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World . Now we know that is what the president of mexico did today. So what did donald trump do . Did he say youre fired to the president of mexico today, no. Donald trump surrendered and instead of the president of mexico paying for that wall, donald trump turned around an said the american taxpayers are going to pay for that wall. Mexico won. The president of mexico cancelling his meeting with President Trump. The president of mexico said it was all his idea. Unless mexico is going to treat the United States fairly, such a meeting would be fruitless. You lost and you will keep losing, because mexicos right. They are we are going to build the wall, whose going to pay for it. We are going to pay for it. Donald trump is changing the republican party. Mitch, dont worry about it. Its almost like sort of the stockholm syndrome. They are caught. They dont know what to do. Tax at 50 , 50 billion at 20 of imports, 10 million a year and easily pay for the wall. It could easily start a trade war. Its stupid. No better word than stupid. So good luck. So are you tired of winning yet . Or are you tired of seeing america humiliated . People voted for donald trump for many reasons, both positive an negative. Negative reasons include hatred of Hillary Clinton, bill clinton, michelle obama, barack obama, hatred hatred of democrat general. The belief that donald trump would improve the economy, and central to that belief is Donald Trumps claim he is a great negotiator. The worlds greatest negotiator an he would negotiate new International Trade deals with Foreign Countries that would give the United States huge new advantages over every other country that it trades with. We would have a newly powerful American Economy created by the great negotiator beating every other negotiator in the world and according to donald trump getting a better deal than previous negotiators would be easy. Everybody wants me to negotiate. Thats what im known as is a negotiator. We need great pele negotiating our deals for us. We have the greatest negotiators and the greatest Business People in the world, and we use political hacks to negotiate our deals, not anymore were not. Not anymore. And today, we saw the complete humiliation of donald trump the negotiator by the very first foreign leader he wants to negotiate with, the president of mexico. Yesterday president pena said he was considering not attending next weeks meeting with President Trump as long as President Trump was insisting that mexico pay for the trump wall. That was shocking enough for any exchange between the president s of mexico and the United States, prior to Inauguration Day 2017, but then the most relentlessly shocking person ever to live in the white house used twitter this morning, not to go around the news media, which is his claim why he needs to use twitter. No, this morning the president of the United States used twitter to go around his own diplomatic channels and he said this if mexico is unwilling to pay for the badly needed wall, than it would be better to cancel the upcoming meeting. The president of the United States used to be the most powerful head of state in the world. If the president of the United States privately, through diplomatic channels threatened to cancel a meeting with another head of state, simply based on the agenda for discussion, than the other head of state would almost certainly discuss the item that the president of the United States wants to discuss. It wouldnt mean the foreign president would have to agree to it, just discuss it. A couple of hours after the trump tweet this morning the president of mexico tweeted this this morning we have informed the white house that i will not attend the meeting scheduled for next tuesday with the president of the United States. So the greater negotiator in the world lost in his negotiation with the president of mexico before even having their first meeting. That is the single worst negotiation outcome any president of the United States has ever had with any foreign leader willing to talk to the president of the United States. Notice, that the president of mexico, in protocol terms certainly, insulted the president of the United States by making the announcement publicly that it was his personal decision alone to cancel the meeting with the president of the United States. If it had been a mutual decision, there would have been a joint Statement Issued not on twitter but in standard diplomatic press release style. So in the negotiations to force mexico to pay for all so far this president nieto president , and President Trump zero. Go back to that stunningly inappropriate antidiplomatic tweet that donald trump sent out this morning. He said if mexico is unwilling to pay for the badly needed wall it would be better to cancel the upcoming meeting. It turns out the great negotiator has absolutely no idea what to say if the other side simply says no. The great negotiator is so lost if the other side says no he has no idea. No idea what to say next. Now great negotiators dont cancel negotiation meetings. They make negotiation meetings happen and they get results that no one else can get in negotiation meetings because they are great negotiators. In Donald Trumps first negotiation with the president of a foreign country, he was completely shut down by that president. How good of a negotiator are you if you cant even get the other side to show up at the negotiation . This is an international humiliation of the first order for the president of the United States. He said mexico would pay for the wall and he alone could get mexico to pay for the wall. So if mexico paying for the wall was key to your vote for donald trump, you voted for a lie. We told you this, in this hour, time and time again. Mexico would never pay for the wall. Mexico told you mexico would never pay for the wall. Because in past president s of mexico told you they would never pay for the wall and they were telling you the truth. And so, really now, in the permanent state of shock that team trump seems to be in tefr every day in the white house, sean spicer says we will get mexico to pay for the wall by putting a 20 tax on goods imported in the United States from mexico i guess they dont want to use the word tariff because it might be clearer to you that you the American Consumer will be paying that tariff, not mexico. When you tax mexican goods sold until the United States, you are taxing the people of the United States. Thats whos buying mexican goods in the United States and whos paying that tax. Thats not mexico paying for the wall. Thats the taxpayers of the United States paying for the wall. The people who donald trump promised would never have to pay for the wall. As soon as sean spicer said thatty sent out a tweet saying that was an admission that mexico wont pay a penny for the wall, and then with the white house being bombarded with tweets leak what that and questions like that about forcing americans to pay for the wall with a 20 tax on mexican goods, someone at the white house suddenly realized how profoundly stupid that is, as well as profoundly dangerous since it would be the first shot fired in a trade war that could go worldwide. A shot that could reverberate around the world and affect many other countries and quickly start a north american recession, followed by a worldwide recession. So the white house packed off the idea. Nbcs Peter Alexander caught up with President Trump in the white house for a moment and had this exchange with him. Peter alexander said since there was confusion about the 20 , do you want to clarify. Donald trump said what 20 is that . Peter, the 20 about mexican import tax. We will tax people coming in. We cannot lose our companies to mexico or any other place and have them make the product and just set send it across the border free. Were going to have to put a substantial tax. None of this is going to happen. None of it. Congress is not going to legislate is a 20 tariff on mexico. This president has no idea how to negotiate with another country making tantrumlike noises that have no meaning. Our best hope for the world understanding of this new version of the american presidency is that heads of state and stock markets around the world grant this president no credibility in moments like this. We can only hope that the world gets used to not believing donald trump. Saying horribly destructive things he says he will do. We neethe world to get used donald trump reversing himself on his craziest and cruellest ideas. He has said many times that the dreamers have to go, the kids brought in to this country without documentation when they were toddlers, infants before they could walk, grew up here, went to college and schools and consider themselves american. Donald trump said they must be deported, must leave the country. And then last night he said this the children who were brought here, as you know, by their parents, should they be worried they could be deported . Is there anything you can say to assure them right now they will be allowed to stay . They shouldnt be worried. They are here illegally. They shouldnt be worried. I have a big heart. We will take care of everything. They shouldnt be very worried. After two years of terrorizing those kids and their families donald trump says they shouldnt be very worried. I doubt the words of donald trump have made a single dreamer here in the United States any less worried tonight than last night. But president nieto is not worried about mexico paying for the wall and theres nothing the self proclaimed greater negotiator in the world can do or say to force, coax, negotiate the president of mexico in to paying for that wall. So tonight, the world has seen the president of mexico stand up to the president of the United States and just say no. An absolute no. And they saw that Donald Trumps rely to that was nothing. Great negotiator couldnt think of a single word to say back to the president of mexicos defiant no. The whole world was watching. The whole world learned something about the great negotiator today. Tonight, nbcews has learned from a Trump Administration source that he will speak to Vladimir Putin this weekend. In the new trump world order, the president of our peaceful ally across our southern border is regarded more like an enemy by the president of the United States than the president of russia. Vladimir putin is a crude, cruel dictator whos not very smart, as modern statesmen go but smarter than donald trump in every way that matters for a president. And we have every reason to fear what might happen in that phone call because Vladimir Putin is a much, much better negotiator than donald trump. But then, who isnt . Joy reid and david will join us after the break. Runs on intel . That ride share . You actually rode here on the cloud. Did not feel like a cloud. That driverless car . I have seen it all. Intels driving. The future traffic lights, street lamps. Business runs on the cloud. And the cloud runs on intel. I wonder what the other 2 runs on. car horn ugh. Heartburn. Sorry maam. No burning here. Try alkaseltzer heartburn relief gummies. They dont taste chalky and work fast. Mmmm. 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Dont anyone tell donald trump this, but the guy who introduced him today, there he is, mitch mcconnell, he produced donald trump, he actually voted for nafta. Joy reid, coauthor of we are the change we seek, the speeches of barack obama and david crump,er is editor for the atlantic. Im not sure if you are prepared to speak at all because i know steve bannon told you to shut up. Thats true. He did it as a general thing. He said the media should be embarrassed and humiliated and keep its mouth shut and listen for a while. When a White Nationalist tells you to shut up and who knows humiliation better than someone who cudles up to the frog nazi movement. I guess he would understand about embarrassment. I am embarrassed he is steps away from the president of the United States. That someone of his character is in the white house advising an american president. Im quite embarrassed about that. So much ground to cover tonight. Feel free to make any point you like. One thing that interested me a lot is how the world is watching what happened today when the president of mexico said no to the president of the United States. Think world learned that donald trump does not have somether card up his sleeve when he is threatening like he has been threatening mexico all year. The world and perhaps world stock markets might be in the process of learning that donald trump at least half of the time or some percentage of the time does not mean what he says. Therefore, stay agile about how you react to this guy. We are all along for the ride. Donald trump has some consistencies and his rule based world trade order thats been built since the end of world war ii and when he cancelled u. S. Participation in the transpacific trade partnership, it was to govern rules of trade across the pacific. That was the biggest china containment project in the history. Tpp excluded china. They said we are going to write a constitution for trade and china can sign up later if it wants but it is written by us. It is when they were protectionist. United states and canada negotiated the deal. I was living in canada at the time of the deal. Having written that charter turned to mexico and said would you like to join and become a normal country again. It wasnt normal before and now the fourth largest supply of oil in the United States and thats one of the commodities on which the 20 tax would fall. How to make life more expensive in america by imposing tariffs that i dont believe that congress will vote for number one and the trump doesnt realize that. What he is saying to you, i want to raise taxes on you through tariffs which are taxes. And make everything more expensive. There are so many ironies wrapped up in his stance toward mexico. He gave donald trump a pop quiz and asked which are the two or three largest trading partners with the United States, i bet he couldnt guess that canada and mexico, im not sure which is one or two but mexico has been our second or Third Largest trading partner since david mentioned they signed nafta. We were leading manufacturing jobs that is happening because of cheap labor over seas. They could guy our goods. We are their largest trading partner. When dakotas, kentucky, texas which would be the biggest loser if mexico were to unilaterally withdrawal from nafta, which they are talking about doing and signing bilateral trade deals of their own say, with china. They can get to the Transpacific Partnership or what replaces it. Heres the thing, if you hurt the mexican middle class, first thing that happens is you get re nonillegal migration to the United States. Thats one thing that nafta reduced. If you hurt manufacturing in mexico, you hurt businesses on our side of the border that sell to mexico and buy parts from mexico. If you have a car manufactured in michigan and some of the parts are made in mexico, the car is more expensive if you slap a tariff on it. Not more to mexican buyers but american buyersful everything you buy in walmart or the store, these tariffs cost American Consumers. I think the people who voted for trump believed he could bring back jobs are wrong. They are going to hire robots to do your job because it can be cheaper than mexico. It is robots that are threatening your jobs, americans, not mexican workers. A much more profound effect on the American Work place. Just ask any bank teller. The president s behavior on this International Stage with mexico and the notion that he dealt with this through tweets instead of the normal process of, you know, back channel diplomatic communication where the president of mexicwould have said were not going to discuss, you know, paying for the wall and the president of the United States would say lets put it on as an agenda item. Obviously dont have to agree to at this time. They would have been able to find a way to have a meeting with communication going in the normal processes. Im a longstanding bipartisan defender of the most reviled institution in american politics the teleprompter. A president s words are extremely important. Theres no difference in a president s words and his actions. Every word has to be measured. Thats why president s speak from notes and text. Not because they cant talk. Barack obama and president bush could talk. But they have a support system around the president to ensure the president says none of the wrong things. One stray word, i worked for president bush and he said the word crusade when he didnt mean to have. He didnt think at that second how would that resonate in the middle east where he was talking. It had he paid the price for it for years. One slip in one moment. Never repeated. The president s words are actions. So the idea the president is waking up at 6 00 in the morning with no Staff Support misspelling words in to his iphone, why . Why does he make all of these mistakes . The whole world around him ready to give him Accurate Information if only he would ask and listen. One thing that i would think would be fun about being president is you want the answer to a question, you got the worlds nobel Prize Winners to give you the answer. Joy, what the world is seeing here is that itall bluff. Its all just thats a big problem. President s need credibility worldwide. Yep. What they are seeing now so far with this president , he doesnt have credibility with his own staff in the white house that lasts through a full day. They are watching these domestic stories and things that get flipped every day. They are reading the stories, these leaks out of the white house staff to the New York Times just about how ir rational the president s behavior is and what its like dealing with him and they are looking at our polls. New quinnipiac poll, the most disapproved president in the history of polk, donald trump has 36 Approval Rating in quinnipiac, only 36 . The world sees those polls. The president of mexico knows that information when he stands up and says no and they know american president s strengths are lenged to their polls. They get undermined on a daily basis. When they go out to clean up the messes that donald trump creates on twitter and i will correct one thing, i think he uses an android. But they have to try to clean up these insane tweets hes doing at 3 00 in the morning and he undermines them by ordering them to double back on what he said. I will say one thing going back to our friend mr. Bannon and the theory he has been pushing that donald trump bought in to, this great power theory. It supposes we no longer use multinational agreements that each nation state negotiates bilaterally country by country. That supposes that you are president , if you are in that country, is the best negotiator and they will always get the better of the people you are negotiating. President nieto has extremely low poll numbers. His people think he needs to make mexico great again. He needs to man up to donald trump when he is essentially being humiliated by the president of the United States. Does donald trump think he will not respond or act in his own interest or that he will hand over billions of dollars. Is he a better negotiator than Vladimir Putin . I doubt it but we will find out. Donald trump has put his entire stock in his presidency in his ability to do what he said he did in a book he didnt write. He didnt write the book that he basis his reputation for great negotiaing skills on. Tony schwartz wrote it. Maybe he ought to negotiate our bilateral trade deals. Nor did he think up the concept of pretending to fire people on nbc. That is somebody elses idea. The president can be the biggest doofus in the world. The United States is a negotiator because its the strongest country and thats why the United States, generously set up a rulebased system instead of relying on power. Thats how you get buy in from everybody else. Who understands if it is face to face confrontation the United States wins. The way to combine it is say the United States is the strongest country will be the first bound by rules of trade. Just a closing note, every trade agreement we have entered in to took years to negotiate and the notion we will negotiate a oneonone trade deal with the United Kingdom is utter fantasy. The first trump president ial term, possibly the only trump president ial term will end without any agreements being concluded because thats how long they take. Thats for another night. Thank you for joining us. Coming up, what could donald trump offer Vladimir Putin when they talk this weekend . Its one of the frightening things we have to contemplate. Asmy family tree,ing i discovered a woman named marianne gaspard. It was her french name. Then she came to louisiana as a slave. I became curious where in africa she was from. So i took the ancestry dna test to find out more about my african roots. The ancestry dna results were really specific. They told me all of these places in west africa. I feel really proud of my lineage, and i feel really proud of my ancestry. Ancestry has many paths to discovering your story, get started for free at ancestry. Com so tonight the world awaits the first president ial phone call between donald trump and Vladimir Putin, which the white house tells us is scheduled for this wkend. We know now how the call will begin. The first few minutes will be about how donald trump could have won more votes than Hillary Clinton if he had bought in to the campaign in california and new york. He wont mention to Vladimir Putin that he lives in new york and he has been in effect campaigning in new york and new york city every day of his adult life and that he lost new york city. He lost manhattan. He lost his own precinct where he lives and votes. That was not because people in Donald Trumps precinct hadnt heard enough from donald trump or seen enough of donald trump. Its because they cant stand him. But i digress. The next subject in the phone call will be how Donald Trumps inauguration crowd was the largest gathered in history with the largest viewership. And Vladimir Putin is known for being the most skillful head of state at suppressing laughter but it will be the ultimate test of his laughter suppression technique. I dont know. I guess im making light of this phone call because its so much to be deeply fearful of and Donald Trumps public devotion to Vladimir Putin and a reporter, hearing trump world has a text of executive order floating around to ease russia sanctions. Nbc news has not confirmed that report. Joining us now is Wendy Sherman, former u. S. Under secretary of state for Political Affairs and ambassador sherman is a senior counselor at Albright Stonebridge group. Investor sherman, your reaction to the scheduled phone call with Vladimir Putin this weekend and what we might expect, what we might hope for and what we might fear. I think probably theres a lot to be feared, lawrence. Indeed as your whole program has talked about tonight, donald trump doesnt yet have really the instincts the fingertips, the sense of how you do a negotiation than a building. He has put out earlier on that maybe hed give up sanctions on russia if they would build down their nuclear arsenal. That is putin has said, the official spokes people have said thats laughable. We have so much at stake here. Not only are the u. S. And russia the Largest Nuclear weapon states and gorbachev has a piece in Time Magazine calling for a build down further of those Nuclear Weapons if that should be our focus but we have syria to discuss and importantly as Prime Minister may will say to donald trump tomorrow we have concerns about russia and its aggression in europe, obviously starting with ukraine and crimea, but also pushing against the baltics and really creating very aggressive moves in europe. So donald trump is up against a master. I have been in the presence of Vladimir Putin. Ive spent four hours with secretary kerry our ambassador to russia and putin in sochi. Hes smart. Hes crafty. Hes patient. He doesnt tweet. All of these executive orders we have been seeing are like expampbded tweet storms because they are not executed, implemented, not gone through legal or congressional test and havent been consulted with members of the Trump Administration. So i hope he gets prepared. I hope he gets briefed before this call and i hope he has some talking points that make some sense. The article that you mentioned in Time Magazine by my kale gorbachev, he wrote it looks as if the world is preparing for war. This is a stunning place to be in the 21st century. Indeed it is a stunning place to be. I think that we all need to be very serious about whats happening in the world. President obama certainly approached the world serious. Everyone may not agree with what he did but there was no question that he was not only dignified but serious, calm, thoughtful and used all of the resources. Today there was a report about Senior State Department people who were Foreign Service officers, career, nonpartisans, having resigned. Some people say they were fired, but they are gone. And when mr. Tillerson gets confirmed, if he gets confirmed and looks like he will in spite of the opposition to him, he will come with a hollowed out state department and state departments first responsibility is the protection of american citizens around the world. And there will be no one in Senior Leadership positions with any constitutional memory to do that. I just hope having asked all of the ambassadors to leave that President Trump will be listening to those experts that do remain in the state department before he has this call with Vladimir Putin. I want to get your reaction to the president continuing to talk about the notion of going in to iraq and possibly going back in to iraq and taking iraqs oil. Well, its one of the most extraordinary statements. There have been so many extraordinary statements. Not only is that illegal under international law, but it would be considered a war crime. We are not an imperialist country. We have put our troops around the world at risk because what he has basically said is we will come in and we will take away whatever we want. If that were the principal, than when Saddam Hussein went to kuwait city. He should have been able to keep kuwait city. We didnt think that should be the case. In the case of kuwait we went to war, we went to battle on the battlefield against Saddam Hussein for doing exactly what donald trump is advocating. Indeed. We have to get a break in here. Stay with us. When we come back, donald trump likes to talk about how many times hes been on the cover of Time Magazine. 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President obama has been on a couple more times, Hillary Clinton has, bill clinton has, others have but this week is the first time the resistance of donald trump is on the cover of Time Magazine, the week after the most massive inauguration protest in history in washington, d. C. And all 50 states and around the world. Time says there is no president in u. S. History for the show of collective outrage. The face of the democratic opposition, some call it the resistance is a face that as a private citizen trump likes to judge on a scale of one to and then and as a candidate measured by the worthiness of his sexual attention. Joining us next one of the reporters that contributed to that Time Magazine reporter and back with us, Wendy Sherman who participated in the march on sunday, as did her former boss secretary of state john kerry. She will give us her perspective on this movement. vo if you have type 2 diabetes, you may know what its like to deal with high. And low blood sugar. 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Charlotte, i had a pretty good idea i had a feeling this was going to be big and volunteered for saturday duty here when no one else was thinking it was going to be big. The reason i did is because i was hearing from people who have not marched since vietnam. Who were going to fly across the country for this, travel from other cities, great distances to get to d. C. Where you were. Is it obviously it went beyond what anybody anticipated, but you were there because you recognized Something Big was happening . Yeah. Absolutely. The Energy Around us was unlike anything i have seen but im not that old. It is unlike anything gloria stein ham had seen. I meat an 83yearold grandmother who a said she never participated in a deppen Administration Since since Martin Luther king jr. People who had never protested in their life, people who hasnt protested since the 60s. People who didnt think they were the type of person. Did you find yourself overwhelmed and under staffed to try to do this . We had a great team there. We had actually in last weeks issue profiled the four women who organized the march and then we had a team of photographers and reporters and video people down there. We were pretty well prepared. We knew it was going to be big. Wendy sherman, were you marching with john kerry, or who were you with . I was marching with my daughter, some of her friends, my husband and its sort of funny. It is great to hear charlotte talk about it. The night before my daughter was talking about it were making signs who were all moms themselves and i said i cant believe im protecting this bs and my daughter said thats going to be your sign. That was my sign. I had women coming up to me saying i have been carrying a sign for 40 years. What was wonderful about the march is it is all generations and a lot of millennial and genxors and like you, who love our country, our democracy and this was a democratic grounds up grassroots effort and it now has to return to the grassroots and a lot of hard work has to be done in local communities to move this Resistance Movement. Actually its a pro movement, to move this prowoman, pro inclusivity, prorights for all people in all economic groups and all racial and all gender groups together. When i was on fifth avenue a couple of times during the day i was able to get out there it felt like a positive expression that i was getting from people marching up fifth avenue. That this was an attempt bring a positive feeling in to a place that had felt to them so dark since elec day. Aolely. Its been really quite something. Everybody i talked to who was there and this is true in new york and the other marches as well have said how kind and generous people were. People were sandwiched in. You could barely move in washington. The same was true in new york and seattle and chicago and elsewhere. Nobody pushed, nobody shoved. There were people in wheelchairs. There were children, babies in carriages and being cared by their moms and dads and their grand moms and it was extraordinary sense of energy. I think people wanted that solidarity. They wanted to stand up. They wanted to be counted and its not going to stop. Charlotte has written about this Resistance Movement and how it is really catching on at the grassroots to get an important job done for our country. Charlotte, what do you expect next . Well, you know, these women arent going home. Its not like these are people who just came out once and it is one and done. This will be going as long as donald trump is in office. He is the boogie man that united all of the progressive causes. Theres argue s that he made that obama was in some ways not great for this coalition. There was a sense of safety and a sense of a lot of in fighting among different groups of what would be prioritized in the obama administration. Now everyone can agree that trump has to go. On the left theres a real consensus this is a number one priority for everybody. I think we will be looking at a lot of action on the local level. I know that they are trying to emulate tea Party Tactics and i think you will see a lot of people showing up to other protests, black lives matter protests, immigrant rights protests, muslim protests who werent there before. I think it will energize the movement. We all get to witness the history of our era, but Wendy Sherman, i have to say i couldnt have predicted that i would live to see the day when the secretary of state leaves his service on friday and then is out there protesting the policies of his successor government the next day. John kerry has made history in many ways starting with his service in vietnam and his protest against the vietnam war and he made history in his unique way again on saturday. Ambassador Wendy Sherman and charlotte alter, thank you for joining us. Really appreciate it. Thank you for having us. Coming up, the other places where there was a protest today. When my doctor told me i have agerelated macular degeneration, amd, he told me to look at this grid every day. And we came up with a plan to help reduce my risk of progression, including Preservision Areds 2. My doctor said Preservision Areds 2 has the exact nutrient formula the National Eye Institute recommends to help reduce the risk of progression of moderate to advanced amd after 15 years of clinical studies. Preservision areds 2. Because my eyes are everything. Like their photo claims tool. It helps settle your claim quickly, which saves time, which saves money. And when they save, you save. 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