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iraq and afghanistan combined. tens of thousands of national guardsmen are assisting the secret service with preinauguration security. the capitol is surrounded by nine-foot fencing and barbed wire. meanwhile, we're continuing to learn more about a breaking story tonight. yesterday a virginia man was arrested at a security checkpoint near the capitol. he had an inauguration pass that is being described as unauthorized. also an unregistered gun and more than 500 rounds of ammunition. we'll have more on that in just a moment. this week donald trump became the first president to be impeached twice. some of his congressional allies may well play a role in defending him during his next senate trial. the details are still in the works, but his team could include ohio congressman jim jordan and florida congressman matt gaetz. we'll explore the constitutional issues at question in his upcoming trial. and we'll answer some of your questions as well. let's begin with the latest on that man arrested near the capitol. nbc's vaughn hillyard is here in washington with more on that. vaughn, tell us what we know right now. >> reporter: joshua, this was a young man who was stopped at a security checkpoint, at which we're told that he showed a noncredentialed government i.d. of course it was not an inauguration-authorized pass to get through. but that is where law enforcement ultimately arrested and charged the man because he was in possession of an unlicensed firearm with 500 rounds of ammunition. that gentleman has since been released and has told authorities that he was working in private security here. but i think what this incident speaks to is the security apparatus that has been built up around the capitol. it was just ten days ago that an insurrection took place in which there were fatal flaws made by law enforcement in the protection of not only the u.s. capitol infrastructure but also the lives that were at risk and ultimately, multiple individuals died at the scene of the u.s. capitol. now, just fast forward, we're only four days away now from inauguration day. the biden team still says that the president-elect intends to take the oath of office outside, on the west front of the u.s. capitol. we should note the national mall grounds will be closed and a perimeter has been set up here around the greater d.c. area. this is as far as the general public can get to the u.s. capitol right here. but what you see is more than 9,500 national guardsmen already on site. the department of defense says that number could reach 25,000 by this wednesday. you have local law enforcement agencies working with federal agencies. you have barriers that have been set up. if one were to take a walk down washington streets here during the day, it is essentially a ghost town. and that is why that arrest of that individual is notable, because it was u.s. capitol police sending the signal that an individual, we still do not know the extent to which this individual posed a threat, but at this time it is seeming to suggest that it was just an individual with an unlicensed firearm and ammunition. but those in that sort of situation should be wary about coming into washington, d.c. right now. >> it is very quiet in the streets around here. the most traffic that i saw on the streets nearby was just locals on their bicycles coming to take pictures of the cordons and then move on. thank you, vaughn. that's nbc's vaughn hillyard starting us off here in washington. "the washington post" is reporting that three days before the capitol riot, the u.s. capitol police had intelligence warning of a violent scenario. the intel said that congress could be the target of angry mobs of trump supporters. let's continue now with carol leonnig, a political investigative reporter for the "washington post." she's co-author of the book "a very stable genius: donald j. trump's testing of america." and she is an msnbc contributor. carol, it's good to see you. i wonder if we could start with i think the obvious question that everybody seems to be asking right now. actually, two obvious questions. one, were the capitol police just flat out incompetent in this? and two, does this support the idea that someone on the inside helped the rioters on the outside get in? could you take on those two questions first? >> i think that joshua, chief sund, the former capitol police chief who was on watch the day this all unfolded in such a tragic way, four deaths that day, a woman shot, police officer killed, others -- dozens of police officers injured, one who had a mild heart attack trying to fend everyone off, i think that chief would tell you if he were with you tonight it was a absolute colossal failure. now, he would also say, and many other of my sources say this too, that they tried to do something a little different. they were worried about the size of the protests this day. of the three protests that were pro-trump maga rallies, essentially, over the last few weeks, this was the one that was supposed to be the biggest. and the capitol police decided that they would bring in emergency national guard, or at least the chief thought that's what he would do. but his bosses, who are political operatives, sergeants at arms who answer to the leadership of the house and the senate, weren't comfortable with this idea of putting the national guard on emergency standby. and that proved to be a fatal flaw, a fatal failure, because if those national guard had been on deck on wednesday as the chief requested, this could have played out very differently. they could have held this group at bay until potentially reinforcements arrived. but that didn't happen. >> i want to make sure i heard you correctly, carol, in what you said. it sounds like what you said was that the chief of the capitol police, a sworn law enforcement officer, saw the need for a larger protective presence at the capitol. he ran that up the chain to the sergeant at arms who is a political appointee of the congressional leadership, and that's where the idea fell apart? so someone in law enforcement saw the need, and a politico above him said no. did i hear you right? >> you absolutely did. there is another thing about your question, joshua, though, which is that failure. this capitol police intel unit, so it's really the police's own, you know, intelligence gathering experts, they warned of the perfect storm that actually happened. they warned exactly, and they predicted exactly three days before it unfolded. they said these were the key elements of that perfect storm. one, that people who are pro-trump were viewing january 6th and that event as a desperate last effort, a last-ditch chance to change the results of the election when lawmakers gathered to certify. two, they were egged on by one of the most important and high-profile supporters you can imagine, president trump himself. third, this group had been talking online about preparing for an armed combat. their organizers were telling each other to bring weapons that they could reassemble on the scene and this intel unit found they were also talking about bringing reinforced bulletproof vests that are used to fend off rifle rounds, they were told to bring gas masks. that's a group armed for war. and fourth and finally, joshua, sorry it's a long list, the other part of the perfect storm is that this group was targeting something different than they ever had before. in the past there could be skirmishes between pro-trump and anti-trump groups, so-called counterprotesters. but this was the first time they had intelligence at the capitol police that the target was congress. no matter whether they were gop lawmakers in there or not. >> definitely a report worth reading. i have a feeling we'll need some more help making sense of the timeline of this as more facts come out. carol leonnig of the "washington post." carol, good to see you. thank you. >> thank you, joshua. let's switch gears now to the second impeachment of president trump. clearly lots of us have questions about this. elizabeth asks, "does conviction automatically result in not being able to run for office or is that a separate vote? and does impeachment and conviction have any impact on potential for civil or criminal charges after he leaves office?" good questions. to help us answer those and more, we're joined by jeffrey rosen, the president and ceo of the national constitution center and a professor at the george washington university school of law. professor rosen, good evening, good to see you. >> great to see you too. >> let's start with those questions. how would you respond to elizabeth? >> great questions from elizabeth. on the first, yes, there do have to be two separate votes. first, the senate would have to vote by a two-thirds majority to convict president trump. and then it would vote separately, and you only need a majority for this, about whether to disqualify him from holding any future office of honor, trust, or profit under the united states. the second question, does the impeachment affect civil or criminal liability, not formally. remember, the president cannot pardon himself from an impeachment trial. the self-pardon might not work for a federal charge, the justice department has said it wouldn't be valid. but he could try to raise that defense in a federal trial but not in an impeachment trial. >> let's see how many of these questions we can get through. one of our viewers wants to know, if trump is impeached in the senate and forbidden from running for president again could he still run for governor of a state? >> great question. and the answer is yes, that the constitution says "honor, trust, or profit under the united states." it does not bar him from holding state office. >> another viewer wants to know, will trump be eligible to receive intelligence briefings after leaving office as other former presidents are? is impeachment the only way to stop that? >> he is eligible. and impeachment would stop it because he would lose all the perks of the office including his travel allowance and salary. i don't know whether president biden has the diskregs to xluz former presidents from receiving intelligence briefings on intelligence grounds. >> one of the arguments we expect his defense to make is the trial is moot once he leaves office. what's your sense of whether or not a former president can be tried under the impeachment process? >> so this is going to be an important question because senator cotton signaled this may be the big defense of the gop senators who don't want to vote to convict. they're going to say, i don't have to take a position on guilt because the senate doesn't have jurisdiction. now, it's an open question. the argument for the senate not being able to try is the penalty is removal and disqualification from office. it's that and. so the theory is if you can't remove you can't disqualify. the argument on the other side is that it would be silly for someone to be able to avoid the penalty of disqualification just by resigning moments before an impeachment trial. the secretary of war tried that in 1876 and the senate didn't buy the argument and tried him anyway. the bottom line is if the senate decides it does have jurisdiction, the supreme court is unlikely to intervene, so it's all up to the senators and it will be interesting to see how many of them use this jurisdictional defense to avoid having to take a position on whether or not president trump is guilty. >> a few more constitutional questions before i have to let you go. let's take a look at the text that has to do with the margin of victory for a conviction. it says, quote, no person shall be convicted without the concurrence of two-thirds of the members present. so if some senators choose to be absent, to stay home and avoid the vote, does that alter the amount of people that are needed for conviction? is it possible some senators could be like, count me out, i have nothing to say, and then the democrats could just go for the people who are in the room at the time? >> you know, that is a great question. some of it may have to do with senate rules about when the senate is allowed to hold a vote and they may require a certain quorum. but if you read the text as you just did, it seems to say the members present. so maybe you could try to avoid responsibility by not showing up. very interesting. >> one last question. some folks -- one of our viewers actually brought up the 14th amendment of the constitution. and the third section of the 14th amendment basically says that if you were an elected officer under the constitution, federal officer, and you engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof, you're disqualified, you can't run again automatically. congress can override that with a two-thirds majority vote. before i have to let you go, does that make this whole process moot? i mean, could democrats in the house and senate have said, you know, the constitution disqualified you just because of what you did, so you know, depart from me, we know ye not. or do we still have to go through this process? >> it is possible that indeed the house and senate could disqualify the president from holding future office under the section 3 of the 14th amendment. that does appear to only require a majority vote of both houses. that might be challenged in court and the supreme court might have questions about whether he actually did incite an insurrection. but bottom line, it's a very plausible alternative line of disqualification and there too, the supreme court might just not choose to intervene. >> jeffrey rosen, president and ceo of the national constitution center and a professor at the george washington university school of law, always good to talk to you, thank you very much. >> thanks for the great questions. still to come this hour, how could so many law enforcement agencies have been so unprepared for the riot at the capitol when, as carol leonnig tells us, the intelligence was right there in front of them? a former director of the national security council joins us ahead. also, you'll meet the man who documented two presidencies as a white house photographer. pete souza has been more vocal about his political views in recent years. we'll find out why in just a few minutes. but first, richard lui is here with the headlines. hey, richard. good evening to you, skrosh wa. some stories watching for at this hour. president-elect biden announced the role of science adviser will be elevated to a cabinet-level position for the first time. biden nominated math that ma advertising and geneticist eric lander to that post. hospitals across the u.s. have thrown thousands of coid vaccines out. dr. ashish jha told nbc news under health care guidelines providers let vaccines go bad, not giving them to people who are not scheduled to take them. and tonight's powerball jackpot is an estimated $640 million while the mega millions jackpot is up to 850 million. both are on the top ten list of all-time largest kitties. and the odds, well, they're at the bottom ten list. more of "the week" with joshua johnson right after the break. 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or is that not quite the same -- >> no, those are not examples of invisible obvious. those are examples of collusion or directly sedition or straight racism. that's not what i'm talking about. those are criminals, presumably acting criminally. >> got you. that's why i wanted to bring this up first. paint us the distinction between this and those actions. >> your previous guests was making a good point about how a number of people did know this was going to [ inaudible ]. -- to the far right being an increasing threat in america on january 6th being a big day. how did the ultimate decision makers get this wrong? we have a long string of intelligence failures in american history. we talk about a failure to imagine. we talk about failure to connect the dots. and you're referring to a phrase we use in our book. the phrase we use is "invisible obvious." this one was so obvious, it was so in front of so many people's face that it's shocking it was invisible to them. but i do believe it was for many decision makers. so you mentioned previously people who look like us and vote like us, we generally feel more comfortable with. this is a form of racial bias. it's a cognitive bias. but that's a big thing that was at play here. i think there were two others and i can do them quickly. one was a frame of law enforcement officers follow law. doesn't the president also? who do i serve? and the confusion of putting this hardened kernel of murderous seditionists into a frame of lawlessness when the president just greeted them down the way. that's a hard one. and finally we can break and talk about, it but it was also probably an overcorrection to the june 1st lafayette square overmilitarization. >> there's been reporting that a number of the people in the mob were either current or former law enforcement themselves. what do you make of that, particularly in terms of perhaps a sense of that kind of, you know, shared affinity that maybe part of these biases that allowed things to get missed? >> i've worked with law enforcement for years. i hold law enforcement in general in high esteem as many of us do. there are a million law enforcement officers in america. obviously there are very bad apples in that bucket. it's a fact. but we must need to absolutely confront the fact that a number of the far right groups and the more conspiracy-driven groups like qanon or boogaloo boys or all these crazy things on the right have infiltrated not only just our law enforcement but into our military. and it's a real problem we need to address and understand. i'm not surprised at all that of the thousands of people who came to the capitol and of the hundreds perhaps, i'm not sure of the number now, that broke into the capitol, that laid siege to the capitol, some were police officers. again, they tend to be affiliated more to the right. and there also unfortunately is an affiliation of some of these far right groups into law enforcement and the u.s. military. >> this concept of the invisible obvious, as we're going into 2021, as we're having some really intense cultural and national conversations, that i think a lot of people want to have but have them usefully, give me an example of a way, before i have to let you go, of how this concept might factor into the way we go forward with 2021 and face some of the issues that are before us. >> well, you know, we talk a lot about catastrophes that strike us, from 9/11 to the rise of isis, from madoff to katrina, all of these things people gave us warnings who are highly credentialed experts, we call them cassandras. all those experts are cassandras we should have listened to and didn't. the reason we didn't listen to them was largely around cognitive biases which lead us to make horrible decisions. one is racial bias, one is the concept of invisible obvious, we just don't see it it's right in front of us. here's how you solve it. you have to make sure you have inclusive groups. you have to work hard against bias, accept that it's there and make sure that you are listening to someone who's giving you a warning and if you initially -- if you're initially repelled by them or you want to throw away their point of view or their warning, ask yourself why. and in the issues -- the reasons i just gave you before, excuse me, the catastrophes i just gave you before, if every one of those instances if the person who made the decision, which was ultimately the wrong decision, to not listen to that warner had asked why am i kicking that person out of the office, why am i not listening to the person who's telling me the challenger will blow up, why am i not listening to the person who's telling me congress will be attacked on january 6th, if we listened and knew why we were listening we'd do a whole lot better. if we confronted our biases. >> did you say you refer to them as cassandras? like the greek myth, cursed to utter prophecies that are true that are never believed? is that what you said? >> that's right. cassandras. the greek myth logical figure who was cursed to be right but disbelieved when catastrophes struck. >> r.p. eddy, ceo of the global intelligence and advisory firm ergo, i appreciate you making time for us and the reference to greek mythology. love the cultural throwback. thank you very much for making time. >> great to see you. thank you. coming up, as we approach another historic moment, we will talk to someone who knows a lot about documenting them. the white house's former official photographer pete souza joins us just ahead. stay close. stay close (customer) hi? 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>> i think in one sense, both men respected the dignity of the office. they both showed compassion and empathy in their job and the way they interacted with other people. and i found that none of those existed in the current administration, with the current president. >> you wrote an op-ed that talks about the few words that you exchanged with donald trump on the day he came to the white house after he won the election. what can you tell us about that? >> well, he was alone in the oval office with president obama and president obama, being the gentleman, introduced trump to me. and trump said something like, "oh, you're famous." and i just thought that was such an odd thing for someone to say. and like how would he even know who i was? because i was pretty low key at the time, when i was in the job. so i just thought that was such an odd response. >> in terms of being low key, you wrote an op-ed for us that said that you decided to begin throwing shade at trump and his administration in the early days after his inauguration, in an op-ed for nbc think. what made you decide to be more vocal? was there a particular moment that kind of spurred you to be more forthright with your political feelings? >> i mean, i think the emotions had been boiling up since the election of 2016, right up until inauguration day. and i just felt that we had been conned by this guy. i mean, look, he started his political career with the birther issue. that's how he got so much attention in 2015, was claiming that barack obama wasn't born in the u.s. and every time that he said that, it was on cable tv. so i knew he was a con man. and i felt that because i didn't think he was competent and would be respectful and wasn't empathic or compassionate, i honestly felt i had no choice, that i had to find a way to speak out. and i thought that i could do it in a pretty unique way, using public domain images with my commentary on instagram. so i just felt that i really had no choice, that as a citizen -- >> before i -- i'm sorry to interrupt you. before i let you go, i know you documented two presidents, it turns out the that you will have documented a third with the one who is to be inaugurated wednesday. what is, before i let you go, something you have seen of joe biden in your interactions with him as a photographer that you would like the rest of america and the world to see as well? 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