Traction today is that matt and sweat could have following old railroad beds from the prison right up through this area. But the man whose wife is charged with helping the killers said she said she was in over her head. He started to threaten with someone inside the facilities was going to do something to me to harm me or kill me or somebody outside the jail if she didnt stay with this. She said matt was giving her attention and stuff and she did not believe that i loved her anymore. She said it went too far. He tried to kiss her a couple times. She said no. And she said thats when he started to threaten her a little bit. Is it your and her contention that he manipulated her to the point where she did the things she did. I believe so. Do you support her . As of right now, i dont know what to think. Lyle mitchell has not been charged with anything and his lawyer says that he is cooperating fully with the investigation. Joyce mitchell has pled not guilty to supplying tools. She has not been charged directly with taking part in the plan. Mbs nbcs adam reiss is in owls head new york. Adam, lets start on whats happening right now with this search. Reporter sure. They believe that saturdays dna find is the best lead yet they have got. They want to take advantage of it. Secure the perimeter here that they cannot leave this area. They still believe theyre together. Theyre on foot. Somewhere in the woods around me. We are in the adirondack mountains. I spoke to the sheriff of Franklin County a short timing a ago. Ill let him explain what it is like. Its dense. Theres underbrush. Theres just its not easily passable. Which, you know, a lot of times leads us to believe or if theyre in this area theyre using atv trails and railroad bed and power lines and easier to traverse and different and even for the animal that is live here difficult country to get through. Reporter now, these guys are tired. Theyre wet. Theyre hungry and cold. Its been raining a lot. It gets colder at night. Theyre desperate. They dont want the go back to jail. Theyre on the run and theyre very dangerous. Krystal . Thank you. Lets bring in shawn henry, hes president of crowd strike services. Nice to see you. Good to see you. So they found dna of both of the guys in that cabin. Another potential sighting. We have to be closing in on these guys right . Thats probably the case. Time is on the side of the Law Enforcement here. Theyre tired. Theyre hungry. Theyre overwhelmed. They might be injured. Theres reports of blood in the cabin. Walking through this treacherous terrain, certainly dangerous. So time is on the side of Law Enforcement here and i think that its just really just a matter of time. You talk about the terrain. The environment in general is not helpful to those guys trying to run away and also not helpful to the police. The weather has not been helping hand in this situation to drill that down lets bring in meteorologist dominica davis to talk about the weather up there and the weather for millions of other americans. Start on the weather thats going on around that search area. Hi toure. This is a big weather station and affecting upstate new york. Dry and hot and humid and the winds picking up. We could see that from that live shot that we just had. The cold front is starting to move in and see strong storms forming from pittsburgh all the way into harrisburg and pushing into new york city. Several thunderstorm warnings issued. With these cells that have been forming this afternoon, what we have been seeing is winds in excess of 60 Miles Per Hour. So straightline winds, hail. That is going to be a major threat right through this evening. Now, heres the widespread threat risk. 45 Million People are in this enhanced risk zone and upstate new york is a part of this. So were talking widespread wind damage. Cant rule out the possibility of tornadoes. Now, that fact of tornadic activity is at a low percent but something to certainly see just like we saw yesterday in the illinois area. Heres our thunderstorm watch boxes and these are going to go right into the evening. It extends from maine all the way down to boston new york philadelphia, and right down into charleston. So the northeast corridor is going to be under the gun for at least the next several hours and, again, this Severe Threat will move through along with that cold front. The tornado risk will be at about a 5 so thats something they could also see up through parts of upstate new york. Back the you, toure. All right. Thanks. Well check back as conditions warrant. Shawn, has the weather made life harder for the cops looking for the escapees . Yeah. It will make it more difficult for them to the extent theres inclement weather, rain or clouds. That grounds aerial surveillance helpful in that situation like this. It makes it visibility is more difficult and its certainly more treacherous for Law Enforcement out going through the same type of brush. That being said theyve got the ability to go home take a nap, come back. Theyre able to run shifts so guys can warm up men and women. They can maintain their strength. For fugitives, thats not the case. Theyre getting tired. Theyre getting hungry and the weather only makes it much more difficult for them. The advantage for Law Enforcement inclement weather rather than the fugitives. And the point here to break them down is something that experts in the region have talked about put up a quote of jim hall speaking to the New York Times. Hes a certified adirondack guide saying its rugged some of the toughest in the state. Black bears. They have to be hungry dirty, wet and code. Not a woodsman you could die out there real easy. Raising the idea that having some of the criminal expertise quote unquote they may have and good at violence may not be the difference between life and death for them right now. Yeah. You know hypothermia is something to be concerned about. Even in the summer months. It gets down to 70s or 60s. With constant wetness, the clothing is wet, if you cant get inside shelter, cant get out of the elements the body heat and temperature constantly drops. Thats certainly dangerous. I know these are dangerous criminals and people are said suggested that perhaps theyre not taken alive. And in the case like this prolonged, it wouldnt completely surprise me if somebody turned themselves in getting the brink where there was just so arduous and difficult, closing in on potential life threatening conditions to turn themselves in. That would certainly be an interesting outcome. Shawn, we played earlier some of the clips of nbcs exclusive interview with Joyce Mitchells husband Lyle Mitchell the prison worker her husband. Matt lauer sat down with him and it doesnt seem like hes a type of guy that is guilty of anything or that really knew anything but at the same time such a bizarre situation its hard to know who to believe in the story. Lets play a little bit more of this. She told me that matt wanted her to pick them up. She said i wont leave lyle. He said give him some pills to knock him up and come pick us up. She said i love hi husband. I am not hurting him. She said then i knew i was in over my head. I cant do this. Shawn, what do you make of that interview . Do you think theres any reason to believe that mitchells husband knows more than hes leading on . You know i dont know that he knows more. Perhaps its ignorant bliss. Maybe hes kind of got his head out of this. The reason that somebodys motivated to do Something LikeJoyce Mitchells allegedly done here, you know are you motivated by money . Thats not the case here. Motivated by fear . Perhaps. I think more likely we heard about people talking about the love relationships in prison and she is getting attention, told her husband hes paying attention to me. I felt like didnt love me anymore. Thats what she appears to be motivated by here. Maybe she got anxious and bowed out at the last moment on the back end of this escape but that clearly seems the case. Youre saying Law Enforcement interpretation of the interview is unhelpful to her case . That is unhelpful . Yes. Well she is going to make a defense. Her attorneys make a defense on her behalf. Thats not a valid defense you fell in love or felt you were being paid attention to. Thats not a valid defense for what shedy. It doesnt appear to me her husband is come police sit but he wants to believe her for sure. Absolutely. All right. Shawn, thank you so much. We appreciate it. Thank you. And well of course keep you posted on that line of storms and also on the search. But next a decades old controversy solved in days . How did the Confederate Flag wind up at South Carolinas capitol in the first place . Exactly who put it there may surprise you. And from the state house to the u. S. Capitol, i just asked virginia senator mark warner whether a famous confederate general belongs in statuary hall. Plus what the new nbc news poll reviles about the 2016 race. Whens shocking is what isnt. If that made sense to you, youre pretty quick. The cycle rolls on for tuesday, june 23rd. Two streetlights. The only difference that little blue thingy. You see it . Thats a sensor. Using ge software, the light can react to its environment getting brighter only when its needed. In a night it saves a little energy. But, in a year it saves a lot. And the other street . Its been Burning Energy all night. For frank. Franks a cat. 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With aleve its just two pills, all day. Now im back aleve. All day strong. Just into the msnbc newsroom, dash cam video show it is arrest of the confessed Charleston Church shooter. This is a shelby north carolina, police cruiser. Dash cam there that shooter is charged with nine counts of murder and possession of a firearm during the commission of a violent crime. Police say he did not put up a fight. His next Court Appearance is not until october. Funerals for the victims start later this week. The tragedy in charleston of course, opened a National Discussion of how such a young person could have been so deeply racist. You bick wous and legitimized in areas, despite symbolizing for many slavery. Craig melvin has more on how we got to this point. Reporter a decades long fight over whether this flag means heritage or hate may soon be over. We are here in a moment of unity in our state without ill will to say its time to move the flag from the capitol grounds. [ applause ] reporter most of the republicans standing by Governor Haley in the announcement stood behind the fight to fly the flag including senator graham. I just think the pressure quite frankly, has been building to act sooner rather than later. Reporter lawmakers say nine churchgoers killed by a man with a fascination of the flag fueled the controversy. Protests and ridicule. The Confederate Flag is a symbol to be on belt buckles and bumper stickers to help the rest of us identify the worst people in the world. Reporter the battle flag hoisted in 1962 by state leaders as a thumb in the eye to the federal government pushing deseg agree regular gags. They moved it in front of the state house. While some see it as a symbol of southern pride, many locals are applauding the governors move. I grew up in this. I grew up in South Carolina. I grew up in jim crow. We are not going to stop until it really comes down. Reporter beyond South Carolina, retail giant walmart announcing monday it will pull all Confederate Flag merchandise from the stores and website saying in a statement we never want to offend anyone with the products we offer. Craig melvin thank you for that report. South Carolina State Legislature will debate removing the flag. Momentum is clearly growing to remove the flag but should it . Should this flag be blamed for what happened in charleston . Well spin on this. Its special because we are going to include friend of the show and South Carolina native jimmy williams. Jimmy, when i see the Confederate Flag i feel fear. I feel a desire on the part of the person whos raising it to erase me to erase my human rights, to act like they want to go back to a time when there was a clear racial hierarchy that did not include me that sort of a step against racial justice. I feel all of those things. And, you know some might say, well thats not what i intend but those are the symbols that were poured into the flag at the beginning. If i can quote the man who would become the Vice President of the confederacy, in 1861 he said our new government is founded upon the great truth that the negro is not equal to the white man. That slavery subordination to the superior race is his natural and normal condition. So jimmy, when we realize that that is actually poured into the flag at its inception, how am i supposed the now look at it and not think a person is trying to express some sense of white superiority . Well you are not. So just to alleviate your fear. You are not supposed to not see it that way. You read the confederate Vice President s quote. If you look at the articles of secession from South Carolina the word slavery is prolific. So its when i was a child, i was taught that the war was because of economics. Well, guess what. When you have a free entirely free workforce, that are chained literally to their work to their jobs then, yes, in fact, it is economic and also immoral. Soy think that is why, you know i look at my ancestors. They owned slaves. And theres a guy named george sentian. Loyalty to our an ses sos does not include loyalty to their mistakes. As a southern american and a man before that, i look at that and say to myself im not responsible for what my ancestors did. The only thing that i can do and that we can do the five of us and everyone else is to try to pay it forward. To make it so that our nieces and nephews and children live in a place where, you know jim crow you heard the gentleman talk about jim crow. Where that doesnt exist and not just for black american but for lgbt americans, hispanic americans, women. Women were not able to vote until however many years ago. This hiscountry has a history of putting people down. What will we do to lift people up into equal justice under the law . That is really beautifully said jimmy. Im amazed at how quickly this debate has turned obviously, im from virginia. Grew up off of Jefferson Davis highway and went to school at Clemson University and there in 2000 when this was last being really seriously debated. So, for me its just remarkable to see how quickly the politics of this has turned and see National Retailers following suit and craig mel sin mentioned. We have amazon making news today saying they too, pulling confederate items, merchandise from the website. I applaud all of that. But the relationship with confederate symbolism and imam ri is still complex. I just talked to senator mark warner a senator from virginia former govern nor of virginia, the fact that virginia has a statue of robert e. Lee in statuary hall in the capitol. So this is what they have sent to represent and the criteria here is citizens deemed worthy of national commemoration. I asked him about that statue. Heres what he said. Do you think that general lee fits that qualification . Im going to leave that to state legislature. I would say, as well that as you know in richmond we have got one of the main avenues called monument avenue that has not only robert e. Lee but Stonewall Jackson and arthur ashe on it as well. I think those kind of decisions they were figures in history. I dont believe necessarily that robert e. Lee has the same connotation as a Confederate Flag. Not ready to put this confederate general aside. You know, it is interesting. When you watch this play out, myself, for example, from the west, not from the south, and from a Younger Generation you wonder why were having this debate so far past when we should have been having this debate when you have something, a symbol that represents something so controversial, something so so full of hate and something that makes americans feel uncomfortable, you wonder why it is still being represented in any way other than a museum if thats where people want to put that. As ive watched this debate play out, i have to say were so quick to point fingers at someone or play the blame game and often its the republicans fault. Think tier reason why the flag is up there and interesting part of history, jim anymy you know this better than any of us, 1961, 62, democrats ran the state house, southern democrats and we are having the conversation a real opportunity for everyone regardless of political affiliation to say lets do whatever we can to make every single american feel comfortable, not because of one event but the right thing to do jimmy. I t