The New York Times is reporting tonight that new york state insurance regulators are investigating President Trump and his company because of Michael Cohens answers to congresswoman alexandria cortez. Have they inflateed to an Insurance Company . Yes. Who else knows that the president did this . Weisselberg, cale marry. The New York Times says new york state regulators issued an extra expansive first step of the insurance policies exclaims involving President Trumps Family Business according to a person briefed on the matter. The New York Times also reports that the ninepage subpoena demand as broad range of materials dating back to 2009. The subpoena demands copies of all communications between an Insurance Broker and donald trump and the trump organization, state and federal investigators are not the only ones that found Michael Cohens testimony credible enough to require further investigation, a new poll shows that 50 of voters believe Michael Cohen now more than they believe President Trump with only 35 believe President Trump more than they believe Michael Cohen. That same poll shows that 64 of voters believe that President Trump committed crimes before he took office. Only 24 do not believe the president committed crimes before he took office. 45 of voters believe that the president has committed crimes while in office. 43 do not believe that the president has committed crimes while in office. Michael cohen provided the House OversightCommittee Evidence that President Trump has indeed committed crimes both before he took office during his president ial campaign and while in office as president. That evidence came in the form of checks delivered to Michael Cohen from President Trump including one that was signed in the white house by the president. Michael cohen testified that those checks were part of an illegal pay off scheme to Stormy Daniels to buy her silence about her affair with donald trump during the president ial campaign. In february of 2017, one month into his presidency, im visiting President Trump in the oval office for the first time and he says to me something to the effect of dont worry michael, your january and february reimbursement checks are coming. They were fedexed from new york and it takes awhile for that to get through the white house system. As he promised, i received the first check for 70,000 not long thereafter. Here is that february check for 70,000 which covered two months of the agreed upon payment of 35,000 a month to Michael Cohen to reimburse him for the money that he paid to Stormy Daniels. Note that this check came from the donald j. Trump trust account. The trust account. That check is signed by the trump chief Financial OfficerAlan Weisselberg and donald trump junior. Michael cohen received another check with the same signatures from the same trust account a month later for his Monthly Payment of 35,000. And the check that Michael Cohen produced in last weeks hearing with Donald Trumps signature was written six months into the Trump Presidency and came from a different account, what appears to be a personal Checking Account of donald j. Trump, the accounts used to pay these checks are an important element of this story, which we will explore in a moment with Michael Cohens lawyer lanny davis. One of the least important manners Michael Cohen testified to was Donald Trumps desperate concern to keep his academic records from high school and college hidden from public view. When i say con man, a man that declares himself brilliant but directed me to threaten his high school, his colleges, and the College Board to never release his grades or s. A. T. Scores. As i mentioned, im giving the committee today copies of a letter i sent at mr. Trumps direction threatening these schools with civil and criminal actions if mr. Trumps grades or s. A. T. Scores were ever disclosed without his permission. The University Confirmed they were threatened to keep Donald Trumps transcript hidden and the university of pennsylvania where donald trump transferred made no Public Comment and the Washington Post is reporting friends of donald trump tried to seize his High School Records in 2011 right after donald trump said that he wanted president obama to quote show his records because donald trump believed that barack obama was quote a terrible student. The word is, according to what ive read that he was a terrible student when he went to ox dental. Maybe thats right or wrong but i dont know why he doesnt release his records. Its against the law for schools to publicly release students transcripts but Ivy League Schools like the university of pennsylvania and harvard where barack obama graduated from law school do make public records of the students who graduate with honors and then Ivy League Schools most students actually graduate with honors, not graduating with honors is unusual in Ivy League Schools. There are three levels. Donald trump did not graduate with honors from the university of pennsylvania. That is public information. And that puts him somewhere in the bottom half of his class academically even though the president once claimed to have graduated as the number one student in his class. Barack obama did graduate from harvard law school. We have the breaking news report by the wall street journal that Michael Cohens lawyers discussed the possibility of a pardon and reported Rudy Giuliani left open the possibility that the president could grant mr. Cohen one in the future. Here is what Michael Cohen said about a pardon last week. My testimony certainly does not diminish the pain that i have caused my family and my friends. Nothing can do that. And i have never asked for nor would i accept a pardon from President Trump. And leading off our discussion tonight is lanny davis, an attorney for Michael Cohen. Lanny davis, thank you for joining us tonight. Appreciate it. I want to start with the pardon which we just introduced here. The wall street journal reporting was not that Michael Cohen personally requested a pardon but his lawyers at some point discussed the possibility of a pardon with President Trumps lawyers and that Rudy Giuliani for one left open the possibility. Is that accurate reporting . Yes, the time period is what needs to be stressed. Michael cohen lied for donald trump for ten years and is going to prison in part because of a lie to congress as well as the coverup scheme that donald trump is still paying for or was paying for when you showed those checks. The statement that michael made was after he made a decision and i think i was part of that when he decided to express his shame for his prior lies when he was certainly looking at the option of pardon when they were dangling that as a way of i think luring people to stay within the tent. And then when he decided on july 2nd, 2018, i will not lie anymore and he asked me to help him tell the truth. So that sentence, which i helped write was about the time period after he decided as we decided to call it his turn to the truth and at that point, he said to me i want you to publicly say i wouldnt accept a pardon if he begged me to take it, and i said are you sure . And he said yes. And i went out publicly and i said he would never accept a pardon and that was the reference intended by that sentence. Why wouldnt he accept a pardon . Who has not accepted a pardon . Well, i was doubtful when he said it to me. He was in a great, stressful situation with a wife and two kids and looking at a prison sentence potentially. And he had lied for ten years and was expressing shame to me and i said are you willing to say that publicly . And you have a deep hole and you are a good man, and a good father but in order to win credibility which i see from the polls he has won, you need to be willing to tell the truth and all the truth and part of that is would you accept a pardon to get out of this fixture and from this man that you describe as having done dirty deeds for ten years and he said to me yes and then he said i want you to say that publicly maybe people will believe me and i did. And i want to get your reaction also to what were seeing as the expanding investigations. Michael cohen speaks and the requests for documents fly. Its hard to remember a congressional reaction like this to congressional testimony over 80 requests for documents from the white house from trump businesses, from other government entities, all almost all of them coming out of Michael Cohens testimony, which is continuing as we know there will be more Michael Cohen testimony tomorrow morning. Is that what you expected knowing, you knew in advance what Michael Cohens testimony was going to be, did you expect it to provoke this follow up . I honestly did but its still more to come because we had a list of subjects that was basically Michael Cohens confession of him facilitating these subjects or his memory of them. And one of them for example, you mentioned the grades. He threatened a Major Educational Institution with criminal sanctions if they released Donald Trumps grades. On another occasion, michael said to the American People and to every serviceman and every rural american who considers themselves to be patriots listen to this, if you voted for donald trump, he said to Michael Cohen, dont say anything if people ask for proof of my bone spur that allowed me to not go to vietnam, and then he said quote, you got to be stupid to go to vietnam. Michael was forbidden to respond to reporters questions what turns out to be a fake assertion he had a bone spur to get out of serving and he said mr. President , isnt it ironic people have to be stupid to serve in vietnam and youre now in vietnam. Of course, in a failed negotiation with the north Korean Leader but thats the kind of thing that is going to encourage more investigations. He lied to the secret service. Excuse me, the Selective Service on his draft deferments and almost everything in his testimony, if you reread it is a subject area that will be grounds for further investigation. I want to go to what one member of the committee called the smoking gun and that was the check that Michael Cohen produced with the president s signature on it written in august so thats about six months into the Trump Presidency, possibly signed on that desk in the oval office because these checks had to be fedexed down to the white house so that the president himself could sign them, that is what the president told Michael Cohen in the oval office according to Michael Cohen. I noticed lanny, that the one the president signed is not from a business account. It is not from a Trump Company account. It simply has the name donald j. Trump on it that looks to me like a personal check. That would be a very odd source for a business payment, for if Michael Cohen is being retained by the business in a retainer agreement, it strikes me as odd that the trump business isnt paying for those Legal Services. Well, first of all, im a lawyer and i always try to use the word alleged if were talking about crime because everyone is entitled to due process including donald trump but there is literally no way to dispute he committed a crime. He not only wrote a personal check but invented a coverup story it was a retainer check. The word invented and fictional or bogus was not my opinion, it is a fact there was no retainer agreement. It was a scheme concocted by michael, by donald trump and by mr. Weisselberg as a way of avoiding tracing the pay off money, the hush money to Stormy Daniels. The prosecutors and the u. S. Government said that in the information statement on michaels plea of guilt. There is no doubt that the word reimbursement was the reimbursement of Michael Cohen advancing the hush money and who said the word reimbursement after donald trump denied knowing anything about the Stormy Daniels payment at all . Rudy giuliani on television called it a reimbursement to Michael Cohen. So there were no facts in dispute that the president of the United States as president committed a felony. Literally, there is no way to dispute that statement and alleged is a word you have to use. I cant find the ability to use the word alleged because everything i said is undisputable fact. That shows a felony, a conspiracy to pay hush money and to cover it up. Two of the checks weve seen so far apparently there are going to be more available for public inspection were signed by Alan Weisselberg and donald trump junior and those were taken from the trust account, the accounts set up that donald trump is not supposed to touch, its supposed to be the separation of the trump businesses from the Trump Presidency. But Alan Weisselberg presumably has testified or been questioned by the fbi about this in new york city since thats the office that has been prosecuting the Michael Cohen case and Alan Weisselberg, do you know if hes taken the position there was indeed a retainer agreement for Michael CohensLegal Services that this was payment for that had nothing to do with Stormy Daniels . That was the cover story i know because mr. Weisselberg and michael and mr. Trump together decided that michael needed to do it to avoid it being traced because two or three days before an election that turned out to be close and won by mr. Trump. They did not want after access hollywood, the story about an adult film star being subject to a hush money payment. Mr. Weisselberg said i cant afford it and why dont you do it from your line of credit but we dont want it traceable to the trump organization. To answer your question, mr. Weisselberg was given limited immunity by the federal prosecutors in the Southern District. Michael had to plead guilty. Mr. Weisselberg was given immunity but limited. I dont know the answer to whether he told the prosecutors about this scheme and told the truth that there was never a retainer. This was a coverup but now the question is his signing that check as implementing this hush money illegal scheme is a crime. And the question is did he tell the federal prosecutors about the signing of these checks at the time he was granted limited immunity, thats something between him and his lawyer. Lanny, we saw on television there wasnt a single republican who went anywhere near the smoking gun. They would not touch the smoking gun of the check signed by donald trump and the other check signed by Alan Weisselberg and i me there has been testimony behind closed doors and can you tell us if any republicans have at any point challenged or questioned Michael Cohen at any point about these checks . No. And i sat there not necessarily surprised that the republicans on the House Oversight committee, many of them people that i respect and descent people, descent friends, descent parents and descent human beings never once mentioned donald trump throughout the entire hearing. They pounded away at what michael had already admitted to in shame that he had lied for ten years for don