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now, as you mentioned, this investigation is being led by major general kenneth dahl. we understand that over the past few days, he's been interviewing several of bergdahl's platoon mates trying to figure out exactly what happened the day he disappeared in 2009. several of those platoon mates have said that bergdahl abandoned his post. one of them, former sergeant josh quarter, told me that general dahl asked him very specific questions about what bergdahl intended to do, what were the events that led up to him walking away from the post. now, bergdahl's attorney says that he won't discuss specifics of this case so far. he says that bergdahl has been transitioning well to life back here on regular duty here at ft. sam, houston. he's been at a desk job in the past few weeks. and bergdahl wants to thank president obama for saving his life. u.s. officials tell jim miklaszewski that so far bergdahl has yet to speak to his parents since returning to american soil. bergdahl's attorney, however, won't comment on that, joy. >> all right. nbc's gabe gutierrez, thank you so much. we're also following the latest on the two-star u.s. general killed tuesday in what's being called an insider attack at the military academy in kabul, afghanistan. moments ago, the defense department officially identified him as major general harold green, an engineer and deputy commander of the force that is charged with training and developing the afghan national security forces. nbc's jim miklaszewski joins us now from the pentagon. what do we know now about the investigation? >> the investigation is under way. the basic facts are still the same, that the general was killed by a lone gunman there at the defense ministry's academy yesterday as he and other americans were visiting. not only was general green killed, eight other americans were also wounded when that gunman opened fire with an automatic weapon. the big question now is, why did he do it? we have learned a little about the alleged gunman, and that is the fact that he was in the afghan army for about two years. he was in his mid-20s. and there's no indication, according to nbc personnel in kabul, that he had any ties, any communications with the taliban or that he had self-radicalized somehow, which is often the case in these green-on-blue shootings in which an afghan soldier suddenly erupts, opens fire on his american supposedly allies there in afghanistan. so that is one of the major questions being pursued, but u.s. military officials say as of now, there appears to be no direct ties between the taliban, any militant organization, and the gunman. the body of general green now is scheduled to return to dover air force base sometime tomorrow morning in that very ceremonial and somewhat somber but at the same time moving ceremony of the dignified transfer. whenever fallen u.s. soldiers and marines are brought home. >> yes, indeed. nbc's jim miklaszewski. thank you very much. >> okay, joy. >> joining us now is reuters' investigative reporter david rhode. thanks for being here. i want to start out with that general. what do you make of the fact that security was breached? really not breached. this was somebody we trained. but it was the equivalent of our west point in afghanistan. >> it's a major setback. the taliban may have, you know, had nothing to do with this attack, but they will use it for propaganda purposes. to have killed the most senior american officer since the vietnam war is a big achievement for them. beyond this insider attack, there's a very alarming trend, a series of attacks by the taliban in kandahar province in the south and in sort of rural districts, they are sort of gaining ground as u.s. troops draw down. >> at the same time, insider attacks, these green-on-blue attacks have gone down dramatically, david. you saw 53 americans killed in 38 such attacks in 2012. as of this year, it's been three americans in total in two attacks. so it does seem at least the threat f you want to put it that way, from our own forces, the guys we train, is going down, but as you say, afghanistan no less dangerous as we're on our way out the door. >> yeah, it's a short-term propaganda victory, the killing of this american general. the longer term issue is that the taliban are gaining ground around afghanistan. the u.s. is going to limit it to about 10,000 troops at the end of this year. then there's talk in the administration about a full pullout from afghanistan. given events in iraq as the taliban gain these districts and gain in rural areas, can the u.s. pull all of its troops out of afghanistan in the future. >> and david, i want to switch now and talk about bowe bergdahl. you cannot obviously read his mind. none of us can. none of us have spoken with him other than members of the military. what do you make of these stories that he still has not spoke within his parents? that his lawyer said he would like to thank the president, that he is now talking with investigators, but that he hasn't reconnected with his family as -- what do you make of that? >> i want to be fair. i was held captive for only seven month, not five years. i'll be honest. i'm puzzled. the first thing i did was try to talk to my family and frankly apologize to them. i went to a taliban interview i was invited to and was kidnapped. i felt real guilt about what they had gone through. i'm very surprised he hasn't talked to them and very puzzled by it. >> and the reintegration process they've talked about, getting him back to a desk job. at the same time though, you have after guy who his former platoon mates are still very angry. they're also part of this investigation. how long and how contentious do you expect this investigation to be? >> i think that the fact that the military is making it so public shows the amount of anger that exists in his unit and in elements of the military about, you know, what happened, did he desert his post or not. so the military is trying to have a very public investigation. this could be a controversy for a very long time. boug be bowe bergdahl should answer these questions. there may be a chance he was tricked by afghan forces to leave the base, something like that. but he should answer these questions. it's a major issue. i think it's a major issue for the military and the administration as to why this happened. >> yeah, and has obviously become like everything else a political football. you've had members of congress disapprove very strongly and very vocally about the deal that got bergdahl back. although, we do prisoner swaps at the end of wars all the time. i want to play you bergdahl's attorney and what he had to say about the politics of his release. take a listen. >> when a committee of the house of representatives holds a hearing in which witnesses are permitted to assert various nasty things about you and you're not afforded an opportunity to respond, i think there is something wrong with that. >> talk about the complexity of trying to get a resolution. because at the end of the day, it is in a sense political however this is resolved, if for instance, he is cleared or whether he's charged with desertion. whatever the outcome is, there's still a huge political component to it. is it even possible to have a resolution that's absent that? >> it's basically impossible. in a sense, you know, for his sake, you want to go slowly with this process. you don't want bowe bergdahl making statements to the american people as he's recovering from five years of captivity. it's a terrible ordeal he's been through. at the same time, at some point he should make statements to the american people about what's happened. he should explain what happened, you know, to members of the military, members of his unit. it's just the timing. our politics move so quickly these days. you know, it's really only been a one-sided narrative so far. but i do think it's important for him to answer these questions and to get his narrative out fairly soon. >> you've been a journalist a long time. have you ever seen anything like this? you have the situation where a prisoner of war comes back home, somebody who was kidnapped by the enemy we were fighting in afghanistan. and it's a source not of joy for the country but of absolute controversy 100%. have you ever seen anything like this? >> no, and we've never seen a conflict like this where you have these insider attacks in investigation. we live in a very strange time. the conflict in gaza, frankly. it's very different from traditional warfare. i don't think we're used to it as americans. but again, i think americans bereave in due process. they want bergdahl to be questioned, and they want to hear his side of the story. and he needs to make, you know, his own defense publicly at some point. he has to explain what happened. >> yes, indeed. all right. david, thank you very much. appreciate it. >> thank you. let's get an update on the ebola outbreak. the two americans who contracted the virus while on medical missions in west africa are both still recovering at emory university hospital in atlanta. both are said to be improving, though as of the last update, nancy writebol remains very weak. and mt. sainai hospital in new york is awaiting results to see whether a patient who checked in with ebola symptoms has the virus. more than 1700 people have contracted ebola. coming up, gaza's humanitarian crisis. israeli troops are gone for now. but the human suffering continues. i'll talk to the spokesman for the united nations relief agency about how his group is trying to help. then, i'll tell you want a the only women's clinic in mississippi where a woman can go for help, and the doctor who does what few others are willing to do. you're driving along, having a perfectly nice day, when out of nowhere a pick-up truck slams into your brand new car. one second it wasn't there and the next second... boom! you've had your first accident. now you have to make your first claim. so you talk to your insurance company and... boom! you're blindsided for a second time. they won't give you enough money to replace your brand new car. don't those people know you're already shaken up? 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[ female announcer ] stay strong, stay active with boost. so first of all, the answer to both your questions is yes. i think it was justified. i think it was proportional. and that doesn't in any way take away from the deep regret we have for the loss of a single civilian. >> israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu just a short time ago defending israel's attacks on gaza as, quote, justified and proportionate. as the truce in gaza enters its second and did anegotiations in cairo work out a longer term deal, residents in gaza are starting the grinding process of beginning to pick up the pieces from the four-week-old war. today, u.n. secretary general ban ki-moon said the u.n. will fly its flag at half mass on friday to honor its workers. however, the u.n.'s work is far from over. as the war has made it difficult for gaza residents to obtain the basics like food, water, and electricity, leaving behind a growing humanitarian nightmare. joining me now from tel aviv is a spokesman for the united nations relief and works agency. sir, thank you so much for being here. and i think that you've been among the most eloquent and really emotional about the toll that you've seen this war in gaza take, particularly on the children there. talk about how families in gaza are starting this process of just trying to go home. >> well, if you've had your home destroyed as a family, you've lost your past, you've lost your present, and your future looks very bleak. so that's both the physical and the emotional and psychological reality for children in the context of the family. we estimate, along with unicef, that there could be as many as 400,000 deeply traumatized children. that's about a quarter of the population of gaza. imagine an american city where a quarter of the population are shell shocked and traumatized. and by the way, if you're 6 years old in gaza, this will have been the third time in your short and fragile life that you will have been subjected to this extraordinarily traumatizing bombardment. i hope that gives you some kind of a thumbnail shot of what family life is like in gaza today. >> and you know, sir, when you look at just the numbers alone, they're really staggering. 1,814 civilians killed, 86% of them estimated to be civilians. at least 9500 people injured, including nearly 2900 children, more than 3,000 women, and about 520,000 people displaced, which is about a third of gaza's population. how does the u.n. even begin to grapple with trying to help such a sizable population of internally displaced people who can't leave? >> well, joy, thank you, first of all, for that very informed question. the figures you put out really does give very good evidence of the enormity of the task ahead. we have at the moment about 170,000 people in shelters. what people must remember is these shelters are schools. the schools go back in september. so we have a matter of weeks in which to clear out these facilities of people and try and return them home so that we can open our schools. now, the big problem there is that some of them don't have anywhere to go. so this catastrophic human displacement crisis looks as if it might transform itself into a homelessness crisis. and that's what we're facing. we are perhaps going to look at rebuilding a minimum of 10,000 damaged or totally destroyed homes. and even people, joy, who are able to get back to their homes may find themselves in homes which are no longer on the water and electricity grid because those things have been destroyed too. that plus the fear that we have that the industrial base of gaza may have been fatally damaged. we're talking about flour mills. we're talking about food production plants. we simply don't know until our engineers get out there and start the gargantuan task of site visits, literally surveying a place which is a small sliver of land but which is very, very overpopulated and dense. and the devastation is absolutely immense. gaza is a devastated cityscape today. and it's going to take a long, long time to rebuild. rebuilding it with the blockade in place is going to be more or less impossible. the thought there could be lasting peace with a blockade is also something which is very worrisome indeed. >> and you've heard the prime minister of israel and other officials saying that the bombing was justifiable and proportionate based on their charge u.n. schools were being used as hiding places for hamas militants and rackets. how do you address that charge, and how do you also -- what is also the status of the investigations into the deaths of your own people? u.n. people who were also killed in these air strikes. >> well, as you said in your introduction, the flags are flying at half-mast in u.n. facilities starting tomorrow because we've lost 11 members of staff. find me an american aid organization that in the space of a month would lose 11 members of staff and still stay there. but we're staying there because we realize the enormity of the task ahead is so vast. by the way, thank you, america. it's thanks to american tax dollars. america is our largest donor. we're grateful both to the consulate in jerusalem, where there are excellent diplomats, and also in the department of population refugees and migration in the state department who have done excellent work in backing us up here. but to answer your question, it's going to be -- it's a huge task ahead. i frankly don't know how we're going to do it. we did it last time. we'll need our donors. we'll need all of our external supporters. but let's see. because, you know, as i've said, there has to be some mitt call action now. we have long left the realm of humanitarian action alone. if we're going to prevent a repeat of this extraordinary upflare of violence in the next two years, there has to be some kind of political interaction. because, you know, looking at what the israeli prime minister said, the idea that there were militants in our schools firing out rockets is completely unproven. there is no evidence whatsoever that there were militants inside our schools that were hit. now, of course, it's possible that in the fog of war when we're not in our schools -- because quite often the israeli army will tell us to leave because battle is encoaching. it may be in that situation where the school is completely empty that militants got in. but where there were people, thousands of people gathered, escaping the conflict, having been told to leave their homes by the israeli army, where the israeli army was repeatedly warned by us. we gave them the gps coordinates of all our facilities, not just the ones that were hit. repeated calls on the phone. you know, there are people there. we warned repeatedly. we beg them. we pleaded with them not to hit our people. and in the end, look what happened. although the expressions of regret and apology or whatever are clearly to be welcomed to some extent, i was here five years ago when our main compound, for example, took a direct hit by white phosphorous. at the time, we heard israeli officials of all stripes, including the defense minister, apologizing, compensation was paid, there was utterances about this would never happen again, we'll take steps to avoid civilian casualties and u.n. workers and all the rest of it. here we are today, 11 u.n. workers dead. i'm not saying they were deliberately targeted by israel. nearly 2,000 civilians dead. we're where we were five years ago. frankly, we've learned nothing. so apology is not good enough. we need a proper investigation. because, you know, it's not just a matter of injuries prudential outcomes. if you're grieving for a loved one, this terrifying journey you're about to embark upon begins with the truth. you cannot grieve for something you know not of. that's what we need an investigation for in part. we need to help the victims of this conflict begin the appallingly pain traumatic journey of grieving. that's true of hundreds of thousands of people across the gaza strip. so it's not just about an investigation for justice. it's about helping people achieve their humanity in a situation which is so desperately devoid of humanity. >> yes, indeed. the task ahead does seem to be daunting. really doo appreciate you being here, sir. thank you. >> my pleasure, joy. thank you. okay. and now, three things you need to know this wednesday. missouri just put an inmate to death using lethal injection for the first time since last month's botched execution in arizona. michael worthington was executed early this morning for raping and killing his neighbor in 1995. the renisha mcbride case is now if the hands of the jury. deliberations began in the case against a detroit man who shot and killed the unarmed teen after he woke up to banging on his door in the middle of the night. at closing, prosecutors said that mcbride was just scared and wanted to get help after she'd crashed her car. the client's lawyer said he was scared 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afghan soldier. day two of the 72-hour negotiated cease-fire in gaza, and so far it's still holding. moments ago i discussed the humanitarian crisis with a u.n. spokesman. he said they have tens of thousands of people sheltered in schools, and they will have to leave when school starts in september. and it's day three of the u.s.-africa summit. president obama will close out the event with a news conference at 5:00 p.m. eastern, which we will bring to you live right here on msnbc. but right now in texas, a judge is weighing whether that state's highly restrictive new law that would effectively shut down almost every clinic that performs abortions in the state goes too far. for the third time this week, anti-abortion protesters and abortion rights advocates are lining the sidewalks outside an austin courthouse where a judge will decide if it's unconstitutional to force new stricter demands on women's clinics, making it tough for them to stay open. the courtroom showdown come on the heels of a decision by a federal judge in alabama who just ruled that the state's effort to restrict abortion providers tramples on patients' rights. and in another victory for abortion rights advocates, a u.s. appeals court last week blocked a mississippi law that would have shut down the state's last and only clinic where abortions are performed. the doctor there who was featured in a documentary called "the last clinic" has gone to incredible lengths to fight for reproductive rights. dr. willie parker travels from chicago to mississippi twice monthly to offer the procedure that no one else there is willing to perform. and dr. parker joins me now live from montgomery, alabama, where he also travels to provide abortions. sir, thank you for being here. >> thanks for having me. >> and so tell me whether or not you feel hopeful that judges in these cases will side with the clinics in cases where the access to abortion rights is being restricted in these states. >> well, i always remain hopeful that the facts will guide the decisions. the facts are that one in three women will have an abortion by the time they're age 45. so given that abortion occurs so commonly in such a part of women's reproductive decisions, i remain hopeful that courts will recognize any rules that attempt to prevent women from receiving this care will come down in favor of women. >> and let me ask you, sort of give you the devil's advocate position. people for these laws, called trap laws, say women have other options. when you look at where mississippi women actually go for abortion services, the pink house clinic where you work is 2,000 a year. but outside of that clinic, there are 6,000 abortions performed a year. so anti-abortion activists have used this to say, listen, women are already going out of state. they can already afford to do this. it really isn't a big deal to pass these laws. how do you respond to that? >> well, i would say that those may or may not be valid extrapolations from those numbers. for example, of the numbers listed, it's not really -- what we do have good numbers on is how many women have abortions at abortion clinics because those are regulated. abortion care can happen in doctor's offices. whether or not those get reported in the same way because they're an office-based practice is another different. the fact of the matter is women who rely on that clinic are often women who are in desperate circumstances. the patients i see frequently travel from hours away. it was tough enough for them to get to jackson. if that clinic wasn't there, many women would have no other recourse. it's really easy to say that women can go to other measures like leave the state and what have you, but that presumes that women have those resources. as i said, most of the women that i see are women who are in desperate circumstances. >> i want to play you a little bit of a clip from "the last clinic," the documentary you were featured in and get your reaction to what people outside this debate think of the tenor of the debate. >> the blood of those children is on your hands. you need to repent. you need to repent before it's too late. >> what you're seeing in america is going to be a revolution. the church is waking up. >> at pregnancy resource centers, we do sonograms, pregnancy tests. we want to turn her fears into confidence. >> do the people -- the clinics where you travel, and you're obviously traveling to different states, do you still face the kind of visceral protests at the clinics that we've seen in past year? and do you foresee a time when this debate will become less charged andle less heated? >> well, the fierce opposition to women making this what for them is a very sacred decision is ever present, at least in every place i've been. and there's a very vocal, well-organized numerical minority of folk who oppose abortion on religious grounds, that there's not another narrative makes it seem like their ground is a moral one. however, i'm on the board of a religious coalition for reproductive choice. just as there are those people who feel it's immoral and not christian, there's another position and another way to understand that protecting the choice and the decisions of women is equally sacred, and there are a lot of patients i see who also have a religious identity. so i don't foresee a day where those sincere, but in my opinion, misguided people will ever step down because they're convinced they're doing the right thing. but women who are making this difficult choice in the context of their faith many times also come to the conclusion that they're doing the right thing. so i think we're going to have to respect the fact that people disagree in that regard. >> yes, indeed. all right. well, dr. parker, thank you very much for being here. >> thank you for having me. , we'll be right back. i had no idea i had shingles. there was like an eruption on my skin and burning. i'd lift my arm and the pain back here was 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"the cycle" is up next. hello. what's going on today? >> hey, joy. >> nice to see you. appreciate your editorial. as you said, a lot of good cops out there, but also a question about accountability. today we've got a look at that sad news in afghanistan with the general shot and the implications there for the war effort. we got mark murray on the new nbc poll. jose diaz here talking immigration. a lot of fun stuff. >> all right. can't wait to see that. 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now, as you mentioned, this investigation is being led by major general kenneth dahl. we understand that over the past few days, he's been interviewing several of bergdahl's platoon mates trying to figure out exactly what happened the day he disappeared in 2009. several of those platoon mates have said that bergdahl abandoned his post. one of them, former sergeant josh quarter, told me that general dahl asked him very specific questions about what bergdahl intended to do, what were the events that led up to him walking away from the post. now, bergdahl's attorney says that he won't discuss specifics of this case so far. he says that bergdahl has been transitioning well to life back here on regular duty here at ft. sam, houston. he's been at a desk job in the past few weeks. and bergdahl wants to thank president obama for saving his life. u.s. officials tell jim miklaszewski that so far bergdahl has yet to speak to his parents since returning to american soil. bergdahl's attorney, however, won't comment on that, joy. >> all right. nbc's gabe gutierrez, thank you so much. we're also following the latest on the two-star u.s. general killed tuesday in what's being called an insider attack at the military academy in kabul, afghanistan. moments ago, the defense department officially identified him as major general harold green, an engineer and deputy commander of the force that is charged with training and developing the afghan national security forces. nbc's jim miklaszewski joins us now from the pentagon. what do we know now about the investigation? >> the investigation is under way. the basic facts are still the same, that the general was killed by a lone gunman there at the defense ministry's academy yesterday as he and other americans were visiting. not only was general green killed, eight other americans were also wounded when that gunman opened fire with an automatic weapon. the big question now is, why did he do it? we have learned a little about the alleged gunman, and that is the fact that he was in the afghan army for about two years. he was in his mid-20s. and there's no indication, according to nbc personnel in kabul, that he had any ties, any communications with the taliban or that he had self-radicalized somehow, which is often the case in these green-on-blue shootings in which an afghan soldier suddenly erupts, opens fire on his american supposedly allies there in afghanistan. so that is one of the major questions being pursued, but u.s. military officials say as of now, there appears to be no direct ties between the taliban, any militant organization, and the gunman. the body of general green now is scheduled to return to dover air force base sometime tomorrow morning in that very ceremonial and somewhat somber but at the same time moving ceremony of the dignified transfer. whenever fallen u.s. soldiers and marines are brought home. >> yes, indeed. nbc's jim miklaszewski. thank you very much. >> okay, joy. >> joining us now is reuters' investigative reporter david rhode. thanks for being here. i want to start out with that general. what do you make of the fact that security was breached? really not breached. this was somebody we trained. but it was the equivalent of our west point in afghanistan. >> it's a major setback. the taliban may have, you know, had nothing to do with this attack, but they will use it for propaganda purposes. to have killed the most senior american officer since the vietnam war is a big achievement for them. beyond this insider attack, there's a very alarming trend, a series of attacks by the taliban in kandahar province in the south and in sort of rural districts, they are sort of gaining ground as u.s. troops draw down. >> at the same time, insider attacks, these green-on-blue attacks have gone down dramatically, david. you saw 53 americans killed in 38 such attacks in 2012. as of this year, it's been three americans in total in two attacks. so it does seem at least the threat f you want to put it that way, from our own forces, the guys we train, is going down, but as you say, afghanistan no less dangerous as we're on our way out the door. >> yeah, it's a short-term propaganda victory, the killing of this american general. the longer term issue is that the taliban are gaining ground around afghanistan. the u.s. is going to limit it to about 10,000 troops at the end of this year. then there's talk in the administration about a full pullout from afghanistan. given events in iraq as the taliban gain these districts and gain in rural areas, can the u.s. pull all of its troops out of afghanistan in the future. >> and david, i want to switch now and talk about bowe bergdahl. you cannot obviously read his mind. none of us can. none of us have spoken with him other than members of the military. what do you make of these stories that he still has not spoke within his parents? that his lawyer said he would like to thank the president, that he is now talking with investigators, but that he hasn't reconnected with his family as -- what do you make of that? >> i want to be fair. i was held captive for only seven month, not five years. i'll be honest. i'm puzzled. the first thing i did was try to talk to my family and frankly apologize to them. i went to a taliban interview i was invited to and was kidnapped. i felt real guilt about what they had gone through. i'm very surprised he hasn't talked to them and very puzzled by it. >> and the reintegration process they've talked about, getting him back to a desk job. at the same time though, you have after guy who his former platoon mates are still very angry. they're also part of this investigation. how long and how contentious do you expect this investigation to be? >> i think that the fact that the military is making it so public shows the amount of anger that exists in his unit and in elements of the military about, you know, what happened, did he desert his post or not. so the military is trying to have a very public investigation. this could be a controversy for a very long time. boug be bowe bergdahl should answer these questions. there may be a chance he was tricked by afghan forces to leave the base, something like that. but he should answer these questions. it's a major issue. i think it's a major issue for the military and the administration as to why this happened. >> yeah, and has obviously become like everything else a political football. you've had members of congress disapprove very strongly and very vocally about the deal that got bergdahl back. although, we do prisoner swaps at the end of wars all the time. i want to play you bergdahl's attorney and what he had to say about the politics of his release. take a listen. >> when a committee of the house of representatives holds a hearing in which witnesses are permitted to assert various nasty things about you and you're not afforded an opportunity to respond, i think there is something wrong with that. >> talk about the complexity of trying to get a resolution. because at the end of the day, it is in a sense political however this is resolved, if for instance, he is cleared or whether he's charged with desertion. whatever the outcome is, there's still a huge political component to it. is it even possible to have a resolution that's absent that? >> it's basically impossible. in a sense, you know, for his sake, you want to go slowly with this process. you don't want bowe bergdahl making statements to the american people as he's recovering from five years of captivity. it's a terrible ordeal he's been through. at the same time, at some point he should make statements to the american people about what's happened. he should explain what happened, you know, to members of the military, members of his unit. it's just the timing. our politics move so quickly these days. you know, it's really only been a one-sided narrative so far. but i do think it's important for him to answer these questions and to get his narrative out fairly soon. >> you've been a journalist a long time. have you ever seen anything like this? you have the situation where a prisoner of war comes back home, somebody who was kidnapped by the enemy we were fighting in afghanistan. and it's a source not of joy for the country but of absolute controversy 100%. have you ever seen anything like this? >> no, and we've never seen a conflict like this where you have these insider attacks in investigation. we live in a very strange time. the conflict in gaza, frankly. it's very different from traditional warfare. i don't think we're used to it as americans. but again, i think americans bereave in due process. they want bergdahl to be questioned, and they want to hear his side of the story. and he needs to make, you know, his own defense publicly at some point. he has to explain what happened. >> yes, indeed. all right. david, thank you very much. appreciate it. >> thank you. let's get an update on the ebola outbreak. the two americans who contracted the virus while on medical missions in west africa are both still recovering at emory university hospital in atlanta. both are said to be improving, though as of the last update, nancy writebol remains very weak. and mt. sainai hospital in new york is awaiting results to see whether a patient who checked in with ebola symptoms has the virus. more than 1700 people have contracted ebola. coming up, gaza's humanitarian crisis. israeli troops are gone for now. but the human suffering continues. i'll talk to the spokesman for the united nations relief agency about how his group is trying to help. then, i'll tell you want a the only women's clinic in mississippi where a woman can go for help, and the doctor who does what few others are willing to do. you're driving along, having a perfectly nice day, when out of nowhere a pick-up truck slams into your brand new car. one second it wasn't there and the next second... boom! you've had your first accident. now you have to make your first claim. so you talk to your insurance company and... boom! you're blindsided for a second time. they won't give you enough money to replace your brand new car. don't those people know you're already shaken up? 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[ female announcer ] stay strong, stay active with boost. so first of all, the answer to both your questions is yes. i think it was justified. i think it was proportional. and that doesn't in any way take away from the deep regret we have for the loss of a single civilian. >> israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu just a short time ago defending israel's attacks on gaza as, quote, justified and proportionate. as the truce in gaza enters its second and did anegotiations in cairo work out a longer term deal, residents in gaza are starting the grinding process of beginning to pick up the pieces from the four-week-old war. today, u.n. secretary general ban ki-moon said the u.n. will fly its flag at half mass on friday to honor its workers. however, the u.n.'s work is far from over. as the war has made it difficult for gaza residents to obtain the basics like food, water, and electricity, leaving behind a growing humanitarian nightmare. joining me now from tel aviv is a spokesman for the united nations relief and works agency. sir, thank you so much for being here. and i think that you've been among the most eloquent and really emotional about the toll that you've seen this war in gaza take, particularly on the children there. talk about how families in gaza are starting this process of just trying to go home. >> well, if you've had your home destroyed as a family, you've lost your past, you've lost your present, and your future looks very bleak. so that's both the physical and the emotional and psychological reality for children in the context of the family. we estimate, along with unicef, that there could be as many as 400,000 deeply traumatized children. that's about a quarter of the population of gaza. imagine an american city where a quarter of the population are shell shocked and traumatized. and by the way, if you're 6 years old in gaza, this will have been the third time in your short and fragile life that you will have been subjected to this extraordinarily traumatizing bombardment. i hope that gives you some kind of a thumbnail shot of what family life is like in gaza today. >> and you know, sir, when you look at just the numbers alone, they're really staggering. 1,814 civilians killed, 86% of them estimated to be civilians. at least 9500 people injured, including nearly 2900 children, more than 3,000 women, and about 520,000 people displaced, which is about a third of gaza's population. how does the u.n. even begin to grapple with trying to help such a sizable population of internally displaced people who can't leave? >> well, joy, thank you, first of all, for that very informed question. the figures you put out really does give very good evidence of the enormity of the task ahead. we have at the moment about 170,000 people in shelters. what people must remember is these shelters are schools. the schools go back in september. so we have a matter of weeks in which to clear out these facilities of people and try and return them home so that we can open our schools. now, the big problem there is that some of them don't have anywhere to go. so this catastrophic human displacement crisis looks as if it might transform itself into a homelessness crisis. and that's what we're facing. we are perhaps going to look at rebuilding a minimum of 10,000 damaged or totally destroyed homes. and even people, joy, who are able to get back to their homes may find themselves in homes which are no longer on the water and electricity grid because those things have been destroyed too. that plus the fear that we have that the industrial base of gaza may have been fatally damaged. we're talking about flour mills. we're talking about food production plants. we simply don't know until our engineers get out there and start the gargantuan task of site visits, literally surveying a place which is a small sliver of land but which is very, very overpopulated and dense. and the devastation is absolutely immense. gaza is a devastated cityscape today. and it's going to take a long, long time to rebuild. rebuilding it with the blockade in place is going to be more or less impossible. the thought there could be lasting peace with a blockade is also something which is very worrisome indeed. >> and you've heard the prime minister of israel and other officials saying that the bombing was justifiable and proportionate based on their charge u.n. schools were being used as hiding places for hamas militants and rackets. how do you address that charge, and how do you also -- what is also the status of the investigations into the deaths of your own people? u.n. people who were also killed in these air strikes. >> well, as you said in your introduction, the flags are flying at half-mast in u.n. facilities starting tomorrow because we've lost 11 members of staff. find me an american aid organization that in the space of a month would lose 11 members of staff and still stay there. but we're staying there because we realize the enormity of the task ahead is so vast. by the way, thank you, america. it's thanks to american tax dollars. america is our largest donor. we're grateful both to the consulate in jerusalem, where there are excellent diplomats, and also in the department of population refugees and migration in the state department who have done excellent work in backing us up here. but to answer your question, it's going to be -- it's a huge task ahead. i frankly don't know how we're going to do it. we did it last time. we'll need our donors. we'll need all of our external supporters. but let's see. because, you know, as i've said, there has to be some mitt call action now. we have long left the realm of humanitarian action alone. if we're going to prevent a repeat of this extraordinary upflare of violence in the next two years, there has to be some kind of political interaction. because, you know, looking at what the israeli prime minister said, the idea that there were militants in our schools firing out rockets is completely unproven. there is no evidence whatsoever that there were militants inside our schools that were hit. now, of course, it's possible that in the fog of war when we're not in our schools -- because quite often the israeli army will tell us to leave because battle is encoaching. it may be in that situation where the school is completely empty that militants got in. but where there were people, thousands of people gathered, escaping the conflict, having been told to leave their homes by the israeli army, where the israeli army was repeatedly warned by us. we gave them the gps coordinates of all our facilities, not just the ones that were hit. repeated calls on the phone. you know, there are people there. we warned repeatedly. we beg them. we pleaded with them not to hit our people. and in the end, look what happened. although the expressions of regret and apology or whatever are clearly to be welcomed to some extent, i was here five years ago when our main compound, for example, took a direct hit by white phosphorous. at the time, we heard israeli officials of all stripes, including the defense minister, apologizing, compensation was paid, there was utterances about this would never happen again, we'll take steps to avoid civilian casualties and u.n. workers and all the rest of it. here we are today, 11 u.n. workers dead. i'm not saying they were deliberately targeted by israel. nearly 2,000 civilians dead. we're where we were five years ago. frankly, we've learned nothing. so apology is not good enough. we need a proper investigation. because, you know, it's not just a matter of injuries prudential outcomes. if you're grieving for a loved one, this terrifying journey you're about to embark upon begins with the truth. you cannot grieve for something you know not of. that's what we need an investigation for in part. we need to help the victims of this conflict begin the appallingly pain traumatic journey of grieving. that's true of hundreds of thousands of people across the gaza strip. so it's not just about an investigation for justice. it's about helping people achieve their humanity in a situation which is so desperately devoid of humanity. >> yes, indeed. the task ahead does seem to be daunting. really doo appreciate you being here, sir. thank you. >> my pleasure, joy. thank you. okay. and now, three things you need to know this wednesday. missouri just put an inmate to death using lethal injection for the first time since last month's botched execution in arizona. michael worthington was executed early this morning for raping and killing his neighbor in 1995. the renisha mcbride case is now if the hands of the jury. deliberations began in the case against a detroit man who shot and killed the unarmed teen after he woke up to banging on his door in the middle of the night. at closing, prosecutors said that mcbride was just scared and wanted to get help after she'd crashed her car. the client's lawyer said he was scared 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afghan soldier. day two of the 72-hour negotiated cease-fire in gaza, and so far it's still holding. moments ago i discussed the humanitarian crisis with a u.n. spokesman. he said they have tens of thousands of people sheltered in schools, and they will have to leave when school starts in september. and it's day three of the u.s.-africa summit. president obama will close out the event with a news conference at 5:00 p.m. eastern, which we will bring to you live right here on msnbc. but right now in texas, a judge is weighing whether that state's highly restrictive new law that would effectively shut down almost every clinic that performs abortions in the state goes too far. for the third time this week, anti-abortion protesters and abortion rights advocates are lining the sidewalks outside an austin courthouse where a judge will decide if it's unconstitutional to force new stricter demands on women's clinics, making it tough for them to stay open. the courtroom showdown come on the heels of a decision by a federal judge in alabama who just ruled that the state's effort to restrict abortion providers tramples on patients' rights. and in another victory for abortion rights advocates, a u.s. appeals court last week blocked a mississippi law that would have shut down the state's last and only clinic where abortions are performed. the doctor there who was featured in a documentary called "the last clinic" has gone to incredible lengths to fight for reproductive rights. dr. willie parker travels from chicago to mississippi twice monthly to offer the procedure that no one else there is willing to perform. and dr. parker joins me now live from montgomery, alabama, where he also travels to provide abortions. sir, thank you for being here. >> thanks for having me. >> and so tell me whether or not you feel hopeful that judges in these cases will side with the clinics in cases where the access to abortion rights is being restricted in these states. >> well, i always remain hopeful that the facts will guide the decisions. the facts are that one in three women will have an abortion by the time they're age 45. so given that abortion occurs so commonly in such a part of women's reproductive decisions, i remain hopeful that courts will recognize any rules that attempt to prevent women from receiving this care will come down in favor of women. >> and let me ask you, sort of give you the devil's advocate position. people for these laws, called trap laws, say women have other options. when you look at where mississippi women actually go for abortion services, the pink house clinic where you work is 2,000 a year. but outside of that clinic, there are 6,000 abortions performed a year. so anti-abortion activists have used this to say, listen, women are already going out of state. they can already afford to do this. it really isn't a big deal to pass these laws. how do you respond to that? >> well, i would say that those may or may not be valid extrapolations from those numbers. for example, of the numbers listed, it's not really -- what we do have good numbers on is how many women have abortions at abortion clinics because those are regulated. abortion care can happen in doctor's offices. whether or not those get reported in the same way because they're an office-based practice is another different. the fact of the matter is women who rely on that clinic are often women who are in desperate circumstances. the patients i see frequently travel from hours away. it was tough enough for them to get to jackson. if that clinic wasn't there, many women would have no other recourse. it's really easy to say that women can go to other measures like leave the state and what have you, but that presumes that women have those resources. as i said, most of the women that i see are women who are in desperate circumstances. >> i want to play you a little bit of a clip from "the last clinic," the documentary you were featured in and get your reaction to what people outside this debate think of the tenor of the debate. >> the blood of those children is on your hands. you need to repent. you need to repent before it's too late. >> what you're seeing in america is going to be a revolution. the church is waking up. >> at pregnancy resource centers, we do sonograms, pregnancy tests. we want to turn her fears into confidence. >> do the people -- the clinics where you travel, and you're obviously traveling to different states, do you still face the kind of visceral protests at the clinics that we've seen in past year? and do you foresee a time when this debate will become less charged andle less heated? >> well, the fierce opposition to women making this what for them is a very sacred decision is ever present, at least in every place i've been. and there's a very vocal, well-organized numerical minority of folk who oppose abortion on religious grounds, that there's not another narrative makes it seem like their ground is a moral one. however, i'm on the board of a religious coalition for reproductive choice. just as there are those people who feel it's immoral and not christian, there's another position and another way to understand that protecting the choice and the decisions of women is equally sacred, and there are a lot of patients i see who also have a religious identity. so i don't foresee a day where those sincere, but in my opinion, misguided people will ever step down because they're convinced they're doing the right thing. but women who are making this difficult choice in the context of their faith many times also come to the conclusion that they're doing the right thing. so i think we're going to have to respect the fact that people disagree in that regard. >> yes, indeed. all right. well, dr. parker, thank you very much for being here. >> thank you for having me. , we'll be right back. i had no idea i had shingles. there was like an eruption on my skin and burning. i'd lift my arm and the pain back here was 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