states. but the implications will be felt here in washington as well. president trump endorsed moore even as most republicans deemed him toxic. tonight the president tweeted "congratulations to doug jones on a hard fought victory. the write in votes played a very big factor but a win is a win. the people of alabama are great, and the republicans will have another shot at this seat in a very short period of time. it never ends. that's his word. when jones takes his seat the republican grip on the senate will shrink to a ray store thin 51-49 margin. at least one republican senator is openly celebrating tonight. jeff flake of arizona, a republican, tweeted decency wins. in his victory speech tonight doug jones delivered a message of unity. let's watch. >> i am truly, truly overwhelmed. but you know, folks, and you have all heard me say this at one point or another in this campaign, i have always believed that the people of alabama have more in common than divide us. [ cheers and applause ] we have shown not just around the state of alabama, but we have shown the country the way that we can be unified. at the end of the day, this entire race has been about dignity and respect. [ cheers and applause ] this campaign, this campaign has been about the rule of law. [ cheers and applause ] this campaign has been about common courtesy and decency and making sure everyone in this state, regardless of which zip code you live in, is going to get a fair shake in life. >> well, the reason you saw on that platform that wonderful diverse crowd up there on the vick tremendous stand there that election really was a victory of a combination of american and white vote. for his part, roy moore said he's not conceding the race yet. let's watch him. >> when the vote is this close, it is not over. part of problem with this campaign is we have been painted in an unfavorable and unfaithful light. we've been put in a hole, if you will. >> well, i'm joined by joy reid ronreaco of a.m. joy on msnbc that's the great weekend show that everybody stops everything for. beth clayton is a contributor to the voice of alabama politics. and michael steele is sitting here with me. want to go in that order tonight. talk about first of all to the extent you are surprised, i did pick this to happen. i'll show you that tape in a minute but i worried about it all night until -- i love the contour tonight joy as it shifted and shifted and shifted. it tightened and tightened until in the end doug jones came out with the win. your thoughts? >> as you well know, chris, the votes in urban counties tend to come in late. as it started to close and steve kornacki was doing that stuff on the board where you see the big counties like montgomery county were still out there it started to look better and better for doug jones. i had friends in the political business texting me all night saying it was looking better and better for jones. i wasn't sure whether to believe it or not. i will say briefly, if you look at the exits, alabama is whiter than the country as a whole. it's 66% white. the country is about 61%. for any democratic to win the state they have got to get four in ten white voters and a super surge of black voters because black voters are about 26% in the state. doug jones rolled like a perfect seven. is that the right analogy. he got a super surge of black voters who turned out to be 30% of the electorate when they are only 26% of the population. which means black voters really showed up. >> almost a 50/50 split in his victory coalition of black and white. >> yeah. >> i think that's wonderful. and i love what he said about unity. i have to tell you it's my religion, basically that the democratic party become a combination of the two races. down in the black belt, in that part of the country, the cotton culture it all came from. michael steel, my friend, is a republican but certainly no roy moore republican. >> no. >> if that is even the right phrase to use. >> no, no. and that is not something that i think that you would find really existing within the party. >> they were at 49% down there, 48% for him. >> but i think again that the fact of the matter is that i am talking about the republican party. >> that's by the way the most desolate victory platform i have ever seen in my life. looks like guys waiting for a bus that hasn't shown up. >> okay. a number of things happened here tonight that i think are important. and a lot of it has to do with how the party now begins to reorient itself tomorrow morning. whether it's out of the white house, and what the president tweets. the tweet tonight i don't think was really the president's tweet. >> it seemed sort of civilized. >> yeah, it's not really what he felt about this election, what happened. what i'm hearing inside the white house is he ain't too happy. >> who is he blaming? >> mitch mcconnell. that's going to come. the establishment folks on the hill. that pivots how do they then respond? i think you have already seen the first salvo to mcconnell said to the senator-elect we are looking forward to welcoming you to the senate to work with us and the republican caucus. one, we know we are down 59-41. he knows jones's backyard. if jones has any desire to hold that seat in 2020. >> he is going to give. >> he has to give. wiggle room. >> beth, i want to know what you know because you know probably more than me. what surprised you? because the polls were back and forth. we had one ten points for jones the other day but that was in person, i think robocalls were getting better. the other one going nine points the other way for jones. i'm sorry, back for moore. and then we had four out of the last five before that who were all for moore. what did we learn, the inability of polls the poll or what? what do we get out of here? >> i don't trust the polls ever since we saw what happened in 2016 when they were telling us that hillary had it in the bag. what i do trust are the alabama values. the people of alabama showed tonight we will not tolerate this sort of non-sense representing our voices in the united states senate. and we showed up and spoke up and made sure that america knows that we mean business when it comes to the trump agenda. the we can fight him right here in his home field advantage we will white him in every single state where he thinks he can win. >> how much has the atmosphere of harvey weinstein and everything else that's come -- the major network people, matt and everybody else and charlie rose and the charges against the republican candidate down there which has been so vocal and credible, how much of that national envelope that this thing came in affect the voting in alabama? >> i think it made a huge difference because this kind of thing resonates with women. when you look at women across alabama, or in any corner of the united states, we've always been in a situation where a man didn't treat us right and we know that feeling. and we know how it feels to not be believed. and we showed up and we said, we are not going to tolerate it. and it helps it looking across the country women were beginning to be believed in all corners of america. and they felt confident coming out here in alabama where we frankly don't have a lot of room to wiggle here. we women came out and we said, no more. and frankly no moore. we deserve better than this. >> it was a giant chorus. we are joined by senator klobuchar of minnesota. thank you for joining us. you are one of the leaders of our party. i'm on dering what does this mean to you tonight? >> chris, the sun is going to be shining tomorrow morning. the people of alabama have spoken. they rejected the divisiveness. you have in doug jones a candidate who is a moderate but he brought people together. hits background as a prosecutor and taking on that case of the four little girls killed in that church decades before. >> yeah. >> he's a man of redemption. and today he brought redemption and will bring redemption to washington. >> what does it feel like as a progressive to look at a guy getting in who probably couldn't get reelected down there if he voted progressive. will he get wiggle room to vote moderate on issues affecting his state. >> we have got a party runs the gamut of bernie sanders and joe gam you. i don't see that as much of an issue as what's in front of us right now. we have got the tax bill. i would hope that they are having trouble with that tack bill now. they should hold it off here. you have got a vast majority of americans against this tax bill. you have got a conservative state like alabama just like virginia just did saying we don't like this kind of politics, we don't like the cutting of medicaid and medicare and some of what we are hearing from the republican party. let's go back to the drawing board again. >> senator hold on there. i want to bring in tom perez the chairman of the democratic national committee. thank you for coming on. does this hearten your chances to take the senate next year? you are now within a vote or two of winning this thing. takes you 51 to control the thing. do you think you have got a shot now in 2018 to win the senate. >> absolutely chris. you look at nevada, you look at arizona, you look at tennessee. you look at other opportunities out there. and what i've learned from the last 12 months is democrats can win virtually anywhere. if we lead with our values, if we have candidates like doug jones and what we saw tonight was -- this wasn't about right versus left, this was about right versus wrong. this was about voters in alabama who put country over party. and there are opportunities everywhere. tennessee is going to be competitive. and so i'm very bullish moving forward because tonight was a victory for decency. a year ago trump won by 28 points. in one year you see a 30 point swing because they are just so overreaching. and senator klobuchar mentioned the tax bill. they ought to slow that down and actually listen to their constituents. they continue to overreach at their political pair i will. >> your candidate down here won and i'm actually happy about it of course. but doug jones was pretty far out there in the beginning on abortion rights saying it was okay with him to be pro choice to the end of term. then he pulled that back. is there going to be enough plexability in the democratic party to awill you people to take a row v wade position of course but to not be all the way with this abortion to the end approach which he took in the beginning which pretty much jeopardized i believe his candidacy. >> i have known doug 20 years. we worked in the clinton justice department together. what i love about doug is he is an independent voice. and he always will be. and i'm confident there are going to be times when doug does and says things that other democrats agree with. and i'm confident there are going to be times that he says things that we may not agree with. and i know that his north star is always going to be what works best for alabamans. that's why he was elected. he talked about the issues that keep people up at night. he talked about good jobs, about his father, the steel worker and how he wants to make sure that people have a better life in the future. he talked about education. he talked about children's health insurance. >> right. >> he talked about preserving access to health care. that's what doug is about. hashtag kitchen table. that's what he talked about. >> sounds like a win to me. >> roy moore was fighting culture wars and doug is going to fight for ordinary alabamans. >> you are singing my song, mr. chairman. thank you so much. you are singing my song. let me go back to -- thank you for joining us for joining us by, chairman of the democratic national committee, tom perez. senator klobuchar are you still on? >> i sure am. >> we lost senator al franken, we will be thinking for years and what it was all about. unfairness and fairness in certain ways and other ways. why is it important for the democrats to have 51 democratic senators rather than 49. what are the stakes? >> it's pretty offers when you look at, one, the court and some of the judges that this president has been put on. you lack at, two, the economic plans, repeatedly they have been trying to repeal the affordable care act instead of doing fixes that we need for america. and then this tax bill which is really a big transfer of wealth and a huge debt that would be act lated on the backs of the middle class. we want to do reasonable things. 18 # uls stood up and said we want to work with you on tax reform we will bring down business taxes. they are not coming to the table. but they are running from the i believe at that. and i think these victories in virginia and new jersey show that americans, the huge turnout with the african-american voters and the huge turnout with young people are saying we want to take this country in another way, decency and respect. >> do you think we would be better off after this president simply resigned over all this concern about his comments in the past and mike pence took over? do you think we would be better off. >> i did not want to see this president put in place. i favor the investigations we are talking about, especially the investigation on russia. that's the only way we will be able to see a change if the facts come out and there is in fact a reason through congress for some kind of proceeding. right now that's what we have to let happen. at the same time we cannot let go. and this was the message we heard from alabama and virginia, an economic message from people to focus on broader issues and to stand up for them every step of the day. >> senator klobuchar on the phone. in a conversation with gene robinson on hard ball i made this prediction about tonight's race name' beginning to think it is a slight victory for doug jones. i know you robinson, you will hold me to that. i will hold myself to that. in other words, i nailed it. i like to be right. let's go on. do you think 19 -- i'm getting old. 2017 and 2016 are different? 2016 was a big shock to our system on a lot of things social as well as economic issues that led a lot of people to vote for trump. they were ticked off at both parties. do you think the wheels are turning. is '18 going to be more like '17? is that enough? that snuff, these three victories, new jersey, virginia, and certainly the most important one, the most shocking in the other direction, the progressive direction or moderate direction in alabama. does this mean the party, the democrats are in good shape to hold in indiana, in west virginia, to hold on in missouri, win in nevada, places where you could actually see a significant democratic majority coming out of next year's election? i can see it? >> yeah. >> go did. >> i think the historic trend are in the deltsd' direction in part when a party has the white house a lot of their voters become complacent and satisfied. you daw saw that with obama voters who got a big win in 2008 and largely stayed home and walked away in 2010 thinking well my job is done because obama attracted a lot of marginally attached voters who came out specifically for him. trump did the same thing, brought out a lot of marginally attached white voters who got what they wanted in 2016 and weren't going to be as motivated if he himself on the ballot. it is upside down but the same idea. with roy moore, there was a lot of plain disgust with roy moore that softened the enthusiasm on the republican side. you didn't see the yard signs, the excitement you saw even with donald trump. you combine that with a democratic electorate. the resistance is real, particularly among women and people of color. they want this changed back. this trump era is agonizing and excruciating for democrats, for progressives people of color. they are energized. i think what you will see in 2018 is the same thing, a lot of satisfied republicans who are happy with trump. he won't be on the. . he can compel them to vote. he has to transfer that to republicans. who is he fighting with? republicans. there is no way donald trump can help his party. >> i think democrats are in good shape, good candidates and a motivated base. >> michael, people like to think one good punch to the gut of the establishment. is that satisfying enough for them to say i will go back to my regular voting pattern? >> it's typically what we've seen in the past. i would be cautious and put the brakes on a little bit of what joy is talking about. simply because democrats have 25 seats up, a being number in red states. they have to defend in republican territory, which may not necessarily go like it did tonight in alabama. but the seeds are there. i think this is a big lesson for republicans to take away from tonight that it does matter who you lie down with. because when you get up with fleas, baby, all you are going to do is scratch. you are not going to win much. you are not going to win much, you are just going to itch. >> did your grand pop finnegan tell you that one. that's joe biden's grand pop finnegan. more time next time. thank you very much for coming up. coming up, the stunning victory tonight by doug jones is giving democrats visions of big thing to come. we have been talking about that already. if they can win in alabama, where can't they win. we are coming back with more more on a big night of american politics. what a celebration this is going to be. doug jones, this guy clawed his way to the top. he took on the klan and took on roy moore. won both times of good for america. this is a special edition of hard ball, where the action is. welcome back to this special edition, i would say celebratory edition of hard ball. a democrat hasn't won in alabama since 27 years ago. we are joined by steve kornacki. steve, i love the fact that i am learn being the geography of alabama. in most states there is always a montgomery county for some reason. every time we go somewhere there is a montgomery county and it tends to be decisive. you take over. >> montgomery -- we'll start with montgomery county and let's start with the koups around mont month county. who keys for jones pulling off this victory. one is this sort of batch of counties here, the blue ones. that's montgomery right there. the biggest of the bunch. a lot of these are rural. these are also heavily black counties. the key is there were not just votes for jones. the key is turnout. if you look at where the turnout was in the state in the 2016 presidential election, the drop-off in these counties was a lot less, the drop-off was a lotlet less than you saw in the rural areas, the heavily white rural areas. black turnout was very strong. something else in this result it gave jones the win. i think it ought to worry republicans nationally, too. it is a continuation a bit of a trend we've been seeing in this trump era of the republican struggles in traditionally republican suburbs. let me start here in shelby county right outside birmingham. shelby kahne county is traditionally a republican bastion. also of all the counties in bm bam it has the highest concentration of four-year college graduates. this is a place where mitt romney got almost 80% of the vote in 2012. where donald trump got 73% of the vote in 2016. do moore, he wins it, but only with 56%. these are the white college educated suburbanites that the jones campaign thought they could make inroads with. madison county. every state has a madison county it feels like. hundredsville, aerospace, number two in all of the counties in alabama in terms of the percentage of places with four-year college degrees. a place mitt romney took 60%. donald trump took 55%. today, roy moore only able to get 40%. it's the real discomfort with roy moore that we saw in these suburbs. again, these are terrible numbers for a republican to be racking up in these places. we think of the virginia gubernatorial race and the suburbs outside of dc. those are the same characteristics of the voters we are talking about. that could have implications in 2016. >> did you accepts watching this dynamically in the last week or two that this was going gradually to jones? >> yeah, look, we didn't see mass defections from republican leaders, we saw the president of the united states decide to get involved. but we did see shelby. i thought he was a good bellwether, his refusal to make that endorsement. that's what i was thinking of when i saw the turnout figures in this part of the state. when i saw the turnout figures that speaks to a republican base. it's necessarily they were going to vote for jones it was more maybe they weren't going to vote. >> that reminds me steve of what john warner did in virginia a couple of cycles ago. he said i would not vote for alley north and it put the stimpg on the guy. here's a look at how you reported the drama of tonight. let's watch you in action. >> it's skeletal, sketchy, early, 25,000 votes, jones out to the early lead. it all depends where it's coming in. about a quarter of the vote in with can counted total right now moore is leading. big caution, jefferson county, the biggest cohn, where birmingham is, they only started to come in. basically let's forget that 55-44. you are teague a turnout advantage in the heavily black areas of thesy state. that's key for jones. down to 30,000. the basic ingredients are there. this is a narrow race. the question is, is it going to be just enough or just short for democrats. if they are ever going the win one lawrence probably going to be in the next hour or two. half the vote to come in from mobile. again, he is within 3,000 statewide. look up here in madison. still 15% to come in. he has a 17 point lead. he is going to get more votes out of here, more votes out of here, more margin over here and he's within 3,000 statewide. >> kornacki outdoes me with speed and enthusiasm. it's great to watch the progression. thank you steven kornacki or the reporting greatness. ? who doesn't will an election night. >> coming john braidman and korrean. i will give you a chance to yuck it up. go ahead korrean. >> this is a great night for democrats. as you have been talking about virginia, democrats have deny well the last two elections, virginia and now alabama, which is a great boost for democrats going into 2018. as steve was saying, the reason why democrats won tonight in alabama is because of turnout. and the only way you have turnout is you have to have a large, strong operation, grassroots operation on the ground and you have to have a great candidate. and doug jones -- >> are you going to let doug jens be a moderate? yes or no? are you guys going to push him to the left. i think he should reject donald trump's policies which are horrible. >> i'm asking are you on the left going to let him be a moderate? >> we are going to push him to be a progressive. >> in alabama? >> i think. >> ung do you think a true progressive with win re-election in alabama? >> if you stand on the right side of history. >> he wanted the 100% ada voting railroad. >> i think he should vote against the republicans. >> vote consistently with the democrats. >> of course, why not. >> the republicans love hearing this. >> if he could do that all the way until 2020. >> this is not -- this is not normal times. of what republicans are trying to do. >> first i'm going to congratulate doug jones. he deserves to be congratulated but let's be honest, this race was a referendum on roy moore. >> misbehavior. >> yeah. he was under multiple allegation was sexual conduct including with a teenager. i guess my bigger question would be what would you have said about the democrats if they hadn't won. second thing, it is an incredibly parochial state, shellpy outtrumps no pun intended the president and bannon on what he said he was going to do. the lot of republicans did stay home and the percent of republicans vote that the republican got was much less than the democrat votes that the democrat got of it has nothing to do with doug jones it. has everything to do with people said -- mitch mcconnell or anyone else, they basically said we would raert go with not supporting somebody who we can't support his character once he is here than -- >> they felt that he would have been the gift, roy moore would have the gift for you that gives all year round. >> can i push back. because during the primary, the republican primary there were two general election polls that came out that had doug jones being very close in beating both luther strange and also roy moore. it was competitive. it was competitive before the pedphilia. before the pedphilia. >> do you think jones would have won if these allegations hadn't come out? >> i'm saying he was a great candidate because he was competitive before the allegations. >> if the allegations didn't come out --? >> i'm saying it was not true. that he made the election competitive each before the pedophile thing, the stuff came out. allegations came out. >> that's like saying trump couldn't within without hillary clinton. >> the me too movement played a strong role in this. they were winners in all of this as well. >> do you think doug jones is going to survive as a senator more than this half term? >> not if he acts like a d. he can keep the d registration but he has to prove to alabamans that he is going the act according to their values. joe is different. joe was governor. people got to know him personally. >> i agree with that. >> he still has a tough re-election. >> i know he does. >> he has been voting with democrats. he has been voting with democrats this whole entire year. >> thank you. i agree with you but that's fair enough. or you disagree with he moo. that's fine. thank you john and corrine. up next, after tonight's victory in alabama, what does this mean for the democratic party going fard forward? how good are things looking for 2018? i think they are looking good with the democrats are smart. you are watching a special edition of hard ball. big night for the democrats. welcome back to this special edition hard ball. senator majority leader mitch mcconnell will not have to deal with the problem of roy moore joining republicans. there will be no jonah up on the ship anymore. he has to contend with the new math. the new democrat shrinks the republicans slim majority down to a single seat, effectively 51 republicans and 9 49 democrats. chuck schumer welcome d him saying he was a great candidate and will be a even better senator. roy moore was an awful candidate and never should have gotten to the senate. make in mistake about it. democrats are energized focused on the middle class and those struggling to get there and things are looking better and better for 2018. what's next, i'm bring in the experts larry is a batto at uva, director the center of politics at university of virginia. larry, virginia was a powerful message a couple weeks back, but this one, alabama has become part of the new solid south republican, and it's not solid, not when it comes to roy moore. >> look, this is much bigger than virginia. and i love virginia. and i think it was a very strong signal. but to have a ruby red state like alabama with doug -- with president trump carrying it by 28% an points and then managing to lose a senate seat, even by a small margin, it really suggests what could be coming in 2018, each with roy moore being a horrible candidate. don't forget, donald trump struck out twice in alabama. once in primary, and then in the special general election. so it is suggests to me and i think to a lot of people that he is not going to have a lot of pull in 2018. and what pull he has, especially in competitive states is going to be negative for the republicans. >> thank you for saying that. first of all, women, prochoice single women in northern virginia. we know that story. i have grown up with it the last 50 years here around washington. they vote democrat because they are prochoice. i want to talk to you about the african-american vote which is apparently half of the winner's vote tonight was african-american. is it the sense i get anecdotally with people who are african-american not just in the business of commentary, i sense a real sense this guy is demoting us as sentence. he is denigrating us, he's treating us as lower -- maybe not lower than human but down there on the pecking order of who matters. he seems to send that message in very personal way to people. and you get it in their faces, the looks they have when they talk about him. it's profound. and i wonder if that could just stir something that we haven't seep in a while, larger than white if you will turnout among african-americans they are going care more about these elections coming u. it happened in philly because i know when i'm talking about. because we had frank rizzo as mayor. the african-americans outvoted the white people because they couldn't stand that mayor bass he seemed anti-black. >> sure. i wonder why they feel that way? could it be donald trump's long history, even before he became president. >> i know, i know, i know. it's not funny, but thank you. >> i'm being kind. honestly, i think that's absolutely right. people get a sense of a president. and i don't think donald trump has a clue how most people look at him. and it's now a large majority who look askance at him and are very critical. and every single day he stirs the pot three or four times and makes another million enemies. >> he did it with kirsten gillibrand, has been tough on this issue looking out for women in the workplace and in the military. you could disagree with perhaps her officer owesity but it is a an initiative that applies to most people, he come out and basically calls her a slut today. the image he created, it's disgusting. >> why the heck would he want to pick that fight? why go there. >> every professional woman says wait a minute is that what he thinks we do when we ask for a raise? is that what he thinks is going on. >> it's inexplicable. >> that's a perfect example. >> of another group he has said, i don't respect you. let me ask you about the pure partisanship this night. is it a hare binger of 2012, of 2018. >> see, i don't think it is. i think there is a lot of evidence that we are going to see a way -- we are seeing the potential for a huge democratic wave next year. i think it looks really really -- >> can they take the house and the senate. >> yes. the house absolutely. and after this the senate is really in play. having said that i think tonight was really about roy moore. if this had been luther strange as the republican nominee or joe or jane generic republican, this show wouldn't be on tonight. i mean, there wasn't be a story. this thing wouldn't have been close. this was about roy moore. >> was it about harvey weinstein and all the environment that's been created since that development? >> sure. sure. but the thing is there were problems that republicans had. it's president trump's 36, 37% job approval rating. it's having a 48, 49, 50 strong disapprove rating. >> yeah. >> it's having the republican party identification dropping five points since the -- in a year. >> yeah. >> you know, it's state legislative seats shifting this year. there is an enormous amount of evidence that next year is going to be really ugly, but tonight was about roy moore. >> how about african-american vote? last question to larry. i want to push that i am very enthusiastic about african-american voting. it's been depressed. they have been played with. they have been suppressed and all the tricks of voter id and everything they do to screw them out of the voting system, literacy tests and poll taxes finally they got out tonight and spoke loud and clear and beat that guy. do you think this is going to rouse them to vote because it? larry. >> i think it's absolutely going to happen in 2018. i agree with charlie on the wave that's coming. don't forget about the governors and state legislatures. i think you are going to so a tremendous turnover to the democrats there, too, which is going to be critical for the next redistricting coming in 2021. so donald trump has got the white house and i suppose a lot of republicans are still happy about that. but he's going to cost them tremendously next year in the midterm elections and probably beyond that. >> you know what i think the people that like trump don't like him as much as the people that don't like him don't like him. i think we saw that tonight. thank you larry and charlie. >> i finished a week and a half ago the bobby kennedy, boochlt it's really good. >> charlie is an expert on politics. he wrote the most beautiful review on my book. >> the best book you have done yet. >> up next, it's christmastime, by the way, time to go out and get that book. i don't mind saying it. i don't get many comments like that. president trump and steve bannon, will they continue to hold sway in the republican party now that they have broken their picks. you are watching hard ball, a special edition of hard ball. firstthen you put yourselfareer. through school. got the degree. you've given it your all, to reach the goals you've set. don't let student debt hold you back. refinancing student loans with sofi can save thousands. so you can get where you've always been headed... sooner. see how much you can save with sofi. the leader in student loan refinancing. this is greater than judge moore, right? it's even greater than the people of alabama. i know one thing. nobody can come down here and tell folks in alabama what to do. there's a special place in hell for republicans who should know better. you know what they are doing. you know what they are doing. they are trying to shut up president trump and judge moore. they are trying to shut you up. >> that's an outside agitator. that's what he looks like these days. welcome back to "hardball." that was steve bannon going into alabama and telling them how to vote. urging republicans to vote for roy moore in this case. tonight's loss is a rebuke to steve bannon and also to president trump. here's the headline to new york daily news, screw you and the horse you rode in on of course because the republican candidate who lost last night was of course the guy that rode in on a horse, roy moore. it was kind of ridiculous doing it. the headline also says teen-loving moore loses pam bam race in big blow to trump. let's bring in annie landski. sofia nelson, and jim al simmons a democratic strategist. in this order. let me talk about this, what does it do to bannon, the friskies going out there looking for most hard right candidate and run them claiming unlike the case of christine o'dom and achen and murdoch and the one out in nevada, they are actually going to win. now they are going to give us winners. they gave up probably the only candidate who could have loss a republican loss in alabama, which is like hard hot red. >> very hard to do. i moon it is a complete -- you can't overstate what a rebuke this is to steve bannon, who went down there four times to campaign. i mean he put his stamp on this campaign like nobody else from the outside. i moon, even donald trump wouldn't go into the state. but steve bannon went there four times. and law it's going to make his life even more difficult here in washington. >> it wasn't exactly an away game, sofia. if you can't win in a republican state where can you win? >> it says something different to me, the democrats are shifting that even in the red south, i live in virginia which used to be all red, now it's purple. it is note blue. >> before you were born it was all red. come on now, when was it all red, virginia, when. >> what do you mean, 1964 was the last time a democrat carried it until obama. come on, it's been red. i am talking about just even in the state. >> am i missing something. >> no, you are not. >> i have known senators for years down there. >> in alabama what happened i thought roy moore would win by a little bit. i think most people did. what happened was white women and african-americans said no dice. they made the difference in this. the demographics count. me too is bigger than anybody thinks, women's stories matter. >> what has changed. the black belt in cotton south, if you look at the map back this days of the civil war there was 40%, big percentage of african-americans in the states. >> more percentage of womens, more african-americans, more educated, more centrists. >> kind of demographics. >> yes. >> here's what i think about steve bannon, we are starting to be pretty sure he can't win a general action but he still mighting able to swepg a big ax in a primary. the question for republicans is can they get past steve bannon enough in a primary in order doshs. >> donnelly and a rape candidate. if he gets another murdoch, he gets back in again. >> that's right. >> if he is against a reasonable republican, he is going to have a tough time of it. >> that's going the happen all over the country. they can get really jammed up playing with steve bannon, they may not have a choice. >> the news of doug joan's victory tonight won't be the only headline greeting donald trump until the morning, an editorial goes of a the president for his sexually suggestive tweet directed towards kirsten gillibrand. the editorial reads a president who all but calls a senator a whor ere -- >> it's not a leftie paper. i read that and it reads sort of like a leftie screed you might hear at a thanksgiving dinner. instead, this is u.s.a. today. their circulation is the middle of the country. >> what moves them i think it's gender. >> this movement of women sharing their stories changed the alabama race. without it roy moore would be the senator-elect right now. if they hadn't uncovered the "washington post" stuff, game over. >> answer me this question about a stooupt stupid decision, why did donald trump imply that kirsten gillibrand came into his office alone and offed her body basically in exchange for money from him. >> i think donald trump has no control when it comes to these thing. he blurts out what comes to his mind. my wife said wait until tomorrow morning. let's into the tweet in the morning. that's when trump puts the stuff out that he really thinks. >> yep. >> i feel like trump just wants to be the center of attention. and for a moment the attention to be on alabama and in the on him. >> he likes us talking about him right now. >> yeah. >> he also knows it will get us riled up, which it has, and he likes it. he feeds on it. he doesn't like women. can i say that. he doesn't like women. he has mommy issues, clearly. he doesn't like women. look how he treats women. allegations, 17 women coming out, one alleging horrific as minor that he might have raped somebody. wait a minute, who. >> remember the young woman that filed a suit in the federal courts and lisa bloom was going to represent her and she wouldn't come out because he won the election. they called her jane doe. >> it's horrific, criminal, almost a capital crime. >> yeah. >> how about this, making fun of the physical appearance of fiorina, one of his opponents, he wouldn't do that to a guy. >> he said little hands with marco rubio. >> or the disabled reporter. >> he just does that. he is just mean. >> i think there is sort of a meanness. i have to say i do disagree a bit about women because if you look at his administration and his inner circumstancele he does have quite a few women that he listens to, hope hicks or kellyanne conway. >> women who stands up to him are the ones he has a problem with. >> who is that? oh, the democrats. >> elizabeth warren, kirsten gillibrand. >> who would be the first woman the run against him face to face. >> sally yates. >> is it elizabeth warrening when he is looming offer here, like a gorilla behind her. who would turn around and say what the hell are you doing over here? i am a waiting for that candidate. that he is the one that i want. thank you. we'll be right back with more on this special bigtime upset in alabama. democrat doug jones is the apparent winner in alabama tonight. there he is. he looks like the real winner not just the apparent winner. anyway, on facebook's real. we'll be right back.

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