Lockette began struggling violently, groaning and writhing. After several minutes officials pulled the curtain on the death chamber. Lockette eventually died of a massive heart attack. It was determined that he was sedated approximately seven minutes into the execution. At that time, we began pushing the second and third drugs in the protocol. There was some concern at that time that the drugs were not having the effect. 46yearold Charles Warner was scheduled to be put to death an hour later for the kidnapping and rain of an 11monthold girl. But in the chaos following lockettes execution, governor fallen ordered a 14day stay of the execution while officials evaluate the lethal dosage protocol. Before last night that drug protocol had been the source of fierce legal debate. Several companies are refusing to supply the drug because of growing backlash and threats of attack. They refused to make the names of their suppliers public. Now, critics of the Death Penalty like the aclu of oklahoma are calling for a moratorium on executions altogether. Joining me now, sister seimone sam bell, author of a fnun on the bus. Thank you for being here. Thank you. In a case like this, sister, where you have a crime that is horrific. Yes. A person for whom no one has sympathy but you have a process for the state, the state killing this person, is also horrific. How do you balance the justice being meated out to someone who everyone believes did it and the state not being involved. For me as a person of faith, my faith teaches that all life is treasure, all life has dignity. And even the most horrific person who commits the most horrific crime has a dignity that should be respected. The state killing in my name is wrong. It is as horrible as any other murder. And so from my faith i say, no, Capital Punishment is not the way to go. What weve been trying to do is use these drugs so it masks the reality of killing this horrific event last night raised up the fact that is killing and its wrong. It takes me back to the Thomas Edison era when they first experimented with using the electric chair as opposed to hanging or firing squad. Theres all of this sort of methodology is what were arguing about, how to do it. We still arent arguing about whether or not to do it. Right. Sister health pre helen pre prejean has worked on this issue, the issue thats based in the common good. It is never within the common good to kill another under any circumstance. Yes, being in jail, being in prison, thats an appropriate response. But killing in the name of the common good . That is totally out of kilter. We do now have the jay carney statement he made during the White House Briefing about the failed execution or about the botched execution. Lets listen to that now. In this case, these cases, the crimes are indisputably horrific and heinous. But its also the case that we have a fundamental standard in this country that even when the Death Penalty is justified, it must be carried out humanely. I think everyone would recognize that this case fell short of that standard. So i mean, sister seimone, this is on the scale of wrongs, trying to do this horrible thing that we do, this thing that is legal in the United States, to do it more humanely, is there room on the social justice side of the argument to focus on that . On that piece, on doing this thing that you find to be wrong but doing it humanely . Well, i think at a minimum, that if states are going to pursue it, it needs to be done in a way that does not shock our conscience like last nights event does. The other factor that needs to be looked at is the Economic Analysis that who is subject to the Death Penalty. On capitol hill today, there was a lot of conversation about poverty and about the cycle of poverty. One of the great factors is those who get sentenced to death are often those, i think, always almost those from lowincome communities, so that poverty, race and other factors need to be looked at as we examine this horrific event that happened last night. Of course not in this particular case but you also do have the fact that a study recently found that of more than 7,000 death sentences, 1. 6 of those people on death row had been exonerated. You also do have this other issue of not being able to be 100 certain and given more resources, apparently, 4 of more than 200 people who have been exonerated, 200 people who would have been wrongly put to death had they not had their cases reexamined. Theres that risk, too. Absolutely. We as a society should err on the side of affirming life. The other point is someone who lives in prison with the knowledge of what they did, i think that in some ways is a much more painful not in the physical sense of reality but having to assimilate what youve done, theres a greater chance for conversion for change and for being a better person as a result of it. Its a better way forward in society. Not to mention our being in a fraternity of nations that do this with syria and north korea. Sister seimone, thank you for being here. Thank you. Honored to do it. The powerful storm system thats cut a trail of death and destruction across the south. Florida governor rick scott declared a state of emergency in 26 counties due to severe flooding across the pan hand. This picture from pensacola shows how bad it is. Entire streets have been turned into rushing rivers. Crews are going house to house to rescue residents who are trapped on the second floors of their homes. 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We have got this tail spin of culture in our inner cities in particular of men not working and generations of men not even thinking about working or learning the value and the culture of work. Theres a real culture problem here that has to be dealt with. Uhhuh. The tape doesnt lie. It caused an uproar. Ryan later said he had been inarticula inarticulate. Who knew charles murray, the guy that wrote the bell curve was offensive to anybody. Heres what was said after todays meeting wrapped up. We appreciate chairman ryan coming to our meeting. Didnt get a whole lot accomplished but we do agree on a number of things, one is that we are both concerned about the poverty in this country. We just disagree on how we address the problem. What is good out of this, we need to talk about better ideas on getting at the root cause of poverty to try and break the cycle of poverty. Okay. Thats not exactly what youd call a breakthrough. Congressman ryan claims he wants to help the poor. He even has ideas for that which you can find in his latest Budget Proposal which repeals the Health Care Law even after 8 Million People signed up for it and it guts every program men the to help people who are left out of the economic poverty, including turning medicare into a voucher. It ends funding for pbs. Paul ryan wants to fire big bird. That must have been an interesting meeting. Joining me now, california democrat barbara lee, one of the members of the Congressional Black Caucus. Congresswoman, thank you so much for being here. My pleasure. Before i get to that, i want to circle over, just let you know the minimum wage bill was just defeated which im sure you know. I want to give you a chance to weigh in on it after listening to harry reids statement about what just happened. Take a listen. Raising the minimum wage is so important. People care. People desperately need this money. We are happy to compromise. But we are not going to compromise on locking people in to poverty. So congresswoman you were just having a meeting talking about to congressman paul ryan about poverty and right over in the other chamber, a bill to raise the minimum wage fails. Your thoughts . Well, let me say, joy, thank you for inviting me to be with you. I have to say im very, very sad. And really, you know, unbelievably shocked that the senate would not pass raising the minimum wage minimally. We want a living wage. When you raise the minimum wage, this lifts millions of people out of poverty. They did pass, however, the extension of Unemployment Compensation. Here Speaker Boehner wont even allow the extension of Unemployment Compensation legislation to come up here on the house floor. You know, in california, thats 513,000 people who have lost unemployment. Theyre living on the edge, on the brink. Combined with the extension of Unemployment Compensation, not being passed, now not being able to raise the minimum wage, youre talking about a scenario thats going to force more people to live below the poverty line. Its really a shame and disgrace and the wealthiest and most powerful country in the world, joy. For the life of me, i dont understand why republicans dont believe that many in their districts are living below the poverty line. Many are part of the working poor. Theyve got to begin to represent their constituents by supporting efforts to lift them out of poverty. So i mean, did you i mean, you had congressman paul ryan there, a republican colleague, a leader on the House Budget Committee there. Did you ask him about those pragmatic issues, about policy and why his party doesnt support things like raising the minimum wage . Theres a different philosophy, joy. When you look at the ryan republican budget, im on the budget and appropriations committee. You see an erosion, a decimation of the safety net. You see over 140 billion in pell grants being cut, you see heads start being cut, food stamps to the tune of 138 billion being cut. You see each and every Safety Net Initiative begun under the Great Society under president johnson which has lifted people, millions out of poverty. You see these safety net programs decimated. We had a hearing today. Most of what we heard in the hearing, except for one of our witnesses, dr. Marian wright edelman, we heard about programs that work. Which were fine. Were talking about Public Policies and a budget that creates jobs and opportunities for everyone, not pathways into poverty. What do you think was accomplished by sitting down with congressman ryan today . First of all, i have to thank our chair, congresswoman marsha fudge for inviting him to our meeting and the conversation and the debate has begun. For so long we havent talked about poverty. We have not talked about income inequality. Weve not talked about opportunity and we have not talked about race. Now were beginning to have these discussions. We have to continue with this debate so we can afford everyone the opportunity to live the american dream. Lastly, congresswoman, did you talk about congressman ryans remarks, his remarks about inner city culture, did that come up . Of course, you know, weeks ago when the congressman, chairman ryan made these remarks, i had to just say what i felt. And i really believed that, you know, what he said was really inappropriate. It was, as he said, though, inarticulate. That was his response to that. We talked a little bit about that. We moved on. It was important to communicate for myself at least, and others, that chairman ryan understand that poverty is not only in the africanamerican and latino community. This is an american issue. Its an american problem. He needs to really understand that we have to create a budget, and opportunities for all and leave no one behind. We have to have that debate and its got to be part of our income inequality, poverty and race debate that i believe is beginning in this country. All right. Definitely beginning in the United States house of representatives with that meeting today. Congressman barbara lee, thank you very much. Thank you. Lets introduce angela wright. Angie, you know the members of the Congressional Black Caucus very well. As their former counsel. What do you think of this idea of sitting down with paul ryan and then coming out and doing a presser on that today . What in your estimation, what was the goal of doing this . Joy, it was twofold. One was paul ryan needs to be accountable to his remarks. What better entity to hold him accountable than 43 africanamerican members of congress known as the conscience of the congress. They have introduced policies and bills since their founding to ensure that the voiceless have a voice and they have advoca advocates. Paul ryan needed to be accountable, not only to these must bes but to all of congress, all of his colleagues in congress and all of the country, in part because its not just reflective in what he said, joy, its also reflective in the policies hes pushing in his budget or not pushing in his budget, right . Hes been on this listening tour throughout the country, listening to issues that people that are lower income face. Hes had this hearing today, war on poverty hearing today. Yet we still havent seen anything come to bear that reflects policies that would help to lift people out of their circumstances. So today he heard from the members of the cbc, urging him to do just that. One takeaway that ive heard about already is congressman clyburn has been pushing initiatives for some time now called the 10, 20, 30 plan. Paul ryan from what i understand is urging the Budget Committee to hear from the cbc on that. I think well meet more in depth, both with mr. Clyburn and with congresswoman fudge to talk about it. The 10, 20, 0 plan would direct 10 of federal public resource those communities that have People Living at the 20 20 of the People Living at or below the poverty line for the last 30 years. So i think its a step forward. But there is a whole lot more work to do with these 5. 1 trillion in his budget that was passed by the house just last week. What you said about 10, 20, 30 is the most hopeful thing ive heard in the last ten minutes. When i was listening to the congresswoman, i was like they are talking past each other. What you just said is something worth following up on. Really appreciate that piece of breaking news. Thank you so much. No problem. Thanks, joy. Coming up, the clippers are riding high on last nights playoff win as owner Donald Sterling is on his way out the door. But is he really . Two nba greats weigh in on that and whether the nbas punishment goes far enough. 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