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MSNBCW For The Record With Greta April 20, 2017 22:00:00

Assumption that there is a price somehow for which kim jongun and his predecessor, his father and his grandfather, would give up this Nuclear Program. Im not sure thats right because the Nuclear Program, to their mind, is the one thing that guarantees their survival. And the moment that they give it up, theyre in the position that Mow Mar Qaddafi was in when he gave up his nas entitle Nuclear Program in 2003. And he got a lot of promises of integration with the west and of course as soon as his people turned on him, the United States and europe and the arab states all joined in to drive him from power. The koreans were very, very aware of this and i would doubt that there is a price out there for which they would give up everything. And therein lies the big problem. Let me go to you, ambassador. We tend to look at this through our own eyes, thinking like, why in the world would anyone want to risk being even using the artillery on the southern border north korea. As others said if they give up their nuclear weapons, whats to stop south korea or the United States from somehow invading north korea. They want those guarantees. The second thing is that we have long said that were not going to even talk with north korea diplomatically unless they first give up their Nuclear Program. Well, that hasnt worked so maybe we need to sit down and see immediately and see what we can do to move forward. Howard, that also brings us a little to davids point. If there is nothing to get them diplomatically to give up their weapons, theres nothing we can offer them if theyre not going to do it, theyre not going to do it. And is it just sort of a cat and mouse game . We dont have to worry about them using the artillery on the Southern Border Against Seoul . I see that as the more imminent danger. Thats definitely tactically strategically what they do with their nuclear arms. This is a pattern donald trump certainly wont like. The iranian deal, people like it or they loath it. The state Department Said the other day that its working. Donald trump is skeptical. But the hard liners in iran think that the iranians gave away too much when they allowed the amount of inspection and control that they we now have in that country. Maybe as controversial as it is, there is a model there in iran that we could use in korea. Except let me go back to you, david. The whole issue about i mean, theyre just not going to give it up. They see what happens to gaddafi when he went up, everyone went in and qaddafi is dead. That struck a note with them. To howards point on inspection, one of the advantages that everybody had in the iran nuclear deal, whether you like the deal or hate the deal, is they hadnt built weapons yet. And we knew pretty much where all of their major Production Facilities were. North korea is a much more complicated state. Theyve got somewhere between ten and 20 weapons and theyve dispersed them. We dont know the exact number. We think, but we dont know for certain where all of their Production Facilities are. They have never allowed inspectors to go beyond the main reactor complex north of the capital. And even if they did, finding all of these weapons and finding the Production Facilities in a nation as mountainous, for bidding and secretive as north korea would be quite a job. So, its an Inspection Problem from hell that actually makes the iran inspection issues look relatively simple. Howard, maybe we should just we tried so many things. Maybe if we ignore them. If theyre four years off on the nuclear weapons, theyre probably not going to fire the y artillery at south korea. I dont think we can ignore them. On one hand you cant take it face value, ridiculous statements theyre going to use a super weapon to destroy america. They could destroy seoul. They could do a lot of damage. You could not ignore them. And the whole world has to keep paying attention. It is the Inspection Problem from hell, but it might be the one we have to go to. If there is going to be any change. Gentlemen, thank you. One thing we need to remember one thing we need to remember is china does not want the south to ever take over the new york times. They dont want a unified korean peninsula. They dont want democracy on their door steps. China has every incentive to keep the north korean regime going, but they know in order to do that theyve got to help us stop north Koreas Nuclear development program. The problem is theyve known that for years and they havent done anything. Thats the whole problem. We end up back in a circle because this is just an impossible situation. But im going to take the last word. Gentlemen, thank you. Thank you. Still ahead, is the Republican Health care bill back from the dead . Could a vote on the house floor really happen next week . And if you are covered under obamacare, should you be worried . Thats ahead. Also, Attorney General Jeff Sessions under fire for comments he made about a judge in hawaii. We will tell you what the Attorney General said and what it has to do with President Trumps travel ban. Plus, outrage over a new plan to charge our Vets Thousands of dollars to use the g. I. Bill to get an education. Well talk to a vet who is fighting back, and this. I didnt know i was going to get arrested. Neither did i. We came in for testing. Please dont touch me. Disturbing video of a 10yearold boy with autism put into handcuffs, hauled way from his mother and detained overnight. Why did this happen . Was it legal . Thats ahead. Dear predictable, theres no other way to say this. Its over. Ive found a permanent escape from monotony. Together, we are perfectly balanced, our senses awake, our hearts racing as one. I know this is sudden, but they say if you love something. Set it free. See you around, giulia this for two months, maybe even less than that. The plan gets better and better and better, and its gotten really, really good. And a lot of people are liking it a lot. We have a good schans chance ofg it soon. Id like to say next week, but i believe we will get it. A confident President Trump on a new health care bill. Its a steamy hot issue in town halls like this one in idaho. If you believe health care is a human right, do you simply tell people who cant afford to buy health care [ inaudible ] . [ applause ] i do not believe health care is a basic right. [ booing ] and get this, when Congress Gets back to washington in a few days, a new Obamacare Repeal bill could be waiting. Politico reporting a possible vote could come as soon as next week. Two Republican Group leaders have a proposal trying to bring both farright and more moderate sides of the Republican House together. Tonight Minority Leader pelosi saying, trumpcare is a moral monstrosity that will devastate seniors, children and Hard Working Americans and republicans have decided to make it even worse. A reporter for political, editor for the washington examiner, page coming in as a Health Care Reporter for the washington post. Page, first to you. What is in this bill they think can bring the republicans right and left together . Some provisions in this amendment have been discussed before they left for recess. One is providing waveers to states to allow them to opt out of some of these Insurance Regulations and thats something the conservatives in the Freedom Caucus had really demanded. Another part of this which would be concession to moderates perhaps is putting back those essential Health Benefits that are requirements in the Affordable Care act. So, i think this really represents an effort to bring those two parties closer together. Heres what i think a fast one is being pulled. Tell me because i know youre steeped into this. Theyre going to keep preexisting conditions in, right . Thats in, right . That stays in . Correct. Okay. But they can opt out of the prohibition on charging certain people more, which means this. The two of us, they could charge you a dollar and they could charge me, if i had like a Serious Health condition, they could charge me a million dollars. So, that essentially does keep me out if they can do different pricing, that does do away with the preexisting illness part. Well, it should be noted that states would have to apply for a wafer to opt out of that to charge people more for preexisting conditions. Youre right, this is one of the big disputes. Whats the point of requiring insurers to accept these people if they can jack up the price to where theyre unmanageably expensive. The question is what would states do. Some states have a situation where preexisting conditions couldnt charge more, other states they would be depending on the actions of that state governor. I think i think thats pulling a little bit of a fast one. Alex, youre reporting this is going to be put up on the floor next week possibly . Look, clearly thats what the white house wants to happen. But its a little unclear why theyre talking about doing this especially so soon. Look, next week theyve got to deal with Government Funding and a potential government shut down. Thats really what republicans on the hill really want and need to tackle. Heres the bottom line. There are a lot of republicans on capitol hill who want to put the Health Care Fight behind them. They want to get on to other issues like tax reform. But you sort of get the sense that trump here just cant get over this loss with health care reform, and he maybe hes a little bit insecure or sensitive about the idea were almost 100 days in and he doesnt really have a major legislative accomplishment under his belt just yet. Tim, for the life of me i cant understand why they cant multi task. Why cant they deal with both of these, Government Funding, maybe they shouldnt have gone away two weeks, but why cant they do health care and funding . Part of it is they dont have what we call regular order. They dont do the committee process. I have asked Republican Leaders and Rank And File members, why did you do it this way . Paul ryan had a consultative process rather than a collaborative process. If you have questions, ideas, bring them to us. It was still the Republican Leadership doing it. So, you cant have energy and commerce writing the health bill and Ways And Means writing tax reform and appropriations doing the because the committees arent really working in their normal fashion. And the Republican Leadership and the white house are taking it all on themselves. Thats why they cant multi task because the parties have so changed the way Congress Works for whatever reason, it against ts gets centralized. Maybe they ought to change the way Congress Works. Whatever theyre doing isnt working, right . Right. We can all agree on that, right . The system theyre using now is not working. I think a collaborative process could have brought on the mott rads and the conservatives. But ryans process sort of lost them both by the end last time. I think whats notable right now is you see the speakers office really stepping back. Theyre not involved in negotiations right now. Its actually done directly between the leaders of the Freedom Caucus and the tuesday group. The committees are stepping back. Theyre only involved a little bit in technical advising. Its interesting they wrote this legislation and now its up to these other leaders to try to Reach Consensus On A bill that was really floundering. It will be interesting to see what happens. I want to know how theyre going to fix the disparate amount of cost to people and how that doesnt get around the preexisting issue. But well see what they do. Anyway, thank you. Attorney general sessions rips a federal judge in the state of hawaii. Was it an unforced error or was it strategic . And how about this for a coincidence. The judge donald trump quoted over his, quote, Mexican Heritage is now overseeing a new lawsuit involving the president. And this alarming and upsetting video, a 10yearold boy with autism pleading with officers do not like to be touched. The arrest and the question tonight. Was it legal . St everything, so we know how to cover almost anything. Even a coupe soup. 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President trump going after what he called the socalled judge who earlier this year blocked his travel ban, and Attorney General sessions slap at the federal judge comes as President Trump is facing off with federal judge Gonzalo Curiel again. Last summer President Trump went to war with this same judge accusing him of being too biased to hear his Trump University case because of what President Trump said, quote, was the judges Mexican Heritage. By the way, judge curiel was born and raised in indiana. But i have a judge who is a hater of donald trump, a hater. Hes a hater. His name is Gonzalo Curiel. I think judge curiel should be ashamed of himself. I think its a disgrace that hes doing this. And i look forward to going before a jury, not this judge. Reporter why did you refer to his ethnicity, donald . Because his heritage is mexican. Reporter so what . Because i want to build a wall. Now to the new legal battle over when i judge curiel will hear, juan Manuel Montez alleges that the government did not show documentation to explain why sending him back to mexico was legal. Im back with alex eisen stat and tim carney. Alex, ive tried a lot of cases, hung around the courthouse a number of years. We lawyers say horrible awful things about judges when we lose, but were not president of the United States or Attorney General of the United States. Thats a big difference to me. Absolutely. Well, look, those clips that you were showing, trumps comments of judge curiel, that may have represented the lowest point of trumps general election campaign. I mean, you saw a massive shake up in his campaign after that point. This is really the low point. And you sort of saw him back off those comments at a certain point. But its going to be interesting to see if he comments on this looming case because immigration was really the cornerstone of his campaign and youre actually seeing a lot of trump loyalists, a lot of people who supported him during the Campaign Getting i am patience with him for not moving faster on the wall and forms of undocumented immigration. In fairness to the president it hasnt been a hundred days. He made a lot of promises. Its not been 100 days. Tim, your thoughts on this, the Attorney General and the president. I mean, it is an island in the pacific. Hes totally hes true. Its really in the middle, not just off the coast of california. Hawaii is far away. All right. So, hes literally correct. Hes got the facts. Its actually many islands. Many islands. But what youve got is the question i share with alex, is trump going to sound like candidate trump . One of the biggest problems i think in the first hundred days is he hasnt adapted to being president of the United States. Sort of pushing his daughters shoe brand and, you know, saying oh, well, America Today he didnt take t

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