Take a stand against 76 of what americans think is right. Several republicans and democrats including my first guest tonight, california senator harris spent the weekend making statements and tweeting strong opposition to President Trump ending daca. But in trumps mind, there was the looming headline that appears in breitbart today if the president did nothing about daca, and then, of course, there was the president himself. The candidate who campaigned on ending daca had only this to say when last asked about it on friday. Should d. R. E. A. M. Ers be worried . We love the dreamers. The president would delay a final big decision on daca for six months, an immigration hard
liner told the New York Times hes being pulled in a bunch of Different Directions and because he doesnt have any strong anchor or deep knowledge of the issue, he ends up sort of not knowing what to do. I think the fact that they did nothing to it suggests that they had no idea what to do. That was an assumption that the president would do nothing to daca today, and so with no good choice left to the president , because of his own rhetoric on the subject, and the pressure of what his supporters expect, today the president politically punted. He delayed the big decision for six months and challenged congress to come up with a legislative version of daca in the meantime. But the president did stop new applications for the daca program, and just to prove how politically confounded he was by the decision and how much he didnt want responsibility for it, he handed the big public
moment to his least favorite cabinet member to make what was really a president ial announcement. Im here today to announce that the program known as daca that was effectuated under the Obama Administration is being rescinded. Jeff sessions may have loved saying that today, but it wasnt true. The daca Program Still lives. And in the president s Written Statement that he was afraid to say publicly on camera, the president said work permits will be honored until their date of expiration up to two full years from today. Further more, applications already in the pipeline will be processed as will renewal applications for those facing near term expiration. This is a gradual process, not a sudden phaseout. Permits will not begin to expire for another six months and will remain active for up to 24 months. Breitbart and the right wing could have attacked the president today for breaking
another Campaign Pledge by refusing to end daca while inviting congress to legislate a permanent version of daca, but breitbart went along with the false Jeff Sessions concept what the president was going through with his Campaign Promise and daca was being rescinded. Breitbart said trump, sessions repeal daca. That was before the president s tweet tonight in which he clearly tried to soften the blow of what he did to the dreamers today. Congress now has six months to legalize daca. If they cant, i will revisit this issue. California senator harris was one of only 11 senators who voted against general john kellys confirmation as secretary of Homeland Security. She did that, because in testimony at his confirmation
hearing, senator harris could not get assurances from kelly about how the Trump Administration would treat the dreamers. In a Statement Today senator harris said President Trump has once again sided with division and hate. Joining us now from an exclusive interview, kamala harris. Thank you for joining us. The president has Given Congress a challenge today. Its up to you to save these dreamers. Do you think theres a bipartisan possibility of getting a dream act passed in the next six months . I do, lawrence. Im cosponsoring a bill with senator graham and others, and i think that there is leadership on the republican side of the aisle to get this done. Because frankly its just the right thing to do, and i think that we have got to realize that we have as many as 800,000 young people in our country right now
who have only known one home, and this is it. They are contributing to our economy. They are serving in our military, and we need to do the right thing for these kids. Not to mention the fact that when they first applied for daca, we told them we would not share their personal information with i. C. E. Our country has to keep our promise to these young people. So the leaders in congress, we have to lead by example, and if we expect and want the young people of our country to live responsibly and to follow the rules and play by the rules, we should too. California has the largest number of dreamers. Some estimates 220,000. Its the single biggest home in the United States to these people, and california is not one of states whose Attorney General is trying to sue to end daca. What is it that california knows about this program . What is it in your experience as a former california attorney
general . What would you tell the other states, especially the ones like texas and the other states that are suing to stop daca . What would you tell them about this program that you feel california knows that they dont. Its a wonderful question. The one thing, lawrence, that ive been become aware of is there are a lot of people expressing opinions about daca that have never met a dreamer. What i know being from the state that has the largest number, 0 220,000, these are great kids. I met a young woman this weekend. She came up to me, and she one, asked for support, but then she just broke down crying uncontrollably, because shes terrified, lawrence, and this is a great kid. She is part of a shes actually part of doing free arts for kids in the community, and helping out and being a part of her community. And she was crying
uncontrollably. Shes so afraid. So i think part of what has to happen is that more people really should inform themselves about who these young people really are. And stop demonizing them. Its very easy to have an opinion about something you dont know. But its also irresponsible. And so i think at the more stories that we can tell about the young people that i meet every day in california who, again, are in our colleges, theyre in our law schools, they started small businesses, they are serving in our military. Theyre working in fortune companies. The more stories are known, the more theyll know passing the dream act is the right thing to do. The president was torn thats the word we see in backstage reporting at the white house and he seems to have satisfied no one. The dreamers who hes given kind of a sixmonth window to hope for a new legislative solution cant be satisfied. Theres a real threat to them and what happened today. And then the hard core Trump Supporters who want to see bus loads of the kids deported immediately can take no satisfaction in what happened. It seems like the president couldnt find his way out of the political corner he painted himself into. Well, listen. From the beginning i think the president has been clear about where he is on this, and other issues related to immigration. I serve on many committees in the senate including Homeland Security committee, and we reviewed the president s nominee to be secretary of dhs who now the chief of staff, john kelly. I asked him in an open hearing would he promise to keep would he commit to keep Americas Promise to these kids and not share their personal information with i. C. E. He refused to make that commit. This was many months ago. So im not surprised that were in this situation. But i do believe that my colleagues in the United States senate can do the right thing. I believe there is a will to do the right thing. But in terms of the demonization of these young people, these dreamers, theres so much that is just misrepresentation of fact. Just really just outright untruths. For example, lawrence, it is well documented that if we get rid of daca and do not pass a daca at a stat choir, that we will lose 700,000 jobs in the United States. It is well documented that over the next ten years if we rescind daca without replacing it, we will lose 60 billion in tax dollars. So there is real economic benefit to allowing these young people who have only known this is their home to be able to work, to be able to contribute to our economy, and to be able to contribute to our society. The president seems to have
the opposite view of how it affects jobs. He said today in his Written Statement, we must also have heart and compassion for unemployed struggling, and forgotten americans. That is a false choice. There is no question that we need to take care of hardworking americans who want to work, many of whom lost their jobs during the great recession, and they need a pathway to finding meaningful employment. And we can do a much better job of helping them do that, and we can help these young people who are called dreamers who are also contributing to the economy. Its a false choice to say its one over the other, and its irresponsible to suggest to Hard Working Americans that the only thing preventing them from getting a job are dreamers. What needs to happen is we need to do a much better job to actually get employment and paths to employment for americans who want to work. Senator, it seems Attorney GeneralJeff Sessions has a different definition of compassion than you do. Lets listen to what he said today. Okay. The compassionate thing to do is in the lawlessness, enforce our laws, and if congress chooses to make changes to the la laws, to do so through the process by our founders in a way that advances the interest of the American People. Thats what Jeff Sessions says is the compassionate thing to do. Again, weve got to stop vilifying this population, and as a leader, you got to stop pulling out the boogie man. These young people, lets be clear, they qualify for daca because they cleared a vetting where there was a very, very intense process of looking into their backgrounds. Lets everybody be clear about who these daca kids are. In order for them to qualify for daca, they had to answer a lot of questions, and there was basically an investigative process that took place to determine the circumstances of their arrival, to determine are they living a lawful life . Have they ever committed a crime . Are they productive . And only when they cleared that vet did they receive daca status. So yes, we want to make sure. We dont want people who are committing crimes in our country to be here if theyre undocumented. But we also have to understand that when were talking about these kids who are in daca, they have cleared a vetting process. For the Attorney General to suggest that they are other than lawful in terms of a particular committing crimes is just its irresponsible. Senator harris, i want to get a minute on your position on the Senate Intelligence committee, a
position that is more important than ever with the investigation of the russia connections to donald trump and the Trump Campaign. There are some issues arising about cooperation with the mueller investigation. Mueller would like a transcript of an interview the Intelligence Community staff had with paul manafort. And there are some other questions of cooperation. Do you believe that you should be sharing that information . Are you in favor of sharing that information with the Special Prosecuter . First of all, i have a great deal of respect for robert mueller, and also im a big advocate for him having independence and being able to do his work without any interference from the administration or anybody else. In terms of the coordination, if you will, between the various investigations including the investigation thats being conducted by the committee on which i serve, the Senate Intelligence committee, there is coordination that happens. There is a process for
deconfliction, and i believe that the process is moving along in accordance with an understanding that each investigation has its own purpose and that we should encourage each investigation to pursue the facts where they lead them. And senator, finally a health care question. You have become the first cosponsor on Bernie Sanders medicare for all single payer bill. People took notice of that everywhere including in local media in california that cover you. And one of the reasons theres a lot of interest is that Bernie Sanders was very successful as a president ial candidate in pulling in certainly on the left side of the democratic party, people begin to wonder with that move joining Bernie Sanders bill, does that mean you might follow in Bernie Sanders steps as a president ial candidate . The reason im supporting medicare for all is pretty basic, which is that its i
believe the moral and ethical right thing to do, and to do otherwise means to have a system where were just not being smart, where we are not maximizing our ability to make sure that every american, every person has access to health care. Lets just look at the Public Health model that tells us well, you want to deal with epidemics, the best way is prevention first. Emergency room, its too late and too expensive. Medicare for all as a goal, well be able to ensure that americans are having access to health care from the day they are born throughout their lives. And thats just smart for us as taxpayers. Well, i guess youll just continue to think about what you might do in 2020 and we can talk about it the next time. Lawrence, i dont even know what im having for dinner. Okay. Senator, thank you very much for joining us tonight. I appreciate it. Youre welcome. Take care. Thank you. Coming up, we have breaking news tonight about the trump russia investigation and
why republicans on the House Intelligence Committee are frustrated by the trump Justice Department, and later, an important new book tells the story of how donald trump became the president of fantasy land. Marcopolo marco. polo marco. polo marco. polo marco. si . Polo marco. polo scusa . Ma io sono marco polo, ma. Marco. playing marco polo with marco polo . Surprising. Ragazzini, io sono marco polo. Si, sono qui. Whats not surprising . How much money amanda and keith saved by switching to geico. Ahhh. Polo. Marco. polo fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more. I have a great heart for the folks were talking about. A great love for them. And people think in terms of children, but theyre really young adults. I have a love for these people, and hopefully now congress will be able to help them and do it properly. I can tell you in speaking to members of congress, they want to be able to do something and do it right, and really, we have no choice. We have to be able to do something, and i think its going to work out very well, and long term, its going to be the right solution. Joining us now, the president and ceo of latino, and also with us franco odoniez. Maria, the president repeatedly refers to his love, thats his word, his love for the dreamers. He had a strange way of showing
it today. Well, this love is abusive. Hes literally playing into the hands and into the mental state of 800,000 young people who thought they had done right by the law by coming forward and tried to play by the rules the u. S. Government set forth for them. This is if anything, a bit cynical for him to be talking about the fact that he loves them, when, in fact, hes Wreaking Havoc on him. The tweet he sent out minutes before the show saying he will revisit it if congress doesnt act. Thats unfair. We need clarity on what should be done next. The d. R. E. A. M. Ers i know are standing up. We need the American People saying this is not who we are. Franco, when congress has an arbitrarily arrived at deadline like the president saying ill give you six months, the first thing you can expect of the deadline is that it will be moved. That is the most likely thing to happen to a deadline that has no real imperative to it. And the president ial tweet tonight indicates that may very well be the next thing that happens just to repeat that tweet, he said congress now has six months to legalize daca. Something the Obama Administration was unable to do. If they cant, i will revisit the issue. And so franco, there he is on the day he makes what is supposed to be the big decision, saying six months from now ill revisit it. Yeah. After a day of criticism, its interesting that immediately he is already kind of flirting with the idea of helping the d. R. E. A. M. Ers again. Its the reality is that this congress, its going to be very difficult to pass any significant type of legislation involving immigration. Including the d. R. E. A. M. Ers. A droo. R. E. A. M. Er act of any ki. Hes talking about a comprehensive bill. He was talking today in the White House Briefing that he wants a comprehensive measure and even floated the idea of
possibly exchanging a d. R. E. A. M. Act for border funding. To get it in six months is a high bar. But the white house would not say today that given that ambition of wanting a big bill that might include d. R. E. A. M. Ers and funding for a border wall, the obvious question is okay, but would the president sign a bill that was just for the d. R. E. A. M. Ers. There was no answer from the white house on this. Lets listen to what senator graham said today about his challenge to republicans. My challenge to t