Intended. They use their political connections. Theyre tries to discourage everyone from coming forward. You can go out for that. Thats right. He took on the unions and he survived. If youre not afraid to go big and go bold you can actually get results. Good to have you with us tonight, folks. Thanks for watching. We start this evening with a new threat at home. The terrorist Group Al Shabaab called for attacks on shopping malls in the United States and the u. K. They are responsible for the attack on a mall in nairobi, kenya. It left over 60 people dead. This weekends video mentions minnesotas mall of america. Secretary of Homeland Security jay johnson says the public needs to be vigilant. Im sure that security at this particular mall will be enhanced in ways visible and not visible, but it also involves public vigilance and public awareness. If you see something, Say Something. Youre not telling people not to go to the mall . Im not telling people to not go to the mall. I think there needs to be an awareness, there needs to be vigilance, and be careful, obviously. But we are in a few phase. What does that mean . At this time there has been no specific threat made in the United States. For more let me bring in john yang in minnesota tonight. Whats the latest . Reporter ed so far maybe its Terror Threat fatigue, but shoppers seem to be taking it in stride. Store managers say foot traffic has not decreased and people are still coming to the mall. One person we talked to earlier today is a family who came from kansas for a weekend of shopping. The father is an army veteran who was a guard at guantanamo. He thinks americans are tired of it all. I mean its something you keep in the back of your minds, but really its just a bunch of scared people in the middle east trying to cause something here. Didnt work. Reporter but Security Officials are not taking this lightly. They say they are doing things that can be seen increased foot patrols by police and mall security canine units patrolling the mall but also in ways that cant be seen. They are urging that vigilance that secretary jay johnson talked about. If you see something, Say Something in order to be prepared in case something does happen. Ed . Thanks so much. The video from al shabaab comes as congress is at a standoff over Homeland Security funding. Were just four days away from a partial government shutdown. Later in this hour, the senate is expected to vote on dhs funding. The bill is expected to fail after a democratic filibuster. Jay johnson said the Congress Needs to do their job. Overall, a shutdown of Homeland Security would have serious consequences and amount to a serious disruption in our ability to protect the homeland. To those in congress who may be contemplating punting or kicking the can a few weeks down the road i must remind you that the consequences to this department if we remain on a continuing resolution, are also severe. The bill is gridlocked because House Republicans attach attached immigration amendments. It stripped funding from president obamas executive orders to protect undocumented immigrants. As of today, the president S Immigration executive orders are being held up in a texas court anyway. If the department of Homeland Security shuts down the blame should go on republicans. 53 of americans blame republicans for all of this. 30 would blame the president and 13 would blame both. I might be a 13 percenter tonight. I agree with the texas judge that said the executive orders were illegal. I hope republicans will come together and back the court case, file a friend of the court brief with the court, and fund dhs. I am willing and ready to pass a dhs funding bill and let this play out in court. The worst possible outcome for this nation is to defund the department of Homeland Security given the multiple threats we face to our homeland and i will not be part of that. I will go along with that. Department of Homeland Security funding would end friday night at midnight. They wonder why we hate washington . The security of this country is now a political football. Few americans think the nations security should be guided by a political calculation of winners and losers. There will be no winners. Only losers if we have to bicker over the security of this country. Tonights question will you blame republicans if the department of Homeland Security shuts down . Text a for yes. Text b for no. Well brickng you the results later on in the show. You can get my podcast. Its available for free, 24 7. The security of the country, were even going to argue over there. I think the democrats have a little bit of blame here as well. Both sides are wrong. Just fund the security of the country and be done with it and let Everything Else play out in court. Let me bring in congressman Jim Mcdermott of washington and the editor at large for the atlantic. Congressman, what is a new phase here . How did you take that comment from jay johnson . Hes obviously speaking the truth. Here youve got 300,000 with the department of Homeland Security 200,000 are declared important enough to be they have to stay on the job, but theyre not going to get paid. Next friday next saturday or next monday theyre not going to get a paycheck. Youre putting people through a lot of agony. We know the republicans are going to cave in. Theres no question. Is this another defeat the president at all cost moments for the republicans to put immigration on the table to muddy the waters for defending the country . Even Lindsey Graham ed says that we ought to let the courts work it out and fund the agency and let it go on and do its job. Americans dont care whether it is republicans or democrats. They want to government to work. Yeah. What were seeing is were going to shut down fema. You have snow ten feet deep in massachusetts. It also affects the coast guard. Does this make us vulnerable if we dont get it funded . What does it mean for a security standpoint . We just had threats against the mall of america in minnesota. We have concern of sleeper cells in the United States. It would be nice ed if Rudy Giuliani would come on the show and question the patriotism of those gop leaders that are undermining the security of the nation and ask them if they really love the United States . I think Rudy Giuliani has diminished himself so much by this. What the media is missing is go back to september 10th 2011 and see how popular Rudy Giuliani was in this town before the attack. Well just leave that there. But the point i think hes making is well taken. Hes trying to disfocus the country on a number of fronts. The point is we have many people in congress that are willing to sort of walk away from a responsible stance about the security of the nation over a small ball issue thats being dealt with in the federal courts. Yeah. Its outrageous. When you talk about in this climate peoples love of the United States their degree of patriotism, i think that focus needs to fall directly on those people who are threatening to fund the dhs. President obama addressed the Economic Impact of the dhs shutdown today. Unless Congress Acts one week from now more than 100,000 dhs employees, Border Patrol tsa agents will show up to work without getting paid. They all work in your states. These are folks if they dont have a paycheck are not going to be able to spend that money in your states. It will have a direct impact on your economy and it will have a direct impact on Americas National security. The president speaking to the governors across the country. Theyre all the white house. He, of course, is having a conference with them. What does this do to state finances . Some governors might connect with people such as yourself. They would talk to their representatives in washington and say, hey, wake up on this deal. If you try to put yourself in the shoes of the people who are being impacted by this we had two coast guardsmen call us, a man and a wife who were both in the coast guard. Theyre not going to have enough money to pay their mortgage at the end of next month. These people are working to protect us all over the place and we say to them you are not worth it. Were not going to pay you. Were going to use you as a pawn in our fight with this president. That is not fair to the Government Employees that are going to be effected by this. It is going to effect money for states. People dont have salaries. They cant buy things. They dont pay sales tax. It runs right down the road. It is stupid. Theyre going to ultimately back down. Do you believe that steve . Do you think theyre going to back down . I dont know. When i hear people like john mccain and Lindsey Graham making so much since and john boehner saying, were going to shut it down, at some point he wont have creditability any longer unless he does pursue the shutdown. I think the white house is saying bring it on. We would love for you to carry the responsibility for putting these people out of work and endangering the security of the United States. Can we find an issue that we can isolate where the congress can do together . If we cant do it on the security of the country, what can we do it on . Isnt this the best example of dysfunction if it does shut down . It is so sad to me because i was a director of the nixon center years ago. I worked with a democratic senator in the senate. There was a time when people over a great number of issues would find the pragmatic middle. The problem that were seeing is not necessarily between democrats and republicans. It is between republicans and republicans. They have an intercaucus fight that is so profound and deep. It is so deadly and so devastating for the United States on not just this issue, but issue after issue after issue. This should play out in the courts as it is right now, so why would the democrats filibuster this . I think that what theyre dealing with is you cant get anything out of the house. You have 46 members in that Freedom Caucus who can stop john boehner from doing anything. Theres no reason to work on this issue if the house is not going to back down from this absolute shutdown. Let me use tpp as an example. There are a bunch of republicans in the house that are going to vote against fast track because they dont want to see the president have any authority at all. This probably has something to do with it too. Your thoughts on that . It hads been this for the last two and a half years. Dont let almost win anything. There will be no shutdowns in the congress. We have already had one. Now were headed for the second one. Great to have you with us gentlemen. Thanks so much. Thank you. You can get my podcast at wegoted. Com. Share your thoughts with us on tweeter at ed show. Like us on facebook. We appreciate that. The we got ed twitter account is history. Coming up, scott walkers street cred with conservatives has given him National Coverage in the gauntlet. Tonight we look at the legal battle for financial restitution. I think theyre running out of time on the clock. The Supreme Court finally denied their appeal in december of this past year which started a sixmonth clock running. 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Welcome back to the ed show. Scott walker is pretty rough around the edges when it comes to being a National Candidate early on. Some of his answers on Foreign Policy and faith are simply evasive and quite often strange, but hes americas number one union buster and that is the attraction. To get a sense of how dangerous walker is, look no further than his own state and the latest Union Numbers out of wisconsin. Of the 26 states that do not have right to work law states wisconsin has the biggest drop in Union Membership. Wisconsins Union Membership fell by 11,000 to 3,600 in 2013. It is a slight rebound from 2012 when it was 2,903 workers. Members made up 11. 7 of the work force in 2013. The year before Governor Walker took Office Overall wisconsin saw an 18 drop in membership between 2010 and 2014. The chart tells the truth. This all comes as a result of walkers passage of act 10 which limited collective bargaining rights for most Public Sector workers. On tuesday the Wisconsin State Senate is slated to take up a right to work bill after the bill was quietly released on friday afternoon. Like it or not, walker has establish accomplished what he set out to do. Walker might not be ready for prime primetime with the cameras, but hes entering the field with a level of street cred. In fact, he may be number one in the nation. Good for him, if thats what youre into. The fact of the matter is it is not a question about jobs in wisconsin or how the economy is because the Overall Mission for the conservative movement in this country is to deplete the Democratic Base and getting to the unions is what it is all about and thats what walker has been able to do. Lets go to ruth conniff and the president of the American Federation of teachers. Your union in wisconsin has lost membership since walker has come in. I know theres an effort to try to reinvigorate the membership. Whats the state of the nva in wisconsin . Thank you for having me on. When you talk to people all throughout the country, our members want unions. In fact our union, even with everything thats happened in wisconsin, has actually grown in the last two years because people want a voice, but they want a real voice. What happened is walker basically pulled the rug out from everybody. People were used to bargaining in wisconsin and he made it so hard that you saw a huge drop in membership. Thats exactly what he wanted. What were seeing is that people really want a voice, so that were starting to slowly gain ground again. His mission to reduce Union Membership, thats really what he wanted to do. Totally. Obviously, he has the legislature to help him on that. Remember ed as you so well covered, the unions in 2010 when he was first elected said were going to meet your demands about the budget and he said no. I just want you to not have a voice. So what happened is he took away everybodys voice and then he cut Public School aid and then he cut higher ed aid, then he cut pay equity. Basically what he wants is to not have a middle class in wisconsin wisconsin. The guy wins three elections in four years. He does exactly what he says hes going to do. Im trying to get Union Membership up. I believe in collective bargain bargaining, but whats the endgame here . I think the endgame is two fold. I think the reason scott walker is the coke brothers favorite candidate is because he has suppressed wages.