Thats the International Signal thats the signal for rachel cant hear me. All right. Well, i can continue to monologue but dont cut her off like that. Lets i mean, let me and the audience kind of gradually withdraw from the rachel moment control room. Even when the sound goes down. We like seeing her and kind of saying goodbye. Even if she cant hear us. Well get it right the next time. As the United States tonight approaches 100,000 deaths from coronavirus, a new Colombia University study, which rachel was just talking about at the end of her hour, asks and answers the great what if of the coronavirus pandemic. As of tonight, the United States now has 1,581,622 confirmed cases of coronavirus and this country has suffered at least 95,003 deaths from coronavirus. Those numbers would be much, much higher if the governor of california had not been the first to shut down most activity in his state followed very quickly by governors all across the country. What if the shutdowns happened earlier and what if the president of the United States guided those shutdowns . What if the president of the United States urged people in all 50 states to stay home and avoid unnecessary travel sooner . The answers to those questions appear in a new Columbia University study entitled differential effects of intervention timing on covid19 spread in the United States. The study shows that the statewide shutdowns slowed the spread of the coronavirus and it shows that if a nationwide shut down was imposed on march 8th, 36,000 lives would have been saved. 36,000 lives. The only person in government who could have urged a nationwide shutdown was the president of the United States. If the president of the United States did that on march 8th, he could have saved 36,000 lives. What the president did on march 8th instead was play golf. The president s official schedule shows on march 8th at 8 41 a. M. The president goes from maralago to Trump International golf club in west palm beach, florida. There he is on the golf course that day, march 8th, with Washington Nationals pitcher patrick corbin. Thats what he did on march 8th. That is the typical picture of obliviousness the Trump Presidency will be remembered for. Thats what the commander in chief was doing on the day that he could have, could have saved 36,000 lives if he had paid attention to what some people in his administration said was coming with the coronavirus. The next day donald trump proudly tweeted, this is on march 9th, nothing is shut down. There was plenty of public advice being given that the country needed to at least begin to shut down at the beginning of march to save lives. There was enough of that being said including on this network that the president was publicly defiant about shutting down. As he still is. As he is today. As we approach 100,000 deaths. The president s full tweet on march 9th made light of the coronavirus in comparison to the common flu and said nothing is shut down. Life and the economy go on. At this moment there are 546 confirmed cases with 22 deaths. Think about that. Exclamation point. And Public Health officials were thinking about that. And they knew that those numbers were dramatically understated at the time because of the lack of testing. And they knew those numbers were going to skyrocket. And they knew the only way to stop the spread was to close down the country. The columbia study shows that if the country had effectively shut down on march 8th that by may 3rd we would have had 29,410 deaths instead of the number we did have on may 3rd, which is 65,307 confirmed deaths from coronavirus. There are many reasons donald trump has never said or done the right thing in confronting the coronavirus. But the most important reason may be his limited Attention Span. The president was briefed on the coronavirus repeatedly in january including by his secretary of health and human services. Warnings about the coronavirus were also included in the president s daily brief, which is the Intelligence Communitys daily assessment of worldwide threats to the United States and other issues worthy of the most serious president ial attention. Julian barns and adam goldman have delivered a report in the New York Times today about the challenge of intelligence officials trying to brief the president saying donald trump is quote particularly difficult to brief on Critical NationalSecurity Matters according to interviews with ten current and former intelligence officials familiar with his intelligence briefings. The president veers off on tangents and getting him back on topic is difficult, they said. He has a short Attention Span and rarely, if ever, reads intelligence reports, relying instead on conservative media and his friends for information. He is unashamed to interrupt Intelligence Officers and riff baseded on tips or gossip he hears from the former casino magnate steve wynn, the retired golfer gary player, or christopher ruddy, the conservative media executive. Mr. Trump rarely absorbs information that he disagrees with or that runs counter to his worldview, the officials said. Briefing him has been so great a challenge compared with his predecessors that the intelligence agencies have hired outside consultants to study how better to present information to him. Outside consultants . You mean psychiatrists for the answer to of how do you talk to a person like this . Donald trump made a Campaign Trip to michigan today thinly disguised as a president ial trip to visit a ford factory that has been repurposed to manufacture ventilators. When the president spoke to the news media there, he was of course asked about not wearing a mask. And the president said this. Well, i did wear i had one on before. I wore one in this back area, but i didnt want to give the press the pleasure of seeing it. I had it in the back area. I did. I was given a choice and i had one on in an area where they preferred it so i put it on and it was very nice. It looked very nice. It looked very nice. Thats what hes concerned about. Thats what hes worried about as we approach 100,000 deaths. How does his mask look . It looked very nice. It looked so nice donald trump was afraid that any of us or any of you would see what he looks like in a mask but thanks to nbc news, we now have a tweeted photo of donald trump wearing that mask at the ford factory today. And we leave it to you to judge if it looks very nice. One reason the Trump Administration and donald trump personally are so corrupt is that donald trump doesnt actually know what corruption is. He often does not know that he is crossing the line of corruption and he is now publicly reveling in his corruption of the scientific work done by the centers for disease kroeshlgs a once esteemed research and Public Health institution in this country, whose credibility suffers daily under the thumb of donald trump. 9 president proudly proclaimed today that he is ordering, ordering the cdc to say that its perfectly okay for everyone to go back to church. At the end of march you will recall donald trump said that he wanted packed churches, that was his phrase, packed churches on Easter Sunday. And if that had happened, thousands of those people in those packed churches on Easter Sunday would be dead today. And now donald trump really wants to fill those churches again. Were going to open our churches again. I think cdc is going to put something out very soon. I spoke to them today. I think they are going to put something out soon. Weve got to open our churches. People want to go in. I said you better put it out and theyre doing it, and theyre going to be issuing something today or tomorrow on churches. Weve got to get our churches open. Leading off our discussion tonight ron klain, former senior aide to president obama and Vice President biden. He served as the ebola czar during ought bama administration. And dr. Rob davis is with us. Hes an emergency medicine physician. Hes the director of the committee to prekd medicare. Dr. Davis joins us from michigan. Ron klain, i want to start with what we just heard about donald trump trying to get people back into churches. But hes saying that hes telling the cdc what to say about churches and hes telling the cdc youd better get it out. Yeah, i mean, the centers for Disease Control before this began was the worlds most esteemed Public Health agency. People from around the world sought the cdcs advice and guidance on how to handle epidemics in their country. Of course americans have always sought it out in how to handle epidemics and other Public Health challenges in our country. The president said hes going to corrupt that Institution Just like hes corrupted every other. Todays statement by the president was more obvious but it wasnt the first. We know that this Current Situation began back in february when dr. Nancy messonier, the senior person at cdc in charge of respiratory diseases, spoke publicly about how the country was going to be disrupted by this virus and the president called and said she should be fired and silenced. And weve heard very little from her and the cdc in public ever since. So the president has tried to silence the cdc, hes trying to corrupt the cdc, what hes tried all along is not to let science guide the response and were all paying the price for that. Dr. Davidson, donald trump said today that the reason he doesnt have to wear a mask even though he was wearing a mask some of the time he was at that ford plant but the reason he justifies for not wearing a mask is that he gets tested a lot, and so what hes saying is if you get tested a lot you dont have to take the same precautions that people who do not get tested. Well, he may be at lower risk than other people, although hes in contact with a lot of individuals, and the tests they are using at the white house, the rapid test that uses a dry method, a study out of nyu last week said there may be up to 48 false negative. The president may be harboring the virus and he just does not know it. More important, he has the attention of millions of americans, both people that much support him ardently no matter what he does and others are just casual passersby that happen to look up at the tv screen. And when they see the leader of the country not wearing a mask it gives them license to say, well, i dont have to go to wear a mask, so when i go to the grocery store, the pharmacy, i dont have to protect my fellow citizens because the president doesnt have to do that. Its about leadership and speaking with one voice and hes failing us yet again on that. All right. Control room. Lets get the picture of him with the mask on up again since he hasnt been Wearing Masks, its good for america to see this example, and ron klain, as we look at the mask, we should include the fact that the ford company told the president s team that you are required to wear masks there. They said they, of course, wouldnt force the president to wear a mask but at least, and i guess well call this progress in trump world, at least the president , as we see in that picture compiled with fords policy while he was actually meeting with the ford people and discussing what was happening there at the plant. So there is that. Lets listen to what the governor of michigan just told Rachel Maddow about this. All of the ford executives wore the masks. All of the employees were Wearing Masks. All of the press were. And its really important that anyone with a platform has a responsibility to make sure that they model precisely what were asking everyone else to do. This is about Public Health, not one persons or another. This is about all of us, and anyone in a position of power and responsibility, i hope emulates and does precisely what they are asking everyone else to do. So ron, theres a piece of progress there in that the president did at least wear a mask but this really was a Campaign Trip. This was nonessential travel to that ford plant. Well, theres a piece of progress, lawrence, but of course its ironic because what the president said was i didnt intend to have you see me in a mask, i intended to not have you see me in a mask, i was hiding it, which is what Governor Whitmer suggests is exactly backwards. You began the program that 36,000 americans died because the president froze and didnt act quickly on shutting things down. The question now is how Many Americans will die now because the president continues to flaunt the idea that we should be Wearing Masks not to protect ourselves but to protect others . This is a Public Health matter just like drunk driving is a Public Health matter. We shouldnt drive drunk because it makes us safer but more importantly, it makes other people on the road safer. We should wear masks for the same reason, to protect others. When the president basically makes fun of this requirement, makes fun of this, hes really telling people its not important, and a lot of you know, the death toll will continue to mount as a result. Dr. Davidson, you joined us on many nights when it seemed michigan was being overwhelmed. What is the situation in michigan today . Whats happened to the curve there . What is happening . How much caution still remains among the people of michigan . We know there are some protesters, but whats the general level of caution there . I think were being extremely cautious but you played a clip of our governor. Were extremely proud of her leadership. She has modeled exemplary leadership in this crisis. The only reason that we are able to start coming out of the shutdown. She announced . Relaxing of that today. But still in west michigan where i practice some cases are starting to creep up a little bit. And you know, we talked about hydroxychloroquine this week with the president. We talked about masks. But his greatest failure still to date is the lack of adequate testing so we can test, trace and isolate and truly safely open this economy and get americans back to work in a lasting way. And the more we dont talk about that is id say a pretty good day in the news cycle for donald trump. So we need to keep pressing him. Were getting about a third of the tests we need every day in this country. We need the president to use the defense production act, give us the tests so we can do the job we need to do. Dr. Rob davidson, thank you very much for bringing us back to where we should be on this subject. Really appreciate it. Ron klain, thank you for helping start us off tonight. Appreciate that. And when we come back, senator Kamala Harris is going to join us. Lets in the control room put up that photograph of donald trump wearing his mask today because the country should see that. Very good example of his as much as possible. Not because he doesnt want us to see it but because it is actually a good example. Kamala harris warned donald trump in very strong language, though, that he is on the verge of committing a federal crime on another front. Youll hear that warning directly from senator harris. Next. Yall know what this is good lovin, no questions reach out and youll touch me bad habits, dont judge me just dont waste my time good lovin, no questions, baby reach out and youll touch me bad habits, dont judge me just dont waste my time and ask your doctor about biktarvy. Biktarvy is a complete, onepill, onceaday treatment used for hiv in certain adults. Its not a cure, but with one small pill, biktarvy fights hiv to help you get to and stay undetectable. Thats when the amount of virus is so low it cannot be measured by a lab test. Research shows people who take hiv treatment every day and get to and stay undetectable can no longer transmit hiv through sex. 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So you may want to talk with your lawyer bill barr about that, and that would be my advice. Joining our discussion now, senator Kamala Harris, democrat from california, member of the Judiciary Committee and the Senate Intelligence committee. Senator, thank you very much for joining us tonight. And i just wanted to reemphasize that point that you made so strongly. This is in effect what the president got impeached for, isnt it . Well, it is yet again at least an attempt at committing a crime by donald trump. In terms of