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MSNBCW Velshi July 3, 2024

Trump has abused various forms of media to attack celebrities and politicians and others who he thinks has scorned him. The practice persisted throughout his presidency as a use social media and other platforms to riddick cool his own cabinet, among them many others by the way. The behavior has continued over the past few months as the indictments piled up against different jurisdictions around the country. He made disparaging comments about the prosecutors who brought the cases against him and the judges who are assigned to those cases as well as people in could be potential witnesses. About a month ago, just a few days after he was criminally indicted for a fourth time donald trump posted an alarming threat in all caps on truth social which read, if you go after me, im coming after you. The post was cited in an earlier motion raising their concern with the judge that the former president might use evidence related to who his legal team to improperly target witnesses and in this latest motion, he called attention to the past comments writing the former president has established a practice of issuing inflammatory statements targeted at individuals or institutions that presents an obstacle to him. Meanwhile, down in georgia, we learned this week that there will be at least two trials in the criminal racketeering case against donald trump and his 18 codefendants on thursday scott mcafee granted the motion to sever the case from kenneth choose borough and Sidney Powell the two former attorneys who were involved in the scheme to use fake electors to help overturn the elections of the 2020 election. Chesebro and powell had both previously filed for a speedy trial which could begin before the end of this year. Judge mcafee has already directed the jury clerk to begin sending out subpoenas to 900 prospective jurors in fulton county. A plan to begin Jury Selection on the 23rd For Cheeseborough and powells trial joining me now is carole. Lamb the United States attorney and a former Superior Court Judge in san diego county. An msnbc legal analyst. Thank you for being with us. Lets talk about this. The judge has granted a motion in the case. What does this mean . There is at least two people tried separately. There is no courtroom big enough for all of them it struck me as odd. These trials you can make accommodations. You have to distinguish between decisions the judge made for legal reasons and decisions the judge is making for a procedural or a logistical reasons. What happened was two of the defendants then said we want a speedy trial. That means no exceptions. They want a speedy trial it goes to trial within a couple of months. Thats whats happening here. Those two defendants are going to trial in october. Its oxygen ordinarily fast. Its a decision on their part that strategic. The question became does he grant the district attorneys motion to try all 19 defendants in october. They want to do one trial and everyone together that was unlikely to ever happen. The judge was most likely going to say no the other defendants are saying they cant be ready within this two month period of time. They are going to get their trials put off. These two who say they want to speedy trial, they are saying we will be ready to go and we will try them in october and we have at least two trials we have the two to defendants who won a speedy trial and then we have the other 17 defendants who are out there. He has not yet set a trial date. Carol, there are so many references the difference between the jack smith and georgia indictments, they read the way a guy like me who is not trained would read it. This is the offense, this is what happened. The Georgia Trial reads differently. There are a lot of things in here that dont seem like standalone offenses. They are only offenses if you consider it within the context of his conspiracy within the georgia law that this particular phone call was an overt act in further ends of the conspiracy. Does severing these cases affect the ability for fani willis to make that case . Different people of these 19 codefendants did Different Things at different times in furtherance of a conspiracy. Some of them dont look to the untrained eye like crimes. So, the Conspiracy Law is not that different from Conspiracy Law in federal law. Georgia is a state law case. Jack smiths case in d. C. Is a federal case and they both Charge Conspiracy of a sort. They are very broad and the real difference is that fani willis has 19 defendants and jack smith in this case has one defendant. When you talk about the fani willis case, because she Charge Conspiracy and because she charged rico and because even though some of these players had maybe a lesser role in the overarching conspiracy they were still part of the conspiracy. You dont have to know all the other acts of all the other conspirators to be part of that conspiracy. What fani willis says, shes correct about this, she says i would be trying the very same case against defendant number 19 as i would against defendant number one because everything comes in and a conspiracy case because it was one conspiracy its what we call a hub and spoke conspiracy there are people at the hub who sort of understand the whole conspiracy and then there are people in the spokes who play a lesser role. They dont have to know what all the other spokes of the Bicycle Wheel are doing. They just have to be doing something in furtherance of the overarching conspiracy. When this case was first brought in both the Jacks Mitt Case and the fani willis case, in both cases, the Magistrate Judges put out a warning to donald trump. Be careful about social media and what you do. It didnt seem to abide by. That jack smith is now looking for a narrower gag order. Something that prevents donald trump from intimidating people involved in the cases. How do you think thats going to go and how does that get handled. If he gets his way in and get something narrower, the question always becomes how do you enforce a problem like donald trump and his social media . Sure two things, donald trump has at his disposal a tool that defendants for the last couple hundred years simply did not have. This is the ability to press a button. He has a huge megaphone on social media. The technology is fairly recent. There is not a lot of case law around. It the other aspect is that this is a Power Struggle between judge chutkan and donald trump. Judge chutkan is going to win this battle. This is, why she will do it in a measured way and jack smith is proceeding in a measured way. Here is the evidence of what hes done in the. Passed heres a concern about what hes going to do in the future. And judge chutkan what are the tools that you have in the tool box. She does not want to arrest him and put him in custody until the election or until the trial. Thats going to be problematic but she can impose pretty considerable financial finds. She can say your First Financial fine for your first transgression is going to be x amount of dollars. The next time youre doing it its going to be twice that amount. She can keep going up. Once she imposes an order and once he violates that order now we are not really talking about First Amendment so much anymore. We are talking about the courts orders. With respect to the line where the First Amendment is drawn, its always a tricky line. Remember who judge chutkans ultimate audience is its the Court Of Appeals and perhaps the Supreme Court. Who are they . They are judges. They understand the importance of Keeping Control over a trial and the judicial system and i think ultimately theyre going to play this correctly and its going to not go well for donald trump. It will be frustrating along the way. But thats one hand up. We appreciate that and your experiences is helpful not case. Carole lamb is a former United States attorney for the Southern District of california and msnbc legal analyst. Soon you will be able to have your own copy of the trump indictments the 91 trials against the former president of the United States includes for complete an edited and on and bridged indictments against donald trump. I added the addition and i were out of forwards sets the scene and add some important context. Its out on the september 25th. You can preorder it right now. 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A gm factory and wentzville, missouri, a ford plant in wayne, michigan, and a Jeep Plant Run by stellantis in toledo, ohio. Nbc news correspondent Shaquille Brewster joins us now from the g plant in toledo, ohio. The uaw president says negotiations are expected to resume today. What do you know about . It yeah, we dont have any details on official Bargaining Sessions and when they will happen. We know the sessions will pick up after the announcements and the start of the strike. The white house is sending to top aides to the president to assist in some of those negotiations. I will tell, you in the past hour or so, we have got some significant updates and statements from leadership. Uaw president sean fame saying that any of the workers that have been impacted by the layoffs and non striking workers laid off about 800, 2000 previewed at a gms facility. He assures them that they will get some sort of compensation without detailing the compensations. We also just heard from former president barack obama who said that he asked a lot from autoworkers back when he was president for concessions to make sure these companies were able to stay afloat. In his words, he says now that carmakers are enjoying robust profits, its time to do right by those same workers. That is a message that you hear from these workers when you ask why they are out here and what they are looking for. Lets hear a little bit of a conversation i had. The latest offer from the automakers has been about a 20 raise over the course of four years. Why is that not enough . That is terrible. We havent had raises in 13 years. Thats terrible. They are getting paid money. Theyre making raises. Theyre getting 40 . Why cant we get it . We deserve it. Meanwhile, you mentioned autoworkers, excuse me, auto companies, auto executives, they are saying they cant meet the demands of the autoworkers. What you heard in the latest that we know, stellantis actually came up with an offer right before strike time. There was a Counter Offer by uaw. They are detailing the latest offer. It included the 21 work including a 20 increase in the first year. Its over for years. There are some adjustments and also improvements that arent in investments they say to the retirement program. It does appear that efforts are being made and they say theyve reached a Critical Point of negotiations. How long with the strike . Last bet still a question that many people are asking. Were going to keep an eye on this closely. Thank you very much. Jack brewster for us in toledo, ohio. What do oh rightwing activists and the wife of Supreme Court justice all have in common . Here is a hint. It is not a good sign for democracy. I will tell you after a quick break. Justice Ketanji Brown jackson marks the 16th anniversary of an Alabama Church bombing by the kkk which killed four young black girls. 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