He says and well bring you any relevant developments throughout the hour. Then theres this. When we were in chicago, we were driving through a predominantly black neighborhood. His comment to me was only the blacks could live this way. Trumps former lawyer has a to say. We have more on that coming up in a moment, but first, donald trump is doing everything in his power to stop the bleeding after an explosive report in the atlantic that redisparaged u. S. Soldiers. When ever a narrative threatens his grip on power. Hes denying the report, fox news confirming parts of the story. When he didnisnt in denial mod Trump Doubles down on insulting the military by attack aing the very military leadership that he himself appointed. Im not saying the militarys in love with me. The soldiers are. The top people in the pentagon probably arent because they want to do nothing but fight wars that all of those Wonderful Companies that make the bombs and planes and Everything Else stay happy. Now what weve learned from atlantic piece isnt breaking news weve seen it since the summer he launched his first president ial campaign when he said former prisoner of war, john mccain, was not a war hee because he was captured, but trump made sure a clak of loyalists slammed the reporting any way. Including people who arent even on the 2018 paris trip, like his Current Press secretary who isnt assume the b job until 2020. Sarah Huckabee Sanders out of hiding to deem the story fake news. But whos not commentating on this story is far more interesting. John kelly. Hes managed to become the loud est person this this controversy by not saying a word. The retired four star general has yet to confirm or to deny it. The same dwoez for retired general, chairman of the former junt chiefs of staff. Both have indicated that the military calls for stigma. Especially in the world of partisan politics. And yet, there comes a time when Senior Leadership of the American Military must break their silence, no . Heres joe biden making a strong case as to why. When it comes to veterans, hes down right unamerican. Ive never said that about a president ever, ever, ever. But calling those who have served, risk their lives, even gave their lives to our nation, losers and suckers. These are heroes. Ill tell you something. My beau wasnt a loser. Or a sucker. If thats how you talk about our vetera veterans, you have no business being president of the United States of america. Period. Joining me now is representative mikey sherrill of new jersey. A former Navy Helicopter pilot. Ted lu of california. And claire mccaskill, former u. S. Senator out of missouri. Congresswoman, i want to go to you first. Donald trump, he sent a lot of people out to defend him including the current defense secretary who wasnt in the job until the following summer. A lot of people who werent there. Steve mnuchin, who wasnt there. What do you make of these denials and how did they hit you personally when you read or heard about what the atlantics reporter found out . Well, joy, as you discussed, this isnt the first time the president has denigrated service or service members. Weve seen it with his comments on john mccain and his powerful example of how you serve when youre a p. O. W. And the fact you follow the rules of war and dont accept the enemy letting you go for special favors and you stay, even if you have ejection injuries and are tortured for five more years. Thats something that speaks to people who served. Thats something that spoke to me at the naval academy. Weve heard him denigrate gold star families. Many of us who served the ultimate sasacrifice, thats something were proud to do. Its really the families we leave behind. Our mother, father, sisters, brothers and children who will grow up without parents. So we take care of our gold star families and to hear the president even denigrate them is really beyond the pale and i believe hes unfit to be the commander in chief. We spoke with mr. Khan last week. This isnt even a new story. The thing about this, one of our two said during our theres a book out that in which donald trump, this is Phillip Rucker and carol linne wrote a book, these two great reporters, called a very stable jegenius i which trump is said to have berated generals in 2017, calling them dopes and babies, telling them youre all losers, you dont know how to win anymore. I wouldnt go to war with you people. Youre a bunch of dopes and babies. Its not like this is something he hasnt done before. What do you think this would resonate than these other reports . Thank you for your question. Youre right. This is not an isolated incident and first of all, it is appa appalling that anyone would think that American Service members who gave their lives at war somehow losers and suckers, but for these words to come from the president of the United States is absolutely demoralizing. Imagine if youre deploying on the front lines of afghanistan and you hear about this or lost a Family Member to war. So donald trump must apologize. The fact that everyone who is around him at the time is silent and not denying this i think speaks volumes. I do hope that john kelly and other generals speak out, but we dont need them to to know this is true and we know its true because donald trump again went after the military this weekend when he attacked military generals for somehow being warmongers. Thats exactly the opposite. I served active duty. Its been my experience that commanders dont want to go to war because they know the horrors of war. And you know, one of the people who was sent out and has been out flaking for her former boss is sarah Huckabee Sanders. Very much ride or die, for whatever it is donald trump does. Ive got an interesting piece of her on the view this morning. Watch this segment with her and at one point, joy asks her a very important question. Shes saying it didnt happen. She was indeed on the trip. But u just take a listen to thisly l clip. Question, i want to clear something up with you. Because i think i heard you say that you dont believe that Jeffrey Goldberg ought to go because you were there. Is that correct . Correct. The incident that they were specifically talking about okay. Okay. I was there for that discussion. Okay, so my question is when, when general kelly was at Arlington Cemetery standing next to trump looking at his sons grave side and trump allegedly said what do you get out of it, were you there for that . I was not standing next to the president. I mean, claire, shes the one person who was there whos trying to defend. I think there have been some other people who were on the trip, but theres no one who was literally standing there listening to donald trump talk to general kelly or general dunford that has defended him. What does it say to you that those people are silent . That theyre not coming out because they could, theyre not being political. They could say what a horrible thing to say about the commander in chief. Theyre not saying it. First of all, i love being on a panel with these two wonderful people who served. I was on the Armed Services committee for 12 years, joy. And i will tell you the military leadership that has been maligned last week. You know, its funny because trump spends days saying i didnt criticize the military then has a press conference and criticize d the active duty military leadership and people who serve know the people that are the leaders of the military, they are not political. They have come up through the ranks. They have seen the horrors of war. Personally. Both by losing people and fighting. So, you take a guy like john kelly. He, he does not want to be political. He is, but his sigh slelence is deafening and i guarantee you that it means something and heres what i would say to sarah huckabee. Well, this was about commemorating american soldiers. The secemetery in paris. Why were the other World Leaders there . How did they manage to get there . Why was the rain not a problem for them . Why was the leadership of germany and canada and all of our allies, why were every single one of them at that cemetery but donald trump wasnt . Thats the question id like to have sarah Huckabee Sanders answer. Why are all those leaders, why did they think it was important and donald trump didnt . Yeah. Let alone the fact he did find time for putin. The army was tweeting out photos of people riding their bikes in the same rain. It isnt plausible and he was mocked for it at the time. Meanwhile, another little interesting note of information because in the defense of donald trump, this is what his campaign is doing. One of their campaign staffers, somebody named Frances Brennan tweeted out or im sorry, tweeted out mr. Vice president , come talk to us. This is joe biden who just keeps me andering along. This is a tweet from the Trump Campaign. Now, this was joe biden. Who has lost a son. Not in combat, but his son served his country and died of cancer. His oldest son. And biden made a visit to st. Josephs to a church in wilmington, delaware, where beau biden, his son, is buried. You can see. Were going to show the video here of it because this is what the Trump Campaign mocked as biden meandering and trying to make it look like there was something wrong with him when he was literally just walking to see his sons grave. What do you make of that . Even the campaign is participating in mocking joe biden, who has actually felt the loss of a son. He didnt die in combat, but you know, what do you make of that, congresswoman . I think like most americans, i have no idea who to make of that. To have a parent visiting the grave of their child, something that i hope i personally never have to experience, being somehow mocked . Again and again, you just wonder wheres the empathy . Wheres the concern for other people . Wheres the leadership to bring this country together when were all hurting so badly from this pandemic. Its really strikingly lacking. Claire, to go back to you for a moment because you know senator mccain. Im sure you guys had your clashes on policy back and forth, et cetera. And donald trump still cant ett it go. This was donald trump on mccain, monday, on labor day. Ive always been on the opposite side of john mccain. John mccain like d wars. I will be a better warrior than anybody, but will we fight war, were going to win them and frankly, i was never fan of john mccain. You know that. So this is not somebody am i supposed to say, what a wonderful guy . John mccain is dead. He cant let it go and he hasnt even ended any of these wars. Hes increase d the number of troops overseas so thats not even a youve been in tough campaigns, claire. Does this make any sense to you for this to be the strategy . No. And i, you know, its so hard to listen to him denigrate john mccain. John mccain and i were friends. We didnt agree on a lot, but we were friends. And as the congresswoman said, people need to understand john mccains history. You know, his family was revered in the navy and his father was an admiral at the time he was a prisoner of war and thented to let him out. They wanted to let him go. And he said no. Im not leaving without my fellow captured soldiers or captured sailors. Im not leaving without the others and he stayed. Now, compare and contrast that to this jerk in the white house who actually said that fighting sexually transmitted diseases was his personal vietnam. And this jerk who refuses to confront putin over putting a bounty on american soldiers, thats what americas military is hearing right now. Thats the commander in chief theyve got. Thats why his numbers are plumeting with active military right now and he may be the first republican in my lifetime to not capture the majority votes of the active military in the United States. And congressman lieu, im going to give you the last word on this. Even the attacks on the mail could hurt overseas personnel who may have to vote by mail. It just sort of never ends. I dont know. Im just going to give you the last word. Thank you, joy. Senator mccaskill is absolutely right. Donald trump is likely going to be the first president in a long time to lose a vote of active duty military based on recent poll. More active duty troops support joe biden than donald trump. We were talking about this a few days ago. Thats unheard of. When we served, you never would have seen this happen and thats because the active duty military understands what trump has done. He has weakened United States foreign policy. He has disparage d the military. He still refuses to replacing a bounty on the heads of u. S. Troops. And even today, he cannot say a single sentence that is against putin. So the u. S. Military troops are watching this and they understand that donald trump is not fit to be commander in chief. Congresswoman sherrill, ted li e eu and claire mccaskill, thank you very much. Up next, Michael Cohen spills all the tea. If you had a conversation with donald trump right now, what would you want to tell him . That he should resign now. Milet mike pence pardon you fro any and all potential crimes that will come out against you and that would be my recommendation to you. Step aside. 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Now free from the cult of donald trump, his former personal attorney, Michael Cohen, is out with a new book full of allegations about his onetime boss. But much like the explosive report from the atlantic about trump disparaging American Service members, some of cohens allegations sound a lot like what we already know about trump. In the book, cohen por trars trump as not only a cult leader, but a con man and racist. In an exclusive interview with lester holt, cohen expanded on the racism he says he observed firsthand while working for trump. You called trump a racist. Were you witness to any moments that you thought he was exhibiting racism or used a rational slur . Unfortunately, all too many times. We had one where right after Nelson Mandela had passed away and i talk about this in the book. Asked me if i had known of any country thats run by a black thats not an s hole and i said, how about america . To which he gave me the proverbial furk. 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