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Transcripts For MSNBCW The Cycle 20150318



is what we're at our best and we will find this suspect. public safety obviously is the number one thing and a sure you that we are -- we're going to work diligently to capture this suspect. also want to ask for the help of the community. thank the media. we need the eyes and ears of everybody out there until we resolve this situation. detective flores will get into some more of the details and we'll give you more later. >> are you looking for ryan gireaux? >> we have not released the name yet. we're still looking at confirming the suspect. and i'll let detective flores answer the specifics. >> good afternoon. detective stephan flores with the mesa police department. as the chief meza said we're still looking for the suspect. let me give you information on what happened this morning. at about 8:40 a.m. we received emergency calls of a shooting here at the tri-city motel at 1504 west main street. shortly after that we received another call from the e-vet school off site restaurant which is actually called the bistro 13 right across the street. east valley institute of technology, one of the students was shot there as well and ran across the street to receive attention from the paramedics arriving at the first incident shooting. at the first shooting we had three victims. one confirmed deceased two female victims that were transported to a hospital and one male victim who died at the scene. the second -- or the third victim which was at the bistro restaurant who was a student is an adult who ran across the street he was transported to the hospital and he is going to survive as well. and after that we began to receive information of additional shootings. after a carjacking attempt at the bistro restaurant, and we did have a vehicle description given out and it was a gray honda accord which was carjacked at the bistro restaurant from one of the teachers at the scene. the suspect fled in that vehicle to an area around 900 south dobson, an apartment complex where a home invasion took place. during that home invasion attempt, another victim was shot by the same suspect. that person is going to survive and it was a male victim at that location. once we received that call and that information we received another call where there was some radio traffic from another victim at 1800 west alameda which is another apartment complex next to the first one, another victim there who was shot and in critical condition and that is a male as well. so far total we have six victims, one of them is deceased. at this time our tactical units along with our other agency partners are assisting us in the manhunt. we do have a suspect description. we cannot confirm the identity. we've had a bunch of different different -- a bunch of different information come in that we still need to follow up on the information before we can confirm the identity of the suspect. he is a white male in his late 30s, early 40s. bald head and he does have tattoos on his neck and also on his face. the last time we gave the information of a gray shirt, black pants or shorts we have confirmed it is black shirt and black shorts at this time. but just remember he could change his clothing at any time. but we are seeking the help of the public at this time to assist us in searching for this suspect. if they see someone matching this description to please contact 911 immediately. and we will have those tactical units in the area as soon as we can. >> motive? >> we have information from mesa patrolman, are you looking for ryan gireaux? >> i cannot confirm that information that time. >> do you have an idea of a motive at this time? >> we don't have a motive. we know there was some type of argument at the first location of the motel but we don't know the motive. >> was the shooting outside or inside of the motel? >> we believe it was inside of the motel, inside one of the rooms first and then continued to shoot out side. >> was the motel the first scene or was it the bistro? >> it was the motel and then over to the bistro where the carjacking happened and then shot another victim. >> was this a family member that said this had been going on for a few days? can you elaborate? >> i can't elaborate. i don't have any information. >> so the shoots are random and related to the first crime. >> yes. >> [ inaudible ]. >> as soon as we can confirm the identity of the suspect we will give that information out. if we can give a photo at that time, that would be great so people can know what he looks like. >> if you live in this area and you hear about that i would be concerned, what do you have to say? >> we'll continue to watch for developments in that manhunt and bring them to you here. we want to turn to the big story of the day, benjamin netanyahu has won re-election but will that mean losses for obama here at home. and his focus is on building a new government and that means 60 parliament seats and he won 30 in last night's election, more than any other party and now he needs to work with other parties to build the majority coalition. his center left opposition won 24 seats yesterday. many are crediting his win to closing argument that could have big implications for u.s. foreign policy and goals that he had supported, for example, a potential palestinian state which is a bedrock policy backed by republican presidents but he made a change and promised conservatives there would be no plastan state on his watch and -- palestinian state and he said there was a poll to motivate conservatives. and the two big questions today, will his majority impact his foreign policy here and how does his conservative closing argument impact our priorities here in the u.s. we'll start with the race itself. our correspondent geraint vincent is in tel aviv. when we look at exit polls that had him trailing those liberal challengers in the zion istist party so why do you think he won? >> reporter: well all of the polls an predictions were based on the theory that the economy was the main issue in this election. certainly netanyahu's main challenger tried to make it the main issue in the campaign but it is a permanent fact about israel that it exists in a tough neighborhood surrounded by threats and people have or find as much cause to worry about their personal safety as they do about the pocket book and it was his pitch that he is the only leader capable and committed to israel israel and he went to the nuclear iran threat and the threat of isis over the border in syria and toward the end he focused on the threat about the palestinians, not just in the occupied territories but in israel itself. but it was widely dismissed at the time here in israel as the politics of fear but for bibi it worked and he had enough voters to deliver him this stunning victory. >> jerain vincent in tel aviv reporting. thank you. we head to capitol hill where peter welch joins us. good day to you. >> good day. >> let me start with the big change in policy and now disagreeing with bipartisan u.s. policy on the hope for some kind of palestinian state. i asked george mitchell who was of course senate majority leader and president obama's special middle east envoy about this last night. take a listen to what he said. >> i think he had to do it to win in his mind. the fact that he did it on the last day suggests that he probably would have preferred to win without it. but felt it was necessary. it is very painful for me because when i was in the region, i met with the leaders of nearly 20 arab countries and almost without exception they did not believe his statement when he made it in 2009. >> it is striking there, of course former senator mitchell has worked on both sides of that conflict. and he said that bibi netanyahu may not have wanted to close with this and it was desperate but how will it be viewed by you and your colleagues now it is a full break with a two-state break. >> it is a big problem. the bed rom principal and the bedroom hope of the arab community and the united states there was a path way to a two-state solution and he's renounced that and he did what he felt he did to win according to senator mitchell and he is a tactically tough politician but he denounced the arab citizens of that vibrant community and he promised more settlements which is an impediment to a two-state solution and announced no two-state solution and that is an impediment to the community and not just the united states. he won the election but may have created a longer term problem. >> and let's dig deeper into that, congressman. a lot believe that is critical to getting security for israel. clearly netanyahu is disagreeing with that. do you think that israel is better off with a two-state solution off the table? >> no. i don't. and keep in mind by the way, netanyahu got 30 seats out of 120 knesset so he got about a quarter of the votes. so there is enormous division within israel. but if you have a one-state solution that does mean the west bank is going to be occupied totally byize raelg and there is -- israel and there are a lot of folks in israel who thinks there is a right way to go but a lot of folks think there is a two-state solution solution and they weren't constantly involved in this fight with the -- the west bank. so it is hard to see what the path forward is because the whole peace process has been organized around reaching for that two-state solution and doing it in a way that provided solid security for israel. >> it seems d.c. is the biggest loser in all of this. netanyahu is now in for the long haul. and as you know the relationship between netanyahu and president obama is not a good one. as if it couldn't be any worse and now they have to work together for the next two years. are you concerned about that relationship going forward, especially when it comes to dealing with something like iran with a deal just two weeks away? >> well i'm concerned about the relationship in so far as it affects our policies. politicians disagree and we have to accept the verdict of the voters so the president will have to work with netanyahu and netanyahu will have to work with the president but the policy ises that i think will be -- the policies that i think will have to be a challengech this is a solid break from the israeli tradition of suppose pourting a two-state solution solution -- of supporting a two-state solution. and then ratcheting up the settlements in the west bank that have always been controversial i think will further intensify the distrust. so it is the policies that he's embraced that are, to my mind, much more of a challenge than whatever the personality clash is between the two leaders, congressman peter welch, thank you very much. and turning to more breaking news, night has fallen in tunisia but there is no letting up on a massive manhunt for the suspect or suspects in the terror attack that left nearly two dozen people dead mostly tourists visiting a museum. joining us on a phone from the scene, we were going to talk to smup on the scene. i think we've lost the phone call. we will -- we will stay on the story and bring it to you as we can. i i want to go to president obama speaking in cleveland on middle class economics. this is one day after house republicans unveiled their ten-year budget plan. let's listen right into the president. >> and at a time of new and evolving threats overseas the republican budget despite all of the talk they have about national security would actually cut our national securitying funding to the lowest in a dick aid and still those at the top aren't asked to sacrifice a single dime. so lower taxes for the most well off, higher taxes for working families. gutted investments in education, job training and infrastructure military and our national security. kicking tens of millions of americans off their health insurance, ending medicare as we know it. if you have heard these kinds of arguments about this kind of budget before that is because you have seen this kind of budget before. republicans in congress have put forward the same proposals year after year after year regardless of the realities of the economy. when the economy is in a slump, we need tax cuts. when the economy is doing well you know what let's try some tax cuts. we know now that the gloom and doom predictions that justified this budget three, four five years ago were wrong. despite the economic progress despite the mounds of new evidence, their approach hasn't changed. there is nothing wrong with changing your opinion if the underlying facts change. serious economic proposals change when the underlying assumptions are proven false. if republicans believe we should adhere to a set of abstract principals even though they hurt the middle class, then they should make the case. show us and prove it to us. if they believe it is time to end the social contract that sustains so many of us the basic bargain of shared sacrifice, own it and make the argument. but you can credibly claim this vision is about helping working families get ahead or this budget is a path to prosperity it is the same argument i'm having about health care it. was one thing to argue against obama care before it was put in place. every prediction about this made about it turned out to be wrong. so it is working better than even i expected. [ applause ] >> but it doesn't matter. >> you've been listening to president obama speaking at a town hall event there in cleveland. and arguing that the results and the facts support his economic policies and not the new ten-year budget the republicans have introduced. for more on this dan gross, executive editor for strategy and business and columnist for slate. good day to you. >> good to be here. >> you heard the president. what do you make of his view that he says is factual that the facts and stats and economic realities such as they are don't support the republican proposals in this budget or the notion of endless tax cuts? >> well look i think the last several years have proven that doing stimulus and continuing to support the economy threw very low -- through very low interest rates are very orthodox but got criticized because the republicans criticize every one of them, have worked. we've had five years of growth and 11 million jobs and in a situation where the fed is beginning to talk about raising interest rates whereas europe is now doing quantitative easing to try to try to -- to battle the depression. whether it is quantitative numbers or the deficit itself gone from 1.4 trillion to 1.5 annually and the course we're on is good and that has included tax increases on people making a lot of money and it has included health care reform which included tax increases and it included a tax increase on payroll. so despite everything that was done, the economy is doing quite well. >> dan i know you're going to be really shocked to learn this but in the republicans' new budget they call for full repeal of obama care. >> no. >> i'll give you a minute to let that soak in. according to experts, in addition to repealing obama care and the medicaid cuts they have in this budget 37 million people would lose health insurance. this seems like a major issue for republicans going forward and in particular thinking about some of their 2016 candidates how do they square the circle of appeasing the base by saying of course we're going to repeal obama care but not having a full solution to offer the 37 million people who could be potentially losing their coverage? >> well this is the politics we've seen in the last several years only month so because now that obama care has sort of clicked in almost fully, there are an additional 10 or 15 million people and including what we're seeing is this phenomenon states controlled by republicans coming around and saying people using the exchanges but we're doing medicaid expansion because the hospitals and the medical professionals in our states and our cities where it is one-sixth of the economy, they are realizing it is a good deal for them and for them not to be included is quite a bad deal. so if you -- if you look at the governors who are not running for presidential election republican governors, they would be quite upset if all of obama care would be repealed because it would mean a vacuuming of money for medicaid and a loss of insurance for millions of people in their states that -- and they would be looking to the governor to say how could you fix this. >> dan, this gop budget eliminated obama care and cuts food stamps and welfare, slashing the safety net once again hear being that. would this help the middle class? >> probably not. and i think it is best seen -- it is not just a return to the budget politics of three or four years ago or even to the contract with america, we're still having this argument for some reason about the new deal and the great society. because buried in there, there is also stuff about changing social security changing disability, not fully making their peace with medicare. to a large degree the republicans in congress are still -- they still have a real bee in their bonnet about what fdr did in the 1930s and what lbj did in the 1960s, things that turned out to be incredibly important and incredibly popular. >> that bee is old enough to get social security that is how old that bee is in the bonnet but that might get cut. >> but he is right. and paul writes about this we are still nighting the battle over -- still fighting the battle over the new deal. >> and you crack yourself up. >> he is dying. take two. >> go ahead, abby. >> it is a similar message six years into his presidency that we've heard from him. he spends a lot of time talking about republicans hitting on them for cutting taxes and talking about the improved economy under his administration which rightfully so the economy is doing better. but it is the very people he's talking to the middle class not feeling this and still very much struggling and as we lead into 2016 this is sort of the debate amongst the candidates of who can have the right message for the middle class. when they hear the president speaking, is it resonating to them or are they feeling like they haven't felt the effects and ready for a new message and ideas? >> here is the tricky thing about this. he can talk about the minimum wage which does something for those at the very bottom and doesn't do anything for the people in the middle. the reality is wages for americans and i'm talking about professionals and not just people who work at fast food joints have not been rising. we have the stock market more than double and corporate profits that have done reparkablely -- remarkably well but the shaflds are keeping -- the shareholders are keeping the gains for themselves and there is not a whole lot the government can do about it. it has to do with norms an the pressures the companies are under and we're seeing the dam begin to break with walmart imposing its own minimum wage. >> and dan, as we've seen union policies and government policy that is something the government can do to influence the policy and that is where we've seen the stagnation in wages so to say the government can't do anything about it i think the evidence doesn't support you on that. >> well look private sector unions let's be honest are a largely thing of the past. it is something like 6% of the private sector work force belongs to -- i believe it is that low. the auto industry is getting stronger in the south which is hostile to unions. i think the idea that if the government were to come out and make union elections easier oren force the regulation surrounding unions that would encourage unionization and wages to go up i don't think that is particularly good strategy. and the weakness of labor is the cause of the problem. and the issue again is companies for a variety of reasons, ceo's do not feel and have not felt they should raise wages, eve

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