blocking the government from enforcing it. that is the ruling that the administration said it will appeal. what the judge said here is if i don't block it and it is later found to be illegal, then all of the people will have come forward and getting the benefits and risk deportation because dhs will have all of their information. that is him expressing the view that some advocates have expressed. the judge said the government has gone beyond its statutory authority. it is one thing to not enforce the immigration laws and another thing to affirmatively give to the people here illegally certain benefits lieshl social security numbers and work permits. government will appeal this to the fifth court of appeals and if the fifth circuit turns them down they will go to the supreme court. and jeh johnson the secretary of homeland security, bir with me -- bear with me has just said i don't like this ruling and i recognize we will have to comply with it so we will not begin the request for the expansion -- you have it up here, for applications under this program tomorrow and suspend the plan to request the further requests for it until this is worked out legally. >> and the two groups that are at issue here are those who are 30 years of over or who came to the u.s. as children undocumented and also the parents of -- who may be undocumented or are children of parents. and let me ask you about the standing and after read being it that the administration is going back and arguing. do the states have challenge the president's right to enforce immigration law in the way the administration sees fit. can you talk about that question because the states are saying we have to provide services so we have standing? is there a legitimate question that has been litigated before. >> there is a big question about this and the judge devotes half of his opinion today to that issue, saying the states do have a standing. that is to say the legal right to come into court. what the federal courts have said is you can't sue unless you have a direct injury a government policy affects you directly concrete and particularized is the phrase the government uses. the states say we bear the burden of all of these new immigrants coming here and we have to license them and a magnet that draws more people across the border. and the counter is that immigration has been a federal responsibility and that it is really not for the state -- this is not for a state -- not a state issue. >> pete williams thanks very much. >> you bet. now to the ongoing white house strategy against isis. today a three-day conference on terrorism begins in snow-bound washington, d.c. the international conference comes after the egypt military pounded and libya pounded them overnight. and the thinking they might expand beyond iraq. they showed the beheading of 21 individuals that were christians. the pope said the blood of our christian brothers is a witness that cries out. luke russert joins me live from the white house. so i understand this conference is moving forward even though washington is snow-bound. what are we expecting out of this conference today, luke. >> reporter: hey there, joy. this is a three-day conference the white house has set up to try and figure out what the root causes are of home-grown extremism and what can be done through government policy to try and prohibit that. it also has a larger focus on terrorism and the ongoing war against crisis. day one is focused on domestic issues. what i mentioned, how do you reach the people marginalized in the united states, feeling they need to go to a extremist cause to feel an identity and law enforcement has had a great difficulty and identifying that today. and they will hear leaders across the spectrum that deal with national security and specifically that prohibiting terrorism and third it is more of a day of international significance from hearing the people who work in that field. president obama is expected to speak tomorrow, joy, as well as on thursday. and one last thing, nothing happens here at the white house without controversy. the it was said today that the white house is not going after radical islam. and the white house said we are trying to get terrorists no matter where they come from. and there is always political controversy no matter where it comes from. >> luke russert, stay warm. >> take care. and after a free speech conference on the weekend, and a friend of the suspect said he created a facebook page that created a pledge of allegiance to isis prior to the attack. kelly is following it in denmark. >> reporter: joy, we're getting a contradictory picture of this man, born in denmark to palestinian parents. his friends say he was a normal guy, good-hearted, loyal to his friends. but there is another picture of him emerging a man with a criminal past with ties to gangs. he was reportedly in prison for 15 months for stabbing a man on a commuter train in the leg. and during that time it is believed that he may have been tending toward radicalization. now interestingly, a reporter who covered one of his court appearances said he didn't appear to be political. he was shaved and pock marked and he said not religious, no quite the opposite. at some point in prison that seems to be changed. prison officials were concerned enough to raise the alarm to intelligence services to submit a report in september of 2014 saying he may be becoming radicalized. he was released from prison just two weeks ago. security services said they were aware of this report from the prison officials and he was on their radar. but there was no indication whatsoever that he was planning any sort of attack. joy? >> nbc's coley kobe a reporting in copenhagen. 1700 people are under winter storm warnings. washington, d.c. is in the middle of it. getting up to 17 inches of snow. and canceling several events including events for ashton carter. but some getting into a massive snow ball fight. >> what is the strategy right now? >> to try to make as many snow balls as possible. >> this is a little bit out of place in a snow ball fight. >> i'm not the winter soldier, but i do what i can. >> let's go get them. >> in the south, they are dealing with brutal road conditions. look at this video our affiliate got close to action when an suv spun out of control and stopped inches from the camera. as for air travel, over 1,000 flights have been canceled and over 1,000 delays. and insult added to injury 95.7 inches of snow have been dumbed on the city of boston and it won't let up. #climate change. and let get to adam riese live in boston. how are things looking in that city? >> reporter: joy, good afternoon to you. we're here at one of five snow farms in boston. we're here in south boston where they are just trying to keep up with relentless snowfall. one truck after another coming in here. the real number is 30. 30 more days until the subway system is fully operational. on top of 30 days where we've had intermittent service. the mayor is asking people to remain patient and calm. but people are frustrated. they are upset. people are having trouble getting to work. people are waiting on subway platforms for two hours and buses. it is creating a problem. they are asking for people to help digout subway lines and asking prison inmates and asking people to take $30 an hour to shovel off the third rail. so that is what they are dealing with here in boston. more and more snow coming in here, one right after the next doing everything they can to keep it up and melt it. joy. >> looks like a mountain. adam riese thank you. coming up we'll discuss the fallout from texas judge's injunction against the president's executive actions on immigration just as millions of immigrants were about to get relief. but first the vicious cruelty of the islamic state attacks go beyond the capture of large swaths of lands to establish a so-called caliphate. so what else do they want besides mayhem? mama 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new strategy based on a careful reading of isis and what the authors say during the medieval vision of the war with the middle east. they say the armies of rome will mass to meet the armies of islam in northern syria whose defeat will initiate the count down to the apocalypse. and the atlantic say they are doing p.r. for isis. michael sheehan is a terrorism expert and a distinguished fellow at combatting terrorism center at west point. and fillas kuragi from the london science. and i'll start with the atlantic piece that seems to imply that isis' motive is an apommo liptic one and they want to create this war with the west. is that accurate or more accurate to say they are an old-fashioned group seeking territory and power? >> actually it is a false thesis because there is a big difference conceptually between the so-called islamic state and al qaeda central. while al qaeda targeted the far ep emmy meaning the united states and european allies until june 2014 the target of the so-called isis or islamic state was basically arab and muslim sectarian based regimes in iraq and syria and a major concept you'll difference even though since june 2014 this particular distinction between the far enemy, the united states and the allies and the near enemy has been blurred. now isis or the so-called islamic state is waging war against both the near enemy, meaning arab and muslim rulers and the western powers because the united states now has a particular -- leading an international coalition against the so call the islamic state. one particular point here is that the -- there is no difference -- no difference whatsoever about the ideological war view about the islamic central and al-baghdadi. the ultimate utopian vision of both groups is to establish the caliphate, anchored in the islamic law. this is the utopian vision you might say the ideal vision. the only difference between al qaeda central and the islamic state is that the islamic state is that al-baghdadi has declared himself the strauk state but the difference is to misread the entire basically strategy and ideology and tactics of the so-called islamic state since establishment in the last two years or so. >> and that is fascinating. and michael to pick on what he is talking about, the near enemy and the far enemy and the differences in al qaeda and the differences is the islamic state has been far more successful in establishing itself and rooting itself into a broader territory. we knew about the parts of syria and iraq and they have taken over like mosul and iraq and now they are establishing in places like libya where there were other territory groups the west was worried about. this is worrisome, is it not, that this group is as an army is fairly successful in holding actual territory more than al qaeda has? >> that is right. al qaeda did hold territory with the taliban prior to 9/11 that a great sanctuary in afghanistan, and that was destroyed after 9/11 and since then they haven't had much territory. and isis yes, they are looking to gain control of territory and establish that caliphate where they are right now in the leavant in iraq and syria and reaching out to other groups that are trying to get land like boko haram and others in north africa to establish links to try to grow the organization and make it bigger and more intimidating. >> and so then in terms of how one would fight back against a group like that that is as you said fighting in two fronts versus the west and against the governments that it sees as nonislamicic. marie harf is getting attention on how you fight isis and when. listen to this. >> we are killing a lot of them and we're going to keep killing them. and so are jordans and egypt. we cannot kill our way out of this. we need to go after the root causes that leads people to join these groups. >> and i'll throw this question to each of you. but this goes to the gut feeling of a lot of americans that there is something other than just wiping isis off of the map but there is other social things that need to be done within the societies and i will say that just the reactions from jordanians after their pilot was killed was viscerally the same way, you can't just go in and wipe isis out there is something oeshl we should -- something else we should be doing socially. >> let me go further and even if we defeat isis and we will, it is a matter of time. you have to discredit this ideology itself unless you bury it once and for all. or another group will come about. and you need to defeat it from within. defeat arab government and ideology and defeat the social oxygen. the fact is the reason why -- i mean the question is why has isis been able much more successfully more than the al qaeda central. the simple answer and i challenge anyone to defy this particular answer it has blended it self-with local communities and it has been able to portray itself as the defender, the persecutor of sunnis in iraq and syria. that is its home base. it says we are defending the authentic sunni communities. and how do you defeat it? you defeat it in other places that isis is their enemy, not the defender and trying to dislodge isis from the local community that it has been able to find home there. >> and michael sheehan, to you, is isis cutting off its own oxygen by so brutally and publicly and salaciously killing fellow sunni muslims like they did to the jordanian pilot and like they just did, even though they were not muslims, they were arabs they killed in egypt, is isis in a way doing its -- itself in with these populations by the brutality it is inflicting on fellow co-rlgs like this. >> on one hand it intimidates your enemies and can push people out of zones operating afraid of their pilots getting caught and burned alive or their ngo workers being killed so the intimidation factor works for them but the brutality can backfire like aqii and zarqawi in the early days in 2004 and 2050 and with -- 2005 with his use of 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southeast is dealing with a massive snow and ice storm, causing treacherous roads across the south and 275,000 people across 14 states are without power n. west virginia fires continue to burn after a train carrying more than 100 tankers of crude oil derailed on monday. hundreds of families were evacuated and two water treatment plants shut down. water will turn on this afternoon after sampled tested negative for toxins but a boil water advisory is in effect. and federal railroad officials are investigating the accident into and west coast ports are being reopened after shut down over the weekend after a contract dispute after labor secretary tom perez tries to solve the stalemate between dock workers. after they meet in san francisco. after the american sniper murder continues today, after a request for a mistrial from the defense. prosecutors are expected to rest this afternoon. a day after jurors heard a chilling video tape confession that eddy ray ralph gave to police hours after the shootings. seen here with his head down on his desk he shot kyle first saying i was going to be the next one getting my head shot off if i didn't take out his soul, he was going to take my soul next. ralph has pleaded not guilty by reason of in sanity and lisa green joins me now. so this is one of the cases where there is no mystery as to who did this killing. this person has admitted to it. how difficult is it to prove he didn't know what he was doing at the time if he apologized. >> it is difficult under any circumstances if you have been following the case what you see is there is evidence both sides can use. you mentioned an apoll -- an apology, that works in the prosecutor's favor. the defense would say that is an after the fact confession/apology. listen to what ralph was saying during it and listen to the exchange chris colin and his friend exchanges and listen to it. >> someone will take my soul. >> if you listen to the testimony and not just the confession and some of the prosecution cases and the defense will be a parade of experts all discussing the depth of this defendant's mental health issues. >> so let's jump ahead to what will happen if let's say, in his rare defense is not guilty by reason of in sanity if it were to succeed does that mean he will go home. >> it is a misconception. but the state can then move to have him institutionalized for the length of the sentence had it been a conviction. so he will spend the rest of his life in a mental institution. the defense thinks that is a more just outcome. and that would remain to be scene after a separate hearing. >> and the jury doesn't know that going forward. >> it hasn't happened. only after the acquittal, whether that would affect jurors thinking, do we need to punish that man, we'll see that coming. >> lisa green, thank you very much. and a new video showing the traffic stop and arrest of a st. louis man is at the heart of a new lawsuit. this dash cam video given to the st. louis post-dispatch for the lawyer for cortez beaufort shows part of the arrest namely the st. louis police officers kicking and shocking him with a taser. one officer could be saying everybody hold up we are red right now, before shutting off the camera. due to an open records request, the city counselor released the same video on friday including other angles. according to the paper, one angle shows after another camera was stopped. officers were still around buford. that camera shut off, leaving a gap of two minutes before he is seen on camera again. according to the st. louis post-dispatch, a lawyer for the st. louis police officers association said it executes proper escalation of force applies against a resisting suspect who was lucky he didn't get shot when he reached for air gun. and the passenger told officers the gun belonged to beaufort. and the prosecutor declined to comment on the case. and both charges were later dropped. tremain leagues joins me now. and you trks everything that happened and you have a video gone viral and saying the part that was important was the switching off of the dash cam video. how is this resonating in ferguson and in st. louis county where people have broad mistrust of police? >> that is right, joy. in this post-ferguson landscape we are living in in ferguson and st. louis county shorthand for the deep divisions and everybody is pushing for body cameras and video to hold police accountable but in the end saying we're red. if you are worried about the camera hold up. that is trouble for folks calling for more accountable and talking about the deep divisions for a long time, and. >> and you spoke with the mother in the middle of a civil rights investigation with her mother and it is very story. >> constance malcolm's son was coming back from a bodega and police suspected he was involved in a drug deal and said he had a gone. burst into his home without a search warrant and cornered him in a booth room and shoot and kill him. and while other names have popped up trayvon martin brown and this speaks to the issues unarmed young black man and with local courts failing him, the family has turned to the justice department and here is their story. >> i'm always going to miss him. he is my son. >> it has been three years since a police officer shot and killed rammarly graham in the bronx home where she still lives. >> you still feel his presence here? >> yeah. >> what does that feel like? >> it is like he is saying it is okay. i'm okay. >> she's left his room untouched since the day he died. his clothes still stacked neatly on the corner. >> it is still like this. i can't find this. where are my clothes. >> and for her, the justice is at a stand still. the officer who killed him has not been prosecuted. in february of 2012. a group of new york city police officers suspected graham had taken part in a drug deal, stormed his home without a warrant and cornered him in a bathroom where one officer fired, killing him. they believed he had a gun and that he reached for his waistband and no gun was found. the officer was dielted for manslaughter -- was indicted for manslaughter and those charged were thrown out. this is at the heart of deaths of unarmed black men after officers have not been indicted. the justice department announced they would investigate his death but six months later investigators haven't offered any updates or interviewed any witnesses to the shooting. in the meantime other high-profile cases have been pushed to the forefront. >> we can't go back to the local system. >> they hope to wrap up investigations into trayvon martin and brown before he leaves office said martin. >> if we keep fighting hopefully one day some change will come. it is not going to happen overnight. it will take time. >> we reached out to the justice department and the u.s. attorney's office of the southern district of new york which is handling the case and they have no updates and do not comment on ongoing 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president's recent executive action on immigration. but with news today that a federal judge in texas has sided with 26 states issuing an injunction temporarily halting the president's executive action the question today is could republicans possibly back down from a fight over legislation that would a. be vetoed, b. ties them to another perilous government shut down and shoot them down the root with another hispanic electorate. and to our geflts, thank you both for being here. >> hi joaquin. >> we do know each other. >> we are all family here. >> and joaquin, your organization is part of what is happening in texas, the ichb junction. do you expect that this particular judge will go further than this just based on dealing with this judge, and try to rule the entire dopa program out of order? >> well i'm not sure. it is still in the judge's hands. at this point we anticipate that the department of justice will appeal this at the fifth circuit court of appeals in new orleans. this is fat tuesday. so it is perfect time for abbott since it is his first state of the state. this is a temporary setback for immigrant families fighting for years to bring about this victory that president obama -- which president obama's executive order is a victory for immigrant families which is ashame that greg abbott -- >> i'll let you finish. but is it a setback. both people over 30 who could be subject to get this relief and also parents who would get action and would this make people afraid to apply even after this court process is over because wasn't that a problem before. >> for us the best weapon we have in our arsenal are the stories of dreamers who have come out of the shadows who are -- showed us years ago that they are undocumented and unafraid and that is what we need in this moment right now. as you said many of the people who would qualify for dopa and docka, are -- were inspired by the stories of their children coming out and showing they were unafraid. and we'll continue to -- for us we'll continue to organize with our information workshops to make sure that people have the documents that they need to prepare for the eventual processing of applications for app ligsations -- applications for expansions. >> and i have to talk to you about the politics because it does seem the language is an akronistic in what the states are arguing. what the judge's quotes the court finds that the government's failure to secure the border has exacerbated illegal immigration into the country. further, the record supports the finding that this lack of enforcement combined with the country's high rate of illegal immigration is significant. and then in kentucky, they say in states like kansas we've been working hard to address the problem of aliens illegally voting in our elections, the administration's action have set us back in you are efforts,in creeks the risk of stolen elections. and it sounds like mass running over the border. >> and this is very partisan and the juj is taking republican extreme -- extreme republican sound bites which i think is not only offensive but ruining the opportunity to have a real discussion on immigration reform. and if the republicans want immigration reform they need to present something -- pass something in congress so the president can sign something. but all of this thing with the ohio secretary of state, there is no evidence of voter fraud when it comes to undocumented. because if they were to sign the paper and go to the polls, that is a felony. they would be deported and they want to play by the rules because at the end of the day they want to participate in the right way. so unfortunately, not only is it bogus but showing a lack of leedsership to provide -- leadership to provide real legislation in this place. and the hispanic population looking to double. but we'll have you more when we have more time to talk about it. lisa and joaquin, thank you for join ug us. and a look at the scars that remain on businesses 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[ bop ] [ male announcer ] could've had a v8. two full servings of vegetables for only 50 delicious calories. as we approach the fifth anniversary of the deepwater whoize done oil -- horizon oil spill we are seeing the impact on america and whether justice was served in the aftermath. the exposition of the deepwater rig and the oil well on april 20th 2010 dumped millions of barrel of oil. but subsequent legal arguments, including how much was dumped and what the adequate punishment should be still royal in the louisiana waters today. and the host of the ed show here joins me. so big eddy talk about the over all big picture conclusion you came to after spending the time in the gulf was. did we fix this problem and were people made whole? >> no. there are a lot of people who have not been made whole. and that really is what this series is about. we went down there to the gulf to do a story and we just kept running into more facets to this story. it turned out to be a long-term series on this. everything has its anniversary but the fact is that -- and you can come up with studies and facts and figures, but the question is what are the people saying and how are the people living? and i think that is the best way to tell the story. and so tonight we're going to be going into the environmental impacts and also the health concerns that people have had. now bp has done some good things. no doubt. bp has paid a lot of money, but they haven't paid a lot of it. and people on camera have told us only 12% of the claims have been addressed. a lot of them are being fought in a big, big way. there is a lot of attorney action going on to make sure the people are held accountable. but there is no doubt the fisheries industry will never be the same in our lifetime. there is no doubt there is irreversible damage. and joy, this was my motivation to do start your because we've had a big discussion in america about the keystone xl pipeline and the road block is the nebraska land owners concerned about a disaster and so i thought let's go down to the gulf and find out what a disaster looks like five years after it happens. this is irreversible damage. the fishing and the industry is not the same. we're talking about careers lost. we're talking about finances that have been ruined. so the shrimp industry isn't the same. >> and let's play about that. and you spoke with a shrimper in louisiana and let's talk about that. >> his whole shell fell off. this should be shell going to the bottom. this is a cancer right here he got. >> that is a cancer right there? >> yeah. >> and you can tell by the color of the shell? >> the shell is gone. >> the shell is gone? >> yeah. you feel it. you feel it right there. it ate the shell up. >> does it strike you this was a failure -- an industries failure or a regulatory failure? >> well it was probably a little bit of both. there is plenty of blame to go sarn all of the way-- around all of the way. and the people in the gulf are not anti-oil. they work for the oil companies. they felt bp was the bad player. and there were road blocks along the way and a lot of work needs to be done and there hasn't been the attention paid to this. so five years after the fact there is a plethora of stories that need to be told. >> it is hard to believe it has been five years and this magnitude of harm is still going on. ed schultz, msnbc, big eddie and you can see the second installment of the five-part series, the gulf five years after the spill. tonight at 5:00 p.m. eastern on msnbc. that wraps things up for "the reid report." i'll see you back here tomorrow at 2:00. and visit us online ot "the reid report" on msnbc.com. 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