Transcripts For MSNBCW The Place For Politics 2016 20160421

Transcripts For MSNBCW The Place For Politics 2016 20160421

Ceremony coffee roasters, one of the five States Holding primaries next tuesday, its the second biggest prize after pennsylvania. For the republicans, 38 delegates. The latest polls show donald trump and Hillary Clinton fresh off the landslide wins in new york with double digit leads. Early voting in maryland ends today. Meanwhile the city were in still struggling to cope with the death and Police Custody of freddie gray. One year two days ago and violent protest that followed. It helped propel the black lives Matter Movement and now the retrial of one Baltimore Police officer and trials of five other officers charged in freddie grays death are scheduled to start next month. Well talk about that during this hour. But we start with politics. Donald trumps calling for ted cruz and john kasich to get out. Gop race after the Associated Press declared that they been mathematically eliminated from clinching the nomination before the convention. The republican frontrunner appeared in an exclusive town hall on nbcs today show. We have two more left and they are really they have absolutely no path to victory. In fact it was announced this morning they have no path to victory. And we have a very easy path to victory. I think theyll be gone very soon. So trump was also asked about North Carolinas controversial socalled bathroom law directing transgender people to use bathrooms matching the gender on their birth certificates and how he would be inclusive as president. Leave it the way it is, with North Carolina, with the business leaving and strife, thats on both sides, leave it the way it is. There have been few complaints the way it is. People use the bathroom they feel is appropriate. There has been so little trouble and the problem with what happened in North Carolina is the strife and economic, the economic punishment they are taking do you have any transjendser people working in your organization . I really dont know. I probably do, i dont know. Caitlyn generaler would walk in trump tower, you would be fine with her using any bathroom she chooses. Thats correct. Ted cruz about to hold that rally about 40 miles west of here in frederick, maryland. It comes a day after in july in cleveland. There you see him right there. Ted cruz, well keep our eye on that event. The senator will head to indiana holding its primary on may 3rd. Where the stop trump movement. John is itch and Bernie Sanders will be campaigning in pennsylvania. Later this hour Hillary Clinton takes part in a roundtable in Hartford Connecticut, in a state where the sandy hook shooting happened. Shell talk about her proposals to crack down on gun violence. Our nbc news correspondents fanned outstanding by to cover it all on this thursday. We start we start right now with jacob rascon, covering the Trump Campaign for us. He joins us live from indianapolis where the republican frontrunner held that rally yesterday. Were learning about new developments in morning involving the Trump Campaign. What can you tell us about those . Reporter so, were sort of been talking about trump 2. 0 for a while now. Now were really expecting a different tone when it comes to victory speeches and the policy speech, first of which weve learned will happen next week on foreign policy. And as well weve learned hes hired a speechwriter and practicing with teleprompters, totally new. Something important to realize about the tone of donald trump, in the rallies, wherever we go, even after a more president ial sounding victory speech, we always see him return to the same old trump. And we think its on purpose hes been asked about this before. For example, why did he not say lyin ted and not say senator cruz instead. He said i dont want to look like that and say that name with all of those people watching. On bigger stages when hes going to do a policy speech and at apec, hes going to sound different. Well see more of that. The first policy speech next week and it will keep going. Watch for that, craig. Jacob rascon for us this morning in indianapolis, Donald Trump Holding a rally there later today. Lets turn now to kasie hunt. Hollywood, florida, a stop trump movement, a meeting under way there. Donald trump has made a habit of bashing and making friends with the rnc, gathered for the final time there in hollywood before the partys convention in july. We know that trump sent reps to the meeting and john kasich and ted cruz appeared there. What else can you tell us about these meetings and whats supposed to happen . Reporter good morning, these meetings right now, Paul Manafort and rick wiley, those top aides to the Trump Campaign tasked with trying to make sure he wins at this convention are behind closed doors with these critical members of the rnc. All delegates themselves bound in many cases by different sets of rules depending on which state they come from. But manafort and riley have the tough task of convincing these Party Members that trump is up to beating Hillary Clinton and thats the main concern for most people here is making sure republicans regain the president ial. Of course, theyve had questions all the way along whether or not trump would be capable of doing that. I talked to some members planning to attend these briefings and they have questions about that. Whether or not the fact that hes late to the game on delegate process means he could get a campaign up and running that could beat Hillary Clinton. Whether or not he would be capable of raising a billion to billion and a half dollars that its going to take to run against her. Thats where these members head are. The question whether theres going to be an open convention and how to approach that. Ted cruz and john kasich both here yesterday making the argument that there is absolutely going to be an open convention and then of course that each one is in the best place to take advantage of that. Cruz calling kasich a spoiler, kasich getting a little angry about that saying hes not running to be anyones Vice President ial nominee. Were looking to see whether or not its starting to feel as if trump is inevitable. There are people i talked to here who say this game is already over, its clear that trump is going to win. On the flip side of that, craig, most i talked to have said the only chance trump has to actually be the nominee is to get to the 1237 on the first ballot at the convention. If hes not able to do that, all bets are off, craig. Kasie, what are they saying about possible rules changes. Reporter theres a rules meeting later today. They are being careful about not wanting to make it seem as though they think the rules should be changed ahead of this convention. This group of people all they can do is recommend changes to the rules committee that will convene that week before the convention, thats very important. Theres some discussion about the procedures on the floor and doesnt look like thats going to succeed. The key question, who is Reince Priebus going to put in charge. That person will have a lot of say over how this plays out, craig. Kasie hunt, thank you. Ted cruz holding an event right now. Not too far from where im sitting in frederick, maryland, at the Weinberg Center for the arts. Keeps government from getting in between us and our doctors. Were going to present a simple flat tax. This week was tax day. In a couple of years, every one of us will fill out our taxes on a postcard. And when we do that, we should abolish the irs. Were going to reign in the epa. And the federal regulators who have dexrended like locusts on farmers and ranchers and Small Businesses killing jobs all across this country. And were going to stop amnesty and secure the borders and end sanctuary cities and end Welfare Benefits for those here illegally. Let me tell you whats going to happen when we do all of that. Were going to see millions and millions of new high paying jobs coming back to america. Were going to see manufacturing jobs coming back to america, coming back from china, coming back from mexico. Were going to see wages rising again for working men and women and see young people coming out of school filled with hopes and filled with dreams and with two, three, four, five job offers. Well see morning in america again. The second critical issue in this election is freedom. Just a few weeks ago ted cruz there in frederick, maryland. Nbcs Hallie Jackson is also in Frederick Maryland at that ted cruz event. She joins me live now from inside. Whats the scene like there. Reporter hey, there, craig, im talking in a little bit of a golf whisper, were in the balcony here as ted cruz is speaking on stage. This is one of the areas where hes campaigning today in frederick, maryland. Its a full house. Downstairs is packed and people started to fill in the balcony as well. Cruz message today is focused not just on the race coming up but the comments donald trump made in that town hall. Cruz is taking aim at trump and he went on glenn beck radio a few minutes ago talking about how he believes thats a position that he wouldnt take essentially. Hes arguing donald trump is bowing to Political Correctness on this. Watch for cruz to underscore his position that he believes hes the only true conservative in this race and likely use this as an attack line against trump moving forward as he tries to draw contrast with the frontrunner. After this event in maryland, cruz will head to indiana. He has a retail shop and shaking hands at a restaurant. Then he has a republican dinner tonight and is set to meet with governor pence of that state. Lots to watch for today on the campaign trail and back to you. Hallie jackson in frederick, maryland, thank you. Join eed now by katrina pearson. Always appreciate your time. Thanks for being with me. Thank you. Lets start with mr. Trumps appearance this morning on today. I want to play a piece of sound from the town hall. This is where he talked about transgender people, using quote, the bathroom that they feel is appropriate. Heres what he said. Theres a big move to create new bathrooms, problem with that is for transgender, first of all i think that would be discriminatory in a certain way but it would be unbelievably expensive for businesses and the country. Leave it the way it is. Lets talk about abortion, another potent social issue. The republican platform every four years has a provision that states that the right of the unborn child should not be infringed and makes know exceptions for rape or incest or life of the mother. Would you want to change the republican platform to include the exceptions that you have . Yes, i would. Absolutely. For the three exceptions i would. Katrina, those two positions right there on transgender bathroom use and abortion, youve got a number of folks, ted cruz who we just saw who have always said that donald trump isnt a true conservative. Are we concerned these turn off more conservative voters . No, mr. Trumps positions havent changed. He has always said hes prolife with exceptions. Why wouldnt he want the platform to reflect the same thing. Nothing has changed there. His position on the bathrooms, if you listen to the entire discussion was simply about economics. When he talked about what was actually happening in the state and how they were being punished economically and businesses and people were suffering, really nothing has changed here. This is a talking point for someone like ted cruz now slipping into third place in fay lot of these upcoming states. We should note mr. Trump has acknowledged changing his position on abortion, he said 15 years ago on meet the press he was prochoice. Not as a candidate and not recently. Thats my point here. Another issue that came up during the town hall, tax reform. Heres what he said. There are some people out there not good people. For most part i have to say wall street people, they are aggressive, they are tough and smart and they bring a lot of money and a lot of jobs into this country. Do you believe in raising taxes on the wealthy . I do. Including myself. I do. All right, so heres the thing, katrina and ive got a copy of trumps tax plan, it actually appears to cut taxes for the wealthy and calls for a cut in the top income tax rate from 39. 6 to 25 . Lowest level since 1939 and calls for cutting Corporate Tax rate to 15 , offering a special tax rate of 15 to business owners. Thats less than half what they pay may pay under todays rules and abolish state tax entirely. How exactly does that square with his belief in raising taxes on the wealthy . You can go back to several of his speeches when he talks about hedge funds specifically. If youre just talking about income business income, thats different. What mr. Trump is talking about, the super wealthy and super rich what some call the 1 , their income comes from other places. When you look at these hedge fund managers, supporting ted cruz and Hillary Clinton and not trump, thats what hes talking about. Were not talking about who just built a business and been successful. Were talking alternative incomes here. That again, just doesnt square with the plan outlined on the website. When asked about the controversial comments hes made in the past about muslims and immigrants and women. This is what he said this morning. Look, i did some things and ive said some things in fun. Said it as an entertainer doing the apprentice and i just saw steve said they wanteded tory new me for two years and didnt do it because of this. Theres nobody that respects women more than i do. Theres nobody that will take care of Womens Health issues better than i will. Hillary cannot do it. She doesnt have the strength or energy. She will not be able to do it. Okay, katrina, again, thats something that weve heard a number of times that he would be great for women specifically what would he do for women, are we talking equal pay here and paid parental leave . What are we talking about specifically . How is he going to be so great for women . Hes talking about his policies, this isnt just a one issue type of thing when it comes to women. Were talking about the economy. Whether or not youre bringing back jobs or securing the border or building wall which naturally will increase wages as i will Legal Immigration tends to depress wages. Whether its Getting Health Care back on track, he was the one being criticized for appreciating what planned parenthood was doing with regard to Cervical Cancer screenings without abortions, he wasnt closed minded to these issues and why he won women in new york overwhelmingly and women in pennsylvania today. Name one policy that will benefit women specifically . Trade policy. Were talking about immigration policy. All of these issues affect women. Women are not single issue voters and i think this is the point the media misses all the time. Women want jobs and want children to have a good education and be able to find jobs and husbands to be able to find jobs. Its not just a one issue talking point for women. This is really going to hurt. You have Hillary Clinton whos been saying the exact same thing for 40 years. Her husband served two terms as president. The democrats have been in control for the last two cycles and in the very first term of president obama, democrats were in control of everything. If shes still complaining about things that havent been fixed for the last 40 years, thats a bigger problem. Mr. Trump isnt interested about talking about the problems. Hes talking about resolving those problems and those problems begin with the bigger issues of immigration, trade and taxes. Katrina pierson for the Trump Campaign, thank you so much. Great to be here, thanks, craig. The possibility of the first contested convention in 40 years throwing the gop into chaos. Coming up, ill talk to shawn spicer, the republican spokes person, well find out how the party thinks this is all going to play out over the summer. Innovative sonicare technology with up to 27 more brush movements versus oral b. Get healthier gums in 2 weeks guaranteed. Innovation and you. Philips sonicare. 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