santorum opening up today about his daughter's disability. and why chris christie must be glad this week is finally over. and our very special guest this morning, senator al franken from minnesota. we begin with the latest on american isis hostage kayla mueller. until isis claimed that mueller was killed in a jordanian air strike before all that the american public did not know much about kayla mueller or the fact she was being held. "los angeles times" revealing new details overnight in the year and a half the mueller family spent holding the painful secret of their daughter's capture in the hopes of securing her release. the efforts to contain that secret were extraordinary. all contain kayla herself. young woman who spent years doing aid work around the world. three months before she was taken hostage, mueller told a local kuwanis club about her work assisting syrian refugees in turkey. for as long as i live i will not let this suffering be normal. i will not let this be something we just accept. here to discuss this isis threat is colonel jack jacobs and fawaz gergev from the london school of economics. thanks for joining us. reporting on this region knowing what you know about isis and the region as a whole, the claim here that she's been killed, whether it was through the air strikes or something else versus the hope she's still alive, how much hope is there that she's still alive? >> i think we certainly want to keep as much hope alive as possible. the u.s. certainly, from some of the comments that have come out in the past not only in the 72 hours since this incident began to surface, but also just generally over the past several months, seem to have a pretty good idea where she was. they had some accounts that she was being treated better than other hostages. so there was intelligence roughly where she was and her conditions. in the past couple of days when this began to accelerate, it didn't get a lot of traction online. we have not seen evidence of this. that would have been something isis would have tried to do as well. capitalize on propaganda like this. the u.s. has so far dampened the claims. i think the u.s. has good signal intelligence. they would have picked up chatter, noise within various groups within isis that she was killed. >> practically speaking the way isis operates they claimed she's dead. they said she was dead. if she was still alive, is that something they could plausibly come back and say and negotiate over? >> it's hard to know that. it's hard to know who within isis has that decisionmaking capability. we know isis does not shy away from using their hostages for propaganda value and extorting concession from who they are dealing with. they tried to do it with jordan the japanese hostages. it would be no different. i believe it would be no different with this particular american hostage, if in fact they had access to her in a way they could benefit from her. >> colonel from a military standpoint and intelligence standpoint what is going on now? >> the signals intelligence, we work hard to intercept phone messages e-mail messages. we have overhead capabilities with spy planes satellites but we don't have human intelligence. we don't have people on the ground to verify things. we're in a position where we have to believe everything told to us or at least make believe that we believe that everything is told to us until we get some human intelligence on the ground and get some real information. >> to that point, quickly, jordanians have pretty good intelligence on the ground. >> they're saying absolutely this is a false claim. >> and another thing to jordan's credit, they came out very quickly, once the jordanian pilot was killed and they said they believed he was killed on january 3rd. and they demanded a proof of life video. the fact that jordan has come out expressing doubt about the isis claim i think also substantiates the fact -- >> that's what isis does. they'll time and time again kill hostages. ours is not the only one. they'll kill hostages well in advance of the announcement. >> fawaz, there's been some additional talk and speculation in this case because the hostage is a woman. the idea that maybe isis killing a woman would be you know more of a violation of islamic law. it would be more problematic in terms of recruitment, pr standpoint, all that. there's been some speculation here that maybe they did kill her and they're latching on to the air strikes as sort of -- to give them cover for doing something that could get them in pr trouble. anything to that? >> maybe. but, steve, we're no longer surprised, but what can isis do and does not do. they have done everything really that does not exist in the book. in terms of slaughtering in the name of religion twisted interpretations of faith, burning the jordanian pilot, he was a sunni muslim beheadings. i think the question of woman, kayla, is a special case. you're absolutely correct. i think isis knows or some of the leaders within isis know that they cannot display a video of kayla in the same way they do when it comes to men. islam not only prohibits the killing of women and children and elderly, even though isis has violated all the principles and values of islamic doctrine but this would be a very special case. my take on it, i hope i'm right, is that kayla is not dead. isis has not provided any evidence that somehow she was -- she had been killed by the jordanian air strikes. the americans seem to believe that the air strikes did not really target where she is. so hopefully this is more of a pr stunt. and they're trying to basically respond to the intenseifying jordanian air strikes. >> professor gerges is right. but isis has killed women. they rape women, yewthey kill women in territories -- >> but not something they publicize. >> absolutely. that's the point that the professor is making some are holding on to that that they won't cross the line. >> in terms of the bigger picture with isis i wanted to put this out. this was an article in slate this week that characterized isis as fundamentally suicidal. basically saying that all of its actions will be self destructive. in the case of jordan the video has changed everything in the political culture in that country. isis remains a threat but the king's domestic problem is gone. he no longer has to persuade his people that isis is their mortal enemy. the video took care of that. >> fawaz, do you believe that basic framework that isis is suicidal and in time they will self destruct? >> you know steve, i know that isis in particularly the united states is portrayed as invincible defeatible standing tall in the face of multiple coalition partners. isis is fragile. isis is defeatible. they have now triggered a widespread feeling among arab and muslim public clerics, theorists. they have alienated radical jihadists of al qaeda time across the board. we don't have time to talk about it in this sense, isis is defeatible, not just militarily. even if we defeat isis militarily the strategy itself the strategy is to dismandtle the ideology. by trying to convince local public opinion in iraq and other places that isis is a threat to not only the state system. the burning of the jordanian pilot is a tipping point and convincing and reinforcing muslim public opinion, hostile and negative view of what the isis threat is. >> if it is a tipping point, muslim countries have to take advantage of it ultimately militarily, people on the ground, a coalition of arab forces to take advantage of the advances you get as a result of the air strikes. and take advantage of the current political situation. unless arab countries get on the ground -- >> does it take -- in the case of jordan, it's a jordanian pilot t changes the culture of the country. now everybody wants revenge on isis does it take hurting one of their own to get revenge like that? >> it might. as a result of the pilot being emulated, you have the uae who said they weren't going to bomb anymore, participate anymore, they are back in the game. i think it does take something personal, up close and personal sorry about that cliche to get them motivated. but there's got to be leadership in the region to say enough is enough. we're going to take advantage of this opening and not only get rid of these guys but be able to militarily and politically hold the terrain so they don't come back. >> thanks to faw a, z ger gshgs you. brian williams is stepping away temporarily from the broadcast. in a statement he said it is apparent i'm too much a part of the news. this comes after questions about his version of events while covering the iraq war in investigation in 2003. lester holt will be filling in for williams. still ahead this morning, a new winter storm threatening to dump more snow on new england. we'll have the latest from the weather channel reporter on the ground in boston or maybe on the snow on the ground in boston. we'll talk to him in a bit. and next the rsvp list for benjamin benjamin netanyahu's speech to congress next month may be getting a lot shorter. $21. could something that small make an impact on something as big as your retirement? i don't think so. well if you start putting that towards your retirement every week and let it grow over time, for twenty to thirty years that retirement challenge might not seem so big after all. ♪ ♪ you know... ...there's a more enjoyable way to get your fiber. try phillips fiber good gummies. they're delicious... and a good source of fiber to help support regularity. mmmm these are good! the tasty side of fiber. from phillips. i've been called a control freak... i like to think of myself as more of a control... enthusiast. mmm, a perfect 177-degrees. and that's why this road warrior rents from national. i can bypass the counter and go straight to my car. and i don't have to talk to any humans, unless i want to. and i don't. and national lets me choose any car in the aisle. control. it's so, what's the word?... sexy. go national. go like a pro. there comes a time in everyone's life when you want more. like a new meticulously engineered german sedan. finely crafted. exactingly precise. desire for such things often outpaces one's means. until now. hey matt, new jetta? yeah. introducing lots of new. the new volkswagen jetta. isn't it time for german engineering? good job! still running in the morning? yeah. getting your vegetables every day? when i can. [ bop ] [ male announcer ] could've had a v8. two full servings of vegetables for only 50 delicious calories. ♪ it was the best day ♪ dominos continue to fall the wrong way for israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu's planned speech to congress next month. vice president joe biden announcing on friday he will not be attending that event. president obama has already said that he will not be meeting with netanyahu while he's in town for that speech. ever since the announcement there's been a steady stream of democrats announcing their plans to skip the speech. james clyburn among those saying he won't be able to make it. in israel there's a growing number of people calling for netanyahu to cancel his visit. it's election season in israel netanyahu's fate will be decided on march 17th, two weeks after the planned address. there are questions now about whether netanyahu will actually go through with the speech. there are also signs that he may be preparing to blame house speaker john boehner who made the invitation to netanyahu without consulting with the white house first. it appears the speaker of congress made a move which we trusted, which ultimately became clear was a one-sided move and not a move by both sides. joining us here is our panel. appreciate everybody. so just in terms of where this stands right now, in terms of congressional politics john boehner issued the invitation, even nancy pelosi was critical of the invitation. is this speech going to happen? >> all signs point to yes now. speaker boehner reiterated the invitation still stands. if netanyahu rescinds this invitation, will this make him look weak back in israel. you saw that his deputy foreign minister inferred that they were misled. if he were to take back his acceptance of this invitation would that make him look weak on the national stage? so i think it's looking like it's heading that way and democrats are trying to downplay it. congressional leadership says there's no organized boycott or anything. >> i think it was john lewis who said he won't be there. then it got reported that he's boycotting the speech. he said i'm not boycotting it but i won't be there. i'm not sure of that distinction. there is also the should it happen question. what do you think? >> my initial reaction is how dare a world leader come here and tell us how to run our country. that's something we get to do. i would think netanyahu would not want to come here and be a pawn within this ongoing legislative battle between ds and rs. he's been used to embarrass obama. a part of the obstructionist tactics we talked about. if he wants to have an impact on american politics and foreign policy, there's a way to do that without embarrassing obama. >> we know the netanyahu/obama relationship is not good. it's poisonous. netanyahu didn't expect obama to get re-elected in 2012. is this a case of netanyahu casting his lot with boehner and congressional republicans and sort of making a stand on domestic politics in the united states? >> there are two people who will not be in two years be upset they're not working together anymore, that's president obama and benjamin netanyahu. the issue is not this one speech. the issue is what action also the u.s. take as it relates to iran and its nuclear program. the challenge is for congressional democrats who want to take sanctions further. senator menendez and schumer want further action taken. at some point they will break with their president and say we'll push this with congressional republicans. congressional republicans want more sunk shuns. so the pressure is between the president and his party. >> that's where this gets interesting this is from the "new york times" last week. because this debate over the netanyahu speech has changed the politics in congress over this issue of sanctions. you had the democrats willing to sign up with this republican push. they backed off. you see for months the issue of imposing sanctions on iran split democrats from the president. they feared his posture was emboldening the government in tehran. but mr. netanyahu's planned speech a provocation of the president that many democrats found distasteful and undiplomatic has helped shift the political dynamic. mendez said he will wait until after the 24th. that's changed a bit. >> and the fact that senator menendez and ten democratic colleagues who are supportive of the sanctions have penned this letter saying we'll wait until the 24th means the administration has that time. they shouldn't expect those democrats to go back on that. if you recall last year around this time, a few months before these are the democrats who were calling vocally for a sanctions vote, it wasn't until the administration lobbied and harry reid put the sanctions vote on the floor for a vote that they backed off. they have time but the clock is ticking. >> you have six weeks to get a deal with iran. good luck with that. >> that's plenty. >> we talked about this a bit in the show yesterday. david ignatius in the "washington post" said he thinks the united states internationally is in a stronger position than it's been in a few years. he was saying just don't take any deal with iran, you can hold out for the right deal. >> absolutely. we need to have iran be in control in terms of what they're doing nuclear-wise. and if we can force them to do the right thing, that's better for all of us. the thing we were wondering, is this helping netanyahu and israel. and we're not clear, if it helps him 1% that's all that he needs. i don't know you don't know that. do you have a sense of whether this is helping netanyahu in israel? >> what israelis wanted is a prime minister who will communicate every day that they are under threat from a nation. right now he's the best messenger. two years ago i went to israel and had a visit and saw -- met a lady named chin abrams who every day lives on the gaza strip and every day is in fear that a missile will come down and blow up the school her son and children go to. israel needs the best messenger out there saying we're under attack every day. >> he may be forcing him into a position where they have to say, look, we need the united states. do we want to have a prime minister here who has this antagonistic relationship with the president of the united states? >> it's -- i think the press secretary at the white house gets sent out to make the most ridiculous arguments. that he had to come out and say we didn't want to interfere with the elections. when the president was a candidate went all around the world before the election to show his gravitas. somehow president obama can go around when he's up for election and campaign and communicate a message, but other world leaders can't do the same thing? >> one thing, too, the united states' position in the middle east is come propromised with the arab nations because we are seen as being there for israel all the time. maybe we could be a better friend with israel if we were able to pull back a bit and be seen as an honest country for all the countries. >> this administration had netanyahu come out a few years ago and say i'm for a statehood. i'm for things that he was never for before. he took great grief from his right flank, from the conservative members in israel because they're like we have never been for that. now the white house has told you, you have to be for it. now you're for it. the case can be made that netanyahu tried to follow president obama's lead. >> this gets into the nitty gritty of israeli politics. this parliamentary system where you become prime minister by patching together this coalition. and the coalition that netanyahu put together is the far right parties in israel. politically that will inhibit you. any way, we will see what ends up happening with that speech. let's see if that happens. still ahead, a truly brutal week for chris christie. is he now in danger of being written off by his own party? next a new very high profile effort to try to somehow convince elizabeth warren to run for president from some of the biggest names in hollywood. stay still, like a statue. just like a statue. just one more. look here! when your day goes on and on you need 48 hour odor protection that goes on clear for no white marks. secret outlast clear gel i have the worst cold with this runny nose. i better take something. dayquill cold and flu doesn't treat your runny nose. seriously? alka-seltzer plus cold and cough fights your worst cold symptoms plus your runny nose. oh, what a relief it is. ♪ there's confidence. then there's trusting your vehicle maintenance to ford service confidence. our expertise, technology, and high quality parts mean your peace of mind. now you can get the works, a multi-point inspection with a synthetic blend oil change tire rotation, brake inspection and more. $29.95 or less. (lowe) hi. i'm rob lowe. and i have directv. (hs lowe) and i'm peaked in high school rob lowe. and i have cable. (lowe) directv is wireless, so you can put your tvs anywhere without having to look at those ugly wires and boxes in every room. (hs lowe) cable isn't wireless but you just gotta put something in front of them. (lowe) i'm still in awe of how great my tvs look. (hs lowe) and i'm still captain of the team. (lowe) don't be like this me. get rid of cable and upgrade to directv. call 1-800-directv. oh yea, that's coming down let's get some rocks, man. health can change in a minute. so cvs health is changing healthcare. making it more accessible and affordable with walk-in medical care, no appointments needed and most insurance accepted. minuteclinic. another innovation from cvs health. because health is everything. all right. there's a lot going on this morning. we'll get caught up on some other headlines people are talking about. so, what do we have here? let's start with this. this is from the hill newspaper in washington saying more than 90 celebrities say they are ready for warren. susan some signing an open letter to elizabeth warren to say we are here to show you you have the support needed to enter this presidential race. mark ruffalo said i would love to see hillary adopt elizabeth warren's politics. they're ready for elizabeth warren. >> this always works when hollywood tells people what it should do and what should happen. it reinforces this idea that elizabeth warren is a cool candidate. but is this actually going to get her to run? i don't think so. >> it reenfofrss theinforces the notion that hillary clinton may have a problem on her hands if she doesn't inspire this enthusiasm. if you're seen as the heir apparent that doesn't help you this far out. >> elizabeth warren is not a candidate until she is a candidate. and if you asked the majority of democratic activists who they want to be their nominee, it's elizabeth warren. >> the activists say -- they take a pole and she's 58 points. the "new york times" saying the economic plan is a quandary for hillary clinton's campaign. she has not been doing much publicly the last few months but privately she's been receiving advice for 200 policy experts on how to address the anger about income equality. and in the "washington post," clinton is building a different kind of campaign for 2016. trying to build off the mistakes of 2008. promising a different result. she starts off in a different place. this economic quandary it's interesting. it's all playing out behind the scenes. we don't know what message she'll run on. that's being decided now. >> looks like she's not going to go with a more centrist approach that characterized her husband's administration, but wrathary more rather a more pop list approach. >> sounds like they're nervous about being too far to the left and seen as too hostile to wealthy. >> personifies hillary clinton's problem, she's a terrible candidate. there's one thing that a candidate has do in a campaign, decide the message. there were articles this week that they were delaying in part because they weren't sure what the message is. that comes from one person. elizabeth warren doesn't have that problem. bernie sanders doesn't have that problem. >> it's easy for elizabeth warren who is a fantastic campaigner to say that because she's not actually in the fish bowl, the mistakes that hillary made in 2008 when she was up against one of the great campaigns of all time is not something that we'll see, i think think think, in 2016. we're seeing a democratic party upset about income inequality and rightly so. they're angry at the rich. rightly so. these policies this economy, this way of being did not come about all on its own. rich people helped create this situation. so they're right to be angry at the rich. can hillary articulate? i don't think so. >> somebody thinking beyond the democratic primaries, thinking of the general election. want to get to a few more this is from gizmoto. this is my favorite story of the morning. this is an app that tells you the probability of your plane crashing. >> come on. >> it's called am i going down? my answer to this is generally, yes. >> you think the answer is 100%. >> here's my problem with this. so apparently somebody is using it saying they get on their odds are 1 in 1.54 million. you get on the plane next time it's 1 in 2.3 million. things got worse for me. >> it's like those clocks where you type in your information and it tells you when you want to die. >> did you ever use one of those? >> absolutely. >> does the app tell you that driving to the airport you are far more likely to get in a car crash? >> a more helpful app for me is the chance with my luggage is going to arrive in time. >> don't lower yourself into a false sense of security. the worst thing that i can imagine is, this is the fear of flying this is what it is. i can imagine being in the plane, imagine something going wrong. i can imagine is starts to go down. my one thought i could have stayed home. >> you say that every day any way. >> and i'm still here toure'. still ahead, senator al franken, he will be on the show to talk about an issue he is deeply passionate about. also i will ask him about next week's big 40th anniversary for "saturday night live." he will be there? next george w. bush ran his first campaign on the idea of compassionate conservativism. we will see what brand of conservativism his brother just unveiled. mute buttons equal danger. ...that sound good? not being on this phone call sounds good. it's not muted. was that you jason? it was geoffrey! it was jason. it could've been brenda. ♪ turn around ♪ ♪ every now and then i get a little bit hungry ♪ ♪ and there's nothing good around ♪ ♪ turn around, barry ♪ ♪ i finally found the right snack ♪ [ female announcer ] fiber one. do you have something for pain? i have bayer aspirin. i'm not having a heart attack, it's my back. i mean bayer back & body. it works great for pain. bayer back & body provides effective relief for your tough pain. better? yeah...thanks for the tip! at ally bank no branches equals great rates. it's a fact. kind of like shopping hungry equals overshopping. the recovery has been everywhere but in the family paychecks. the american dream has become a mirage for far too many. so i'm getting involved in politics again because that's where the work has to begin. the opportunity gap is the defining issue of our time. >> that's jeb bush on wednesday making the case that not enough people have shared in the economic growth of the past six years. the speech gave us the first real look at what a jeb bush presidential campaign would look like including some willingness to break with his party's base. >> corporations are not a problem. the immigrant experience that our country experiences makes us unique, different, and is part of our extraordinary success. >> separating himself from the base on immigration is consistent with bush's stated strategy running a campaign mindful of the jenlt election. there's a question of how voters will look at a third bush running the oval office. >> i love my dad. my dad is the greatest man alive. if anybody disagrees, we'll go outside, unless you are 6'5" 250, much younger than me then we'll negotiate. i still will not change my mind. i love my brother. it doesn't bother me a bit to be proud of them and love them. but i know if i'm going to be successful going beyond the consideration, i have to do it on my own. >> here to discuss what we learned from jeb bush's first big speech as essentially a presidential candidate, we have robert costa, who is in des moines this weekend covering all things 2016 and mark cupito for politico. robert, if you could put in context for us the message that jeb bush delivered this week in that speech. where does that put him in today's republican party? >> governor bush, he is the son and brother of former presidents. we he really fits in the republican ideological specimen is at the jack kemp foundation he talks about the idea of right to rise poverty, engaging with minority communities. it's not dubya, or 41 it's that uplift of joyous politics. >> mark, where do you think the party's appetite is? i've been struck looking at the polling early on the thing to me is when it's early, name recognition counts for a lot. the name bush is polling in single digits right now. >> if i could answer that question accurately, i could tell you winning lottery numbers. if you look at 2012 and 2008, everyone got a shot. bush will have his time in the sun, probably marco rubio as well. the idea that bush is a reform conservative, yes, it might harken back to jack kemp t also harkins back to jeb bush, certainly jeb bush of 1998. he rain a campaign on reforming schools and looking at minority communities, doing well and improving minority performance in schools and lifting kids out of poverty. i'm not saying i endorse the idea, but that's been jeb's consistent message. >> has there been change here in terms of strategically whether this is bush or the other republicans, it was striking to me the economic message he was delivering is not one we've been hearing from republicans the last few years. we've had a few months of pretty good economic news in the obama presidency, the bush message was it's not that bad, but it could be better. has there been a shift here on how republicans are talking about economic questions? >> i think there has been a shift. i'm out in iowa, i sat down with a lot of jeb bush allies. they make the argument that the republican party is changing. in 2008 and 2012 the republican caucuses went to a favorite of the evangelical right. because bush is more in tune to economic inequality he could make a play for iowa, heit is indicative of how bush sees the race. yes, the party was pulled to the right in previous races, but he can pull it back to the center. >> when he started this a few months ago, his mark was you have to be willing to lose the primary in order to win the general election. i see the point with how mitt romney especially on comments with immigration hurt himself in the primary in 2012. i wonder does bush need to make some kind of a gesture here the core base of the republican party that tells them look i may stray a bit, but in my heart i'm one of you. does he need to do something drating onic drat dratic on that front? >> he might. he is doing more than saying i am who i am i will run as you take me as i have always been. i will not wind up pandering, swinging left and right too much. that was one of the big problems that mitt romney did have in 2012. for jeb, when he goes out there and talks about immigration, he's not shying away from it because he believes in it. the idea that jeb may not play well among evangelical voters there was the case of terri schiavo, the brain-dead woman who was taken off of life support. jeb went in and tried to keep the woman alive. it was a huge issue. if i am in the bush campaign i will mail that article to everybody out there. jeb is pretty solid on pro-life issues. maybe he has some heresies immigration, but for some it's not that strong. then it's the common core matter. his struggle will be explaining that. as they say in politics when you're explaining you're losing. >> just an added challenge, you look at the volume of republican candidates out there a lot of alternatives for people, if they say i'm not 100% satisfied, there's a lot of other candidates. appreciate both of you joining us. we have an update for you on the transasia airways crash in taiwan whose dramatic final moments were captured by motorists on their dash cams. taiwanese officials say that 40 bodies have been recovered, which means the number of people still missing is down to three. 15 survivors in all were rescued from the plane. still ahead in the show she may be the favorite but hillary clinton still faces major roadblocks on her way to the white house. we will look at some of those challenges. next snow fell in the northeast while you were sleeping, and now it's heading towards new england. we'll go love toive to boston where people have had enough snow already. hello! i'm a kid. and us kids have an important message for our grown ups. three grams daily of beta-glucan... a soluable fiber from whole grain oat foods like cheerios can help lower cholesterol. and where can you find beta-glucan? in oats. and, they're yummy! i'm going back to being a kid now. thank you! how much money do you have in your pocket right now? i have $40 $21. could something that small make an impact on something as big as your retirement? i don't think so. well if you start putting that towards your retirement every week and let it grow over time, for twenty to thirty years that retirement challenge might not seem so big after all. ♪ ♪ that detergent was like half the price! and we'll have to use like double! maybe more! i'm going back to the store? yes you are. dish issues? get cascade complete. one pac cleans tough food better than 6 pacs of the bargain brand combined. cascade. now that's clean. curling up in bed with a favorite book is nice. but i think women would rather curl up with their favorite man. but here's the thing: about half of men over 40 have some degree of erectile dysfunction. well, viagra helps guys with ed get and keep an erection. and remember, you only take it when you need it. ask your doctor if your heart is healthy enough for sex. do not take viagra if you take nitrates for chest pain; it may cause an unsafe drop in blood pressure. side effects include headache, flushing, upset stomach and abnormal vision. to avoid long-term injury, seek immediate medical help for an erection lasting more than four hours. stop taking viagra and call your doctor right away if you experience a sudden decrease or loss in vision or hearing. ask your doctor about viagra. the future of the market is never clear. but at t. rowe price we can help guide your retirement savings. our experience is one reason 100% of our retirement funds beat their 10-year lipper averages. so wherever your long-term goals take you we can help you feel confident. request a prospectus or summary prospectus with investment information, risks, fees and expenses to read and consider carefully before investing. call us or your advisor. t. rowe price. invest with confidence. we'll get back to politics in a moment. first a story we seem to be covering every weekend lately. a major winter snowstorm. new england braces for its third storm in as many weeks. this one could bring as many as 20 inches of snow to boston and eastern and central massachusetts. that's where we find mike seidel live in boston. half of him joins us we can only see half of you in that snow bank. what can we expect out there? >> this is what is left from the previous two storms. nearly four feet in two weeks. another four inches overnight. the beginning of a long duration event. as i climb up to my mountain here on the corner of -- whoa, dartmouth street in copley square. they are still trucking the snow out to the snow farm where they melt it. we have another 12 18 inches of snow coming down between now and tomorrow morning. we will not have the kind of wind we had with previous storm. there will be some employeeblowing and drifting. 5 to 8 inches tonight. 5 to 8 inches on monday more for tuesday. 48 flights have been canceled in and out of logan today. ahead of the storm tomorrow, 60 plus flights have been canceled. these numbers will go up. even though there's no snow or little wintry weather right in new york city, there will be issues at the airport there. get ready to plow and dig out boston once again. heads up northeast, coldest weather of the season coming up later this week. it will be bone-chilling cold by friday and saturday. >> you are full of good news today. you are standing right now, basically, at the finish line of the boston marathon. >> there we go. >> two months they will be having a race there. >> yeah, april 20th. i predict by april 20th well most of this snow will have melted. let's hope so. >> the runners are hoping for that. mike thanks for that. still ahead, al franken is the only senator that we know of that can draw a map of the united states free hand. you have ever seen him do that trick? this morning we're drawing him into a conversation he's passionate about. and next hillary clinton is further ahead of the democratic field than anybody has been at this point in the race but she still faces some big hurdles. we'll look at those hurdles on the big board next. the real question that needs to be asked is "what is it that we can do that is impactful?" what the cloud enables is computing to empower cancer researchers. it used to take two weeks to sequence and analyze a genome; with the microsoft cloud we can analyze 100 per day. whatever i can do to help compute a cure for cancer, that's what i'd like to do. the exhilaration of a new engine. painstakingly engineered without compromise. to be more powerful... and, miraculously, unleash 46 mpg highway. an extravagance reserved for the privileged few. until now. hey josh! new jetta? yeah. introducing lots of new. the new volkswagen jetta tdi clean diesel. isn't it time for german engineering? can this decadent, fruit topped pastry... ...with indulgent streusel crumble, be from... fiber one. fiber one streusel. you show up. you stay up. you listen. you laugh. you worry. you do whatever it takes to take care of your family. and when it's time to plan for your family's future we're here for you. we're legalzoom, and for over 10 years we've helped families just like yours with wills and living trusts. so when you're ready start with us. doing the right thing has never been easier. legalzoom. legal help is here. ♪ stouffer's mac and cheese with real aged cheddar now in a convenient cup. new stouffer's mac cups. made for you to love. in the shadow of the old state capital, where lincoln once called on a house divided to stand together where common hopes and common dreams still live, i stand before you today to announce my candidacy for president of the united states of america. >> that was eight years ago this week barack obama announcing his candidacy for president. hillary clinton had been the overwhelming democratic favorite up until barack obama emerged. then he defeated her, huge upset, eight years later, hk hillary clinton coming into 2016 clearly interested in running. how well positioned is she this time versus 2008? when you look at the democratic side, she is much better positioned than she was heading into 2008. at this point eight years ago there wouldn't have been 0 points separating them we wouldn't have talk of hillary clinton running uncontested. hillary clinton in much much better shape. what about the general election? how is she against the possible republican candidates? these are the overall averages of national polls. she's 9 points up on bush 9 on chris christie about 10 points up on rand paul. these are the most commonly polled republicans. look at the swing states, new data. in pennsylvania not even close. almost 20 points over rand paul. double digits over everybody. look in ohio. always comes down to ohio. clinton comfortably ahead of the three most likely at least three of the biggest names on the republican side. florida, the same thing, with one exception. jeb bush his homestate, the two-turn governor he runs close to her there. the others do not. how durable is this? we're still a year and a half away from the actual election. how durable are leads like this at this point in the cycle? we thought we would look back quickly at the last three times. you come to the end of a two-term presidency. where do those races stand now? in 1988 at this point, the top democrat gary hart. running double digits above george w. bush. scandal knocked hart out of the race. two, george h.w. bush recovered well. he won by eight points. that was not a durable advantage for the democrats there. at this point in 1999 george w. bush was double digits ahead of al gore. george w. bush ended up winning, but that was a close election. gore came back to win the popular vote and lose the electoral college. in 200082008, you had mccain and giuliani against president obama. it does show you there is still plenty of room for movement here despite the clear early advantage for hillary clinton. still ahead in the show what does al franken think of comedian john oliver? we'll go over that. and has chris christie's week gone from bad to worse? s happens to your father. you're clean. you got that right! bam! just gotta check your bag. huh, charmin ultra strong. you're cleaner than i thought. charmin ultra strong cleans so much better it meets even his highest standards of clean. with a soft duraclean texture, charmin ultra strong is 4 times stronger. and you can use up to 4x less. are you good to go hun? cleaner than ever. rotorooter approved. charmin is clog-free or it's free. next. ♪♪ expected wait time: 55 minutes. your call is important to us. thank you for your patience. waiter! vo: in the nation, we know how it feels when you aren't treated like a priority. we do things differently. we'll take care of it. vo: we put members first... join the nation. thank you. ♪ nationwide is on your side ♪ ♪ turn around ♪ ♪ every now and then i get a little bit hungry ♪ ♪ and there's nothing good around ♪ ♪ turn around, barry ♪ ♪ i finally found the right snack ♪ [ female announcer ] fiber one. ♪ they lived. ♪ they lived. ♪ they lived. ♪ (dad) we lived... thanks to our subaru. ♪ (announcer) love. it's what makes a subaru a subaru. do you have something for pain? i have bayer aspirin. i'm not having a heart attack, it's my back. i mean bayer back & body. it works great for pain. bayer back & body provides effective relief for your tough pain. better? yeah...thanks for the tip! chris christie's very bad week. thanks for staying with us on what is a very busy sunday morning. lots still to get to in the hour including why chris christie must be glad this week is finally over and hoping next week goes differently. also, rick santorum is opening up about his daughter's disability. and former vermont governor and former presidential candidate howard dean will join us to talk about obamacare. and senator al franken will be on the show to share his thoughts on an important andissue for him. we begin with chris christie. his visit to england this week was supposed to abbe a big image boosting trip abroad. it started with a thud. >> there's a debate going on in the united states a measles outbreak that's been caused in part by people not vaccinating their kids. do you think americans should vaccinate their kids? >> all i can say is we vaccinate ours. that's the best opinion i can give you. it's much more important when you think as a parent than what you think as a public official. that's what we do. i also understand parents need to have a measure of choice in things. that's the balance has the government has to decide. >> that set off a firestorm of controversy with even many republicans blasting christie over his vaccine comments. that was just the start of what was the most trying week of christie's national political year. the next day after that the "new york times" documented in detail christie's taste for expensive travel while others pay the bill. including a private jet paid for by sheldon adelson, $30,000 in luxury hotel rooms paid for by the king of jordan. then came the new that's feds subpoenaed flight records about a special route created by united airlines for a top christie appointee. that was followed by a report that the feds interviewed an excounty prosecutor who claims he was fired by the christie administration for prosecuting an ally of the governor's. now it may be tough for him to raise cash for his political stretch. joining me to assess the damage is casey hunt gop strategist, david avella and kate zurniki. kate, let's go back to your article and as we say, there was so much this week. so there's two issues here in terms of your reporting. one is conflicts or potential conflicts raised by the travel and the sort of gifts he's taking. and just the appearance of this. >> the first thing, for instance, the adelson flight the casino magnet who was opposing an internet gambling bill that christie was facing. so it's a gift the flight was gift to chris christie. that greats the appearance of impropriety. the king of jordan paying for a weekend in jordan. $30,000 in hotel rooms. he's flown on the plane of woody johnson, the owner of the jets. has a lot of business before new jersey. it's the appearance. christie kriswas dinged by the attorney general for spending too much on hotel rooms. you would think you would get the message that this looks bad and try to curb that. >> the conflict issue aside, just the appearance for a governor and for a politician whose image is so dependent on being the regular guy, the no-frills guy, it seems that stories like this, no politician wants a story like this but it's particularly damage ing toing to somebody. >> that's the rub. he's walking the jersey boardwalk, has a swagger, is kind of like -- he's selling himself as an every-man. and this contradicts that. i had one well-placed republican source say that this sets him up to be in a difficult position if he was to run against hillary clinton. republicans feel like they have arguments against her that involve her lifestyle. her comment that she hasn't driven since the 1990s. the fact that she and her husband are living a life at this point that other americans don't live. whoever the republican nominee is will want to use that avenue of argument. and if christie enjoys all the finer things in life that doesn't serve him well even in a general election. >> i could see that debate right now. christie say, hillary, you said you were dead broke. hillary says you took free hotel from the king of jordan. >> how do republicans think about this? as we said earlier, there's so many options for republicans. do they look at stories like this and say he's not worth the trouble? >> every person who tries to step on the national stage has a few days where it's not the message they want to get out. the reaction we need to see is how does he move on from here? let's keep in mind bill clinton was alleged by multiple women to be a sexual harasserment he became president of the united states. in my view the worst thing chris christie has done so far as a life long redskin fan is hug jerry jones. >> there is a federal investigation around the christie administration at this point. some would say it's more serious than that. that is sort of the question here. we talk about the other investigations that are swirling. this issue we raised about the county prosecutor nobody is quite sure how serious that one is. there was the other issue this week of david sampson, the former port authority clairemanhairman appointed by chris chris. the airline rerouted flights, this federal investigation is expanding from where it started. >> that's definitely true. there have been a number of points where we have been able to say that. i think the prosecutor, you have to take that with a grain of salt. the u.s. attorney's office will talk to a lot of people. they sent him a letter in june now talking to him in february or january. i don't think that's necessarily a sign that this investigation into the original bridge gate scandal is including that. but certainly the port authority, the sampson route indicates that there's a lot going on there. >> when you're explaining you're losing. governor christie has to get the narrative back to where he wants it to be. the longer he has to explain these allegations that have come up, these inquiries that have come up, he's not talking about the message he wants to talk about. >> he is at the mercy of these forces that are just more powerful than him at this point. like a federal prosecutor. it's tough to reclaim if you're christie's camp. it's tough to grab control of the narrative what are you hearing from people around chris christie about how -- how you can conduct a presidential campaign, how you can win over all these big donors how you can get pemople to say i will stand with you, not jeb bush? thefrnlgt >> they watched how the bridgegate scandal unfolded how people said he would be dead in the water after that. at this point he still isn't. that doesn't mean they don't acknowledge privately these are some issues. you were talking about how to drive your own message. that's something that was missing from his trip abroad. they sold that trip as here is governor christie standing on a stage bigger than the one he has at home in new jersey. it was a chance for him to outline his views for the world. when it got down to it he didn't have a message that he was trying to push while over there. yes, vaccines sidelined the trip a bit. he got derailed there. that doesn't mean he wouldn't have been able to pull it back into a place he wanted to go. talk about security policy ukraine. so many issues in the world today are related to the mrn american relationship with great britain. i tried to ask him a question about nato what that relationship should be. he didn't want to answer it. another reporter asked him about isis we had some terrible news lately, that's when he snapped what do you understand about no questions? assuming that, yes, he got pushed off a narrative, my question was what was the narrative that he was originally trying to push that he got pushed off of? they didn't seem to have one. >> my observation of christie this is a guy who believes very much in his ability, the power of his personality, maybe to walk into a room without a plan just to hold court with the press, hold court even with a hostile crowd and to win them over with his charm and the power of his personality. in a lot of ways that's the story of his career. he's done that an awful lot. i wonder now maybe he's stepping into new waters where you have to have more planning, preparation and infrastructure around you. >> that's the case. the administration f there's a theme or undercurrent there, they believe he can get out of anything. he has. he has been able to explain a lot. now these things are coming closer together. and so it's just harder to keep up with it all. >> can he win the nomination still? >>. >> could still win the nomination. anything could happen right? he's going to have to get the message to where he wants. i will say this, republican candidates need to goquit going to london. >> casey no more trips to london for you, i guess. >> scott walker is going next week. >> all right. so much for that. we want to bring you up to date on one of the big developing stories overnight. you may have heard about this. olympian and tv reality personality bruce jenner was behind the wheel in a deadly car accident yesterday afternoon in california. he was driving when according to eyewitnesss, his suv rear-ended a car in front of him, sent it into oncoming traffic. police say it does not appear the paparazzi were the cause of the wreck, but they do note the cause is under investigation. jenner has been in the spotlight lately as reports swirl that he's transitioning to a female. still ahead, we'll return to politics including finding out what senator al franken thinks about another "saturday night live" alum who wants to run for office. and next the must-read article of the morning. stay with us for that. want to know a secret? i wasn't always a redhead. you'd never know it though because it's nice'n easy color so natural looking it's clairol's #1 authentic color that's always true to you. so shift a shade and still look like your most amazing you. ♪ (playful growl) vo: because every moment matters, so does your network. verizon. this valentine's day get $100 off a swarovski crystal battery cover or the samsung gear s. perfect with a new samsung galaxy note 4 for $0 down with edge. plus, get a $100 bill credit for each smartphone you switch. get our best deals (dog barks) for the ones you love (dog barks) this valentine's day. (dog barks) verizon. how much money do you have in your pocket right now? i have $40 $21. could something that small make an impact on something as big as your retirement? i don't think so. well if you start putting that towards your retirement every week and let it grow over time, for twenty to thirty years that retirement challenge might not seem so big after all. ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] take zzzquil and sleep like... the kids went to nana's house... for the whole weekend! [ snoring ] [ male announcer ] zzzquil, the non habit forming sleep aid that helps you sleep easily and wake refreshed. because sleep is a beautiful thing. what's that thing? i moved our old security system out here to see if it could monitor the front yard. why don't you switch to xfinity home? i get live video monitoring and 24/7 professional monitoring that i can arm and disarm from anywhere. hear ye! the awkward teenage one has arrived!!!! don't be old fashioned. xfinity customers add xfinity home for $29.95 a month for 12 months. plus for a limited time, get a free security camera call 1800 xfinity or visit comcast.com/xfinityhome. i decided that the best thing i could do was to treat her differently, to not love her.her like i did, because it wouldn't hurt as much. if i lost her. >> that's rick santorum talking about the struggle he went through after his severely disabled youngest child was born it was six weeks before the iowa caucuses, that's as iowa conservatives were looking for an alternative to mitt romney. santorum did win the iowa caucuses over romney in an upset in 2012. that was a huge moment for rick santorum, not because he was running for president at the time, but because his daughter bella, was someone he never really talked about in public before. starting then that all began to change. 3 1/2 years later, rick santorum his wife and oldest daughter have collaborated on a book. the santorums tell the "washington post" it's intended as a guide for other families like them. the kind of handbook they wish they had after bella was born. unconventional it's topic may be, it coincides with candidate book release season. that's the period of time every four years when would-be presidential contenders embark on book tours that more often than not take them to key swing states. karen, i encourage everybody to read this. this is a really fascinating article. i can't do it justice in summarizing it here. maybe you can tell us first of all about his 6-year-old daughter bella, and what her condition is and what she is suffering from. >> well it is an extra 18th chromosome in every single cell of her body. it's called trisomy 18, it's a condition that doctors call incompatible with life. half of the children born with this condition don't survive more than a few hours. more than 90% of them die within the first year. so -- when rick santorum talked about that in iowa his inability to love this child the way he did his other six, it was -- the room there was silent, but one place that did not go over well was in virginia, where his wife was absolutely furious with him because, first of all, that they had agreed not to talk about this. second of all, that he had done it, in what she had regarded as a hurtful way. as they write this book they write it in their two different voices. you see inside the marriage. as of last week, when we interviewed the santorums, rick santorum had not been able to bring himself even yet to read all of karen santorum's chapters. that's how open it is. as a campaign season book this is an unconventional book. >> it's fascinating. we played the clip at the start of the segment from november of 2011. that's the first time he talked publicly. we saw this as observers of politics we thought, well crudely, purely from a political perspective f you're trying to go after the culturally conservative vote and talking about a personal story that affirms your commitment against abortion, politically effective moment, but we're seeing that moment caused a real trouble in this marriage. >> it did, because basically the santorums who are deeply devout catholics, saw this as god's will. but they had two different views of what god's will was. karen santorum thought that god had put a challenge in front of them. it was their job to overcome that challenge, to do everything they could. rick santorum thought, you know it was too make their peace with how ever this turned out. so from the outset there's a really remarkable scene where they have ordered a crib as they are building the crib rick santorum tells his oldest daughter, by the way, be sure to save the box because bella may, we don't know how long we will have her and we may need to take this back to the store. he does not portray himself here as you know the hero of the tale. you know this again, to this day this child is in a very fragile state. you know the odds remain very very much against them. >> wow. quickly, do they have any concern as we say, this is the typical candidate book release season. do they have any concern that this would -- people will think they're trying to capitalize politically on their situation? >> i can certainly -- i can tell you their strategists are sensitive to this. and, again, he actually did a more kind of conventional campaign kind of book. my ten-point plan. my view for america last year. i really do -- as cynical as we get, i think this is a very different kind of book. and a very raw book. >> certainly from your reporting, that's what it sounds like. my thanks to karen tumulty from the "washington post.." still ahead, senator al franken will join us about the issues he's fighting for on capitol hill. and next another major winter storm heading to new england. we'll go live to maine. how much more snow will they get. >> details on the other side of the break. the setting is perfect. but then erectile dysfunction happens again. you know what? plenty of guys have this issue not just getting an erection but keeping it. well, viagra helps guys with ed get and keep an erection. ask your doctor if your heart is healthy enough for sex. do not take viagra if you take nitrates for chest pain; it may cause an unsafe drop in blood pressure. side effects include headache, flushing, upset stomach and abnormal vision. to avoid long-term injury, seek immediate medical help for an erection lasting more than four hours. stop taking viagra and call your doctor right away if you experience a sudden decrease or loss in vision or hearing. ask your doctor if... ...viagra is right for you. good job! still running in the morning? yeah. getting your vegetables every day? when i can. [ bop ] [ male announcer ] could've had a v8. two full servings of vegetables for only 50 delicious calories. there comes a time in everyone's life when you want more. like a new meticulously engineered german sedan. finely crafted. exactingly precise. desire for such things often outpaces one's means. until now. hey matt, new jetta? yeah. introducing lots of new. the new volkswagen jetta. isn't it time for german engineering? lilly. she pretty much lives in her favorite princess dress. but once a week i let her play sheriff so i can wash it. i use tide to get out those week old stains and downy to get it fresh and soft. you are free to go. tide and downy together. the world is filled with air. but for people with copd sometimes breathing air can be difficult. if you have copd, ask your doctor about once-daily anoro ellipta. it helps people with copd breathe better for a full 24hours. anoro ellipta is the first fda-approved product containing two long-acting bronchodilators in one inhaler. anoro is not for asthma. anoro contains a type of medicine that increases risk of death in people with asthma. it is not known if this risk is increased in copd. anoro won't replace rescue inhalers for sudden copd symptoms and should not be used more than once a day. tell your doctor if you have a heart condition, or high blood pressure. tell your doctor if you have glaucoma, prostate or bladder problems, or problems passing urine as anoro may make these problems worse. call your doctor right away if you have worsened breathing chest pain, swelling of your mouth or tongue, problems urinating or eye problems including vision changes or eye pain while taking anoro. nothing can reverse copd. the world is filled with air and anoro is helping people with copd breath air better. get your first prescription free at anoro.com. some sad, breaking news. we are just learning about this morning. the associated press reporting that university of north carolina basketball coach dean smith has died at the age of 3. he was the unc coach from 1961 to 1997 when he retired in 1997 he did so as the all-time winningest coach in ncaa men's basketball history. he has since been passed as the winningest coach by mike krzyzewski at duke. smith won two national championships in those 36 years, in 1982 when his team was led by a freshman named michael jordan. the famous four corners offense against georgetown. in 1993 that was the chris webber game. chris webber of michigan called a time out his team didn't have helping to give dean smith his second national championship. countless acc championships, a number of final four appearance. dean smith was also instrumental in integrating the game of basketball in north carolina and in the south. den smith was 83 years old. shifting gears we want to get up to speed on that snow that's begun to fall in parts of new england. another winter storm that could dump a foot of snow or more on parts of that battered region that's been hit so hard the past few years. keith carson joins us live from portland maine. i don't see snow there, but i guess you're expecting a lot. >> it did snow from midnight through this morning, we had a wave last night, another this evening and the strongest tomorrow morning. the problem in portland is also the same problem as down into boston, where do we put the snow? these cities are good at removing snow the plow trucks are going already. in an urban environment, believe it or not portland is a compact city, there's nowhere to put all of this snow. they're trying to get dump trucks hall it out of the city. the story with the storm is not that it's going to be a blizzard, but they'll pick up another foot and a half of snow over the next day, two days that will add to the problem they already have down here. i was talking to somebody down the street they were in their office and heard this crashing sound coming down the street. they looked out the window it was a struck that had taken off every window on a car that was going down the street because the street had become so narrow. it's 11 degrees now. that's probably the high temperature for the day. temperatures dropping through the rest of the day into the evening. >> keith carson wearing the l.l. bean jacket that's a requirement up will. up next my panel are back. and obamacare, the supreme court could be weighing in on that once again. we will talk with that with former governor howard dean. progresso! i can't believe i'm eating bacon and rich creamy cheese before my sister's wedding well it's only 100 calories, so you'll be ready for that dress uh-huh... you don't love the dress? i love my sister... 40 flavors. 100 calories or less. ♪ [epic music] ♪ introducing aleve pm... the pm pain reliever. that dares to work all the way until... [birds chirping] the am. new aleve pm. it's the first to combine a safe sleep aid plus the 12 hour strength of aleve. for pain relief that can last all the way until morning. new aleve pm, for a better am. ♪ stouffer's mac and cheese with real aged cheddar now in a convenient cup. new stouffer's mac cups. made for you to love. [ music an the affordable care act was supposedly settled as a matter of law by the supreme court back in 2012. the court is soon going to hear another challenge to obamacare, one that does have the potential to severely cripple barack obama's biggest achievement as president, nor for that matter r republicans letting up on their push to repeal it. this past week three republican lawmakers released ideas for replacing the law. senators orrin hatch and richard burr and fred upton had things like you couldn't be denied coverage because of pre-existing conditions, but if you get insurance through your work, the value of that insurance exceeds a certain level, you would have to pay an income tax on that sum. this is just a framework that comes five full years after the affordable care act was first passed what is the future for obamacare, could the supreme court, would the supreme court actually deal it a fatal blow this year? will republicans ever build enough support to gut it themselves or will they eventually give up the fight? joining me now is former governor and doctor howard dean, and david frum senior editor with the atlantic. howard dean i'll ask but this republican alternative. for years we have been repeal and replace. now here is the replace. >> the question is is the bill universal. does everybody has health care? obamacare doesn't do that this does it worse. the key insurance reforms in obamacare sound like upton and his crew are proposing that is community rating and guaranteed issue. we need to see the fine print. this is not enough. this can't be taken seriously. but it is a step forward for any republican to propose anything to do seriously to deal with health care. >> david, when you look at this plan what does it address? what does it provide and do that obamacare doesn't? >> what the plan does it takes as its priority maximizing individual choice by removing the mandate. for many republicans that is the thing. i think that's the wrong test, the wrong thing for republicans to focus on it. seems to me the reforms the republicans should be focusing on is greater cost control to free up more money for other things, i would rather see it go to defense than health care. >> and make sure the financing mek mechanism is less crushing. i have been advocating since 2009 the republicans should do this. the romney care bits are good. the obamacare bits are more trouble troublesome. it's not going to be repealed or struck down by the supreme court. it's a fact. but it doesn't work. it's financed in ways that don't work and are suppressive of business. fix the financing mechanism give states more leeway and focus on cost control. but stop a fight that is only allowing the problems in the system to get worse while you fight these battles that will never be won. >> do you agree with the idea that the supreme court will not strike this down? they have taken the case. they will have another ruling on it. >> the fact they have taken the case, the four justices who voted against it last time have taken it. it's a tough case for john roberts. >> he has taken a lot of heat. >> i agree with david, if they were -- if the supreme court were to be taken seriously, which i can't always take them they would vote this down. why? because this is really amounted to essentially a clerical error, and the will of congress is clear that they did, in fact intend the subsidies to be for the national -- >> supreme courts just don't strike down big social welfare spending programs. they didn't strike down social security in the 1930s. it's too scary. it's too much like acting like a super legislature. for the same reasons of institutional self preservation that motivated john roberts on the last case, i can't see it. i'm saying it on television watch me be completely wrong. >> let me make one point that is critical which neither side has been willing to do what's driving the health care expenditures in this country and has for 50 years, we use a fee for service medical system. you keep paying me to do as much as i can whether you need it or not. that's never going to work. we are smart down e. the romney forces were about buying insurance. if market forces are about buying health care, they fail. >> you are both talk about weighing to improve the law within the existing framework. david, you've been saying this for a few years. republicans this week had another repeal vote. is there a point where you can see coming in the near future that they stop doing this? >> eventually look eventually parties change. and i think that's going to happen here. i was hoping we could learn faster. we are choosing to learn slower. this is a fact. and it's a fact. one of the things i regret a lot of concessions that could have been had for the asking in 2009 will have to be achieved through blood, sweat and tears, especially changing the way it's financed. it's financed with an invisible tax on young people through the insurance mechanism and with an explicit tax on savers and high income people. this should be paid by price restraint. >> i think back to medicare 50 years ago, lbj was obsessed with getting bye getting bipartisan support, because you can put the debate aside more easily. of course politics are much different now. >> and lyndon johnson is a much better arm twister than barack obama. >> thanks to howard dean and david frum. he's been a comedian radio host and now united states senator. al franken will join us to talk about all that and more. and more on the passing we're just learning about this morning of former north carolina basketball coach, dean smith. sports writer john feinstein joins me on his legacy next. occasionally. but staying well... physically, financially, emotionally... is hard on your own. so cigna's got your back and your knees 24/7. cigna's there to answer your questions. or when you need some coaching. in sickness and in health, cigna's there, helping you to get well and stay well. that's having a partner, who's with you all the way. cigna. i have a cold with terrible chest congestion. better take something. theraflu severe cold doesn't treat chest congestion. really? new alka-seltzer plus day powder rushes relief to your worst cold symptoms plus chest congestion. oh, what a relief it is. here we go! can this decadent, fruit topped pastry... ...with indulgent streusel crumble, be from... fiber one. fiber one streusel. how much money do you have in your pocket right now? i have $40 $21. could something that small make an impact on something as big as your retirement? i don't think so. well if you start putting that towards your retirement every week and let it grow over time, for twenty to thirty years that retirement challenge might not seem so big after all. ♪ ♪ toenail fungus? don't hide it... tackle it with new fda-approved jublia! jublia is a prescription medicine proven to treat toenail fungus. use jublia as instructed by your doctor. once applied jublia gets to the site of infection by going under, around and through the nail. most common side effects include ingrown toenail, application-site redness itching, swelling, burning or stinging, blisters, and pain. tackle it! ask your doctor now if new jublia is right for you. they're still after me. get to the terminal across town. are all the green lights you? no. it's called grid iq. the 4:51 is leaving at 4:51. ♪ they cut the power. it'll fix itself. power's back on. quick thinking traffic lights and self correcting power grids make the world predictable. thrillingly predictable. university of north carolina now confirming that their legendary basketball coach dean smith has passed away at the age of 83. sports columnist john feinstein of the "washington post" joins us now. he got to watch the great dean smith in action as a student at rival duke university. john, thanks for joining us. we talked about, in terms of wins and losses final fours, acc championships, the legacy clear when it come stoss to dean smith, but also a legacy and a forward thinking attitude and approaches. >> you're right about that. i always said the least significant smith about dean smith were the 879 wins. he was actually involved in desegregating restaurants in chapel hill before he became head coach at north carolina when he was an assistant coach. he walked into a segregated restaurant with a black member of his church and basically dared management not to serve them. obviously in chapel hill anybody who worked at north carolina was a significant person. and the management chose to serve him. and his friend. and that was the beginning of desegregation in chapel hill. the most significant thing about that might be that he never wanted to talk about that. he didn't think that was something you should brag about. his close friend john thompson former georgetown coach told me once that dean had never once brought it up to him and he would have been surprised if he had. that wasn't who dean smith was. >> talk about him, too, if you would, as a coach. again, when you look at 36 years and every year his team is winning 25 30 games, contending for national championships a pipeline in many cases to the nba. how did he build a program that elite that consistently? >> he had two things about him, extraordinary relationships with his players. you will hear an outpouring in the next few days from players who were stars, went to the nba, to players who were walk-ones, totally insignificant in terms of wins and losses. he was so intensely loyal to every one of them. he was a great communicator with the kids he coached. beyond that he was an innovator. a lot of things we see in college basketball today in terms of the way teams run offense, defense, little things like players giving tired signs to the bench to come out, with all dean smith innovations. one of the most significant ones was he started the concept of senior day which is now a big deal, every school brings in parents, sisters, cousins, aunts to honor seniors on the last day they play a home game. that was never done until dean smith started it at north carolina. >> you talk about how humble and modest he is. i wonder when he passed -- when he got the record, his last year as a coach for most wins ever 879, he has since been passed by several others when he got that record, the man he supplanted was adolf rupp he wouldn't recruit and play black players for all of his career. did that mean something special for dean smith that it was adolf rupp that he was passing 12346789. >> i think it did. he never wanted to talk much about the record. didn't want it to be a big deal. the day he broke the record in an ncaa tournament game at winston-salem he was stunned by the number of ex players who had flown in to be there that day. terry hollins, the virginia coach, one of his biggest rivals was running the venue for the ncaa that day. he left instructions with the security people that any ex-north carolina player who was there was to be allowed into the normally off-limits area so they could see their old coach and celebrate with him. that meant more to dean smith than the actual number of passing adolph rupp. >> john feinstein, written a lot about basketball and the acc, from the "washington post," joining us. appreciate that. >> my pleasure. up next, al franken may not be the only "saturday night live" alum on capitol hill at least if another has his way. details after this. i'm out of the office right now, but will get back to you just as soon as i possibly can. your call is important to me. join princess cruises for exclusive discovery at sea experiences. enjoy cruises from $499 during our 50th anniversary sale. call your travel consultant or 1-800-princess. princess cruises. come back new. many people clean their dentures with toothpaste or plain water. and even though their dentures look clean, in reality they're not. if a denture were to be put under a microscope we can see all the bacteria that still exists on the denture and that bacteria multiplies very rapidly. that's why dentists recommend cleaning with polident everyday. polident's unique micro clean formula works in just 3 minutes, killing 99.99% of odor causing bacteria. for a cleaner, fresher brighter denture everyday. alright, so this tylenol arthritis lasts 8 hours, but aleve can last 12 hours... and aleve is proven to work better on pain than tylenol arthritis. so why am i still thinking about this? how are you? aleve, proven better on pain. ring ring! progresso! i can't believe i'm eating bacon and rich creamy cheese before my sister's wedding well it's only 100 calories, so you'll be ready for that dress uh-huh... you don't love the dress? i love my sister... 40 flavors. 100 calories or less. ♪ okay, you ready to go? i gotta go dad! okay! let's go go, go, go... woah! go right, go left, go left stop! now go... (shouting) let's go!! i gotta go! can i go? yup! you can go. (beeping alert) woah! there you go! way to go! lets go buddy, let's go! anncr: the ford fusion. we go further, so you can. maybe it's because he was a long-time writer and a star on "saturday night live" that al franken has proven himself to be all business as a united states senator. recently minnesota democrat has taken on uber for its privacy practices, called for all steel used in the keystone pipeline to be made in america and commended the chairman of the federal communications commission for preserving open internet rules, commonly known as net neutrality. comcast, our parent company here, has a vested interest in that debate over net neutrality. in an interview that we taped on friday, senator franken joined me to talk about why he feels net neutrality is so important. senator al franken joins us now from washington. thanks for taking a few minutes. i'll start with the hardest question i guess. net neutrality what does that mean? >> that means treating all content on the internet neutrally. what that means is all content, whether it's that of a huge conglomerate or a blogger will get to the user of the content the the consumer at the same speed. so, i'll give you a good example of why this is necessary for innovation. before youtube, there was a thing called google video. and it wasn't very good. the guys who created youtube or three guys who did it over a pizzeria in san mateo, california. and because their product was carried over the internet at the same speed as google video, people were -- got to sample it. they preferred it. and a few years later they sold youtube to google for $1.6 billion. because of net neutrality we have all this amazing info investigation on the internet in free speech and what we saw the other day, fcc chair wheeler wheeler's announcement about preserving net neutrality through title 2 it was a victory for everyone other than the isps. >> let's look at that. >> because all the growth that we've had on the internet has happened under net neutrality. we've seen this tremendous growth and innovation under net neutrality. what this would do is simply -- consumers would pay more the isps would just get more profit. you can only build so many comcast towers in philadelphia. they're doing fine. they're doing fine. this was not just lefties. this was a coalition of businesses. for example, let me just -- ford visa u.p.s. and bank of america formed this group to protect net neutrality. every retailer with an online cat line everybody manufacturer, every insurance company with online claims processing every bank offering online accounting management every company with a website, every business interacting with customers is dependent upon an open internet. we are preserves the open internet which we have seen this tremendous growth of the internet internet, this tremendous gdp value. mckenzie did a report a few years ago saying about a quarter of new gdp growth is about the internet. all of that has happened under net neutrality and we're going to preserve that. >> you mentioned a minute ago the news this week is the chairman of the federal chairman communication basically saying he would seek to have the internet service bakley reclassified as utility and that they could then regulate so obviously a big victory for your side there. i'm curious about the process. it seems a key moment of all people john oliver the comedian on his hbo show that shined the light on the issue and there was like 4 million calls, e-mails or correspond with the fc -- >> we need you to get out there, and for once in your lives focus your indiscriminate rage in a useful direction. >> as something who cares about this issue, it's not gotten a lot of attention, how do you think a difference john oliver made? >> i think it was very helpful, it called a lot of attention to the issue. ironically i think what did this is wheeler early last year saying he was considering pay prioritization, in other words a fast lane/slow lane. that's what prompted these 4 million comments to the fcc more than twice as many comments on any issue in the history of the fcc, and i think wheeler himself a. putting it out there, something antithey cal to net neutrality, which is paid authorization, saw the light and came down where he came down. that's a great victory for everybody. >> i do want to ask you, i know you want a few months ago in terms of nur year you're ready for hillary, a lot of talk about a wide-open race but jeb bush clearly interested in running, two sort of dynasties. i'm just cureual what you think a bush/clinton matchup would look like. >> i think the republican party will take care of itself. i have never hellry for about 20 years. i think at this time in american history, she is the most qualified person to be the president. i hope she runs. >> and once other thing, i couldn't resist asking you this but gary kroeger, another snl alum who apparently will be running for congress in iowa. he told "the national journal" that al franken is the template how it's done. he said he wants to get your advice. what advice would you give him? >> well that you're running for a job that is a very different job from being a comedian but a lot of young people ask how do you become a senator? i say do comedy for four years, and then run for the senate. so far that has worked every time. >> he also said he wants to talk to you at the snl reunion. >> yes. are you going to be there? >> i'm going to be there. i'll talk to him about it then. a lot of people ask me you know, is being in the senate as much fun as "saturday night live"? and of course it isn't as much fun, but it's the best job i've ever had, because you get to do things. it's incredibly satisfies job, and i'm very glad i did this. >> all right. senator al franken, democrat of minnesota, thanks for the time. we appreciate it. >> you bet, steve. all right. that sn the l reunion is a week away. i want to thank this morning's manual. i didn't do that earlier because of the breaking news up next melissa harris-perry that's coming up next. have a great sunday. tonight, every dish came out of the cupboard. literally. can this mess be conquered by a little bit of dawn ultra? yes. one bottle has the grease cleaning power of two bottles of this bargain brand. dawn, it's amazing what a drop can do. if you're running a business legalzoom has your back. over the last 10 years we've helped one million business owners get started. visit legalzoom today for the legal help you need to start and run your business. legalzoom. legal help is here. ♪ welcome to the most social car we've ever designed. the all-new nissan murano. nissan. innovation that excites. ♪ ♪ ♪ "here i am. rock you like a hurricane." ♪ fiber one now makes cookies. find them in the cookie aisle. curling up in bed with a favorite book is nice. but i think women would rather curl up with their favorite man. but here's the thing: about half of men over 40 have some degree of erectile dysfunction. well, viagra helps guys with ed get and keep an erection. and remember, you only take it when you need it. ask your doctor if your heart is healthy enough for sex. do not take viagra if you take nitrates for chest pain; it may cause an unsafe drop in blood pressure. side effects include headache, flushing, upset stomach and abnormal vision. to avoid long-term injury, seek immediate medical help for an erection lasting more than four hours. stop taking viagra and call your doctor right away if you experience a sudden decrease or loss in vision or hearing. ask your doctor about viagra. this morning my question -- is iggy azalea a hip-hop artist? and my one on one with attorney general eric holder. first, responding to the horrors of isis.

Related Keywords

Vermont , United States , Turkey , Minnesota , California , Syria , Washington , District Of Columbia , Duke University , North Carolina , Des Moines , Iowa , Reunion , Ukraine , Massachusetts , Tehran , Iran , Hollywood , Jersey , New York , Japan , Germany , Philadelphia , Pennsylvania , Florida , Boston , Virginia , Taiwan , Gaza Strip , Chapel Hill , Michigan , Jordan , London , City Of , United Kingdom , Copley Square , Maine , Iraq , New Jersey , Israel , Ohio , Capitol Hill , Americans , America , Jordanians , Britain , Israelis , German , Syrian , Jordanian , Israeli , Japanese , American , Taiwanese , Terri Schiavo , Scott Walker , Jack Kemp , John Oliver , Subaru A , Nissan Murano , Elizabeth Warren , Nancy Pelosi , Chris Webber , Bush Clinton , Joe Biden , John Feinstein , Sunni Muslim , Netanyahu Obama , David Ignatius , Karen Santorum , Richard Burr , Chris Christie , Gary Kroeger , Chris , Al Qaeda , Mike Seidel , Al Franken , John Boehner , Rick Santorum , Sheldon Adelson , Benjamin Netanyahu , Al Gore , Keith Carson , Gary Hart , Bernie Sanders , David Sampson , Terry Hollins , Lyndon Johnson , Wheeler , Adolf Rupp , Hk Hillary Clinton , John Roberts , Melissa Harris Perry , Jerry Jones , Los Angeles , Jeb Bush , Lowe Directv , John Thompson , Kayla Mueller , Brian Williams , Harry Reid , Lester Holt , Jack Jacobs , Bruce Jenner , Barack Obama , George W Bush , Stouffer Mac , Adolph Rupp , Fred Upton , David Avella , James Clyburn , Hillary Clinton ,