250,000 at the low end and the high end, some attendees apparently paid the maximum Campaign Contribution of 814,600, which got you a seat at his fundraising table. The event was closed to the press, offering a Brief Statement on camera when he arrived at paulsons mansion. It is a great honor to hear and people are just running games. And the more people want it, they want change and they are doing poorly. Were a laughing stock all over the world. He sure needs change. And these days, the cash strapped fourtimes indicted ex president is facing millions of dollars in legal penalties, and millions in legal fees. He will still be tens of millions of dollars behind the massive cash advantage. And they reported that trump pulled in a total of 65. 6 million in march and end of the month with 93 million in cash that they would raise 90 million last month alone and that campaign now has 192 million on hand. Trumps rally and the small donor base are not pulling in as much money and his legal bills are draining. He used 55 million of donor money to pay for various fees related to multiple cases and that is why it is notable and that they are coming back home for trump. Some notable mega donors have gotten back on board with trump among those listed as cochairs of the fundraiser last night, robert bigalow, where he donated 20 million to never back down. Thats the super pack that supported ron desantis president ial bid. But in january of this year, he told them that he had recently given trump a Million Dollars for his legal fees. He also said that he promised to give 20 million more to the super pack. Who says good friends are hard to find . They are already to come back into the fold. The prominent republican fundraiser says that he wouldnt vote for trump in the wake of the insurrection, but recently sent an email to the network saying due to the dramatic change of circumstances, that i decided i will vote for trump in november. Dramatic change in circumstances. Similarly one day after the insurrection, this man, the billionaire investment, apologized for voting for trump in 2020. And that he will probably vote for trump in november, citing the border and his quote, mental within. Two concerns that would take precedence over democracy. Joining me now is molly, the senior correspondent, host of the politics podcast on the Msnbc Professor History Of American Studies at yale university, author of the field of blood, violence, congress, and the road to the civil war. Good morning to both of you. Thank you for being with us. Lets start with the numbers game, the fundraising game. What do you make of it . So the thing that i would say is that trump said hes raised 50 million, which is like about twice what biden raised two weeks ago. And i want to point out that page six did run a piece where they have a lot of connections to trump world that said trump was jealous of bidens event and the two other president s. And it is not like george w. Bush is like lets do events with trump. If anything, its quite the opposite. You could see where this might get to trump and with the music hall and the others. And john paulson who was trumps guy, the big republican donor, and who will put that together and now the numbers, maybe they are huge. I mean that number, that 800,000 number will be the maxed out, right . So those people will be able to give to their packs, but they wont be able to give to trump campaign. What you see with the biden number, that number is not the max, right . The 220,000 ticket or the 500,000 ticket is a lot and still more money in the max. Now remember, this is the worlds longest president ial campaign. That they will still have that in march. And so if things catch up. Thats interesting. And that top line is that i wouldnt take it in this word. We will ultimately see the numbers on this and that i am so reminded of the conversation that we would have in the days after january 6 in which we were discussing violence, you know, that i almost joked like someone like you in your specialty, really relevant when hamilton, the musical came out. I was hoping that it would never be relevant again. But the idea of the violence and the way they were dealing with it that it all seems to be forgotten now and that this man was at the heart of the violent insurrection that at least the business community, they might still stick to their guns. But everybody is folding for donald trump now. There is where many of these billionaires assume that they dont have a sense of what it is or what democracy is. And they dont understand what they would look like. So there is an assumption while there are wealthy people and they want to do to help them, so they will fair better with their wealth with trump and that im sure some of them will buy in to the other suggestion and that they just feel that hate and regardless of why they are there and that people think, you know, whatever, there is whatever, that it is a normal campaign. But still, i think that there is assumption that everything will be fine and that i wish that people could understand the many, many ways in which trump signals that this will not be a normal presidency. That this will be in many ways a plunge into a kind of a dictatorship where one man is important, where individual rights are not important. Where free and Fair Elections are not important. Where the rule of law is not important. And those three things, free and Fair Elections and the rule of haw. And i have just forgotten it. Someone being above the law. It is more important than those individual rights. And my point is that this is a strike at all of those things and a strike at all three of those things and thats the heart of democracy. So this is where the conversation will become problematic because we see it. He says that hes going to do it. And people say that hes not really going to. That he is just playing on things. But the reason why it did not all work last time because his team wasnt good enough. But we know about project 2025 now. We know that everybody has been lined up behind the enterprise to make sure they dont pay higher taxes or more regulation. And to that point, people are either not making the connection between your lower taxes and your end of democracy. The problem is conventional framing for normal political world that we would live in, predonald trump, where the candidates wanted to cut your taxes and maybe they will do some stuff that we did not necessarily like. Now what it does when you do conventional framing like that, it will elevate the autocrat and says that these candidates are the same, you know, that this guy wants to give you free healthcare and they want to end democracy, you know, isnt that interesting. And that is why this framing, you cannot use it that you will have to understand. And i think that people and again, that they will say this is formal, right . A president who says that a Certain Group of people that say, you would have them going after the president s enemies. That this is not how any of this is suppose to work. You know, there is a lot of anxiety in the Mainstream Media being called upon them, but its not worth it. Its not partisan for him to be democracy. It is not partisan for him to say that trump has been lying about stuff all the time. So taking him at his word might be dubious at best. I think that we will just have to be brave here and that realize that we have to, democracy will have to be job one here. And that may end up taking risks as journalists. But i think that we will have to do it because of, you know, the end could be so bad for all of us. And lets examine this a little bit more about how journalists should behave in the whole mix. A number of my colleagues here at msnbc over the last few weeks have articulated this. Rachel maddow said it. And free press works in a democracy. So we have to treat this like murder or like a hurricane. We are okay saying we are not good with this. We dont like hurricanes because they kill people. We dont like homicides. We dont like people who work against democracy. And that is not partisan in the traditional sense. Every democrat and every republican should be pro democracy in america. Absolutely. And so alongside the normalcy bias, there is a sort of both sides bias as well where you very much have to say well, this side says x and y and that is where we are now in the campaign. And at this point, it is said so often that it is almost a cliche that this isnt a normal campaign, leading up to what might not be a normal presidency if he were to win. But truly, you know, the press will need to not solve it into the familiar, which is a and b and go ahead and decide that they should be pointing out what they need. And here is where that campaign will put it and that they are the same and just a basic discussion of how they do or dont align with what democracy actually is . Im writing this down as you say it because we are going to come up with that and lets do that and talk about what they are campaigning to do. I always learn something from both of you. Its a Special Correspondent and host of the podcast on msnbc analyst, Joe Ann Freeman is an Award Winning historian at yale university. And the field of blood, violence in congress and the road to the civil war. Lessons in there that still apply today. Breaking news related to the israelgaza war. Just hours ago israel is withdrawing nearly all of its troops from Southern Gaza. Why the sudden decision and what it means for the future of the fighting as we mark six months since october 7 next. So i use nervive. Nervives clinical dose of ala reduces nerve discomfort in as little as 14 days. Now i can help again. Feel the difference with nervive. 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The Southern Gaza city where more than two Million People are living in the humanitarian nightmare. Yet just six hours ago, israel unexpectedly announced a fear total withdraw from southern troops. One remains and that said, the Israeli Government spokesman told sky news today that they will absolutely still go ahead with the Ground Invasion of rafah. Shortly after the israeli withdraw announcement, that five rockets were fired at the Israeli Border in Southern Gaza. And this all happens days after President Biden and his administration issued private and public warnings to israel that the humanitarian situation in gaza must change immediately or america will change their policy regarding aid to israel. This all comes as the latest round of ceasefire hostage talks are underway in cairo. The director is taking part in those conversations, as are officials from egypt and qatar who formally work as intermediaries for hamas. But unlike previous rounds of talks, representatives from both israel and hamas are at those talks. Joining me now from tel aviv is hala. Good to see you. What more do we know about all that has developed in the last 24 hours . Both the talks and whats going on in southern israel with the sudden and in my opinion, unexpected withdraw of israeli troops . Reporter unexpected and significant as we are talking about a complete military withdraw. One brigade remains inside the enclave. And according to the idf on securing that role that dissects north and south gaza. But according to Satellite Pictures has widened quite considerably. So it will focus the brigade attention on the north. This road that is essentially cutting gaza in half will go inside israel and vary all the way to the coast. What that means is at least right now, there will be no Ground Defensive on rafah. There arent the troops to do that. It also means that even though the Israeli Military and the military government say that it is still on the cards, but it is something that they will take some time to put into motion. This is all happening as you mentioned the backdrops on the talks in cairo where we have hamas representatives. So hopefully that could increase the chance for some sort of agreement. This is coming up as you mentioned a few days after biden and Benjamin Netanyahu had what was by all accounts a very tense conversation and where it appears as though for the First Time Since october 7, that the american president has in some ways conditioned them in assistance to a course change where we are seeing them taken and that withdraw from the south and there is also the promise to reopen the crossing into the north and in particular that we have not seen that materialize and that is something they resisted. Hala, thank you for your reporting today in tel aviv. 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