Biden said he had spoken by phone for about 15 minutes with jacob blake who is now out of intensive care. He talked about how nothing was going to defeat him. How whether he walked again or not, he was not going to give up. I think whats unleashed with a lot of people is, they understand that fear doesnt solve problems, only hope does. And what i came away with was the overwhelming sense of resilience and optimism that they have about the response. His mom talked about my wife asked to say a prayer, and his mom said a prayer. She said, im praying for jacob, but im praying for the policemen as well. Im praying things change. In a statement family Attorney Ben Crump said mr. Blake senior talked about the need for reform because the excessive use of violence by police against minorities has gone on far too long. Made poignant by the fact in rochester, new york, yet another family deals with the pain of death of a man in custody. Well have that later on the show. The reason we havent shown you pictures of the visit to the blake family, it was closed to the press, for their privacy. Compare that to trump, he went way out of his way to turn everything into a photoop. Meeting with Law Enforcement and a controversial sheriff who said some people arent worth saving, should be warehoused. And another that wouldnt cooperate. Democratic nominee, trump not sharing spotlight in the battleground of pennsylvania. In kenosha one Community Member drew a stark contrast between the two visits. We know that someone came here to take a victory lap. We know that someone came here to show division. We know that someone came here not to help us. But the people surrounding the family decided were not going to show that picture to the world. He highlighted what occurred on tuesday at the same time that trump was arriving. A Community Celebration on the corner where jacob blake was shot seven times by a Kenosha Police officer, an image donald trump most certainly did not want you to see but were happy to show you. Janel ross, reporter for blk. Heather mcghee, cochair of color of change. Jennifer palmieri former Communications Director under president obama and author of she proclaims, independence in a mans world. Give us a sense of what happened at the town hall, what kinds of questions were asked and how was the Vice President received . There were a range of issues raised with the Vice President , as i understand. There were questions about policy, policing reforms. There were also questions about the damage sustained by businesses and what sorts of efforts will be made to help them. I personally have spoken with a Business Owner who told me his insurance has informed him that he has no coverage for civil unrest, so this is a serious question. In addition there was some discussion about the general sort of tone and mood of the country, a state of a sense that we are in a state of chaos and what the appropriate role for a president might be in such a situation. I think there is also a great deal of concern coming from both the blake family and activists here in kenosha. Theres a lot of effort thats been made to try to keep the conversation really focused on policy but also what is going to happen with regard to the specific officer who shot jacob blake and understanding what is happening with that investigation because there is not much information that has been made public. Yeah. You know, jennifer, this is a tricky situation when somebody is running for president , right, there is a balance between being there. I think it was obvious to most people watching this campaign that it was important for joe biden to go to kenosha, particularly after donald trump did, but balancing it to make sure it isnt seen as overt politics without much behind it. I want to play something behind you, this is shut the bridge down guy. The new Campaign Manager for trump. Here he is talking about biden. The president was there earlier in the week, as president of the United States. Vice president is there today as a candidate, as a political candidate. This is not the time to be injecting politics into a really serious situation that the president helped solve. Your witness, jennifer. Yeah. So im actually in milwaukee, im here for the circus. I covered the trump event in kenosha on tuesday. And ill tell you kenoshaans are pretty tired of being a backdrop for a political fight. So i think that for biden to come in and go to a church was a very important signal. What you saw what i saw trump doing, what i literally saw, is them staging a photoop, bringing in armored vehicles, positioning them in front of vehicles tragically destroyed but it was very much a photoop. And you know, democrats in wisconsin are nervous, so i will tell you they are this state is always razor thin. Trump won by 27 percentage points. This is a state that had a lot of support for black lives matter a couple months ago, those numbers have dropped precipitously. Police are very popular in the state. A poll coming out, the gold standard, and i talked to the pollster. Hes not sure kenosha is going to make that much difference in the race now because things are so sort of stable in terms of who supports biden and trump. But that poll which comes out next wednesday will really be telling. If trump cant move voters trying to scare them with his message, in wisconsin, after kenosha, it suggests to me thats not going to really work anywhere, if it doesnt work here. I think as long as the coronavirus is out there, the polls so far show that wont work. As a matter for the community, heather, and welcome to the show. I think this is the first time youve been on. Theres a strange message coming out of the white house, which i guess isnt strange if you know what bill barr is and what hes decided he wants to be, which is none of this is real. None of this talk about systemic violence is real. Theres no such thing as Police Brutality against black people. Black people are making this up. Obviously this is an appeal to white voters, they hope, to say black people are just being hysterical about Police Violence when it isnt real. Just so you dont think im making this up. Here is william barr lets do two things. Here is the difference between george floyd and jacob blake. Floyd was already subdued, incapacitated and not armed. In jacobs case he was in the midst of committing a felony, and he was armed. So thats a big difference. His family says he wasnt armed. There may have been a knife in the car but he wasnt armed when he was shot. Thats what his family and lawyers said. I stated what i believe to be the difference. So he just made up something that isnt true. He spoke to the top Law Enforcement initial in the country and he made up a fact that isnt true about jacob blake. Here he is again talking about whether he thinks theres deep seated racism in policing. I do think there appears to be a phenomenon in the country where africanamericans feel they are treated when they are stopped by police frequently aspects but they are treated as citizens. I dont think that necessarily reflects deep seated racism in Police Departments or in most police officers. What is that supposed to be . Your thoughts, heather. I mean, its really important to bill bar and his ideology and trump base to say racism doesnt exist. Racism is still bad to them. It just doesnt exist. If it does exist, the most prominent form of racism is black and brown racism against white people. Thats the world view. But when it comes to the city of kenosha and its nearby bigger city milwaukee, its so important we recognize just like minneapolis where gorge floyd w george flowed was murdered, these are communities completely shaped by racism. For the past years Life Opportunities for black people in milwaukee, minnesota, minneapolis, have declined. There was a young woman who spoke at the biden event and went off script and said im just so tired. There was a study that came out from university of wisconsin and milwaukee that actually black milwaukee is near the bottom or at the bottom on dozens of different indicators of all ask 50 major metropolitan areas in the country. That kind of lack of count, the lowest Home Ownership rate in the country, the highest residential segregation in the country, the lowest income in the country among black people in milwaukee, that kind of lack of opportunity is behind the unrest that youre seeing in kenosha and about the higher incidence of police contact. So when people talk about defunding the police, they are saying we want you to invest in opportunity in this community because you always seem to have money to take away our free tom, where is the money and the investment in infrastructure to help create opportunity and freedom. You know, you could just be describing the Michael Brown case in ferguson, you could be describing freddie gray case in baltimore, you could be describing the Trayvon Martin case in florida. Literally all of the things you just talked about, the economic and background factors all were the same. You can just go city by city by city. Im glad you brought that out. I want to listen to a little more of joe biden today, just so we can hear more of what he said. Here he is. This is cut four. Well, i think weve reached an Inflection Point in american history. I honest to god believe we have an enormous opportunity now that the screen the curtain has been pulled back on just whats going on in the country to do a lot of really positive things. I want you put a pin in that for a second while we listen to another voice out of milwaukee. This is the former sheriff of milwaukee, if you dont remember him, hes the guy whose jail a man died in, a mentally ill man kept for seven days without water. Thats who he is. The man was begging for water and he died in sheriff clarks jail. Just so you know who he is. Here he is in contrast to biden. Im just telling people, hey, youre on your own. Think about it, have a plan. Act reasonably. You have to act reasonably. Then youre going to have to articulate what you did afterwards. Have a plan, think it through, be able to articulate it, and be reasonable. Its all the law requires. You have the right to defend yourself. You dont need permission from the police or a sheriff. Hes basically giving an instruction manual to vigilantes. How divided, janell, just being there in kenosha along the lines of what biden said and what sheriff clarke said . It is, of course, always difficult to say and ive talked to some kenosha residents, i would say i certainly heard from many more people looking for a sense of restored calm and order, but a number of people who are also deeply concerned about what sort of lurks underneath the surface of that restored calm and order as well. Just as heather was saying, there is a roughly 20,000 a year income gap between white and black households here in kenosha. There are significant and longstanding concerns about stop an frisk activity in kenosha, being inordinately focused on black people, in particular, black men in kenosha. There is also the question of militia groups. This is a growing phenomenon around the country. I talked with sources who study and track militia groups. It seems militia organizations or members have been spotted and black lives matter protests around the country all summer. Wow. This is what i describe as an exhaustion election because i think thats how most people feel in the country right now. Janel ross, thank you very much. Heather mcghee, jennifer palmieri, thank you. Up next on the the reidout, the family of daniel prude seeking justice after he was suffocated in police custody. They did not so no type of respect for human life, none. Daniel prudes brother, who you just saw right there, joins me next. Trump talks law and order, but its the opposite, its crime and chaos. Hes telling his voters to vote twice. Surprise, bill barr is backing him up. The reidout continues after this. Him up the reidout continues after this i have moderate to severe pnow, theres skyrizi. 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Protesters from the prude family are calling for the officers to be fired and prosecuted. The police chief said they have launched internal and criminal investigation but declined to discuss the cause of death citing Ongoing Investigation and a possible lawsuit. Late today the mayor announced that the officers involved would be suspended. According to an autopsy report obtained by the familys attorney prudes debt was caused by complications of asphyxia in the setting of physical restraint, excited dell irium and pcp intoxication were listed as contributing factors. His brother said he called 911 to get help for prude. I placed the phone call for my brother to get help, not for my brother to get lynched. Joining me now is daniel prudes brother, joe prude, along with elliot shield and donald thompson, attorneys for the prude family. Thank you all for being here. I really appreciate it. All of our teens deepest condolences, mr. Prude. Thank you for being here under such difficult circumstances. Thank you. Of course, sir. Lets talk about this incident. It happened back in march. You initially called for help for your brother. Why . You know, i experienced the activity he was saying out of his mouth, kind of shook me up. My brother never acted like that before. He never spoke those type of words. When he spoke those type of words, it made me get a little concerned and it also made me scared. When i came to the conclusion, man, i need go ahead and call and get my brother some help because i never dealt with a situation like this before, so thats what i done. My understanding is there had been a couple of deaths in the family that were really bother some to him and he had come to be with you. Is that the case . No, it wasnt. Okay. So let me ask you about his behavior that night. The police are saying he was on pcp. He was obviously nude in the street. When you called police, was he already in that state . Was he already unclothed and behaving erratically. No. He wasnt . No, he wasnt. So what did you expect to have the police do when they arrived at your home . What did you think they were going to do . Well, actually like earlier that day i had called and admitted him into the hospital for a Mental Hygiene arrest, to see if i could get some type of understanding what was causing this behavior to act like that. But that wasnt what i got. They took him in. Within three hours they sent him back to my house with medicab with no diagnosis, symptoms saying he was chemically induced by a drug, whatever the case may be. They never mentioned that to nobody. They just sent him home in a medhi cab. The night you called for police, the incident that happened, did that happen near your home . Yeah, like right around the corner, a few blocks. So you didnt see anything that happened. I didnt see none of it. When you found out, who informed you that your brother had passed . Was it the police . Actually i informed my lawyers that they killed my brother. You knew. How did you find out your brother had been killed . I dont know how it came in existence for me to feel the way i felt that night, but when the officers came to my door, i stated, like i always stated and continue to state, that hes not a threat to nobody but himself. Do not kill my brother. I dont know what made me bring that notion out of my mouth, what made my heart stick with that. After all that arise, i didnt have the clear knowledge on what happened to my brother, i immediately called my lawyers the next day. So he was admitted to the hospital at first. He died later. Is that my understanding . Thats from my recollection, yes. So i was watching my colleague, friend and colleague ari melber, the show before mine, he played a clip from the mayor and she said she was unaware of how your brother died. Its surprising and a little distressing. Do you think police were honest with you . Did police tell you initially what happened, or did you only fully understand what happened all these months later once you got the tapes. The police never really told me nothing. All they did, they told me they apprehended my brother, and that was that. They never told me nothing about my brother was placed on life support, he stopped breathing at the scene of the crime. They never told me none of that. Let me read you a little bit of what new York Attorney general Leticia James said. This was the statement about his death. I share the communitys concerns about ensuring, special investigations and p