Arab allies are letting u. S. Fighter jets use their air bases. But turkey is Still Holding out, pledging its nato bases for humanitarian and logistical advice only. We want to make sure their commitment matches whats actually needed and that were not duplicating efforts. Neither iran nor syria, two nations with troops already on the Ground Fighting isis are allowed to join the coalition. Richard engel says were crazy if we think we can keep them out. Theyre living in a delusion. If the air strikes happen, assad is going to benefit. Its assads forces and irans forces who are going to move in and take that territory. So, we can say, assad is so awful we cant even have them at the same conference. He cant even sit at the same table but we can carry out air strikes for him and allow him to reconquer his country . Thats a fundamental contradiction, one of many contradictions that will emerge the deeper they dig into this. Leading up to u. N. General Assembly Meetings this week in new york. This new nbc news poll showing americans support obamas decision to take on isis, even though they doubt well see mission accomplished. Isil no longer threats our friends in the region, no longer threatens the United States. More on the poll coming up with a live report from the white house. And a look inside the militants strategy from the man who advised both bush and obama on Iraq Security measures. First to london with christian carl, senior fellow, which copublishes Democracy Lab with Foreign Policy. His latest piece on these militants is called license to kill never underestimate the power of rage. To that point there was a quote in the New York Times from malikis minister of reconciliation. He says the culture of iraqis does not go for forgiveness. We go for revenge. I feel that sense of revenge against arab leaders and guest the wednesday is fueling isis more than religious ideology. Yes, i think youre right. I think that desire for revenge is a very powerful motivating force. The west underestimates that at its own peril. You talk about democracys role in helping to aleve that in some places up. Say rage and injustice exist everywhere. Democracy dont claim to eliminate them. What they can aspire to do is offer practical solutions, preferably without people getting killed. The piece i was curious about is we tried the whole democracy building thing in iraq. It has not worked out so well. What are other ways we can get at the root cause of rage without trying to build democracies from scratch where the institutions really dont exist and where you have very fractured societies. Hey, thats a great question. I think one of the most effective approaches is one that secretary of state kerry and president obama have been advocating in the case of iraq, which is greater participation. One of the reasons weve had this process of radicalization in iraq is because the shiadominated shy heigh shiitodominated government has eliminated others from government. Thats one thing thats driven them into the arms of isis. Weve had a number of experts on the show talking about this. One thing they all seem to agree on is in order to defeat isis, you need more than air strikes. You need boots on the ground. The big question remains, if its not our boots, whose boots are they and how do we persuade other nations if were not willing to do the very same thing . I think one of the ideas is that some of the boots on the ground should come from those in the region, particularly in iraq, the Kurdish Forces fighting isis right now. Thats a very big question. I really dont think you can defeat a grub like isis without a coherent political strategy and without boots on the ground. This idea that air strikes are going to solve everything is a fantasy. Right. And so lets extend that fantasy out. You have secretary of state kerry saying now, look, we can get air strikes from other nations in the region. Thats what were going to do. We played our own Richard Engel talking about the contradictions here because it redowns potentially to assads benefit. In your view, what happens if it is several countries limited to air strikes and no real ground operation . I think what you could get then is a sort of halfway solution where you push isis back, degrade them, limit their ability to conquer New Territory but you dont defeat them. I think the real problem, to defeat isis in the way president obama has talked about, you really need to have a big force on the ground that will challenge them and go in after them. And at the moment, i dont see the political will to do that really from anyone. Its interesting you say you dont see the political will because surely they are beheading folks publicly to try to make it hard for nations like america and Great Britain and france to say no, to not go in and fight them. So, does beheading one and maybe soon another british citizen try to strengthen that coalition from our side . Well, thats a good question. Im here in london at the moment. Its been quite remarkable since the killing of the british hostage how intensely British Public opinion seems to have been seems to have risen as a result of that. Even as i listen to people talk about this on talk radio or different shows, its been very apparent there is no particular interest in seeing regiment of british troops land in syria to take on isis or land in iraq. I kind of think those days are over. What one does hear is a willingness to use special forces, special operations, perhaps to direct air strikes from the ground. I really havent heard anyone say, we need to invade iraq the way we did at the site of the americans in 003 and go back in and reestablish an alliance that will gorchlg the country. Thats not what ive heard at all. One thing i havent heard that i would like to hear is people saying, hey, lets try to cut off their ability to sell oil. These folks are making upwards of 3 million or 4 million a day selling oil from oil fields theyve stolen. We can know who theyre selling oil to in iraq and syria and other places. Probably in africa and maybe in asia. Cant we stop them from selling oil to folks who we know . Well, Richard Engel mentioned some contradictions in this new coalition. Hes absolutely right. There are going to be a lot of very serious contradictions and hair doctio paradoxes. One of the biggest is they sell their oil through turk y one of our major allies in the region, a fairly dependable ally, but they have basically given isis and other rebels in syria a lot of support by allowing them to do things like this. I think one of the thins washington is going to be watching carefully is will the turks shut that down because thats how isis is getting a lot of its financing at the moment. There arent a lot of different ways for isis to get its oil to the markets. Really turkey is it. If the turks can shut that down, that might actually help a lot. The importance of turkey in all of this. Thank you for your time, christian carl. Breaking news, nfl star Adrian Peterson is speaking out about the charge of injury to a child that is against him. In a new statement posted on twitter just minutes ago. The running back wrishgts i want everyone to understand how sorry i feel about the hurt i have brought to my child. 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Take 4 advil in a day or just 2 aleve for all day relief. Honey, you did it baby laughs some people think vegetables are boring. But with green giants delicious seasonings and blends, we just may change their minds. Ho ho ho green giant the white house is starting with a mixed bag regarding the fight against isis. More than twothirds support the president s efforts in the strategy he outlined last wednesday. Not so good, not even a third expect those efforts to be successful. There are hearings scheduled in both chambers to assess the isis threat. Tonight the house rules committee. The cr will include a white house request for money to help train syrian rebel fighters. Nbcs Kristin Welker is at the white house. Certainly a lot on the line this week. What is the latest there . Reporter there is so much on the line that a Senior Administration official tells me president obama will be reaching out to individual lawmakers throughout the week to press them to pass that legislation that you just talked about, that piece of legislation, which would include funding to arm and train the Syrian Opposition forces. Of course, this is not something we see every day. President obama reaching out to lawmakers. But he began this process last week after he addressed the nation and mapped out his strategy for defeating isis. Of course, Something Else we dont see regularly here in washington, you have a number of Republican Leaders saying that they are behind president obama on this. They believe passing this legislation, arming and training the Syrian Rebel Army is the right thing to do. I was talking to my sources on capitol hill that believes the legislation is going to pass with bipartisan support. As you pointed out, the process begins today. In this town, of course, anything can happen. All of this is going on, while secretary of state john kerry continues his efforts to build a Broad International coalition to defeat isis. They are asking for other countries to join in the air campaign and also for those regional countries to put troops on the ground to try to defeat isis. A lot of military officials, though, are going to say its going to be tough to achieve that without u. S. Boots on the ground. The white house continues to insist thats not going to happen. Heres what White House Press secretary josh earnest had to say during his press conference a short time ago. I can say definitively the president has ruled out sending american boots on the ground to be engaged in a combat role in iraq and syria. The strategy the president has put forward to deal with the threat posed by isil in iraq and syria is different from the strategy put in place in advance of the last conflict in iraq. Reporter Senior Administration officials said over the weekend that the white house had gotten commitments from several arab countries to join in the air campaign. Today during the daily briefing, earnest wouldnt name those countries specifically. Back to you. Thank you so much as always. Lets turn now to the National Journal and staff correspondent to train and arm the syrian rebels. Of course, Republican Leadership getting on board with something hasnt always meant a whole lot in the Republican Caucus. Do you think that this time the Republican Caucus is going to fall in line with john boehner and the majority of them back this proposal . You know, it looks to me, just from my discussions with members of Congress Last week, into the weekend, they will back this eventually. There was a lot of skepticism and there was a lot of questions about procedure, about how exactly theyre going to bring this up. As we noted, the rules committee is going to drop this language tonight and it looks like its going to be voted on as early as wednesday. Yeah. Well, krystal mentioned that poll earlier in the segment. Almost the same percentage of americans that say they support the president s fight against isis also lack of confidence we will actually achieve our goals. Isnt this a pretty clear indication that after 9 11, americans think about the war on terror rationally. They know the reality of the threat but they also know how difficult it is to achieve successes. Its not going to be a threemonth mission. I think youre absolutely right. The fact is americans are warweary after more than a decade of sinking blood and treasury into the middle east. And the fact that the region is as unstable today as it ever was. Theres a lack of good options here. First of all, we dont know who the Free Syrian Army is. Whether arming them would be a good idea. Theres a lot of geopolitical problems that come with bombing iraq and syria as well. And i think theres recognition of all those things in the American Public. Im glad to see americans are behind what obama wants to do, visavis isis. Part of me says, so what . Should the white house actually care what the public has to say, visavis military action . This is an area where the differential between what the public actually knows and what the white house and the insiders actually know is more gigantic than anyone where else. Wouldnt we like to see the white house make these military decisions based on intel and the National Security briefings rather than polling and what the public knows . Well, if theyre doing it unilaterally, sure. But the fact is, they need they believe they need congressional authorization for this move to arm the syrian rebels. As we know, congress is very much swayed by public opinion. Only a couple weeks ago there was absolutely zero willingness to do anything in isis, bombing, arming, any of that. Ever since the polls changed, the polling numbers you mentioned earlier in the show, congress is now completely on board and, like i said, later on this week were going to have that vote. I mean, a lot of the polls we look at ask people what they want to have happen. Sometimes its more illuminating to see what people think about this. You did an interesting survey on this, asking simply, what countries have we been bombing lately . When you ask that, you only get 25 of people that realize weve been bombing somalia or pakistan. Only 16 realize weve been bombing yemen. This a statement about our Foreign Policy. Th people cant even keep track. I wonder what it matters when we ask them who else we should bomb when they dont realize how much were already doing. Good point. But americans know theres still a lot of fear. A lot of the questions about isis go to the fact that if we allow it to metastasize, theyll have the capability or build it up to strike us in the homeland. Thats what member maybe. Maybe that. That could be a strategic reason. Or maybe people are angry they beheaded americans and maybe we want something back. Maybe thats not a good strategic reason. Mrab we dont have a full plan worked out. We just want to hit back. Fair point. I think the same polling showed about 95 of americans know who james foley is. That would make it the biggest news story of the summer it was clearly tied to the public executions of the two journalists. Now a british humanitarian aid worker who was most recently beheaded. Americans are angry. The problem is, like i said earlier, theres just not a great strategy and not a great answer. Seems to be some public recognition of that. Thank you so much. Up next, is isiss strategy about to backfire . What is their strategy . 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