Arab allies are letting u. S. Fighter jets use their air bases. But turkey is Still Holding out, pledging its nato bases for humanitarian and logistical advice only. We want to make sure their commitment matches whats actually needed and that were not duplicating efforts. Neither iran nor syria, two nations with troops already on the Ground Fighting isis are allowed to join the coalition. Richard engel says were crazy if we think we can keep them out. Theyre living in a delusion. If the air strikes happen, assad is going to benefit. Its assads forces and irans forces who are going to move in and take that territory. So, we can say, assad is so awful we cant even have them at the same conference. He cant even sit at the same table but we can carry out air strikes for him and allow him to reconquer his country . Thats a fundamental contradiction, one of many contradictions that will emerge the deeper they dig into this. Leading up to u. N. General Assembly Meetings this week in new york. This new nbc news poll showing americans support obamas decision to take on isis, even though they doubt well see mission accomplished. Isil no longer threats our friends in the region, no longer threatens the United States. More on the poll coming up with a live report from the white house. And a look inside the militants strategy from the man who advised both bush and obama on Iraq Security measures. First to london with christian carl, senior fellow, which copublishes Democracy Lab with Foreign Policy. His latest piece on these militants is called license to kill never underestimate the power of rage. To that point there was a quote in the New York Times from malikis minister of reconciliation. He says the culture of iraqis does not go for forgiveness. We go for revenge. I feel that sense of revenge against arab leaders and guest the wednesday is fueling isis more than religious ideology. Yes, i think youre right. I think that desire for revenge is a very powerful motivating force. The west underestimates that at its own peril. You talk about democracys role in helping to aleve that in some places up. Say rage and injustice exist everywhere. Democracy dont claim to eliminate them. What they can aspire to do is offer practical solutions, preferably without people getting killed. The piece i was curious about is we tried the whole democracy building thing in iraq. It has not worked out so well. What are other ways we can get at the root cause of rage without trying to build democracies from scratch where the institutions really dont exist and where you have very fractured societies. Hey, thats a great question. I think one of the most effective approaches is one that secretary of state kerry and president obama have been advocating in the case of iraq, which is greater participation. One of the reasons weve had this process of radicalization in iraq is because the shiadominated shy heigh shiitodominated government has eliminated others from government. Thats one thing thats driven them into the arms of isis. Weve had a number of experts on the show talking about this. One thing they all seem to agree on is in order to defeat isis, you need more than air strikes. You need boots on the ground. The big question remains, if its not our boots, whose boots are they and how do we persuade other nations if were not willing to do the very same thing . I think one of the ideas is that some of the boots on the ground should come from those in the region, particularly in iraq, the Kurdish Forces fighting isis right now. Thats a very big question. I really dont think you can defeat a grub like isis without a coherent political strategy and without boots on the ground. This idea that air strikes are going to solve everything is a fantasy. Right. And so lets extend that fantasy out. You have secretary of state kerry saying now, look, we can get air strikes from other nations in the region. Thats what were going to do. We played our own Richard Engel talking about the contradictions here because it redowns potentially to assads benefit. In your view, what happens if it is several countries limited to air strikes and no real ground operation . I think what you could get then is a sort of halfway solution where you push isis back, degrade them, limit their ability to conquer New Territory but you dont defeat them. I think the real problem, to defeat isis in the way president obama has talked about, you really need to have a big force on the ground that will challenge them and go in after them. And at the moment, i dont see the political will to do that really from anyone. Its interesting you say you dont see the political will because surely they are beheading folks publicly to try to make it hard for nations like america and Great Britain and france to say no, to not go in and fight them. So, does beheading one and maybe soon another british citizen try to strengthen that coalition from our side . Well, thats a good question. Im here in london at the moment. Its been quite remarkable since the killing of the british hostage how intensely British Public opinion seems to have been seems to have risen as a result of that. Even as i listen to people talk about this on talk radio or different shows, its been very apparent there is no particular interest in seeing regiment of british troops land in syria to take on isis or land in iraq. I kind of think those days are over. What one does hear is a willingness to use special forces, special operations, perhaps to direct air strikes from the ground. I really havent heard anyone say, we need to invade iraq the way we did at the site of the americans in 003 and go back in and reestablish an alliance that will gorchlg the country. Thats not what ive heard at all. One thing i havent heard that i would like to hear is people saying, hey, lets try to cut off their ability to sell oil. These folks are making upwards of 3 million or 4 million a day selling oil from oil fields theyve stolen. We can know who theyre selling oil to in iraq and syria and other places. Probably in africa and maybe in asia. Cant we stop them from selling oil to folks who we know . Well, Richard Engel mentioned some contradictions in this new coalition. Hes absolutely right. There are going to be a lot of very serious contradictions and hair doctio paradoxes. One of the biggest is they sell their oil through turk y one of our major allies in the region, a fairly dependable ally, but they have basically given isis and other rebels in syria a lot of support by allowing them to do things like this. I think one of the thins washington is going to be watching carefully is will the turks shut that down because thats how isis is getting a lot of its financing at the moment. There arent a lot of different ways for isis to get its oil to the markets. Really turkey is it. If the turks can shut that down, that might actually help a lot. The importance of turkey in all of this. Thank you for your time, christian carl. Breaking news, nfl star Adrian Peterson is speaking out about the charge of injury to a child that is against him. In a new statement posted on twitter just minutes ago. The running back wrishgts i want everyone to understand how sorry i feel about the hurt i have brought to my child. 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Reporter there is so much on the line that a Senior Administration official tells me president obama will be reaching out to individual lawmakers throughout the week to press them to pass that legislation that you just talked about, that piece of legislation, which would include funding to arm and train the Syrian Opposition forces. Of course, this is not something we see every day. President obama reaching out to lawmakers. But he began this process last week after he addressed the nation and mapped out his strategy for defeating isis. Of course, Something Else we dont see regularly here in washington, you have a number of Republican Leaders saying that they are behind president obama on this. They believe passing this legislation, arming and training the Syrian Rebel Army is the right thing to do. I was talking to my sources on capitol hill that believes the legislation is going to pass with bipartisan support. As you pointed out, the process begins today. In this town, of course, anything can happen. All of this is going on, while secretary of state john kerry continues his efforts to build a Broad International coalition to defeat isis. They are asking for other countries to join in the air campaign and also for those regional countries to put troops on the ground to try to defeat isis. A lot of military officials, though, are going to say its going to be tough to achieve that without u. S. Boots on the ground. The white house continues to insist thats not going to happen. Heres what White House Press secretary josh earnest had to say during his press conference a short time ago. I can say definitively the president has ruled out sending american boots on the ground to be engaged in a combat role in iraq and syria. The strategy the president has put forward to deal with the threat posed by isil in iraq and syria is different from the strategy put in place in advance of the last conflict in iraq. Reporter Senior Administration officials said over the weekend that the white house had gotten commitments from several arab countries to join in the air campaign. Today during the daily briefing, earnest wouldnt name those countries specifically. Back to you. Thank you so much as always. Lets turn now to the National Journal and staff correspondent to train and arm the syrian rebels. Of course, Republican Leadership getting on board with something hasnt always meant a whole lot in the Republican Caucus. Do you think that this time the Republican Caucus is going to fall in line with john boehner and the majority of them back this proposal . You know, it looks to me, just from my discussions with members of Congress Last week, into the weekend, they will back this eventually. There was a lot of skepticism and there was a lot of questions about procedure, about how exactly theyre going to bring this up. As we noted, the rules committee is going to drop this language tonight and it looks like its going to be voted on as early as wednesday. Yeah. Well, krystal mentioned that poll earlier in the segment. Almost the same percentage of americans that say they support the president s fight against isis also lack of confidence we will actually achieve our goals. Isnt this a pretty clear indication that after 9 11, americans think about the war on terror rationally. They know the reality of the threat but they also know how difficult it is to achieve successes. Its not going to be a threemonth mission. I think youre absolutely right. The fact is americans are warweary after more than a decade of sinking blood and treasury into the middle east. And the fact that the region is as unstable today as it ever was. Theres a lack of good options here. First of all, we dont know who the Free Syrian Army is. Whether arming them would be a good idea. Theres a lot of geopolitical problems that come with bombing iraq and syria as well. And i think theres recognition of all those things in the American Public. Im glad to see americans are behind what obama wants to do, visavis isis. Part of me says, so what . Should the white house actually care what the public has to say, visavis military action . This is an area where the differential between what the public actually knows and what the white house and the insiders actually know is more gigantic than anyone where else. Wouldnt we like to see the white house make these military decisions based on intel and the National Security briefings rather than polling and what the public knows . Well, if theyre doing it unilaterally, sure. But the fact is, they need they believe they need congressional authorization for this move to arm the syrian rebels. As we know, congress is very much swayed by public opinion. Only a couple weeks ago there was absolutely zero willingness to do anything in isis, bombing, arming, any of that. Ever since the polls changed, the polling numbers you mentioned earlier in the show, congress is now completely on board and, like i said, later on this week were going to have that vote. I mean, a lot of the polls we look at ask people what they want to have happen. Sometimes its more illuminating to see what people think about this. You did an interesting survey on this, asking simply, what countries have we been bombing lately . When you ask that, you only get 25 of people that realize weve been bombing somalia or pakistan. Only 16 realize weve been bombing yemen. This a statement about our Foreign Policy. Th people cant even keep track. I wonder what it matters when we ask them who else we should bomb when they dont realize how much were already doing. Good point. But americans know theres still a lot of fear. A lot of the questions about isis go to the fact that if we allow it to metastasize, theyll have the capability or build it up to strike us in the homeland. Thats what member maybe. Maybe that. That could be a strategic reason. Or maybe people are angry they beheaded americans and maybe we want something back. Maybe thats not a good strategic reason. Mrab we dont have a full plan worked out. We just want to hit back. Fair point. I think the same polling showed about 95 of americans know who james foley is. That would make it the biggest news story of the summer it was clearly tied to the public executions of the two journalists. Now a british humanitarian aid worker who was most recently beheaded. Americans are angry. The problem is, like i said earlier, theres just not a great strategy and not a great answer. Seems to be some public recognition of that. Thank you so much. Up next, is isiss strategy about to backfire . What is their strategy . 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Strategy against isis. Counterterror expert and retired doug olivant lays out his fourpoint plan. Hes now senior fellow at new America Foundation after serving under both the bush and obama National Security councils as their director for iraq. Welcome back to the show, sir. It seems to me. Good afternoon. That isis is beheading westerners publicly to make it politically untenable for us not to go to war, to not want to fight them. And they want the fight over there because it strengthens their message that, hey, come be with us to repel foreign invaders. Is that how you read it . Im not sure they really understood what they were getting into when they started beheading westerners. Im not sure that isis wants us there. I think that isis may have made some real tactical errors here. Had they not conducted these beheadings and had they not conducted these humanitarian atrocities against the yazidis in the north, a warweary American Public might have been able to let this one go. Instead, they really galvanized americans, as you were saying early. While i think americans are still warweary, isis managed to raise the bar to the point where, as youre polling shows, americans are willing to move forward on this. Just to give people a sense, according to the cia, isis now has 31,000 fighters. More fighters than actually many countries. If we can show a list of countries that have fewer fighters than isis. This puts it in perspective. Talk about a huge wakeup call. This is not going up just against a terror group. This is a fullon army. It is, in many ways. They have advanced weaponry. They have incredible discipline. The al qaeda in iraq that isis evolved from, that Many American soldiers are familiar with having fought against it in the early part of the iraq war, we used to talk about them. They were great terrorists. They were great bomb makers, great kidnappers. If you could get them in a fire fight they would die because they were terrible infantry. The war in syria has changed that. Now this group has incredible discipline. Theyre flush with cash, idealogically motivated, well armed, well equipped. Theyre a real threat in the region. I dont want to make them ten foot tall. Theyre not equivalent of a u. S. Marine squad but effective, nonetheless. Theyre effective at using social media for global propaganda purposes. Twitter and other social media flat forms seem to be wise on them, cracking down on accounts associated with isis. In june the main isis account had 5,000 plus followers. Twitter us suspended all their pages, making it much more difficult for them to freely disseminate their propaganda. How dependent on social media are they for bringing in all these new recruits . Well, theyre dependent on all of modern media. They use social media but just like any other campaign. If tomorrow we didnt let ford motor company, say, advertise on twitter, they would find other avenues to get to their customer base. Theyre not stupid. Neither is isis. They have english language magazines they publish. I was, in fact, quoted in one. Wow. If youve seen their videos, theyre madison avenue production style. This isnt two guys in their basement putting a soundtrack on something. This is professionally done, western production values. Theyre very capable. Yeah. And youve written about that and how they are distinct. You say that isis is a new and novel form of malignant terrorism, on behalf of a selfproclaimed sovereign state. Yet that analysis doesnt answer the strategic question of when we have to act and intercede. You can think of admitly different but other terrorist style organizations that have foot d footholds, hezbollah, what do you think is the pinpointed reason, the lever or the basically, what theyve done that necessities u. S. Action in a way that, for example, hamas has not . I think what necessities u. S. Action is theyve shown theyre willing to threaten all our allies in the region. I think what really woke up u. S. Policymakers was less the beheadings and less the atrocities. Those are certainly things that concern us and certainly gavel niz the public. But it was the Islamic State making that left turn and attacking up toward erbil. Before that we could have just characterized this as a civil war inside these two countries. Sunni groups rebelling against ali aloite, against the kurds. This is something very, very different and now were starting to see them probe the border of lebanon. Weve heard them threaten jordan, threaten saudi arabia. Even if you dont care about iraq and syria, we care about all the neighbors countries. We cant afford chaos in all of these countries simultaneously, which the Islamic State threatens to do. They have to feel incredibly emboldened right now. Theyve taken tons of territory, getting in thousands of recruits, tons of money. If you are isis looking at the future, what is the thing you are most nervous, most afraid of . I think what theyre most afraid of is exactly what is happening. The United States putting together a coalition of local partners and em poiring them by giving them more intelligence, more air power, by us coordinating their planning and making groups that wouldnt ordinarily work together, work together. Isis has brought this on themselves. I often use the analogy, you know, the old fairytale about the progress and the scorpion, you know, the progress the scorpion wants to cross the river. The frog thinks and says, as long as the scorpion is on my back. Hes just going to drown in the river if he stings me. Halfway across the river the scorpion stings his back the frog says, why did you do that . He says, thats my nature. Isis is going to do what they do. Theyll do things not to their immediate tactical benefit. Love that story. Thank you very much. Up next, a different kind of crisis. Ebola emergency. The president travels to cdc tomorrow for toplevel briefing as one official says the outbreak is spiraling out of control. Right now the Minnesota Vikings are on defense. Explaining their division to play star running back Adrian Peterson. Hes just one of four highprofile genderviolent cases overshadowing the games today. Much more cycle ahead. When it comes to good nutrition. Im no expert. That would be my daughter hi dad. Shes a dietitian. And back when i wasnt eating right, she got me drinking boost. Its got a great taste, and it helps give me the nutrition i was missing. Helping me stay more like me. [ female announcer ] boost complete nutritional drink has 26 essential vitamins and minerals, including calcium and vitamin d to support strong bones and 10 grams of protein to help maintain muscle. All with a delicious taste. Grandpa [ female announcer ] stay strong, stay active with boost. Its monday. Dpa a brand new start. Your chance to rise and shine. 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This week the white house is pushing congress for an additional 88 million for drugs and personnel dispatch to the epicenter of the outbreak in west africa. Todd moss, serving as Deputy Assistant secretary of state from 2007 to 2008. Hes written a new novel called the golden hour that reveals as much about how washington works with african nation as it does about the life on the ground there. Thank you for being with us. Ebola sort of became an afterthought after the 90s when we sort of figured out how to deal with it. We are now dealing with the worst Ebola Outbreak in history. Its more reminiscent of a movie than it is reality. How is this spiralled out of control so quickly . Well, i think the ebola crisis highlights how some fragile countries that are close to u. S. Allies are going to continue to need u. S. Assistance. And also american lives, which seem far away from africa, were much more interbetweened with africa than we think. Its not only for bad reasons. A lot is for positive things going on. What more can the United States do that were not doing to help them . Its clear countries like liberia, a very close u. S. Ally, are going to need a lot of quick assistance. They dont have the systems in place to contain it. They look to the United States for help and, frankly, weve been too slow in getting off the dime to help them. The continent of africa has grown immensely over the last few years. Its supposed to continue to grow the next few decades from just over 1 billion now to almost 2. 5 billion in the few decades. But they have not economically grown. Theres an immense amount of poverty. Are those two factors, the growing population, the widespread poverty, having a huge impact on this . You know, africa actually is a very positive economic story right now. More than half of the countries are growing at at least 5 . We would be happy to grow at 2 this year. Theyre growing 5 , 6 , some countries are growing nearly 10 a year. That is creating lots of Economic Opportunities for the United States. Identify been working on africa the last 25 years. Ive never seen the last two or three years where businesses now are fighting over themselves to try to find Investment Opportunities in africa. That is exciting. In addition to the Ebola Outbreak we see extreme ideology. There was news that police in uganda say they explosives on a raid on al shabab. Are there concern if these sorts of threats under tamed will undermine the Bright Future for africa . Just as the economic picture is very bright, the flip side is that the security situation is looking problematic in some places. The horn of africa in the east, Sahara Desert are areas where extremist groups, where weve hit them in the middle east, they popped up in these other regions. Thats another region well are more engaged in africa than ever before. With your experience, what is it like within the state department, if you are, say, an undersecretary for one of these regions that we often think of as neglected, if we have ideas and you want to get ahead of these problems . Because i imagine the people working day to day could have told us about this stuff earlier, before it was a crisis, before it was in the news. We hear about africa being no offense to your prior position, but lower priority of the state department. Its true that africa historically has been lower on the Foreign Policy ladder than, say, the middle east or asia. It had been rising. President clinton elevated africa. President bush elevated africa within the hierarchy. That fell off, surprisingly, under president obama. Were starting to see that come back because of the economic trends. Companies want the u. S. Involved and because of the new National Security threats. Were seeing it come back up. Day to day youre fighting in the trenches because there are a lot of issues on the president s plate. Secretary of state is putting out a lot of fires. But were the United States government. We can walk and chew gum at the same time. We can be active in asia and the middle east and support our National Interests in africa. You know, you deal with africa for years, decades as you have. We talk about it as one place. But it is a gigantic continent. There are many, many countries, many different challenges. Whats going on in Southern Africa is not whats going on in eastern africa, western africa. Just to get americans to think about it as many different places would be valuable. Absolutely. I mean, its kind of like saying, you know, theres problems in ferguson, missouri. Therefore, im not going to go visit new york city. That would be crazy to an american. But, you know, ive heard of people canceling their trip to ken, yeah a saf farry in kenya because of Ebola Outbreak thousands of miles on the other side of the continent. There are still problems in africa, absolutely. But most of the continent is actually doing extremely well right now. Im sure, todd, as someone who loves the continent of africa, it must be frustrating to you that the only time it seems like americans think about the country is when theyre thinking about a terrorist threat or an Ebola Outbreak. What would you want folks to know about the africa that you know and love . Its remarkable how quickly the narrative on africa is changing. I think just in the last couple of years, were seeing a lot more people visit africa. Im sure this ebola will put a little brakes on that temporarily. But the Business Community interests, the National Security community interests and really pop culture is starting to embrace africa in a way we havent seen before. Tell us about your novel. So, when i left i hear its doing pretty well. Thank you. It is doing well. I think its doing great. Right when i left the state department, i wanted to write a story about dysfunction in the u. S. Government, in making Foreign Policy in the 21s century. These crises pop up all over the world. We seem to react slowly. We seem not to make good decisions. I started writing a Nonfiction Book and i thought, i could reach a wider audience with a thriller so i wrote the golden hour. Has hollywood called yet . Were talking with folks in california. Were hopeful. Do you feel you can sort of tell the truth in a way more bluntly and more honestly in fiction since youre not directly attacking people than in some ways if you did a work of nonfiction . Believe it or not, the reality is crazier than what you could imagine in fiction. I believe it. But, you know, in thinking about the kinds of stories id want to tell, i wanted them to feel authentic, particularly to people in government that felt so frustrated with all the interagency fighting. But i thought doing it through fiction i could tell more stories, it would be authentic and also i wouldnt have to worry lets give you a cycle tip because we have a big author at the table. Toure has done several books. He goes in on amazon as several different people and comments how great his book is. Is that whats going on . I highly recommend that, that you are telling the world how great your book is. No, we could have a major conversation about how truth you can get into in fiction and nonfiction. Entirely is catcher in the rye truthful . Absolutely. Thats my favorite book. I think its sarin dip to us here on the cycle but one of the main characters is pop pa toure. Thats my nickname. Thats the funniest thing. Always comes back to toure. Great to have you back. 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He writes, quote, im not a perfect parent but i am, without a doubt, not a child abuser. I am someone that disciplined his child and didnt intend to cause him any injury. No one can understand and for the harm i caused him. He was not allowed to play in yesterdays game but vikings announced peterson will be back on the field and play next son. Rick spielman defended the Decision Just moments ago. Were trying to do the right thing. This is a difficult path to navigate. Regarding the judgment of how a parent disciplines his child. Based on the extensive information that we have right now, and what we know about adrian not only as a person, but what he has also done for this community, we believe he deserves to play while the Legal Process plays out. Also today, former Baltimore Ravens running back ray rice is expected to appeal his indefinite suspension from the nfl. Rice was released by his team and released hours after that tmz sports video was released of rice hitting his thenfiancee in an elevator. Joining us columnist for bloomberg. How are you . Good. We played a little bit. They also say, look, this is a matter of due process. We should allow the legal system to proceed so we can come to the most effective conclusions and then determine the appropriate course of action. Whats wrong with that . This is a common tactic the league likes to take. The collective Bargaining Agreement in which they agreed with the players what their discipline should be and they wait for the criminal Justice System to play out. The problem is the teams are not beholden to that. The team can make their own action and probably made the right decision when they sat him on sunday. Adrian peterson should send a thank you basket to new England Patriots for giving the vikings the rubbing they got because thats probably why hell be back on the field sunday. And to that part, part of the reason the story is getting the attention is because of whats going on, part of ray rice, and part is because a drdrian peter is a superstar, hes on the tickets, on the parking passes, theyre getting a new stadium in part because hes such a tremendous player. How much of that goes into this decision . If he was some secondstringer they felt they didnt need in the game, do you think hed be playing on sunday . Absolutely not. I think especially given what the league is going through right now with ray rice, they probably would have made a smarter decision when it comes to that. But youre right, the vikings cant really bench the face of their organization. And, you know, lets not forget also Adrian Peterson pretty much drives what is a 70 billion fantasy football market here. Heres a fan favorite. And even the team said themselves, we know him as a person. This is something the ravens said about ray rice as well. Somehow, we know the man and even all of this evidence is ab secured in that. You make it sound like hes too big to fail. Teams at all levels from high school up to pros talk about having pride in the uniform and pride for the name on the front of the jersey. Not just on the back of the jersey. They also talk about working with the community and being part of the community. Its the Minnesota Vikings, right, not the vikings of minnesota. Can they really tell the community, who they are part of, hes supposed to be a brother of the community, that we are proud to put this person out there when we know what hes done . You wonder, too, if teams should have a different standard than the legal system you . Talk about how they sort of stand behind the legal system. It almost becomes a sort of dodge the situation when hes admitted what hes done. Weve seen photographs. We know whats happened here in a lot you know, the legal barrier to get to child abuse will be much higher but the team, to invite the community and root for this guy, shouldnt that be a different standard . It should absolutely be a different standard. Weve seen these photos. We know what hes done. We dont need a judge to tell us thatphotos. We know what hes done. We dont need a judge to tell us that he beat his child with a stick and caused these injuries. Were having the wrong conversations about this. This was not a spanking. Its really important to understand that. This was not a normal spanking. We can have conversations about what a normal spanking is. This absolutely went above and beyond that line and i cant believe that were sitting here with people actually defending him. You hear Charles Barkley say thats what we do in the south. We dont get the culture of the south. I dont think thats whats going on here. Thats a problematic thing that Charles Barkley said. He not only brought in the regional and cultural aspect but a racial aspect. To try and paint this as a black and white issue is damaging and dangerous. A lot of black people take it as a point of pride that thats why our kids are better. Its insane. He said this is how i know to discipline my kids because this is how i was disciplined. Hes basically saying if you read between the lines, this is what my parents did to me and i came out all right. Its an inability to see outside of his own experience that this was wrong and that he was the result of this wrong system of discipline. Yeah. Put the facts aside. The perception of this is really bad and its really depressing. It seems like every week now you have another superstar thats getting in trouble for doing something terrible like the nfl lets these guys run wild without any sort of discipline. Whats sad about this is the games have just started and we have a long way to go here, what does the nfl have to do to get ahead of this . Theres a lot of talk about goodell having to step down. Even fans are saying the only way to move forward is for him to be removed. I think thats realistic . I dont think that would change anything frankly. The power thats rooted in these 32 owners goes far and above roger goodell. He actually has taken steps today they announced that he promoted a vicepresident of i believe a special organization or something social responsibility. Social responsibility, thank you. Who is a woman and a woman who has been part of their Community Outreach efforts as well in addition to an Advisory Board with three women on it. I think thats fantastic. Ive been advocating for that for a while. Im a little skeptical as to the nfls ability to police itself. So i guess well see what happens but i think its at least a positive step that theyre trying to involve more women in this conversation. Thank you so much. It says here that youre doing a rant up next, from ray rice to isis, the image matters. 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Our government and media shield us from being able to see anything more than a slide. Part of whats so shocking here is were not used to seeing horrific things happen to american bodies overseas. For the first several years of the iraq war we werent allowed to see flagdraped coffins so it seemed like a war without american deaths. Were blocked from seeing so much of the cost of war, of the evil of war as if we are too sensitive or squeamish or unable to handle the graphic truth. Part of what makes isis so barbaric is force is us to see how evil war can be, thus breaking the unstated modern contract that war should be conducted largely out of public view. Our government seems to say let them see some of it but not the truly messy parts. We learned that in vietnam seeing so much erodes public support. Kenneth jareki was in the gulf war who happened man a man frozen in the midst of dying. He said if i dont make pictures like this, people like my mother will think that what they see at war is what they see in movies. So he tookd a graphic photo. You see a man almost frozen in the midst of dying, charred beyond belief. The ap did not transmit his photo, judging it even too much for editors to see. The london observers published it and it ended up in a traveling museum. But it was one of many images that are kept from us. Its so graphic i cant show it to you now. Its easier to galvanize support for war when the people dont know how bad it is. Government censorship of war images, their sanitization of modern war, their ban on letting us see concern things only perpetuat perpetuates the governments ability to have us truly not know. If were big enough to fight a war, we should be big enough to look at it. We saw the power of violent images in the ray rice situation, a detailed description of the incident got him a minimal suspension. Seeing him be violent with her forced the nfl to act. More images are far worse and seeing them could have a powerful impact on all of us. Censorship allows us to be numb, to ignore the costs and the consequences. A soldier wrote, the real grotesqueness is the idea thats been sold to the American Public that war can be sterle. Susan soulen tag asked is there an antidote to the perennial sdruk seductiveness of horror. Im afraid of true answer is to show the true horror of war. Maybe that way we will know exactly what we are choosing to support or not to support. That does it for the cycle. Now with alex wagner starts right now. 26 countries have signed onto the coalition against isis but with no specifics it is unclear what exactly that means. Its monday, september 15th and this is now. Its important to strike while the iron is hot here. Several arab powers strength in numbers a willingness to join with us in this. According many countries that dont see eye to eye. That terror Group Showing the brutal murder of a british hostage. They are drawing the west into this conflict piece by piece. This idea well never have boots on the ground to defeat them in syria is fantasy. The boots are the ground are inconvenient boots. If the u. S. Is not going to put Ground Troops in syria, who will . Congress is expected to vote as early as tomorrow to train and support the syrian rebels. In many ways bombing isis is the easy part. There are only bad choices left but the worst choice would be to do nothing. The hard question which is i still unanswered is what happens next . The Broad Coalition against isis in iraq eed