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Regards on race. That he violated no article of the nba constitution and that no punishment is warranted. Legally that may be an uphill climb. In part, because comments like this about Magic Johnson can almost certainly be used against sterling in a legal fight. I spend millions on giving away and helping minorities. Does he do that . Thats one problem i have. When they get successful, they will help their people, jews. Some of the africanamericans maybe ill get in trouble again they dont want to help anybody. Jeff is usa todays nba reporter and one of two reporters who broke the story of Donald Sterlings plan to fight the nba and warren is the executive editor of the sports law blog and also a professor of sports law at boston college. I want to start with you, jeff, because it was your reporting. You were one of the two reporters who broke this idea that Donald Sterling is actually going to fight this in court. Do you have any further details about the basis for this fight . None of us has read the end gate constitution, but he, i guess, is claiming he didnt even violate it. No, thats what he is claiming right now. He has a 1 billion team, and its not going to be easy to pry that away from him, and i think this is just the first step that he is setting up in which could be a long legal battle for the nba against Donald Sterling. Yeah. In fact, jeff, this was a report as well. In the past Donald Sterling has fought the nba and actually kind of won. He was fined 25 million for moving the team. There was and then fined 100 million lawsuit from l. A. To san diego without permission from the league. He fought that with the same lawyer maxwell blecher. Fought it, got that 25 million fine reduced to 6 million. He is litigious and also successful against the league. Do you think thats why he thinks he can fight . One thing also Donald Sterling, one, doesnt mind being sued, and he also doesnt mind suing all the same. I believe that the nba was bracing for this as well. They were waiting for his next step. The nba, while they want to the word theyve used before is expeditiously make this happen, i believe they also understand that this is going to take time, and you just dont take a team from someone overnight. It starts with small steps, and i think theyre continuing to build their case and Donald Sterling, on the other side, is trying to lay out his case for not taking the team away from him. And, warren, i want to talk to you about some of the nba side of this argument wrsht basis of their authority over these owners, over they are 30 owners, the key to the nba authority, according to the Associated Press, is article 13d of the leagues constitution. That section says that whether sterling intended to or not an owner cannot fail or refuse to fulfill contractual only fwagss to the nba in such a way to affect the association or its members adversely, and theres plenty of evidence according to the times that his comments, revealed in a recorded conversation with a female companion. It led sponsors to withdraw support and created a racially charged image problem in the midst of the playoffs that even president barack obama remarked on. In your estimation, is that enough for the nba to get away with this and for the nba to actually strip him of ownership . It certainly would. Their argument has been and theyve been consistent in arguing that theyve got this authority and interpreting their own nba bilaws and constitution. Theyve given broad latitude by the court system to do so. Theyre gauged in making decisions. For the most part theyve given legal authorities its interesting the bilaws are claiming where they have this authority and whether or not the conduct engaged by Donald Sterling meets that threshold. Unekwifically, the nba thinks it does. Were not talking about a First Amendment issue. This is a private entity interpreting its own rules. Dont those rules mean whatever the owners say they mean . To some extent they do. You know, he has given up control to abide by the bilaws and the system of justice that the nba has instituted by sign willing all the documents that the nba constitution has imposed upon him. Have there been efforts by the nba, and it will be an effort to find them. The lawyer is making an argument about due process. Once again, its an argument at this juncture because its a private association and its want a state act or and can impose that theyve done so. Theres another implied threat that were seeing coming. Not just from Donald Sterling, but also from his wife, shelly. Her lawyer on tuesday told the New York Times regarding this legal fight, and shes the lawyer said this. I want to know a lot of Different Things about the records of the nr ba and what information they have about the conduct or misconduct of other owners that was not acted upon. The nba is in as much risk as mr. Sterling to have this whole thing aired publicly. Its in everybodys interest to avoid armageddon. Based on your reporting, your knowledge of sterling and how he thinks and how he behaves, is it possible that one by the stem cell researchings might be to use discovery, use a lawsuit to basically open everybody up just to say all the owners are now on the table. We will trash and burn the entire nba ownership in order to either keep the team or make the nba back down. That certainly is the suggestion shes making. Lets not pretend that, you know, theres not something in some nba owners closet, but with that said, nothing has come out previously about these owners. So to think that, you know, theyre going to open something up that, you know, all of a sudden would be exposed, i have a hard time seeing that. Owners in this day and age are vetted quite thoroughly by the nba. From my perspective and its not a legal perspective, but it seems just to be a little bit of bluster to try to scare the nba and to backing down. What weve seen from the nba is theyre not ready to back down at all, and i dont believe that theyre going to. Theyve been firm and steadfast since day one on away they believe and what they want to do, and to that end i think they would be even willing to go that distance. Players may not want to play. Sponsors may back out or Television Deals may be broken. Theres clearly time thats certainly going to be of the essence in this case, but unequivocally, the nba owners are fefshent in their opinion that theyve made the right step here. The saga continues. Thank you so much warren and jeff. Thank you. Now a quick alert on the massive California Wildfires that have been burning for three days. We thought that we had the sucker beat this morning. Then, jeepers, about three hours ago, boom, boom, boom, three big black columns of smoke. It just took off like crazy. Tens of thousands of people have been evacuated and several homes destroyed as more than half a dozen wildfires continue to burn. Massive air tankers and a bunch of helicopters are helping firefighters on the ground to knock down the flames. The severe drought thats hitting about the entire state in the really hot weather are both making things much, much worse. Up next, stand your ground is back in the courtroom. The florida mom who fired a shot that hit no one is back in court fighting for her freedom. Plus, well explain the new government ruling that could forever change how you watch tv and use the internet. A very important ruling that you are going to want to hear about. Im sinora and this is my son, chris. Im a messy person. I dont like cleaning. I love my son, but he never cleans up. Always leaves a trail of crumbs behind. Youre going to have a problem with getting a wife. Uh, yeah, i guess. [ laughs ] this is ridiculous. Christopher glenn [ doorbell rings ] what is that . Swiffer sweep trap. I think i can use this. It picks up everything. I like this. Thats a lot of dirt. Its that easy good job chris i think a woman will probably come your way. [ both laugh ] think a woman will probably come your way. vo oh. My. Tongue. Finally. announcer allnew friskies saucesations. A taste experience like no other. In cheesy, creamy, homestyle, or garden sauce. Friskies. Feed the senses. Marissa alexander may have to wait until at least next month to find out whether shell get a new stand your ground hearing. Alexandra, youll recall, is the jacksonville, florida, mother of three who faces a possible 60 year sentence when shes retried in july. She was convicted in 2012 of three counts of aggravated assault with a Deadly Weapon for firing what she says was a warning shot near her now exhusband and his two children during a domestic dispute. The jury deliberated for just 30 minutes before returning that guilty verdict. Last year the conviction was thrown out and alexandra was released on bond to await a new trial. She was originally denied the stand your ground imunit defense, but her new lawyers are asking a judge to reconsider. During a hearing today they argue that the stand your ground law was incorrectly applied by prosecutors in the first trial. They also presented what they say is new evidence, including information that key witnesses have recanted their testimony and an alleged pattern of abuse on the part of alexanders exhusband that wasnt previously introduced, and expert testimony that they say the first legal team failed to present. Prosecutors argue that theres no need for another stabbed your ground hearing because nothing has changed since the first trial, and there was some debate about the warning shot bill, the bill that was passed by the state Legislature Last month, but has yet to be signed by governor rick scott. If signed, the law could provide immunity for a person who fires a warning shot in selfdefense, but its unclear if the law could be retroactively applied to the alexander case. Larry hannah is the courts reporter for the Florida Times union. He was in court this morning, and sena is a former prosecutor, and shes currently a civil and criminal rights attorney. You were in the courtroom. Could you get a gauge on how compelling the question of whether or not this new bill, the warning shot bill, how compelling that argument seemed to be from your perspective from the judge. To the judge. Interestingly, it was the judge who brought up the issue of the warning shot bill first before the lawyers had, and he basically said we need to figure out how its applied. He seems confused by it as well. He has clearly read the new law, but they have different views on that. It strengthened their argument, and the prosecution claimed it cant be retroactive and it cant be nothing to do with this ace. It sounds to me like those are the same things. We know in this case angela, the prosecutor, weve done previous reporting on the show that she owes pod the law. And the Prosecutors Office did send power points and why the law doesnt apply to alexander, or shouldnt, and we do have a law that is in limbo. It was passed by the state senate and by the statehouse, so it could be go to governor rick scotts desk, but it has not. The law is in limbo and also how it would apply to this case. Threshold question, joy. Was it a warning shot . That needs to be litigated separate and apart from whether the warning shot bill is in existence. Lets say it passes in time for the new trial. Or signed in time. Signed for the new trial. The defense will argue that it should be the law at the time of the trial. The prosecution will say no, because at the time of the incident that law didnt apply. Right. Follow . Make sense . They want to go by the law at the time of the incident occurring because thats more favorable to the prosecution. Right. That is what initiated the 1020 life bill that gave marissa this 20 years exposure for the incident. 60 years now because 60 for each for each individual. Exactly. Thats the problem. Theyre making her punishment worse. In the courtroom it seems to me that there was a much more vigorous case put on than was even put on in the first trial when Marissa Alexander was on trial with 20 years of her life on the line. New information introduced about witnesses potentially recanting information essentially about the domestic abuse. Do you get the sense now that you have a defense thats far more engaged and how did the prosecutors respond to those peetsz pieces of information being presented today . The defense now is to a certain extent a dream team. There was originally a lawyer from jacksonville that didnt have a lot of support. Angela has put two of her top prosecutors, rich and london on this. There are no lawyers from the first trial that are still prosecuting or defending this, and they have both prosecuted Death Penalty cases and prosecuted some of the most high profile cases in jacksonville. Its to a certain extent the a team for both sides now. Just quickly, youve bid on the story for quite a while. Does this case seem to be attracting particular passion on the part of this prosecutor . People recall this is the prosecutor from the zimmerman trial and from the other trial, the lawed music trial, as they called it. Jordan davis case as well. Do you think is there a different sort of aspect to the prosecution this time . I think the prosecution is frustrated because they feel as though the case hasnt been reported correctly. They get very angry when they hear it as a warning shot case. They insist it was not a warning shot that she was aiming at her estranged husband, and theyve sent a lot of emails out saying they want to correct the record about Marissa Alexander, and and i do think theyve taken some of the criticism to heart. They dont think the criticism is fair. One of the things that the judge seemed concerned about was setting a precedent by ordering another stand your ground hearing. This is a case being litigated about warning shots, whether it is or not. There was a new trial order. Not a new harnk. Not every single thing that happened before. To get a new stand your ground trial, one of the ways to get a new hearing, excuse me, is new evidence. New evidence. Not evidence that was available at the time of previous hearing. When were talking about expert testimony and that was available back then. Thats not grounds for a new hearing. However, when were talking about impeaching witnesses, so we have some of the witnesses testifying. Theyve recanted. Theyve changed their story. That may not be appropriate for hearing and it may be appropriate for trial. So see the difference . Its one standard for hearing, one standard for trial. To get a new hearing and that would be an appellate issue, which were not there yet. Where does this go from here . Whats the next step in this whole process . The lawyers for both sides have until the end of the month to file more briefs arguing their side. The judge is likely to decide early in june if she gets a new stand your ground hearing. If she gets one, it will be late june, early july. Then if this if the stand your ground is unsuccessful, we have a trial starting july 28th. Larry hannah, sema, thank you for being here. Thank you. Now, a quick alert on the gm recall. The federal government has Just Announced a 35 million fine against General Motors for its delayed report and recall of defective ignition swimpz. If the maximum penalty, the Transportation Department cant slap on a company. The faulty switches have been blamed for multiple crashes and at least 13 deaths. Gm issue thissed statement after the ruling. We are working hashed to approve our aeblt to identify and respond to safety issues. Well be right back. If i can impart one lesson to a new business owner, it would be one thing ive learned is my philosophy is real simple American Express open forum is an online community, that helps our members connect and share ideas to make Smart Business decisions. If you mess up, fess up. Be your partners best partner. We built it for our members, but its open for everyone. Theres not one way to do something. No details too small. American express open forum. This is what membership is. This is what membership does. I got more advice than i knew what to do with. What i needed was information i could trust on how to take care of me and my baby. Luckily, unitedhealthcare has a Simple Program that helps moms stay on track with their doctors and get the right care and guidancebefore and after the baby is born. Simple is good right now. anncr vo innovations that work for you. Thats health in numbers. Unitedhealthcare. That would be my daughter hi dad. Shes a dietitian. And back when i wasnt eating right, she got me drinking boost. Its got a great taste, and it helps give me the nutrition i was missing. Helping me stay more like me. [ female announcer ] boost complete nutritional drink has 26 essential vitamins and minerals, including calcium and vitamin d to support strong bones and 10 grams of protein to help maintain muscle. All with a delicious taste. Grandpa [ female announcer ] stay strong, stay active with boost. Grandpa grossemisconduct. Ortho crime files. Disturbing the pantry. A house, under siege. Homeowner calls in the big guns. Say helto home defense max. With the onetouch continuousspray wand. Kills bugs inside. And prevents new ones for up to a year. Guaranteed. Nothing to see here people. Ortho home defense max. Get order. Get ortho®. Time for we the tweeple. Today we want to start way couple of updates on stories we brought you earlier this week. The fight caught on camera between jay z and solange is still on your minds, and youve been waiting for them to speak out on the incident, which they finally have. Jay and bay released a joint statement to the Associated Press yesterday saying that jay z and solange have apologized to each other and all have moved on as a united family. Based on your tweets, you are glad to see beyonces sister and jay z saying their family has flaws like anybody elses. Youre also still talking about another family and its famous fee line. Tara the cat is reveling in her 15 minutes of online fame, which started with this viral video of her defending her tiny tot owner. Now the tough kitty is scheduled throw out the first pitch at a Magic Johnson<\/a> can almost certainly be used against sterling in a legal fight. I spend millions on giving away and helping minorities. Does he do that . Thats one problem i have. When they get successful, they will help their people, jews. Some of the africanamericans maybe ill get in trouble again they dont want to help anybody. Jeff is usa todays nba reporter and one of two reporters who broke the story of Donald Sterlings<\/a> plan to fight the nba and warren is the executive editor of the sports law blog and also a professor of sports law at boston college. I want to start with you, jeff, because it was your reporting. You were one of the two reporters who broke this idea that Donald Sterling<\/a> is actually going to fight this in court. Do you have any further details about the basis for this fight . None of us has read the end gate constitution, but he, i guess, is claiming he didnt even violate it. No, thats what he is claiming right now. He has a 1 billion team, and its not going to be easy to pry that away from him, and i think this is just the first step that he is setting up in which could be a long legal battle for the nba against Donald Sterling<\/a>. Yeah. In fact, jeff, this was a report as well. In the past Donald Sterling<\/a> has fought the nba and actually kind of won. He was fined 25 million for moving the team. There was and then fined 100 million lawsuit from l. A. To san diego without permission from the league. He fought that with the same lawyer maxwell blecher. Fought it, got that 25 million fine reduced to 6 million. He is litigious and also successful against the league. Do you think thats why he thinks he can fight . One thing also Donald Sterling<\/a>, one, doesnt mind being sued, and he also doesnt mind suing all the same. I believe that the nba was bracing for this as well. They were waiting for his next step. The nba, while they want to the word theyve used before is expeditiously make this happen, i believe they also understand that this is going to take time, and you just dont take a team from someone overnight. It starts with small steps, and i think theyre continuing to build their case and Donald Sterling<\/a>, on the other side, is trying to lay out his case for not taking the team away from him. And, warren, i want to talk to you about some of the nba side of this argument wrsht basis of their authority over these owners, over they are 30 owners, the key to the nba authority, according to the Associated Press<\/a>, is article 13d of the leagues constitution. That section says that whether sterling intended to or not an owner cannot fail or refuse to fulfill contractual only fwagss to the nba in such a way to affect the association or its members adversely, and theres plenty of evidence according to the times that his comments, revealed in a recorded conversation with a female companion. It led sponsors to withdraw support and created a racially charged image problem in the midst of the playoffs that even president barack obama remarked on. In your estimation, is that enough for the nba to get away with this and for the nba to actually strip him of ownership . It certainly would. Their argument has been and theyve been consistent in arguing that theyve got this authority and interpreting their own nba bilaws and constitution. Theyve given broad latitude by the court system to do so. Theyre gauged in making decisions. For the most part theyve given legal authorities its interesting the bilaws are claiming where they have this authority and whether or not the conduct engaged by Donald Sterling<\/a> meets that threshold. Unekwifically, the nba thinks it does. Were not talking about a First Amendment<\/a> issue. This is a private entity interpreting its own rules. Dont those rules mean whatever the owners say they mean . To some extent they do. You know, he has given up control to abide by the bilaws and the system of justice that the nba has instituted by sign willing all the documents that the nba constitution has imposed upon him. Have there been efforts by the nba, and it will be an effort to find them. The lawyer is making an argument about due process. Once again, its an argument at this juncture because its a private association and its want a state act or and can impose that theyve done so. Theres another implied threat that were seeing coming. Not just from Donald Sterling<\/a>, but also from his wife, shelly. Her lawyer on tuesday told the New York Times<\/a> regarding this legal fight, and shes the lawyer said this. I want to know a lot of Different Things<\/a> about the records of the nr ba and what information they have about the conduct or misconduct of other owners that was not acted upon. The nba is in as much risk as mr. Sterling to have this whole thing aired publicly. Its in everybodys interest to avoid armageddon. Based on your reporting, your knowledge of sterling and how he thinks and how he behaves, is it possible that one by the stem cell researchings might be to use discovery, use a lawsuit to basically open everybody up just to say all the owners are now on the table. We will trash and burn the entire nba ownership in order to either keep the team or make the nba back down. That certainly is the suggestion shes making. Lets not pretend that, you know, theres not something in some nba owners closet, but with that said, nothing has come out previously about these owners. So to think that, you know, theyre going to open something up that, you know, all of a sudden would be exposed, i have a hard time seeing that. Owners in this day and age are vetted quite thoroughly by the nba. From my perspective and its not a legal perspective, but it seems just to be a little bit of bluster to try to scare the nba and to backing down. What weve seen from the nba is theyre not ready to back down at all, and i dont believe that theyre going to. Theyve been firm and steadfast since day one on away they believe and what they want to do, and to that end i think they would be even willing to go that distance. Players may not want to play. Sponsors may back out or Television Deals<\/a> may be broken. Theres clearly time thats certainly going to be of the essence in this case, but unequivocally, the nba owners are fefshent in their opinion that theyve made the right step here. The saga continues. Thank you so much warren and jeff. Thank you. Now a quick alert on the massive California Wildfires<\/a> that have been burning for three days. We thought that we had the sucker beat this morning. Then, jeepers, about three hours ago, boom, boom, boom, three big black columns of smoke. It just took off like crazy. Tens of thousands of people have been evacuated and several homes destroyed as more than half a dozen wildfires continue to burn. Massive air tankers and a bunch of helicopters are helping firefighters on the ground to knock down the flames. The severe drought thats hitting about the entire state in the really hot weather are both making things much, much worse. Up next, stand your ground is back in the courtroom. The florida mom who fired a shot that hit no one is back in court fighting for her freedom. Plus, well explain the new government ruling that could forever change how you watch tv and use the internet. A very important ruling that you are going to want to hear about. Im sinora and this is my son, chris. Im a messy person. I dont like cleaning. I love my son, but he never cleans up. Always leaves a trail of crumbs behind. Youre going to have a problem with getting a wife. Uh, yeah, i guess. [ laughs ] this is ridiculous. Christopher glenn [ doorbell rings ] what is that . Swiffer sweep trap. I think i can use this. It picks up everything. I like this. Thats a lot of dirt. Its that easy good job chris i think a woman will probably come your way. [ both laugh ] think a woman will probably come your way. vo oh. My. Tongue. Finally. announcer allnew friskies saucesations. A taste experience like no other. In cheesy, creamy, homestyle, or garden sauce. Friskies. Feed the senses. Marissa alexander may have to wait until at least next month to find out whether shell get a new stand your ground hearing. Alexandra, youll recall, is the jacksonville, florida, mother of three who faces a possible 60 year sentence when shes retried in july. She was convicted in 2012 of three counts of aggravated assault with a Deadly Weapon<\/a> for firing what she says was a warning shot near her now exhusband and his two children during a domestic dispute. The jury deliberated for just 30 minutes before returning that guilty verdict. Last year the conviction was thrown out and alexandra was released on bond to await a new trial. She was originally denied the stand your ground imunit defense, but her new lawyers are asking a judge to reconsider. During a hearing today they argue that the stand your ground law was incorrectly applied by prosecutors in the first trial. They also presented what they say is new evidence, including information that key witnesses have recanted their testimony and an alleged pattern of abuse on the part of alexanders exhusband that wasnt previously introduced, and expert testimony that they say the first legal team failed to present. Prosecutors argue that theres no need for another stabbed your ground hearing because nothing has changed since the first trial, and there was some debate about the warning shot bill, the bill that was passed by the state Legislature Last<\/a> month, but has yet to be signed by governor rick scott. If signed, the law could provide immunity for a person who fires a warning shot in selfdefense, but its unclear if the law could be retroactively applied to the alexander case. Larry hannah is the courts reporter for the Florida Times<\/a> union. He was in court this morning, and sena is a former prosecutor, and shes currently a civil and criminal rights attorney. You were in the courtroom. Could you get a gauge on how compelling the question of whether or not this new bill, the warning shot bill, how compelling that argument seemed to be from your perspective from the judge. To the judge. Interestingly, it was the judge who brought up the issue of the warning shot bill first before the lawyers had, and he basically said we need to figure out how its applied. He seems confused by it as well. He has clearly read the new law, but they have different views on that. It strengthened their argument, and the prosecution claimed it cant be retroactive and it cant be nothing to do with this ace. It sounds to me like those are the same things. We know in this case angela, the prosecutor, weve done previous reporting on the show that she owes pod the law. And the Prosecutors Office<\/a> did send power points and why the law doesnt apply to alexander, or shouldnt, and we do have a law that is in limbo. It was passed by the state senate and by the statehouse, so it could be go to governor rick scotts desk, but it has not. The law is in limbo and also how it would apply to this case. Threshold question, joy. Was it a warning shot . That needs to be litigated separate and apart from whether the warning shot bill is in existence. Lets say it passes in time for the new trial. Or signed in time. Signed for the new trial. The defense will argue that it should be the law at the time of the trial. The prosecution will say no, because at the time of the incident that law didnt apply. Right. Follow . Make sense . They want to go by the law at the time of the incident occurring because thats more favorable to the prosecution. Right. That is what initiated the 1020 life bill that gave marissa this 20 years exposure for the incident. 60 years now because 60 for each for each individual. Exactly. Thats the problem. Theyre making her punishment worse. In the courtroom it seems to me that there was a much more vigorous case put on than was even put on in the first trial when Marissa Alexander<\/a> was on trial with 20 years of her life on the line. New information introduced about witnesses potentially recanting information essentially about the domestic abuse. Do you get the sense now that you have a defense thats far more engaged and how did the prosecutors respond to those peetsz pieces of information being presented today . The defense now is to a certain extent a dream team. There was originally a lawyer from jacksonville that didnt have a lot of support. Angela has put two of her top prosecutors, rich and london on this. There are no lawyers from the first trial that are still prosecuting or defending this, and they have both prosecuted Death Penalty<\/a> cases and prosecuted some of the most high profile cases in jacksonville. Its to a certain extent the a team for both sides now. Just quickly, youve bid on the story for quite a while. Does this case seem to be attracting particular passion on the part of this prosecutor . People recall this is the prosecutor from the zimmerman trial and from the other trial, the lawed music trial, as they called it. Jordan davis case as well. Do you think is there a different sort of aspect to the prosecution this time . I think the prosecution is frustrated because they feel as though the case hasnt been reported correctly. They get very angry when they hear it as a warning shot case. They insist it was not a warning shot that she was aiming at her estranged husband, and theyve sent a lot of emails out saying they want to correct the record about Marissa Alexander<\/a>, and and i do think theyve taken some of the criticism to heart. They dont think the criticism is fair. One of the things that the judge seemed concerned about was setting a precedent by ordering another stand your ground hearing. This is a case being litigated about warning shots, whether it is or not. There was a new trial order. Not a new harnk. Not every single thing that happened before. To get a new stand your ground trial, one of the ways to get a new hearing, excuse me, is new evidence. New evidence. Not evidence that was available at the time of previous hearing. When were talking about expert testimony and that was available back then. Thats not grounds for a new hearing. However, when were talking about impeaching witnesses, so we have some of the witnesses testifying. Theyve recanted. Theyve changed their story. That may not be appropriate for hearing and it may be appropriate for trial. So see the difference . Its one standard for hearing, one standard for trial. To get a new hearing and that would be an appellate issue, which were not there yet. Where does this go from here . Whats the next step in this whole process . The lawyers for both sides have until the end of the month to file more briefs arguing their side. The judge is likely to decide early in june if she gets a new stand your ground hearing. If she gets one, it will be late june, early july. Then if this if the stand your ground is unsuccessful, we have a trial starting july 28th. Larry hannah, sema, thank you for being here. Thank you. Now, a quick alert on the gm recall. The federal government has Just Announced<\/a> a 35 million fine against General Motors<\/a> for its delayed report and recall of defective ignition swimpz. If the maximum penalty, the Transportation Department<\/a> cant slap on a company. The faulty switches have been blamed for multiple crashes and at least 13 deaths. Gm issue thissed statement after the ruling. We are working hashed to approve our aeblt to identify and respond to safety issues. Well be right back. If i can impart one lesson to a new business owner, it would be one thing ive learned is my philosophy is real simple American Express<\/a> open forum is an online community, that helps our members connect and share ideas to make Smart Business<\/a> decisions. If you mess up, fess up. Be your partners best partner. We built it for our members, but its open for everyone. Theres not one way to do something. No details too small. American express open forum. This is what membership is. This is what membership does. I got more advice than i knew what to do with. What i needed was information i could trust on how to take care of me and my baby. Luckily, unitedhealthcare has a Simple Program<\/a> that helps moms stay on track with their doctors and get the right care and guidancebefore and after the baby is born. Simple is good right now. anncr vo innovations that work for you. Thats health in numbers. Unitedhealthcare. That would be my daughter hi dad. Shes a dietitian. And back when i wasnt eating right, she got me drinking boost. Its got a great taste, and it helps give me the nutrition i was missing. Helping me stay more like me. [ female announcer ] boost complete nutritional drink has 26 essential vitamins and minerals, including calcium and vitamin d to support strong bones and 10 grams of protein to help maintain muscle. All with a delicious taste. Grandpa [ female announcer ] stay strong, stay active with boost. Grandpa grossemisconduct. Ortho crime files. Disturbing the pantry. A house, under siege. Homeowner calls in the big guns. Say helto home defense max. With the onetouch continuousspray wand. Kills bugs inside. And prevents new ones for up to a year. Guaranteed. Nothing to see here people. Ortho home defense max. Get order. Get ortho\u00ae. Time for we the tweeple. Today we want to start way couple of updates on stories we brought you earlier this week. The fight caught on camera between jay z and solange is still on your minds, and youve been waiting for them to speak out on the incident, which they finally have. Jay and bay released a joint statement to the Associated Press<\/a> yesterday saying that jay z and solange have apologized to each other and all have moved on as a united family. Based on your tweets, you are glad to see beyonces sister and jay z saying their family has flaws like anybody elses. Youre also still talking about another family and its famous fee line. Tara the cat is reveling in her 15 minutes of online fame, which started with this viral video of her defending her tiny tot owner. Now the tough kitty is scheduled throw out the first pitch at a Minor League Baseball<\/a> game in her hometown of bakersfield, california. Of course, that is if tara the cat agrees to do it, although shes already shown she doesnt take orders from anybody. Now to another boss lady who is big on your minds. Barbara walters. Barbara walters, icon of television journalism, has officially retired today. The 84yearold was joined on her final episode of the view which aired this morning by heavy hitters such as oprah winfrey. Oprah then invited leading women in broadcast news to join the iconic anchor for her final goodbye. They posed together for this picture which oprah also tweeted out. First lashl Michelle Obama<\/a> joined in the well wishes for walters, but some of the most touching statements came from less famous faces like journalist noor tagouri saying its no argument Barbara Walters<\/a> has been a pine other for women in broadcast. For that i thank you. Now for something youre not too grateful for. Red lobster has just been sold for 2. 1 billion. According to reports, Darden Companies<\/a> that also owns olive garden has spun off the restaurant to private equity firm Golden Gate Capital<\/a>. Apparently red lobster hz disappointing earnings in recent years. The most important thing is the fate of their cheddar biscuit wrshzure so passionate about it youre tweeting things like this. One user saying, should have sold for 2. 1 billion in cheddar biscuits. Youre also sending tweets from this one like matt. I had my first cheedary bay biscuits, and i think Golden Gate Capital<\/a> spending 2. 1 billion for red lobster was a steal. I would know. My god mother tells me its delicious. If economied ar bay biscuits are that good, i might have to try them. Maybe. You can join the conversation with fellow reiders and keep telling us whats important to you and now this news. An update on tooss mine sdagser in western turkey. Heres the latest on the recovery effort by the numbers. Hey there can i help you . whispering sorry. whispering hi, uh we need a new family plan. whispering how about 10 gigs of data to share and unlimited talk and text. whispering oh ten gigs sounds pretty good. whispering yeah really good whispering yeah and for a family of 4 its a 160 a month. What get outta here whispering im sorry are we still doing the whisper thing . Or . whispering o sorry yes yes whispering well take it. We are the thinkers. The job jugglers. The up allnighters. And the ones who turn ideas into action. Weve made our passions our lifes work. We strive for the moments where we can say, i did it we are entrepreneurs who started it all. With a signature. Legalzoom has helped start over 1 million businesses, turning dreamers into business owners. And were here to help start yours. Net neutrality. Its a wonky techie term youve read about here and there in the past few months. Perhaps as a person that uses a computer or a smartphone or tablet or anything with wifi you have wondered whether you should care. Well, you should. We figured they have given new events unfold this week in washington. Now is a good time to bring you up to speed. Get it . If not, hopefully you will in a minute. For starters, the term net or Network Neutrality<\/a> is based on a principal that basic internet protocol should be nondiscriminatory. In short, the conat the particular time providers should treat all internet traffic egael. Zarchlgts a cavat would essentially create a fast toll road for those who can afford it and a slower lane for those who cant. That has some active itses for the open internet really fired up. On thursday protests have gathered outside as fcc Board Members<\/a> voted on and weighed in on these new proposed rules for the road for access to high speed internet. We cannot have a twotiered internet. With fast lanes that speed the traffic of the privileged and leave the rest of us lagging behind. The proposed Net Neutrality<\/a> rules and legal theories will stiffle innovation and investment by private sector and provide no help to consumers and thrust the commission into a place it shouldnt be. The result of that debate, a 32 vote to advance the proposal into a Public Comments<\/a> phase, which means the american people, you, get to weigh in before the rules are finalized. The question is what does all of this Net Neutrality<\/a> mumjo jumbo mean for you . Here to answer is aim ji, tech policy report for read code. Before we get started, we should mention that, of course, people get to the internet often by subscribing to a wireless provider like a sprint or verizon or from Residential Broadband<\/a> providers like bahhed broadband, who is the Patient Company<\/a> of this network. We did inread reach out to comcast on this story, and they directed us to their home page. Comcast remains committed to a free and open internet and is working with the fcc on appropriate rules for all players across the industry. Okay. Now, with that said, amy, explain to us what would change if the Net Neutrality<\/a> rules that were voted on 32 actually went into effect. What would change for ordinary people . When they talk about fast lane, its not like a fast lane that you would you can already buy Faster Services<\/a> if you want. This would be more like face lane that an amazon or a google or a facebook or a netflix could buy to get traffic to your house faster. Not all companies have the money to pay for that fast lane service. S Smaller Companies<\/a> or startups wouldnt be able to pay this kind of extra toll to get to your house faster. So meaning that, like, netflix could be more expensive, but the next netflix, the next thing youre going to binge watch couldnt get started because they cant pay for the faster service. Sflo exactly. You know, even netflix, netflix isnt going to necessarily want to pay all that extra money itself. Its going to pass that extra cost on to you, the consumer. I want to take a step back because i think where this all started was a decision that the fcc made in the first place, right . In 1996 congress wroefr hauled the Telecommunications Law<\/a> and the previous two new categories. Theres telecommunication services, which is Common Carrier Services<\/a> like your phone and then theres subject to broad fcc regulations and then there are information services, which are any service that allows people to store, process, any Public Information<\/a> online and those were actually exempt from most fcc regulations. Essentially the fcc itself biforcated and koreaed this new class of things, these Communications Organizations<\/a> that it really couldnt regulate. September that really where this all began . Theres still that doesnt apply, or at the time when the Bush Administration<\/a> was republicans who are in charge of the fcc, they didnt want to have a lot of regulation on internet lines because they want the whole industry to kind of grow unregulate the because they thought it would speed things up. Thats why the fcc is in the pickle its in right now. They dont want the old rules to apply, but congress hasnt made much of an effort to pass new rules to give them authority. They dont really have a thot of authority to Police Internet<\/a> lines right now. Cable Companies Like<\/a> comcast and at t freaked out and spent a lot of time and money sort of convincing lawmakers and regulators that was a really bad idea, and so the fcc basically dropped the entire proposal really quickly. I think the key now is, you know, are they going to do that again . Are they actually going to sort of stand up to the phone and Cable Companies<\/a> that are going to fight completely all out hands to the floor to try to kind of kill this whole idea . Now, there have been some activism from online really bloggers, people who run smaller web sites, that fear that without Net Neutrality<\/a>, without this open internet, you could theoretically have these multiple tiers also apply to the granular point of certain web sites based on their size, based on the traffic theyre serving. Also being charged multiple tiers. Do you see that on the horizon . Right. I mean, you know, theoretically, i guess Internet Companies<\/a> could do that right now. They really havent. The fcc has this Public Comments<\/a> period. They probably should use it if this care about this issue. Thank you so much for read codes amy. Appreciate it. Coming up 60 years after the historic brown versus the board of Education Supreme Court<\/a> ruling, desegregating the schools, we give a report card on the progress thats been made. My colleague Melissa Harris<\/a> perry will be here with some surprising answers. Ameriprise asked people a simple question in retirement, will you outlive your money . Uhhh. No, that cant happen. Thats the thing, you dont know how long it has to last. Everyone has retirement questions. So ameriprise created the exclusive. Confident retirement approach. Now you and your ameripise advisor can get the real answers you need. Well, knowing gives you confidence. Start building your confident retirement today. [ female announcer ] the sun powers life. And now it powers our latest innovation. Introducing the worlds only solarpowered home energy system, which can cut your heating and cooling bills in half. Call now to get up to 1,700 dollars back or special financing on select lennox home comfort systems. 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That was attorney general arab holder speaking to the naacp ahead of tomorrows 60th anniversary of the Supreme Court<\/a>s landmark brown versus the board of education decision, which ruled that segregation and Public Schools<\/a> is unconstitutional. 60 years later how much progress have we actually made . In a proclamation marking the anniversary president obama acknowledges, we have confined legalized segregation to the dust bin of history. Yet, today the hope and promise of brown remains unfulfilled. He goes on to remind the country progress has never come easily, but even in the face of impossible odds, those that lot of their country can face it. Tonight the president will meet with relatives of the plaintiffs and even two of the attorneys who argue that landmark case to thank them and to encourage them to keep fighting for future generations. Indeed, 60 years after james, Thorogood Marshall<\/a> and james wood stood on the steps against the doctrine of pratt bull butt equal, a new analysis of our nations schools finds theres much more work to be done. Joining me now to discuss the current state of the quality of education is the host of msnbcs Melissa Harris<\/a> perry, and i should add an educator in her own right, my pal. Melissa, it is kind of distressing when you look at the stats. Theyre kind of weird when you look at where the stats are worst. Theres new information that talks about new york city. New york city Public Schools<\/a> where more than half of all students have white student enrollment of more than 10 . New york state becomes the most segregated School System<\/a> in the country, and the south where people typically think about segregation, actually, statistically being, i guess, better off in terms of segregation . But barely. I think i mean, theres a lot of important lessons to draw from this. One, part of what happened after the end of legalized segregation or as the barriers begin to fall, very, very slowly it sometimes took ten, 15, 30 years in some places to get meaningful integration. What happened is families that could afford to vote with their feet to simply exit the public School System<\/a> did. You end up with cities that are maybe half white residents but public School System<\/a>s in those cities that areal 080 students of color because many of the white families have simply opted out. They just opt out. You think about chicago where Michelle Obama<\/a> went to school in a School System<\/a> that by the time all was said and done, was 96 africanamerican. You have, as you said, white flight out of schools. Not just out of neighborhoods. Often actually not out of neighborhoods. Especially as theres been the sexiness of moving back into the urban center. Even as families have moved back into the urban center, sometimes the sort of highest quality communities are right there in what we think of as the inner city. Yet, your schools dont become more integrated. Why . Because some parents opt out within the system to magnet schools or other kind of choice schools or they simply opt out of the system altogether into private schools. You also have even within the Africanamerican Community<\/a> the sort of selecting out because now have you this thing called charter conceals, which can implant inside of an inner City Community<\/a> and even they draw the families of color who are trying to opt out of the system leaving Public Schools<\/a> with what . With very little. Its tough. You and i are both parents sxwshgs so we know that when are you making a choice for your individual child, you can have political commitments and theological commitments, but your primary commitment as a parent is to make sure that the best Educational Opportunities<\/a> are open for that kid. That said, i think we do need to start thinking of an integrated classroom as a quality classroom. Part of what happens is we use these measurements for the quality of the classroom and the quality of the school that dont account in any way for racial diversity, right . Its only test scores or number of kids who go to college, which are meaningful, but i think the other piece of it is to say you are not getting a full education. You are not being indicated as a human being or as an american citizen if you are learning in a single race classroom. At the same time you have at the Supreme Court<\/a> level a complete retrenchment on issues of integration to the point where you have this decision in michigan saying states like individuals can just opt to decide they want no more affirmative action. Imagine that kind of being put up for the vote during the time of brown v. Board. People did vote. They just voted with their feet. They opted out of those schools. Part of what we have to do in the faes of a decision like that is its even more important, therefore, to determine that quality and slaul is associated with the Diverse Education<\/a> because what happens is so many colleges in particular competing with one another for best students, that if we think of that as valuable and the best students opt into schools that have that, then schools and states will make choices that make them competitive and that competitiveness ought to be also attached to diversity. If all we have at the marketplace, then we have to attach a value to that racial diversity in order to get the marketplace to provide it for us. I mean, there is this stereotype that this Younger Generation<\/a> is sort of beyond race. Right . Ewe Teaching College<\/a> students, and theyre coming to you. Do you see a generation of people coming to college where youre teaching the students and experiencing who understand the gravity sort of of where we are in terms of segregation and desegregation who understand kind of the moment were in in temz of the Supreme Court<\/a> . Do they really get that, or do they themselves think this is an argument about the past . I mean, i dont want to make big generational assumptions, and, you know, particularly the millenials are dealing with all kinds of things, particularly around an economy that felt to them and feels to them very reasonably sort of insecure, and so a lot of what theyre thinking about in their future whether they are white millenials or millenials of color are about their economic futures. That said, i think part of what im saying is College Classrooms<\/a> are one of the times where if students havent had this opportunity in the k through 12 experience where they ought to be having experiences that provide some more diversity and what we know as even when cloejz as a matter of population are diverse, often the classrooms and the social interactions are not. Its really incumbent upon the institutions, again, to create a value for that and to push towards making spaces where thats possible. This often tends to wind up like a blackwhite conversation. We know if latino students who are the most segregated in temz of their experience in primary and post secondary and secondary. We also know if you go to pure merit measures, that actually white students will often lose out to asian students and to immigrant students in general because we know theres this kind of return to quality with immigrant students, especially Second Generation<\/a> because their parents come and instill a whole variety of values. Again, we have to think about merit in the broader sense and that a diverse classroom is part of what is meritorious. It keeps us from being fully american and keeps us from being able to engablg in the world. I guess i cant risk asking you this question. Can you imagine a Unanimous Court<\/a> decision in 1954 saying separate but unequal is off the table, unconstitutional. We do seem to be sort of past the point where you can have that union nimty in the court in the service of diversity. Can you imagine Something Like<\/a> that on that board . Now putting ow the spot with this but this is so this is the great story of the naacp, which we dont have time, clearly, but the naacp and the naacp ldf Work Together<\/a> where you have a coordinated social movement that begins to shift the ground underneath and to coordinate the legal strategy that begins to push from the top and so the answer is yes. I can imagine it. In order to imagine it, i have to imagine a world of social movement underneath and Community People<\/a> that are also engaged with that kind of legal strategy. We cant just wait for the court to do justice. Yeah. I think that is it. Theyre not in isolation. They are part of society. Melissa harris perry, who better to talk on this topic. What is coming up this weekend . Were going to do a little beyonce and New York Times<\/a> and brown versus board of education. You had me at beyonce. Host of the economist. 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Your ticket to a better nights sleep today is the day that according to organizers some ten million americans will march on washington as part of Operation American<\/a> spring, beginning of tyranny house cleaning. A movement designed to overthrow the current government and replace it with one more to the liking of the far right. Heres a look at the national mall. Tens of millions of people have shown up to occupy the capital, and earlier today cameras caught about 300 people, organizing near the air and space museum. The protesters want to force the leadership of congress, both republican and democratic, along with president obama, Vice President<\/a> joe biden, and attorney general eric holder to resign. The patriots for america, the organizers of todays mass rally, have billed it as a peaceful, nonviolent, physically unarmed spiritually constitutionally armed display of unswerving loyalty to the u. S. Stgs and against the incumbent government leadership until washington d. C. With the mission to replace with lawabiding leadership. Either rand or ron paul, scott walker, pete sessions, trey gowdy, and someone maimed jordan. Michael, maybe . They will assume positions of authority to convene investigations, recommend appropriate charges against politicians and Government Employees<\/a> to the new u. S. Attorney general appointed by the new president. Operation American Spring<\/a> is the brainchild of a retired aernl colonel named harry riley who is rallying his 372 twitter followers along with his face bobbing friends and readers of web sites like world net daily and who is called for the same revolution before. In december and january and again in february to no avail. He would lead a military coo against the u. S. Government if necessary. Its also being live streamed today on before its news. Com. Rileys group is associated with the militia movement, and its not surprising theyve planned a protest in bunkerville, mav nav, home to cliven bundy and his welfare militia. Bubdy, of course, was way ahead of the curve on the whole not recognizing the legitimatety of the federal government thing. Here he is in his latest comments to the media. Were want going to put up with a patsey government anymore. Were want going to do that no more. Were not fwog have them put down our coats. We the people are not going to have that happen ever again. Also want twoing pay our fine. Now, while its ful fun to poke fun at these guys, the fact is theres a long history of extreme reactions to the perception of being political marginalized. Whether its this group or the John Birch Society<\/a> or Citizens Commission<\/a> on benghazi, a collection of birthers, antimuslim activists and conspiracy theyrists that are providing grit for the benghazi investigations and fundraising mill and conservative media and in congress. There appears to be not much happening. We will continue to keep a weather eye on them. That wraps things up for the reid report today. Have a great weekend. Ill see you back here monday at 2 00 p. M. Eastern and be sure to visit us online at the reid report. Nbc. Com. You know whats coming up . Cycle. How are you dwog . Happy friday. Hi. Happy friday to you. We have a lot going on. Its going tore another great show. Were going to talk about Tim Geithners<\/a> book and about obamas upcoming west point address. Were going to have luke russert on and talk about his how his fathers book about his lukes grandfather. Were going so to have the great Willy Randolph<\/a> who also managed the mets. 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Get started at viagra. Com. Breaking rint cycle. Fire, wind, rain, snow. Another weekend of wild weather shaping up. What you need to know from coasttocoast. Also, new developments on the president s agenda. He is bridging from infrastructure to Foreign Policy<\/a>. Whats he hoping to accomplish . At this point in his presidency, what can he accomplish . Tim geithner is out with his take on the football meltdown. Three generations of greatness on one show. Thats the cycle. From the birth of our existence, america has had a faith in the future. A belief that where were going is better than where weve been. We are americans and our destiny is never written for us. It is written by us, and we are ready to lead once more. Class of 2010. Dismissed. In just a few days president obama heads back to the u. S. Military academy at west point to deliver the commencement address as commander in chief. Its a tradition as old as the hat toss itself. 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