Transcripts For MSNBCW The Last Word With Lawrence ODonnell

Transcripts For MSNBCW The Last Word With Lawrence ODonnell 20160715

Heres more of what he said earlier tonight. I decided that the state of emergency that was supposed to end on july 26th will be extended by three months. A bill will be presented o parliament by next week. He fired into the crowd as he drove that vehicle into the crowd was killed by police according to french officials. Both sources speaking to nbc news, ie paper were found in that truck. Investigators found arms and explosives in multiple reports. The bodies of those killed, the chaos of the attack caused those in the crowd running for their lives and some reportedly ran tout the beach and into the sea. Security council released a statement tonight on the attack of merit and cowardly. President obama released a statement. I condemn of a horrific terrorist attack in nice, france. We stand in solidarity as they respond to this attack. Joining me now is our correspondence, whats the latest in terms of whats unfollowiu unfolding right now as it turns from night to morning. We have to remember this is the third time that this attack like this had been targeting france civilians in the last year and a half. It is a point you made earlier. The fact that you know this is the third time that the president of forensic had to address the public and making the same kind of commitment doubling down on the fight of terror and deploying more soldiers to the border. And the really important point here as you mentioned is that he said hes going to extend this state of emergency for another three months. Whats interesting and what has not struck and has not been discussed all that much during the reporting throughout the evening, earlier in the day, president olon made another speech where he said he was going lifting that state of emergency in just two weeks and then of course everything changes hours later when this terror attack occurred. Hes going to keep it for another three months. Basically, this is a law that exte extends police power and allowing police allowing them to launch searches without warrants. Civil Rights Groups have been cam planing about this law. I imagine that a lot of french people are going to be as they are experiencing the dread and the regrets and the terror of this attack, theyre going to be casting a weary eye of this emergency and continuing to perpetuate out of fear of continuous attacks. Live for us in london. Thank you for that. Joining us now from the phone for our daily fix. I want to pick up the after math of the attack and two very important developments particularly in the speech that was made by the french president. Talk to us a little bit about the important point of that speech and talk to us about the extension of the emergency law that matt was talking to us about, something that many french people thought going to be whining down towards the end of july now has been extended another three months. What does that tell you both the emergency law extension and the air strikes in the wake of the attack. When it comes to the emergency law, i think that those people in france are not going to object to that. Obviously, it is a concern of people and we are looking at debates and issues. But, the truth is people want to be secure and i think it is a popular measure and nobody wants this kind of thing to happen. The question is going to come up again and again and even with this place, you have this attack and you have 80 or more people dead. How can you create a situation with a law that deals with people who are truly ready to die. Thats one question. Stepping up military strikes in syria against isis, is that going to make a difference . You know, it might. There were talks after november 13th attacks about really trying to raise the capitol lockdown and killing as miss people as it took to set isis back on its heels. The problem with that is as you well know is that thats what isis wants. Isis wants a war with the west. It gains stature by saying look, the west is coming after us and we are standing up for islam and we are the representatives. You have again it is going to have an impact or are we just going to fall in the game that i just want to play. Probably there is no choice at this point for the president got to take symbolic measures and he will take effective measure as possible let me ask you about the issue and again obviously, we are learning more of the individual who carried out this attack, french media is reporting and we are also learning that hes a French National decent and some of the initial reporting that we are getting and suggesting that he had a criminal background. What is this going to do in temple terms of how he deals with the Muslim Population. Are we going to hear the kind of rhetorics inside france as we are hearing in the United States where officials are saying lets have a law test to see if muslims are loyal to the United States as we heard earlier this evening by former speaker of the house Newt Gingrich. Thats on the wish list for the socalled islamic state. Their ideology says they can create the civil war of the west when it comes down to it. France had the largest Muslim Population in europe by far. Their motion is facing things like this and you will have a situation where there is real conflict and not just political hostility but physical hostility between muslim groups in this country and the population. The worse things get, the more you exacerbate the situation and the happier isis will be. Thats what they are aiming for. There is certainly competitions on ward wholl play into that game. Chris, stay with us, i want to bring in malcolm, our former Counter Terrorism intelligence and now our msnbc contributor, malcolm, emergency law are already in place, it is possuppd to expire january 26th. Both. Reporter helping their efforts and feeling secure and felt they were getting the upper hand on a wave of terrorist attack in that country. This is obviously a major setback. What is that tell you about a, the hacker and b, the resources of Counter Terrorism. No one should get comfortable in the environment they are operating in it and certainly in france, much less all over europe. Thats just one person carrying out an attack which is clear clearly adapted to the security environment of france. I was there two weeks ago, there was a lot of manpower on the streets. When you have a lot of manpower on the streets and you have people looking for explosive devices and small teams and as we saw the french attack in november. Thats ambiguous and thats everywhere by taking a truck. That truck, you did not know that person had a gun until he already done his two run in nice. They over come all of the security by going through a similar form of attack. Thats the fundamentals of terrorism, what that really shows us, lets talk about the attacker whether it is one man or thought this up himself or a group of people, it does not matter, you cannot get into that mind if they dont communicate this with anybody else. Unless there is some intelligent communicator of sources of guns or grenades, this could all take place inside a mind of a shooter like we saw in orlando. Christopher, let me bring you back to this discussion, we are paying a lot of attention to france thats once again attacked. We lose sight of the fact that this comes on the hills of deadly attack in istanbul and iraq and bangladesh, what does it tell you about the nature of these attacks. It may not be linked operationally but some what inspired by one another. I think what it tells us is that people who are doing this are creative especially. They use whatever means they can to achieve their goals and their central goals is to divisions. Hold on, one second topping the will and the moral of our country and creating the situation that we were talking about before. I think you can look back to 9 11 and see this pattern. Remember weapons were used were box colors that were used to turn airplanes of enormous weapons that took down the world trade center. You see that pattern again and again and the 9 11 report of greatest failure of the u. S. Government at the time was the failure of the imagination, they did not see terrorists doing this kind of thing. Thats the pattern that we see again and again. Chris, thank you very much for getting up early and staying up late with us here. Let me finish on this if i can. The rate of acceleration of attack globally. You know the fbi or london and you are looking at what is just happening in the last six weeks, the last three months, the last six months, how concerned are you at the rate of how this is happening and what can be done to slow the tide if you will . Well, the attacks are concerning but they are indicative of how much pressure isis is. There is a lot of talk about how damage isis is and whether the United States is having an impact or we hear people saying we do nothing. Callow fit is crumbling and under attack from all points. Theyre being attacked from the northwest and now we are on outside of mosul. We killed 80 of all of their senior leadership. Last year and a year and a half of a physical structure. If you place those pressure down on them, they dont bring in recruits from other countries. They tell us to stay home and we have this term, jihads in place. We need to be prepare for attacks and the type of attack that we saw in orlando which may or may not inspired isis attack but despite of the fact that the person claimed it at the end. If you are looking f explosives, you can track them. If you are looking for somebody who is traveling over seas and coming back to the United States, you can possibly track them. What if there is none of those intelligence indicators or fire bombs get triggered, what do you do . Well, to tell you the truth and this is a problem i had to deal with for the last ten months and certainly here in new york state where we had to push a lot of information down to the lowest levels of Law Enforcement, that point that christopher made earlier of a lack of imagination and a failure, you have to train imagination into Counter Terrorism officers and Law Enforcement officers. The first book i ever wrote was a 200 page book that was Global Intelligence concentrated for street policemen. After 9 11, the operations we were doing over seas and Counter Terrorism had come to the streets of the kwieunited state. You have to teach Law Enforcement. Tankers can be used rammed in the side of a pilot or bridge as a weapon systems. It requires guts and determination on the part of the terrorist. We need to understand that. If you see a truck thats breaching a security perimeter, first, you should look at barrier anyway. That vehicle, could that be somebody in the opposition doing a terrorist attack no matter how simple it looks. It could be a start of a complex attack thats using a simple system. All right, stay with us, we have much more still ahead, we are going to get back in just a second. We are in the middle of awar, a war against terrorists who want to hit us at any cause in a very extreme way. In a world held back by compromise, businesses need the agility to do one thing another. Only at t has the network, people, and partners to help companies be. Local global. 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We have 140 people sitting down and eating and drinking and enjoying themselves and suddenly we saw a huge, big van driving all over and it is incredible. Hef was driving fast and you can see people were shouting and crying and everybody was was suddenly we heard bullets and everything was very, very fast and suddenly, i would see hundreds of thousands of people running around and sort of a big mess. And people were on the floor and some people were crying and it was terrible. We didnt know what was going on. We realized it was a terrorism inside the van just trying to kill people. And jack, how long did this take place from the time you saw the truck moving towards people to the time you first heard the shots that might have been the shots that stopped the driver, how long was that . It was less than a minute. He was by the police about less than about a meter away from us. From all of us that was very, very fast, he was purposely trying to kill people of 1. 5 miles. We realized everything was happening. People all went down in the restroom and we tried to close the doors. And all that was very, very fast, less than a minute. We heard of 40 or 50 bullets and that was very quick. We are not even certain that guy was shooting on us. I just heard on the french news that some people was in the hospital with bullet holes. And jack, did you see any people actually hit by the truck . Did you see that happen . Oh yes. Oh yes. That was like a big bowling party. I saw people and children and mother going under that truck. He was very, very quick. It was after nightmare, yes, yes. We have blood everywhere and pieces of bodies everywhere. It was a nightmare, i am very sorry. The people in your restaurant could also see this. People were sitting on the terrance. All of that happening less than about we were less than three meters away. What were the sounds you heard . Did you hear people screaming or any reactions from the people . Screaming and running and it was a mess. I tried to tell everybody inside our place. We tried to take a look and rush as many people as we could making them safe. It was a mess. It was a real mess. People were on each other. Actually, the second trouble was people walking on each other. They panic. Jack, i want to go back to what you actually saw of the truck. You were seeing the truck coming towards your restaurant, right . You were seeing the front of the truck as it approach, right . Well, we did not realize when we saw the front. We realize when we saw the side running in front of us. Basically, i did not see the front of the truck. I saw the side of the truck because it was passing in front of us. That means basically, we saw the people. It was running people with him. And as the truck passed by, did you see the truck leaving bodies behind . Oh yes, dragging all the the bodies. The streets were very, very busy. It is like bourbon street. The street was packed. There was fire works and holiday here and the streets was very, very packed. How long did it take to get ambulances or help who were injured on the streets. It took about five minutes. Everything came very, very quickly because like you know, france, at the moment is on special emergency state. Everything was very quick. The policemen were very quick. Everything was very, very fast. That was jack of a nice Restaurant Owner talking to my colleague. Much more is still ahead, stay with us. The reason im telling you this is that there will be moments in your life that. Youll never be ready for. Your little girl getting married being one of them. If you have moderate to Severe Ulcerative Colitis or crohns, and your symptoms have left you with the same view, it may be time for a different perspective. If other treatments havent worked well enough, ask your doctor about entyvio, the only biologic developed and approved just for uc and crohns. 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Joining me now is long time nice resident, dana kennedy, thank you very much for unionijoining. A lot of people are familiar with france, and nice, talk to us about the community in nice and the composition of the city of what we are expecting this. There are two sides of nice, to go there and seeking that same region. The most beautiful stretches of the sea front in the world and about five blocks away is a tran that leads you to another nice. Muslims they are the two worlds and they never see each other the real nice is happening more. What see of the beautiful nice and the beaches and the iconic blue chairs, thats nice a hundred years ago. The heal nice is a couple of train stops away. How important or critical are they to the french government ability to tackle what is becoming an increasing concern for them. The security challenges posed particularly in the wave of several attacks and French Nationals and obviously, they must be looking at these communities and i am curious to know someone living there is creating a device in French Society that French Nationals are turning on each other and looking at each other. It is a hard and complicated situation. One hand you have the racism of the french who believes them to be going back and the third and fourth generation and children who have been there for many, many years. It is not an excuse but they dont treat them very well. France has a history of denouncing people. They did this during world war ii, they drop dimes on french and jews or should i say white forensi

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