Transcripts For MSNBCW The Beat With Ari Melber 20200605 : c

Transcripts For MSNBCW The Beat With Ari Melber 20200605

Ban Police Chokeholds and other controversial tactics. This is a series of police reforms. Then you can go over to the white house where the mayor sent a message to the president and really the entire country, black lives matter painted in those gigantic yellow letters you see there in our nations capitol. This was at the exact site where donald trump had ordered Law Enforcement to disperse those Peaceful Protesters. That was a maneuver that as you can see from the archival footage turned basically clearly violent and also had others caught much the crossfire, including journalists. Its now called black lives matter plaza. Another sign of direct policy actions are taking shape, donald trump talked about how he wants to ease racial strife. Whats happened to our country and what you now see has been happening is the greatest thing that can happen for Race Relations for, interest African American community. Whats your plan . Because our country is so strong. And thats what my plan. Were going have the strongest economy in the world. We almost are there now. Well be joined momentarily by two of our special experts on the beat. But first we go the drowned where members Shaquille Brewster is live in minneapolis. Shaquille . Hi there, ari. What were doing right now, were in front of u. S. Bank stadium, where youre going to have march of people. You have thousands of people here already. And theyre going to march for about 10 kilometers, which i dont know the conversion, excuse me. But well be going to a destination. I tell you, this march is called unfinished business. And something that you continue to hear from the protesters here today. Theyre excited about the change that they believe they have started to gain already. Today we heard from the state, which had an agreement with the city council to ban chokeholds, for example. Thats something here that people cheered. There is also a part of that is a duty for officers to inform or intervene if they see an officer using unnecessary force or unauthorized force. People here said thats changed and thats something they celebrated. Something they continue to say this is just the first step. They want to see these systemic issues, they want to see those addressed. And thats why theyre continuously coming out here, continuing to march, continuing to show up to the vigil at the location where george floyd was killed. Ill continue to walk around. You see signs that say white silence equals violence. Thats what people have continued to show and continued to say. You see a young group here, a diverse group. Were seeing these things all over the city, all over the country. Thats the main message that you hear today. They are happy that theyre getting the progress, happy that they feel like theyre starting to make an impact, and that these protests are making an impact. But they say they have a long ways to go until they get to where they want to be. Ari . Shaquille brewster doing so much reporting for us out there. Thank you. Stay safe. As promised, we now turn to the roots, Danielle Belton and rutgers professor brittney cooper. Brittany, were here attend of another long week in america, a movement that is clearly showing that it will not let up in any particular place over any single measure, but seeking this structural reform. What you see out there tonight. You know, the protests have been inspiring. I mean, ive been concerned were in the middle of a pandemic. But i do think the commitment of these folks to be in these streets in these harrowing times tells us something about the urgency of these matters. But i also want to offer a bit of a Historical Context here. Remember that in 2014, when the movement for black lives exploded, many activists were called into question, and folks said whats your agenda beyond protest . So in 2016, the movement for black lives put out an extensive over 80page platform where they outline measures like this, where they called on local communities to divest from Police Forces and reinvest that money into black communities and into local community initiatives. So this is a long effort. These protests are part of a broader effort. Now they are singular in their own right. They are at a level that we have not seen previously. But the ability for us to then see these local counsels being able to motive policies so quickly in the ways we have seen this week is not just about this moment. It is about the fact that what this moment proves is the thing that activists have been saying for six years, which is this is not just a moment. This is the 21st Century Movement for racial justice, and it is wellorganized. It is thoughtful. And it has a set of policy goals that it is trying to put forth. And it is also the reason why even though we dont give the movement for black lives credit, you have seen such a robust set of left policy discussions in the political arena this year. But the thing that we have been reminded of is those policy discussions dont stay in our at the top of mind politically unless people are in the streets. All important points. Danielle, take a listen to john lewis. Today i feel more lucky, more than lucky, more than blessed, but to be here, to see the changes that have occurred. To live to see a young man, a young friend like president barack obama become president of the United States of america. Were still paying. We cannot give up. We cannot give in or become bitter or hostile. Danielle, everyone understands having been beaten within an inch of his life what it means when he speaks about the pain he endured in not turning bitter. I wonder what you think about the inner generational aspect of this, because you have the john lewises. You have the obamas. You have reverend sharpton who spoke so movingly at the funeral and memorial, and who has been out working on all these issues along with Jesse Jackson and others. But you this newer, younger movement. New people, a Diverse Coalition that is out there now in addition. Yes. You know, i feel like when lewis says to not be bitter, he is telling people to not give up hope in their efforts in pushing this movement forward. He is telling them that its a good thing theyre taking to the streets and marching in the same tradition of the Civil Rights Movement in which he also marched and participated in. I feel like this is just a Pivotal Moment in our history. What were watching is amazing. Just a few moments before i went on the air with you, ari, there were actually protesters on the streets here in harlem chanting Breonna Taylors name. And they have been doing that regularly almost every night here in new york city. And its moving. The fact that this feels different this time, the fact that this is so wellorganized, the fact that its so deliberate and so continuous is monumental. You cant really escape from it. And that is whats most touching for me. That builds on something i want to bring britntney into. Youve been coming on this Program Since we began. Weve been having conversations about history and Structural Racism as well as other things that can be racist in their outcomes but may come from a more complex brew. Historically, i would say in the last five, ten years, a lot of that was viewed in a highly polarized way, and there are people who are concerned about those issues and said yep, thats a structural problem. A lot of people said no, youre emphasizing isolated incidents. We are seeing, and this is something were going continue to do on this program for viewers, we are seeing hard evidence that that is now shifting thanks to these sustained protests. So for your analysis, since weve had some of these conversations before, i want to show in 2014 americans were asked about these deaths of specifically black men as one issue. So if you look on the right there, you see is that basically an isolated incident . Yet half the country in 2014 say when black men are dying at the hands of police in these instances, thats isolated. That is to say thats just something out if there. And that number has crashed in 2020 to only a quarter of the country. That is a significant change. Another way the say that is when you look on your screen and see that surging tall 74 blue chart, thats tens of millions of people who now when asked say, brittney, they say actually, this is a broader problem. I wonder what you think as such an expert on social change what that means for the movement. Its one thing to say youre wrong, you dont get it, youre late. Its another thing to say come on in, welcome. Okay, its 2020. Now you see it. Lets go. Look, movements have always been welcoming. Weve never said that we didnt welcome people to the party. We wanted folks to have the right analysis. And so now heres the thing they want to say now. In between 2014 and 2020, the thing that gets you those percentages of millions of people coming on board, that span of that graph is littered with dead black people, though. Killed by the police. Thats the hard thing is what they told us in 2014 was that enough black people had not died yet. Now more black people have died and they have died on camera. Im relieved that we are seeing this sea change. I also think that it is amplified by the fact that the failures of the Trump Administration have been so stark, people have been stuck in their house. They have had this opportunity to really reflect on the state of the country, and they are like what the hell is happening, right . But essentially, thats what theyre saying, you know. And so now let me pause you. Let me pause you and then continue you. Youre also reflecting on another aspect of social change, which is do people have the time to learn . And when people are in busy lives or in economic underclass, they are prevented habitually from even getting all of that. So you have not only protests thats out here, but you have yes, a lot of people at home. You cant miss it. You cant ignore this. Between television and the internet, people are seeing this. Does that also underscore your point, brittney . Look, the black undereconomic class has been clear all the time. Lets say that. Sure. But look, i just want to give all the love to these young protesters who are literally risking their lives to call this country to account. I think that in the end, it is the visual both of us seeing george floyd dying. It is the commitment to the activists on the ground to breonna taylor. Lets not how the country experienced sandra bland on video in 2015, and we did not have this brown swell. And so in conjunction with these george floyd protests, now activists are taking heed to the thing that those of us in the earlier part of this movement said, which is you have to include the women too. I hope we see more of that. But all of this is because there has been an infrastructure that has been being built for the better part of a decade at this point to bring us to this moment. These activists are prepared. Theyre ready. Theyre politicized and theyre a force to be reckoned with. In a related turn, have either of you or both of you seen any of the last dance . Yes. I have not, im sorry. You dont have to apologize to me. I didnt make it. You are missing out, though. The beat viewers will know a lot of us on the program were big fans of it. It was well done. And it briefly touched on whether and how Michael Jordan weighed in on these issues. He had famously said as an offhand comment. He didnt say it at a press conference, but he said well, republicans buy sneakers too when he declined to get involved in a home state jesse helms race. And there is a lot of people, whatever their race who do enough big business where they kind of stay out of certain things precisely because they are seen, fairly or not, picking a side. So i think its pretty striking to show news that just came into the newsroom late today. Michael jordan, who famously avoids picking any political sides jumping into this protest movement by saying he and his company are now going to put 100 million towards racial equality organizations. Danielle . All i can say is its about time. Its not like these problems are new. They have existed since the first slave was taken off the boat, you know. There is a clear right and wrong here. Youre either for equality. Youre either for this nation living up to its ideals, or youre not. I dont see how you cannot have an opinion about this. I dont see how you cannot participate in this movement in some capacity, one shape form or another. You know, at the root, our writers have call this the fed up rising. People are tired. Theyve been putting up with this for hundreds of years, generation after generation has withstood this violence and have been forced to try to basically build and grow within chaos. Well, youre tempting me to quote bob marley, but i dont know if brittney wants me to go there. We know youre going to do it. Just go for it. She has been on the program enough to know. But in all seriousnesses, 400 years and its the same philosophy. There is a reason why this is a protest chant. This is in music, this is in poetry, this is in James Baldwin speech. Brittney, this is what if you are listening, this is what has been said forever. It is what has been said. But look, every generation must find their work and do it both france ferdinand and audrey have versions of that quote where they say that is the work of each generation. This generation is living up to their work, which is to call this country to account. What i appreciate about you bringing that up is there were always massive slave uprisings, and slave people didnt just take slave have i sitting down. There were always uprisingsed on transportation. Rosa parks wasnt the first person to sit down on a bus and refuse to get up. And there have been multiple generations in my lifetime rising up against these Police Violence cases whether were talking about eleanor bumper, whether were talking about rodney king, what were talking about amadou dalio, whether were talking about michael brown. This is a long continuous challenge. But i do think we have to give credit to these young folks and say they are taking the load of that history, and they are demanding that we reckon in ways that we simply have not before. And heres the thing. If the country get it this time, trump has something that we have not seen in decades. So what i know about black folks is when black folks come to the table and say yall better get it right, every time we do that at this level, the civil war is probably the last time. Civil war and civil rights. When we do that, the nation better listen because what we are saying is this thing is going to split apart at the seams unless you begin to Pay Attention to what black people are telling you. We have long been the conscience of this nation, even when we did not ask to be. And if the nation will listen to the demands that black folks make, here is my charge to white people, and im not often given to giving charges to white people. The thing that black folks are saying is our way is better for everybody. Everybody eats. People have justice. There is equality. When you treat the least of these rights, the folks with the least power, whether thats undocumented immigrants, whether thats black folks, whether thats indigenous folks, whether thats transwomen, when you treat them right, then the nation lives through. When you treat them wrong, you are always going to end up back at this place with this level of battle. Right. Youre speaking about the fundamentals thank you so much. Seven minutes in the hour. We have to fit in a break. When we come back, we have revelations how protests have led to more police valley. Why it matters. Youve probably seen some of it quoted. Later, the story of Michael Beschloss is here. And we have brandnew comments from barack obama himself. Stay with us. Himself. Stay with us that makes things worse. 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