And victory is in sight and shadow boxing. Bernie sanders says he still has a path to the nomination but is a string of hard hits waiting for him . There are five primaries next week. We think were going to do well. And we have a path toward victory which we are going to fight to maintain. Good day, everyone. Im Andrea Mitchell here in philadelphia. Were coming you live from the front street cafe in fishtown. Front runners Hillary Clinton and donald trump hoping that pennsylvania will help them cement their new york victories, the democrats have 210 total delegates at stake. The republicans 71 delegates but 54 of the 74 unbound and up for great britains in a brokered convention. Hillary clinton will be in town for two events later today. Ted cruz is in hershey, pennsylvania. And Bernie Sanders was at penn state last night. The newly self controlled donald trump fresh from his smashing new york victory will be heading to indiana today and open primary state that could be pooi pivotal to his chances of avoiding a Convention Floor fight. Im joined with kristen welker, kelly odonnell, and halley jackson. Lets talk about ted cruz with a terrible night in new york. Reporter not great at all in new york, andrea. Not unexpected for the campaign but not going to be a good week moving forward either over the next seven days looking at donald trump polling. The question for cruz then becomes, what is his path forward . How does he see himself getting the republican nomination . I know this is a very empty room right now. They have sort of torn down the trappings of the rally but before they did, senator cruz was working the rope line shaking hands. We managed to get him a question about his path forward. Listen to his response here. Nobodys getting 1,237. Donald knows that. Were headed to a contested convention. And at a contested convention, the only way you become the republican nominee is to earn the support of a majority of the delegates elected by the people. The reason donald is so terrified and the reason why hes got so many of his media surrogates repeating the mantra that the race has to be over now is because he knows he cannot earn a majority of the delegates in cleveland. Reporter so, senator cruz there with really the most definitive answer we have heard yet about a contested convention in cleveland. A couple of weeks ago in midapril he talked about the odds of going to cleveland much, much higher. But now after the New York Primary and heading into the 26th and the northeast hes been very clear. He is now being clear about what it means come july when theyre in his view a contested convention. His campaign doesnt believe that donald trump gets to the 1,237 figure to see a potential success for cruz. I want to make another point, andrea. Senator cruz all but called on john kasich to drop out essentially for becoming mathematically impossible for the nomination essentially when kasich couldnt win out enough remaining delegates. I said hows this different . You are virtually impossible for cruz to get the nomination. Our calculations at needing ii remaining delegates and krutzs response is kasich simply not won enough states. Won his home state and lost more than 30 others basically. In cruzs mind, what he is saying, arguing, kasich should be the one to remove himself, he and donald trump are the only ones left. Cruz and trump are only ones left with a plausible path to the nomination. A lot of news coming out of pennsylvania today, andrea. A little bit of a drive but i think we have the better chocolate out here . You are in chocolate town. Were envious of you, too. There in hershey, pennsylvania. Hallie jackson. Kelly odonnell here. Kelly, the Republican National committee is meeting today in florida. And thats where its all coming together. Their argument that the rules are the rules and, you know, you have to get to 1,237 votes, delegate votes. Trump going big with his argument and really out talking them, out blasting them. And reince priebus. Last night, andrea, making more of the pitch to transition to being more president ial, perfectly timed before so many of the party minds are coming together to show a little of what he might be able to do there not referring to lying ted which he has done thousands of times. First time i heard him say senator cruz. Senator cruz, almost a tone of reverence and governor kasich. I think in florida theres an internal struggle. The rules have always been the rules but the rules not tested in this way in more than a generation. And so, trump has the math on his side. Has a lot of the Public Energy on his side. And john kasich is always talking about going to convention. Were now hearing a more definitive lean that way for ted cruz. So if at the convention they can somehow get through that first ballot, if he does not go in with a sufficient number, then it becomes that issue of on a second ballot, more freedom among those assigned as delegates and could that shake the balance . Trump anticipating that and talking about if i have the most votes, if i have the most support, i should be the nominee and to try to tamp down any idea that the vote earls intent could somehow be dismissed. And kristen welker, we were both at hillary headquarters last night. Hillary clinton most excited we have seen that crowd because new york was so important to her. And it was such a resounding, smashing victory. And afterwards, there was a briefing from jen palmari, the communications chief, using really tough language about Bernie Sanders. I mean, she and her speech wooing the sanders supporters, but boy, hes come after us, been destructive, bad for the party, bad for the future of and he has to decide what to do now. Thats two key points. Senator clinton, the supporters energized. They acknowledged and felt last night was a major turning point in the race because she practically put the race out of reach for senator sanders mathematically. In order for him to come back and win through a delegate system, he would have to wing every single state moving forward by double digits and so difficult for him to do and then in terms of jen palmiri, calling on senator sanders to tone down the rhetoric, essentially. That is what were going to hear from the Clinton Campaign. They feel as though its taking a toll on the favorability. Saw it drop 11 points from the last time the poll was taken and their argument, look, if she is the nominee, we need senator sanders supporters united behind her. She said that we are stronger when were united so i think thats what to expect moving forward and here in philadelphia, as well. A great place we are in fishtown, a great neighborhood revived and were right under the elevated and not far from the old ballpark at 21st and lehigh. A place i was born. I know, i know. Its your hometown. And yours, too. Kelly odonnell, thank you so much. Despite a big loss in new york, Bernie SandersCampaign Says there is still a shot at winning the nomination. A path forward. Campaign manager jeff weaver went to the big board with Steve Kornacki last night to prove they have a plan. Were going to go to the convention. It is extremely unlikely that either candidate will have the number of pledge delegates to get to this number. Right . It is an election an election determined by the super delegates. Joining me now from washington, ted he vine, Bernie Sanders top strategist and adviser. Your colleague jeff weaver saying theres a path and saying that this is going all the way to the convention. I read a quote from you on the Associated Press last night saying youd reevaluate after california. Which is it . I said well assess how to get to the goal of a pledge delegate lead after california. We lost more yesterday than i hoped we would. We have to make some more ground. We believe we can get there. Bernie sanders can win more pledge delegates by the time the voting is done and make a strong case as jeff was pointing out to the super delegates that Bernie Sanders should be the nominee of the party, earned the nomination and would be the strongest candidate in the general election. Given that the democrats vote proporti proportionally, no winner take all situation, do you have to win pennsylvania . Do you have to win california . I mean, how do you catch up 200plus lead that they have . Sure. Well, andrea, we have to win a lot of states and delegates. You know, certainly those states are key targets for us, california at the end. Pennsylvania next week. I think we have a good shot in california to win. Hillary clinton did well in new york and won an impressive victory and not a home state anymore. Well did to where Bernie Sanders message that this system is rigged, the Campaign Finance is holding a rigged system in place. Now, what about indiana and i mean, washington sit has not been apportioned yet. We have pickups there potentially. But are the must win states by large margins pennsylvania and indiana going into california . Listen, andrea. A lot of states going to win. I think jeff pointed them out last night. Oregon, for example, people start voting very soon. They have early voting there by mail is a state where i think we can have an impressive victory. I think in all the states of the region, many not until june, dakotas, for example, i think we can win. And new mexico where, you know, weve done better with latino voters in some states and we can do well there. I think we can win. I think theres a lot of states ahead to win and a lot of delegates to win in the states so were going to keep focused on the task at hand. The New York Times had a powerful editorial pointing out why its so important that Bernie Sanders continue to make the case to the voters and hes energizing the party. We saw it yesterday in the exit polls. Two thirds of the democrats said that this campaign was energizing the party. By the way, a plurality of voters, 46 , said the Clinton Campaign was the campaign being, you know, the one that was really making a negative case. You know . And thats in a state she won overwhelmingly. They should take a step back and restrain the rhetoric we heard from some of the spokes people last night. Lets have a debate on the real issues like college education, health care for all, like how the take on climate change, whether we should have a carbon tax. Thats the debate Bernie Sanders wants and i hope we get it from Hillary Clinton. Only 14 of those in the exit polls said that they definitely would not vote for her which is a fairly low number. 65 said they definitely would. And you had 20 say they probably would vote for her. So shes got a lot of support even among sanders supporters. In addition, she won across all groups. I mean, she didnt win the young people. Other than that, from black people, older people, women, she had a really broad based victory. She did. But it was an electorate that didnt allow independents to participate. A group where she does not do well. Pennsylvania is closed and connecticut and maryland. You have to wait until you get to indiana for another open primary to draw from independents. Its true but new york is closed but its very closed. They set the deadline for independents transferring to the Democratic Party months and months ago so i think we can do well in the states coming up. Some closed. Many like california allow independents to participate and i think well do better. Taking nothing away from secretary clinton episcopal victory yesterday. Winning a general election, she has to start winning independent voters and she has not demonstrated any capacity to win support of independents in open primaries. How about the fact that by 2 to 1 the voters yesterday feel she has a better chance of defeating donald trump than Bernie Sanders . They hear that from everyone who talks on television about being ahead. It is her home state. Listen. I think both trump and secretary clinton did well in their home states. They didnt do as well as Bernie Sanders did with 86 in vermont but they did well. And, you know, we recognize that. But i think as we move through the process we believe we can win a pledge delegate victory. We believe his message is powerful, more powerful than hers and pull the Democratic Party together, particularly around the issue of whether or not it has to continue to rely on special interest funding for campaigns and talk about and when all the voting is done see where we are and decide the course we need to take. And, ted, very briefly, any toning down of the rhetoric in acknowledgment of her fairly commanding lead . I hope they tone it down and judging by jen no. Your toning down of the sanders rhetoric. Listen. I mean, a lot of this is in response to the incoming. They Just Launched a gun ad on us. Okay . So i mean, you know, you know, the left hand doesnt seem to know what the right hand is doing at the Clinton Campaign. We have to respond if they attack us. Ted devine, thank you very much. Thank you. And coming up, summer of love. Can the democrats come together before the convention here in philly . Clinton Campaign Manager joining us next. 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Well, andrea, as you yourself mentioned earlier, the math is becoming pretty overwhelming for the Sanders Campaign. We welcome senator sanders in the race. We think the competition is good for the party. But it is hard to see at this point how it is possible for him to get a majority of the pledge delegates. Thats the goal that you just heard ted set. This is a shift in strategy on their part, what they have been talking about before and heard jeff weaver say last night, was that theyre going to try to win it with super delegates to tip the scales for them. That would be a pretty big migration of super delegates considering how big hillarys lead is with pledge delegates and, look, hillary is winning on all the measures. She has shes the only candidate running democrat or republican with over 10 million votes. The lead over senator sanders in the popular vote, over 2. 5 million. She leads with close to 240 pledge delegates and curious that senator Sanders Campaign would want to override the popular vote and the will of the people in that regard. So if they now want to make it a race for pledge delegates, we think thats a race we can win based on hillarys ability to keep winning this popular vote. What about what ted devine said which is you are the ones being negative, gone up with a negative ad on guns in connecticut today and that you need to tone down your rhetoric . Well, i think thats a little bit rich considering that it was the Sanders Campaign and sanders himself who just last week was saying hillarys not qualified, making outrageous and false claims about, you know, fundraising and so on. Look. The Sanders Campaign said they had to win new york. They said this was where they would turn the tide and take the lea