Take a stand against 76 of what americans think is right. Several republicans and democrats including my first guest tonight, california senator harris spent the weekend making statements and tweeting strong opposition to President Trump ending daca. But in trumps mind, there was the looming headline that appears in breitbart today if the president did nothing about daca, and then, of course, there was the president himself. The candidate who campaigned on ending daca had only this to say when last asked about it on friday. Should d. R. E. A. M. Ers be worried . We love the dreamers. The president would delay a final big decision on daca for six months, an immigration hard
liner told the New York Times hes being pulled in a bunch of Different Directions and because he doesnt have any strong anchor or deep knowledge of the issue, he ends up sort of not knowing what to do. I think the fact that they did nothing to it suggests that they had no idea what to do. That was an assumption that the president would do nothing to daca today, and so with no good choice left to the president , because of his own rhetoric on the subject, and the pressure of what his supporters expect, today the president politically punted. He delayed the big decision for six months and challenged congress to come up with a legislative version of daca in the meantime. But the president did stop new applications for the daca program, and just to prove how politically confounded he was by the decision and how much he didnt want responsibility for it, he handed the big public
moment to his least favorite cabinet member to make what was really a president ial announcement. Im here today to announce that the program known as daca that was effectuated under the Obama Administration is being rescinded. Jeff sessions may have loved saying that today, but it wasnt true. The daca Program Still lives. And in the president s Written Statement that he was afraid to say publicly on camera, the president said work permits will be honored until their date of expiration up to two full years from today. Further more, applications already in the pipeline will be processed as will renewal applications for those facing near term expiration. This is a gradual process, not a sudden phaseout. Permits will not begin to expire for another six months and will remain active for up to 24 months. Breitbart and the right wing could have attacked the president today for breaking
another Campaign Pledge by refusing to end daca while inviting congress to legislate a permanent version of daca, but breitbart went along with the false Jeff Sessions concept what the president was going through with his Campaign Promise and daca was being rescinded. Breitbart said trump, sessions repeal daca. That was before the president s tweet tonight in which he clearly tried to soften the blow of what he did to the dreamers today. Congress now has six months to legalize daca. If they cant, i will revisit this issue. California senator harris was one of only 11 senators who voted against general john kellys confirmation as secretary of Homeland Security. She did that, because in testimony at his confirmation
hearing, senator harris could not get assurances from kelly about how the Trump Administration would treat the dreamers. In a Statement Today senator harris said President Trump has once again sided with division and hate. Joining us now from an exclusive interview, kamala harris. Thank you for joining us. The president has Given Congress a challenge today. Its up to you to save these dreamers. Do you think theres a bipartisan possibility of getting a dream act passed in the next six months . I do, lawrence. Im cosponsoring a bill with senator graham and others, and i think that there is leadership on the republican side of the aisle to get this done. Because frankly its just the right thing to do, and i think that we have got to realize that we have as many as 800,000 young people in our country right now
who have only known one home, and this is it. They are contributing to our economy. They are serving in our military, and we need to do the right thing for these kids. Not to mention the fact that when they first applied for daca, we told them we would not share their personal information with i. C. E. Our country has to keep our promise to these young people. So the leaders in congress, we have to lead by example, and if we expect and want the young people of our country to live responsibly and to follow the rules and play by the rules, we should too. California has the largest number of dreamers. Some estimates 220,000. Its the single biggest home in the United States to these people, and california is not one of states whose Attorney General is trying to sue to end daca. What is it that california knows about this program . What is it in your experience as a former california attorney
general . What would you tell the other states, especially the ones like texas and the other states that are suing to stop daca . What would you tell them about this program that you feel california knows that they dont. Its a wonderful question. The one thing, lawrence, that ive been become aware of is there are a lot of people expressing opinions about daca that have never met a dreamer. What i know being from the state that has the largest number, 0 220,000, these are great kids. I met a young woman this weekend. She came up to me, and she one, asked for support, but then she just broke down crying uncontrollably, because shes terrified, lawrence, and this is a great kid. She is part of a shes actually part of doing free arts for kids in the community, and helping out and being a part of her community. And she was crying
uncontrollably. Shes so afraid. So i think part of what has to happen is that more people really should inform themselves about who these young people really are. And stop demonizing them. Its very easy to have an opinion about something you dont know. But its also irresponsible. And so i think at the more stories that we can tell about the young people that i meet every day in california who, again, are in our colleges, theyre in our law schools, they started small businesses, they are serving in our military. Theyre working in fortune companies. The more stories are known, the more theyll know passing the dream act is the right thing to do. The president was torn thats the word we see in backstage reporting at the white house and he seems to have satisfied no one. The dreamers who hes given kind of a sixmonth window to hope for a new legislative solution cant be satisfied. Theres a real threat to them and what happened today. And then the hard core Trump Supporters who want to see bus loads of the kids deported immediately can take no satisfaction in what happened. It seems like the president couldnt find his way out of the political corner he painted himself into. Well, listen. From the beginning i think the president has been clear about where he is on this, and other issues related to immigration. I serve on many committees in the senate including Homeland Security committee, and we reviewed the president s nominee to be secretary of dhs who now the chief of staff, john kelly. I asked him in an open hearing would he promise to keep would he commit to keep Americas Promise to these kids and not share their personal information with i. C. E. He refused to make that commit. This was many months ago. So im not surprised that were in this situation. But i do believe that my colleagues in the United States senate can do the right thing. I believe there is a will to do the right thing. But in terms of the demonization of these young people, these dreamers, theres so much that is just misrepresentation of fact. Just really just outright untruths. For example, lawrence, it is well documented that if we get rid of daca and do not pass a daca at a stat choir, that we will lose 700,000 jobs in the United States. It is well documented that over the next ten years if we rescind daca without replacing it, we will lose 60 billion in tax dollars. So there is real economic benefit to allowing these young people who have only known this is their home to be able to work, to be able to contribute to our economy, and to be able to contribute to our society. The president seems to have
the opposite view of how it affects jobs. He said today in his Written Statement, we must also have heart and compassion for unemployed struggling, and forgotten americans. That is a false choice. There is no question that we need to take care of hardworking americans who want to work, many of whom lost their jobs during the great recession, and they need a pathway to finding meaningful employment. And we can do a much better job of helping them do that, and we can help these young people who are called dreamers who are also contributing to the economy. Its a false choice to say its one over the other, and its irresponsible to suggest to Hard Working Americans that the only thing preventing them from getting a job are dreamers. What needs to happen is we need to do a much better job to actually get employment and paths to employment for americans who want to work. Senator, it seems Attorney GeneralJeff Sessions has a different definition of compassion than you do. Lets listen to what he said today. Okay. The compassionate thing to do is in the lawlessness, enforce our laws, and if congress chooses to make changes to the la laws, to do so through the process by our founders in a way that advances the interest of the American People. Thats what Jeff Sessions says is the compassionate thing to do. Again, weve got to stop vilifying this population, and as a leader, you got to stop pulling out the boogie man. These young people, lets be clear, they qualify for daca because they cleared a vetting where there was a very, very intense process of looking into their backgrounds. Lets everybody be clear about who these daca kids are. In order for them to qualify for daca, they had to answer a lot of questions, and there was basically an investigative process that took place to determine the circumstances of their arrival, to determine are they living a lawful life . Have they ever committed a crime . Are they productive . And only when they cleared that vet did they receive daca status. So yes, we want to make sure. We dont want people who are committing crimes in our country to be here if theyre undocumented. But we also have to understand that when were talking about these kids who are in daca, they have cleared a vetting process. For the Attorney General to suggest that they are other than lawful in terms of a particular committing crimes is just its irresponsible. Senator harris, i want to get a minute on your position on the Senate Intelligence committee, a
position that is more important than ever with the investigation of the russia connections to donald trump and the Trump Campaign. There are some issues arising about cooperation with the mueller investigation. Mueller would like a transcript of an interview the Intelligence Community staff had with paul manafort. And there are some other questions of cooperation. Do you believe that you should be sharing that information . Are you in favor of sharing that information with the Special Prosecuter . First of all, i have a great deal of respect for robert mueller, and also im a big advocate for him having independence and being able to do his work without any interference from the administration or anybody else. In terms of the coordination, if you will, between the various investigations including the investigation thats being conducted by the committee on which i serve, the Senate Intelligence committee, there is coordination that happens. There is a process for
deconfliction, and i believe that the process is moving along in accordance with an understanding that each investigation has its own purpose and that we should encourage each investigation to pursue the facts where they lead them. And senator, finally a health care question. You have become the first cosponsor on Bernie Sanders medicare for all single payer bill. People took notice of that everywhere including in local media in california that cover you. And one of the reasons theres a lot of interest is that Bernie Sanders was very successful as a president ial candidate in pulling in certainly on the left side of the democratic party, people begin to wonder with that move joining Bernie Sanders bill, does that mean you might follow in Bernie Sanders steps as a president ial candidate . The reason im supporting medicare for all is pretty basic, which is that its i
believe the moral and ethical right thing to do, and to do otherwise means to have a system where were just not being smart, where we are not maximizing our ability to make sure that every american, every person has access to health care. Lets just look at the Public Health model that tells us well, you want to deal with epidemics, the best way is prevention first. Emergency room, its too late and too expensive. Medicare for all as a goal, well be able to ensure that americans are having access to health care from the day they are born throughout their lives. And thats just smart for us as taxpayers. Well, i guess youll just continue to think about what you might do in 2020 and we can talk about it the next time. Lawrence, i dont even know what im having for dinner. Okay. Senator, thank you very much for joining us tonight. I appreciate it. Youre welcome. Take care. Thank you. Coming up, we have breaking news tonight about the trump russia investigation and
why republicans on the House Intelligence Committee are frustrated by the trump Justice Department, and later, an important new book tells the story of how donald trump became the president of fantasy land. Marcopolo marco. polo marco. polo marco. polo marco. si . Polo marco. polo scusa . Ma io sono marco polo, ma. Marco. playing marco polo with marco polo . Surprising. Ragazzini, io sono marco polo. Si, sono qui. Whats not surprising . How much money amanda and keith saved by switching to geico. Ahhh. Polo. Marco. polo fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more. I have a great heart for the folks were talking about. A great love for them. And people think in terms of children, but theyre really young adults. I have a love for these people, and hopefully now congress will be able to help them and do it properly. I can tell you in speaking to members of congress, they want to be able to do something and do it right, and really, we have no choice. We have to be able to do something, and i think its going to work out very well, and long term, its going to be the right solution. Joining us now, the president and ceo of latino, and also with us franco odoniez. Maria, the president repeatedly refers to his love, thats his word, his love for the dreamers. He had a strange way of showing
it today. Well, this love is abusive. Hes literally playing into the hands and into the mental state of 800,000 young people who thought they had done right by the law by coming forward and tried to play by the rules the u. S. Government set forth for them. This is if anything, a bit cynical for him to be talking about the fact that he loves them, when, in fact, hes Wreaking Havoc on him. The tweet he sent out minutes before the show saying he will revisit it if congress doesnt act. Thats unfair. We need clarity on what should be done next. The d. R. E. A. M. Ers i know are standing up. We need the American People saying this is not who we are. Franco, when congress has an arbitrarily arrived at deadline like the president saying ill give you six months, the first thing you can expect of the deadline is that it will be moved. That is the most likely thing to happen to a deadline that has no real imperative to it. And the president ial tweet tonight indicates that may very well be the next thing that happens just to repeat that tweet, he said congress now has six months to legalize daca. Something the Obama Administration was unable to do. If they cant, i will revisit the issue. And so franco, there he is on the day he makes what is supposed to be the big decision, saying six months from now ill revisit it. Yeah. After a day of criticism, its interesting that immediately he is already kind of flirting with the idea of helping the d. R. E. A. M. Ers again. Its the reality is that this congress, its going to be very difficult to pass any significant type of legislation involving immigration. Including the d. R. E. A. M. Ers. A droo. R. E. A. M. Er act of any ki. Hes talking about a comprehensive bill. He was talking today in the White House Briefing that he wants a comprehensive measure and even floated the idea of
possibly exchanging a d. R. E. A. M. Act for border funding. To get it in six months is a high bar. But the white house would not say today that given that ambition of wanting a big bill that might include d. R. E. A. M. Ers and funding for a border wall, the obvious question is okay, but would the president sign a bill that was just for the d. R. E. A. M. Ers. There was no answer from the white house on this. Lets listen to what senator graham said today about his challenge to republicans. My challenge to the president is that youve talked glowingly about these kids. Help us. Help us in the house. Help us in the senate. I think youre a good man. Get involved personally. Work the phones. Try to find a consensus here. Maria, we just heard the senator harris who was partnering with Lindsey Graham saying she believes the senate
can get this done. Well, and they did the first time around under the Obama Administration. They came out and had a comprehensive bill that went into the house, and that is the problem. The congressional members are held hostage by a very extreme right of the party that basically does not want any sort of immigration reform, and lets be clear, the idea that the president sent this back to congress, fronted it, ended daca saying he wanted to be right on the on the right side of the law is just less than a week after he pardoned a sheriff that was basically breaking the law. So its not that he wants he wants it both ways, but its clear that its become very much a White Nationalist agenda he wants to push forward. It was said by Jeff Sessions today at the bully pulpit of the Department Of Justice was speaking out of both sides of his mouth. He wasnt leveling with the American People. He was trying to convolute issues of a Refugee Problem ant border with the idea they were
taking away american jobs. Thats not the case. Hes trying to Pit Americans against the d. R. E. A. M. Ers in a way thats not fair and not just. Franco, senator graham said he thinks the senate can get it done. He essentially deals with senator harris on that. He said the problem will be in the house. The theres going to be a problem with this legislatively, it will be in the house. Indeed. This is the house youre going to have the stronger, harder, more Conservative Body in congress. But this is a huge, huge threat to the gop, and the gop knows that. Thats why paul ryan had come out and asked trump not to do this. Lets remember that as these daca status expire in march, Midterm Campaigning is really going to be heating up. And youre going to have hundreds of daca kids are going to be losing their work status,
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by hostile power to enteer fear in this election is why the fbi is investigating donald trump and russia. Not because of the allegations tray gowdy is trying to deflect to. And david, why the fbi started the investigation is always going to be less important than what the fbi found in the end of their investigation. And did they find evidence of any crimes . Well, i think understanding this story maybe theres a step back. Remember in the first weeks of the Administration Kellyanne Conway spoke of alternative facts that could present an alternative to the embarrassing actual facts . The white House Intelligence Committee has this is the third of the alternative scandals its tried to make people excited about. Its a way of diverting attention from the actual scandal. The first was the allegation that Obama Wiretapped trump in trump tower, the second was that susan rice and others improperly
unmasked the identities of Trump Campaign team people were talking to the russians. This is the third. Both of the two previous socalled scandals quickly fell apart. The alternative scandal did not adhere. As ron says, this is an attempt to say that the important story here is where did this dossier come from . Did it inspire the fbi . As ron says, it didnt inspire the fbi, and secondly, the interesting story about the dossier, its not how did we find out about it. But to what extent is it true . Thats the conversation that this House Committee does not want to have. Once devin nunez stepped down they were supposed to act in better faith. Theyre not. We know one way the fbi got the dossier. Senator john mccain says that he gave it to them when he came upon it. What were they supposed to do j just push it back toward senator mccain . Of course not, and of course
they had to look into it. And they had to look into other things that are undisputed that happened in the campaign. This is an ongoing effort by the republicans on the House Intelligence Committee not to do their jobs, not to look into a National Security threat to the United States. Not to look into an effort to undermine the core of our democracy, our electoral system. Instead to create cover and diversion for donald trump. And as david said, they did it twice before, both those failed. This is another effort to get a scandal. Im sure well see alex jones out this and overs saying the real scandal here is that the fbi somehow created this dossier. The real scandal here is that the Trump Campaign and the russians may well have colluded to win this election, and thats what everyone should be focussed on. Something needs to be said about this dossier. Most the people who came in contact with us, and all of us on the air dont have a lot of confidence in it. This is the dossier that alleged sex acts that donald trump witnessed. I think a lot of people have had a bad feeling act this dossier from the start, and when you look carefully at how it originated, it does look like scrounging for gossip in moscow bars if not actually thirdhand russian disinformation. This dossier is not the reason that anybody is concerned about what the russians did in this election. Ron, i want to go to your old committee, the Senate Judiciary committee where you used to work. On thursday donald trump junior is now scheduled to discuss this investigation. Thats according to three democratic members of the committee. Apparently that discussion is going to be with the senators, with the members of the committee, not just the staff. Yeah. That is a step forward. Look, i think that the Senate Judiciary committee has had some interesting progress on this. And remember, senator grassly promised to the recess to
release key transcripts of some of the interviews. Hopefully the senate is back and labor day has come and gone and hopefully well start to get the information out of the Judiciary Committee and get a vote and see what more they can find out about the real scandal here. Ron and david, thank you for joining us tonight. Thank you. Coming up, the trump Justice Department has officially said that the trump tweet about president obama wiretapping trump tower is not true. But it was the kind of fantasy that many people in fantasyland believe, and thats why donald trump became the president of fantasy land. Thats next. What you say it is. That is the case made by Curt Anderson in his brilliant book fantasyland about how america wenthaywire. That history tells us exactly how we got a President Trump. It tells us marco rubio can stand on the stage against donald trump and call him a fraud and a con man and be right about that, and still lose to donald trump in the republican primaries. In my own analysis on this program of how we got a President Trump, i looked at first the news medias treatment of the Trump Campaign, especially cable tv news, and then i looked back at sarah palins Vice President ial campaign where public ignorance was something republicans defended, and then i looked at Entertainment Television putting trump on tv as a reality tv
star, and the embrace of reality tv. I kept looking back through time at our politics and our culture including our entertainment and our Sports Figures and found myself looking as far back as 1963 for the seeds that were being planted all inned a ver tantly. Some of them by liberals that led to an american president named donald trump, a con man who after he was elected president had to pay 25 million to the students he conned at trump university. I saw only as far back as 1963, because i could not see what Curt Anderson could see, and what he delivers to us in this invaluable book that im going to hold up again. This stands as the single most important explanation, and the fullest explanation of how donald trump became president of
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got the nomination and became president. I Wasnt Reverse Engineering it, i had this big theory and donald trump came along and embodied it. And your book would be valid, even if donald trump had come in second for the presidency, if the Electoral College had just tilted the other way. Its astonishing enough that he would get the nomination of a major party. You write, america was created by people resistant to Reality Checks and convinced they had special access to the truth, a place founded to enact grand fantasies. And the Trump Presidency now stands as one of the grandest fantasies of all. Right. Of course, we had a few hundred years where that Fantastical Impulse was kept in check by say the jeffersons and franklins of the world, and the elites and the establishment over hundreds of years, until it kind of got Out Of Control in the last few
decades and donald trump my point is that donald trump didnt cause anything. He saw an opportunity, because hes a con man and a grifter. He saw what happened or insti t instinctually felt it. And empirical truth Doesnt Matter anymore. Lets go back to your notion that this country was founded on fantasy. You dont mean the people we call the founders. Theyre among the most rational and sophisticated intellects of their day. True. Youre talking about these adventurerers that came here, literally believing by getting off the boat in virginia, they would immediately find gold just by looking at their feet. And most people, if that happened, they would spend six months walking around, a year, maybe two and give up. They kept coming, they kept dying. They kept coming. 20 years later, finally they decided well, guess theres no
gold here. These were people, yes, these adventurers, these people who gave up life as they knew it, their families, civilized the world and came to this empty place because they thought they could find gold. Those were people in the south opposed to the Christian Theo cats in the north. And the people who came in the north, the socalled pilgrims that were puritans, what they were seeking is what they called religious freedom, which meant Freedom Of Thought and ultimately enshrined in the first amendment, freedom of speech. That ultimately, in your telling, becomes a freedom to think and believe anything. Correct. At first, it meant after they were forced by the English Parliament to tolerate people other than themselves and not hang catholics who happened along, then we developed this Freedom Of Religion where basically as long as you believed in some version of
probably a Christian God it was okay. Then we got to the constitution and we go to the founders. And along with the it was the other side of the enlightenment. The enlightenment we think of the thing that allowed reason and skepticism of faith and of truths that people declared to be challenged. It also allowed anything and everything to be believed, which it should be and must be legally. But were not talking about legal Freedom Of Thought, were talking about freedom to believe any crazy thing you wish because you feel the truth. And no expert is going to tell me otherwise. And in modern times, which is to say our times that we live through, you see the 1960s as the big explosion of believe whatever you want. On the left, on the right, everywhere. And, again, this isnt, as you know, just about politics. But what happened in the 60s
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