Transcripts For MSNBCW The Place For Politics 2016 20160929

Transcripts For MSNBCW The Place For Politics 2016 20160929

Ground running and let you know what happens. Over the past few hours, weve heard from several of the passengers talking about the horror that they witnessed. I was in the first car, about ten seats back. If you can just describe what happened. It was just we were driving, riding along. I was talking with the person that i rode in with. Suddenly, everything just stopped really harshly. Got dark. I noticed things falling from the ceiling. There was just a haze of smoke and then everything was dusty and dirty. People started i think a few started crying. A few started screaming, but not screams of it didnt feel like they were screams of hurt. It was more screams of shock. Im fine i had nothing youre seeing the extent of it here. Im incredibly lucky. New jerseys governor, Chris Christie, will update us next hour. He did speak a few moments ago with msnbcs Brian Williams. Right now we have one confirmed fatality. One confirmed fatality, a female, yet unidentified as a fatality. Other than that, we have some folks in Critical Condition and serious condition, but the only confirmed fatality is that one woman. Your folks are telling you theres no reason to suspect anything intentional, untward here. Are you zeroing in on perhaps a medical event that befell the train operator . Theres no evidence that it was anything other than an axe deputy. In my previous job as u. S. Attorney, i used to say to my folks all the time, dont jump to conclusions. Let the facts draw you to the conclusions. Right now we are awaiting a News Conference from the new Jersey Transit. That is set to begin any moment now. When that happens, of course, well bring it to you live. First, though, rehema ellis at hoboken medical center. Whats the scene there . Reporter im about a half a mile from the train station, the crash site, craig. What officials are saying is that they have 22 patients. Theyre listed in stable condition. We talked with one young man who was on that train. He was able to walk off the train. He said he thinks it was adrenaline that made him do that because now he says he has a serious back injury. His back is paining him. He described sitting in one of those seats, they call it a flipup seat. It collapses so there can be more room at certain times for passengers to stand he says when this crash happened, he went flying out of his seat, as did everyone else who was sitting in one of those flip seats. He hit the ceiling and thats how he injured his back. There were others who told us at the time they were there, they were on the platform and watching all of this. And the train just didnt stop coming. It slammed into the waiting area where passengers are preparing to board the train. One man said he heard it and then he saw it. He said it was a big, loud boom. His first thing was he was frightened with all of the reports of bombs goes off, just not so long ago in chelsea, but he said his fear was that it was a bomb. Then afterward he said it got very silent. It was eerily silent. Then he heard people screaming and crying. He saw people who were bloody, they had cuts. Some were actually crawling on their hands and knees to get away from the crash site. Luckily, 22 people who made it here, all of them, were told, were brought here on stretchers. 22 of them are in stable condition. They are being treated. Some have been treated and have been released from the hospital. Craig . Rehema ellis for us there. Do stand by, if you can. I want to bring in tom costello right now. Tom, of course, covers transportation for nbc news, msnbc. Toms on the way to the scene. Tom, at this point, again, preliminary reports suggesting this was some sort of accident. That this was something, perhaps, caused by operator error. You made a point earlier that, i think, perhaps bears repeating. Scenes like this, train accidents in this country seem to be more commonplace than they were a few years ago. Is that the case . I he dont know if theyre more commonplace but i think its worth noting weve had some highprofile cases over the last ten years or so resulting in quite a few deaths. In every case, the lack of positive train control ended up being a contributing factor. According to the ntsb, in fact, would have prevented the accident had it been in place. We know on this particular line of track going into hoboken station, thats a concern sources close to the investigation tell me that, in fact, they have recovered surveillance camera video from inside the train station. As you would expect post9 11, there is plenty. There are plenty of cameras all over train stations these days, especially in the hoboken area. By the way, im on a train myself. Thats what you hear behind me. They recovered the train station Surveillance Video camera. The train itself had an outwardfacing camera, out of the cab. No inwardfacing camera. So, theyre going to be looking at that Video Surveillance coming from the outwardfacing camera from the train. Not clear whether they have that or not. Its also worth repeating here, theyre going to be looking at a whole host of things. Yes, theyll look at the track, the signals, the human performance, as you heard from the ntsb, was there a medical issue, was there a distraction, was the engineer on some sort of phone device, which would be illegal, of course. Then theyll be looking at speed, braking, lack of braking, all of that. And just to repeat, if you hadnt been tuned in earlier, this particular train, the locomotive is in the rear, the engineer is in the front. Theyll be doing surveillance and investigation from top to bottom. Tom, youre cutting out just a little bit. So, if we lose you, ill just move on here. Really quickly, what are your sources telling you about this train engineer, about the man or woman driving this train . All we know is this engineer survived. I dont know if its a man or woman. Clearly, the ntsb as well as other authorities, railroad authorities, et cetera, will be closely talking to him and theyll ask him a whole series of questions which are not unique to this crash, we should stress. This is in every crash. Theyll ask, have you been drinking at all . Do you have a drinking problem . Do you have a drug problem . Do you have any marital problems . Any problems at home . How much sleep did you get last night . Are you on any cough medication . I mean, all of this is part of the narrative and part of the investigation so they can come up with a basic understanding of all the Human Factors involved. Tom costello by the way, one more thing, craig. Theyre going to be sometimes those of us who are a bit older forget, social media. They have to check the cell phone, any indication whether the engineer may have been using his cell phone or his device he may have had, was it used. Again, its illegal, prohibited. Weve seen terrible crashes where people were distracted on their cell phones. Theyll be asking although questions as well. You can imagine they are try to subpoena or ask for the official records from whoever is his cell phone provider. Our man on transportation, tom costello breaking some news there. Sources telling him that Surveillance Video from inside that hoboken station has been recovered. Tom, thank you. Tom on a train, as perhaps you heard in the background, on a train, headed to the scene. U. S. Senator bob menendez from new jersey also on a train headed to new jersey, headed back home. Senator, thank you for your time. Folks on the ground there, a number of officials there, obviously. What are they telling you about the investigation moving forward . Well, ive spoken to the federal railroad add minimum strar, sarah, who is on her way to the scene. Many of her inspectors are already at the scene and as you reported, the ntsb is flying out and will be there this afternoon. What shes told me is they had 250 passengers on the pass deck valley line. They had one unfortunate confirmed death. As i understand it, wasnt a passenger on the train, but a rider waiting on the platform they have nearly 100 injuries, some critical. Theres very significant structural damage done at the hoboken terminal, including a support column. And that track fifve, where thi accident took place, is right over the p. A. T. H. Tunnel. A real concern for the integrity of the floor and ceiling over that p. A. T. H. Tunnel that had so many thousands of riders going back and forth between new york and new jersey. So, probably, you know, looking at in addition to the fatality and the injuries, a significant transit disruption for at least the next foreseeable days. Senator, weve heard a number of folks, ntsb official there at the end of last hour, tom costello last hour, talking about ptc, positive train control, this technology we know, we know this is the kind of technology that would prevent an accident like this from happening. Why is it not standard . Why isnt every train certainly every train that goes that travels around some of the busiest areas of this country, why arent these tracks at least outfitted with this positive track control technology . Well, as on the senate train committee, im in favor of the positive train control and getting it out earlier. My understanding is in this particular case, new Jersey Transit has made zero progress on installation of positive train control. The most recent status report, new Jersey Transit gave to the federal railroad administration, which covered the first half of this year, says that they have zero locomotives equipped with positive train control, zero track segments equipped, zero radio towers installed. So, thats a real problem. You know, they have a deadline that theyre going to have to meet under the law, but i would have thought they would have been further along in the installation of that whole process. That is certainly going to be a question that comes up, im sure, over the next few days andn and around your state. Senator menendez, safe travels to you, sir. Keep us up to date, please, sir. Thank you. Lets bring in msnbc medical contributor dr. John torres, whos at Jersey City Medical Center. Dr. Torres, first of all, the scene there, can you set it for us . Patients coming in, sodium are walking in, the walking wounded. You can see ambulances driving in a patient thats a little more serious. We had a press conference with the ceo and chief medical officer. Theyre telling us the majority of these patients are walking wounded. They said about 40 of them. They triaged them in the cafeteria, which is standard for this type of situation. You want a large area, can you get a lot of providers in there to triage them. Some already coming out we have talked to. They talked to us about their injuries and what actually happened on the train and what they saw on the train. Then they have more serious ones. They say eight are serious, three a little more serious. One theyre calling critical. The other two theyre saying serious. They dont know exactly where theyre going to go with those. One is in the operating room. One is going into the intensive care unit and the other one was still being treated. Right now still a dynamic situation. Luckily weve gotten through the golden hour. Unfortunately, there was only one fatality but everyone else was taken care of. The majority of the patients here at Jersey City Medical Center and they were brought here in a timely. Fashion and taken care of very well. Dr. John torres with us in jersey. A look above the scene and you can see dozens if not hundreds of emergency medical personnel, medical responders assembled outside the station in hoboken. A number of folks transported to area hospitals. At this point we can tell you at least one person has died, roughly 100 others injured, some critically. Some the socalled walking wounded as well. This transit train, 1614, crashed just before 9 00. That News Conference that we mentioned a few moments ago, that new Jersey Transit News Conference that was set to happen any moment, were told that the News Conference is being pushed back now. That News Conference is going to happen at 2 00 eastern. It will happen in conjunction with the News Conference with new jersey governor Chris Christie, whos expected to give us an update at the top of the hour. When we come back here, though, on msnbc, Hallie Jackson is in michigan. She is in one of those battleground states that candidates are expected to speak, expected to talk about what weve all been talking about for the past few hours. Well go to her in michigan on the other side of this break. A live look there in iowa where Hillary Clinton is expected to take the podium shortly. Is that . Nope, its lemonade. Is that icet . Lemonade. Icet . Whats with these people, man . Lemonade, read the sign. Lemonade. Read it. Ok. Delicious. Icet at a Lemonade Stand . Surprising. Whats not surprising . How much money marin saved by switching to geico. Yo, icet its lemonade, man fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more. For over 100 yearsaking like kraft has,al cheese you learn a lot about peoples tastes. Honey, what do you want for dinner tonight . Oh whatever youre making. Triple cheddar stuffed sliders. Sold youre at the top of your game. At work or at play, youre unstoppable. 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Suburban detroit, where i am, packed with potential republican votes and he will need every one of them to try and win the white house this fall. Clinton has led every poll here by at least four or five points. I want to get to our Political Team out in the field. Nbc reporters in two more battleground states trumps trying to win. We have katy tur, who is in bedford where trump is scheduled to speak at 3 00. Kristen welker is also in des moines. Katy, lets talk about trumps strategy. Do we expect him to address the train crash in hoboken . Reporter we havent had any indication he will address the train crash in hoboken. If you take past occurrences like these as precedent, he often will tweet something about it and Say Something at the beginning of his remarks. Weve got no indication from his campaign hell say one thing or another either way. One of the new pieces of reporting i know you have is a list of talking points sent around to surrogates about how to address what has become trumps latest controversy, about Miss Universe. And sure garogates have been instructed to go after bill clintons indiscretions. What can you tell us . Reporter whats interesting, when i talk to the campaign, they say donald trump will not himself be going after Hillary Clinton on the subject of bill clintons affairs. They say hes taking the high read on this. They say theyll be focusing on job creation and thats whats going to appeal to suburban women. It looks like theyre leaving the dirty work, if you will, to their surrogates. Weve gotten ahold of a campaign memo, talking points memo, that lays out how they to want go after Hillary Clinton if the subject of machado is raise in interviews. Theyre to say Hillary Clinton is no champion of women, shes not a feminist, thats laughable. She herself enabled bill clinton and went after the victims, theyre calling, of bill clintons infidelity, monica lewinsky, paula jones, gennifer flowers, stuff like that. On one hand theyre saying to their candidate, dont do this, this wont help you, theyre having their surrogates get involved in it in a very dish what some may call on the Hillary Clinton team an exploitive way. Stand by because i want to bring in our colleague Kristen Welker whos on the phone from des moines where we expect Hillary Clinton any minute. What is the strategy from team clinton if donald trump and if his surrogates, as weve seen them do, continue to go after former president bill clinton, as we take a live look at stage . Reporter we just landed in des moines and were actually headed to the event right now. Hi a chance to talk to some of secretary Clintons Campaign officials on the plane who essentially said let the trump team try that, its going to backfire. Let me read you the official statement from brian fallon. After his disastrous debate performance and attack on Miss Universe, donald trump is trying to deflect by going after Hillary Clinton on her marriage. While roger stone and david bossey may want to dredge up staled attacks from the 1990s, as many republicans have warned, this is a mistake that will backfire. He can try to distract against his demeaning comments against women, but if they think its going to throw Hillary Clinton off her game and what matters to move this country forward, he is wrong. So, that is the stance the campaign is taking right now. And some of clintons top surrogates point out traditionally fe

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