As the numbs filled up our computers. The numbers have continued to come in. Steve has been sedated. We can now talk to him at the big board what more do we know about we didnt know at the top of the 5 00 . We can tell you, 62 of the precinctses in the state of iowa have been reported. It seems to have stablized so we can catch our breath. The question is where is the outstanding vote so we can take a look at this the larger the bubble is, the more precincts yet to come in. The biggest by far, des moines. This is polk county before the 20 of the state in terms of turnout and you see the most precincts here. What does it look like in polk . Sanders, 27, 26, warren, 21. These are the state delegate egie quegive lents. Again, youre seeing the statewide story. A 4point advantage over buttigieg on the first preference. They go through that process. Buttigieg benefiting more than sanders. You see barely half is in right there. There are in this county by far, there are 177 precincts in polk county. There are right now 84 of them have yet to report. Now, of those 84 counties in 2016, remember, sanders lost polk by 7 points to clinton in 2016. Of those 84, 42 of them voted for Hillary Clinton in 2016 over Bernie Sanders. 19 of them were for sanders over clinton. And 23 of them were perfect ties. 42, clinton, 19, sanders, 23 clinton. Thats what it was in the outstanding precincts in polk county will so were trying to find out if theres anything at and around drake university. Not in. Did i hear that right . The precincts around drake university, that would be probably advantage sanders, advantage warren. Shes doing well here, too. Weve seen the best in those places. Those are not in. So potentially sanders could run up some numbers. But i think polk is where the most outstanding votes are statewide. The advantage for buttigieg, 25 state delegates. About 2100 of these statewide so there are still more to come. Sanders would have to make that up and the story continues to be that on the first preference, sanders leads on the state delegates equivalents, buttigieg leads. Youre saying there are 84 separate precincts. 84 places where iowans gathered and talked about their preference thats weve got crickets from so far. Coming up on 24 hours and iowa cant tell as you thing about what they decided. In des moines, where the state Party Headquarters are, have they reported to the state and the state is still doing this manual you had a it . I think thats possible. It hasnt been released to us. So from polk county, we dont know right now. 84 still to come in. David, how did this happen . Well, hey, in the midst of this mess, lets call out steve. Looking at your little dots there. I think there are three counties that are in. Wow, i can hear champagne corks. Why did this happen . I think the original sin, people may disagree with this. I think it was forcing all these new sets of numbers to be reported. Clearly there was technological problems. My understanding is precinct officials didnt want to use the app. They wanted to call in like they always did. There was not the manpower, womanpower to take it. Weve talked about the caucuses, this is last time well see it. What does it mean to the race . Weve been talking about joe biden got out of iowa more cleanly than he might have otherwise. Pete buttigieg wont get the full measure of the victory. Bernie sanders did as well. I have to jump in and say, we have no idea. And 2016 had a lot of people saying more than they knew and thinking more than they knew. When we sit on television and say this wont be priced in, thats just what people on television and the party will do. I dont know. I will tell you this. The story has changed. The story right now is that Pete Buttigieg and Bernie Sanders are having a really good night in iowa. Instead of being able to say that at 10 00 p. M. , were saying at this time next night at 6 00 p. M. Look at this. It is fluid, kit change. Nbc news says it is too early to call. The big headline took a day to arrive. Mere it is. Buttigieg and sanders doing really well. Elizabeth warren who had started to be undervalued also coming in really well. Who would have told you a year bag Elizabeth Warren would be out ahead of joe biden . And in this polk county area, i lived in des moines and polk county. I ran 19 precincts in 2004. You know a lot about iowa. I disagree with you on the impact. Lets get into it. We have about 50 plus. We were talking about this in the commercial break. In polk county, the numbers were seeing, youre looking at the results in polk county. Sanders, 27. Warren, 21, biden, 15. What does that tell you . In the numbers still coming in, polk county is matching the numbers of the rest of the state. Translation, sanders and buttigieg having a good night in the early numbers and having a good night in polk county. The only difference i see thus far, fluid, it can change. Elizabeth warren is doing better in polk county than other parts of the state. It is the urban part of iowa. What were seeing is a big night for all three of them. And david can advise us on how and when it will matter. Running the eye was caucus before. It is what will happen in the rest of the primary . I dont know. Here it is, a great night for buttigieg and sanders and Elizabeth Warren beating expectations and coming in as a viable alternative to Bernie Sanders. Would you much rather be sanders or buttigieg than anyone else. We live in a world where information is on our phone every second. When frontrunners stumble, if they dont get full penalty, it matters. When youre the insurgent, the underdog, and ive led a campaign. Everything has to go right to win. So for mayor pete, even if he gets 50 to 75 , that will be a challenge. I think Bernie Sanders lost, he would have gone out. I think it probably mataries little less than the other candidates. So i think whats important is that probably the trends, and what you see in iowa, what could that mean . Nevada, south carolina. In terms of building the coalition. Thats important. Thats where we may agree a little bit. What were seeing here. Notwithstanding. He went out unknown, untestinged and had a really good night. Can buttigieg do that in other places . For the heart of the Democratic Party, theyve been discussing it. For the part of the Democratic Party looking for alternatives to Bernie Sanders, who also, ill saying, had a great night, the question here is, is Elizabeth Warren third here and well positioned elsewhere, is she that alternative . Lets bring in someone for whom this is not his first rodeo. James carville is with us. Your beloved party is having some issues, kind of the opposite of what lsu did this year. If this isnt a mess in iowa, as i said to claire mccaskill, it will do until the mess gets here. Other things worried me. Apparently the turnout is not what i would have expected. Others have spektexpected. The numbers are still coming in. The polling averages have not been very good the last ten days. And ive seen some pretty good polls that show enthusiasm among democrats is not as high as we would like it. So theres something as people are watching this process that is concerning. I do want to take a chance to congratulate mayor pete and his staff. That was a remarkable night they had in des moines. I think this is not going particularly well so far. W this party needs to wake up and make sure that we talk about things are relevant to people west need to go back to 2018 where we had good, diverse, strong candidates that had real connections and talked about real things. We dont need to become British Labor party. Thats a bad thing. Its not going well over there. So democrats, i want to say, dont these candidates, and mayor pete has something going. Hopefully senator warren can become that student at the university of houston, the one that knows the plights people go through. Who knows, maybe mayor mike can come on. But right now, i have to tell you. Im not very impressed. I have to say, james, im amazed at how often i hear democrats remindsing other democrats, if you dont win, none of it is worth anything. Without power, theres only one moral imperative in this country right now. And that is to beat donald trump. Thats the only moral imperative. It is the only thing i want to hear. Until we understand that, we win every argument. On anything. We dont win the elections because we talk about stuff that is not relevant. We had a great experience in 20 scene and the day after we started thought goofy stuff. Hopefully weve got time jerk this thing back and be about health care and drug prices and education and irastructure and climate and diplomacy. This is not happening so far. We cant act like this is going well. We cant come out and put three wonderful talking points. These campaigns have to be more relevant. For gosh sakes, senator warren, get real out here. You know, lets move this thing along. Weve got to do that. Joe biden barely fit on the graphic we have next to you. He came out of there in fourth place last night. What do you make of jk and his campaign . Hes had an honorable life in politics. All right . This is just not the time. So what has happened is, he blocked out access from my guy, michael bennett, my dear friend, governor bullock, from senator booker, probably some people that were going on run didnt run because he was in the race. And maybe hell come back. Hell have a difficult time. This is not a very good night for him to say the least. I dont know. Nancy pelosi. Thats my idea. Come on, speaker. Get somebody in there. I think this thing in milwaukee is not off to a good start. I see all kinds of things very concerning there. And im just looking at the mega polling averages. Im looking at Public Opinion right now. And frankly, weve got to snap back and get this things going. I dont want to think about what would happen if we had four more years of trump. As i always say, you cant run a whole foods race in what is still a Campbell Soup nation. Ari has a few questions for you. Good to see you. A big night. You look at the numbers we now have. More people showed up to their caucus sites, according to the new numbers, Bernie Sanders more than anyone else. Yada yada, he was basically now still vying for first with Pete Buttigieg. What does that tell but the enduring strength of Bernie Sanders in this primary going into New Hampshire where did he well last cycle . Are you the democrat that can get behind him if hes the nominee . Well, i get behind him. I have no choice. Look at the British Labor party. Were like talking about people voting from jail cells. Were talking about not having a border. I mean, come on, people. Every day people are out there struggling. You were saying you consider Bernie Sanders for open borders . For people voting . He said that we should give people a ticket. All right . Im saying what he said. If you read are brownstein, 35 trillion in spending, read all of it. Of course i would vote for him but i dont want Democratic Party of the United States to be the labor party of the united kingdom. Well bring back all of our panelists. The best bio ive seen in a president ial campaign. She had a very good critique which was that corruption is holding the country back. For some reason i dont know why, she decided to chase bernies left tail all over the country and became nobody for some exotic positions, to put it mildly. If she can get back to what shes about, i know her not well but shes a very smart, obviously, very smart. I think she understands. You can talk about what you talk about is your choice. And i just hope that she gets back to talking about being that afraid single mother going to the university of houston. Working. And knowing the struggles that people go through. And not be so program attic or anything else but say i have the skill to put this to work. To improve your life. And i think that would be good. I love her daycare plan. She has some things that she can do. She has a second wind here. Shed better, she has to get serious. James, youre about to hear from David Plouffe and others. James, good to see you. I want to go to the gentle election. I share your concern. You know the Electoral College exceedingly well. Best Case Scenario for us, what states are in play and do you fear in sanders is our nominee, were kind of down the a nor margin for error race . Okay, david. So sanders is our nominee. Im going on vote for him. The speaker holds on to the house. Of course we dont pick up the senate. 18 elects 52 of the senate. I have to remind him of. Do you know what will change . Nothing. The majority leader, the republicans controlled the federal courts. Come organizatin, people. Weve got a big election here. We should be able to take back the senate. We have to get relevant. This is all something that is not working the way that it needs to work. On they have to develop some skill. I dont criticize other consultants, some of the stuff they come one is insane. I dont know who thinks about this. Im going to play devils advocate for Bernie Sanders being the nominee. A lot of people come pair him. I say he might be closer to obrador in mexico. The existing parties have so disappointed everybody. People are disgusted with democrats. They dont go for republicans. Why do i think people are disgusted with democrats . We had the highest turnout in 2018 since women were granlth the right to vote. We had the biggest margin. We randal a Smart Campaign and it worked. It mat heres the candidate is. It matters what a party chooses to talk about. Im 75 years old. Why am i here doing this . Because i am scared to death. Lets get relevant here for sure. Okay. All of sanders people are taking pictures. They were yes. I dont want to go down that path. Okay. All ive got for you, james, this is claire. I just love you. I love you, too. Your analysis, if you look at the press corps went aoc crazy. In the caucuses, to combine the left side of the party, i dont consider myself a liberal. By the way. But klobuchar and buttigieg got lot of votes. We have to decide what we want only the. Do we want to be an ideological cult . Or to have the instinct to have the Majority Party . He know where you stand. You had to run in a red state. You and i know that 18 of the country elects 52 senators. The urban core wont get it double. What we need is power. Do you understand . Thats what this is about. Without power you have nothing. You just have talking points. In the martin corps they say wish in one sxhanld do something in the other. Which hand will fill up the fastest . Wed better get something. Get serious here. A lot of democrats around the country are concerned. I know these donors, they wont give a popsicle to the dnc right now. I can tell you that. We havent talked cynsince t holidays. As i said, that was a hell of a football game. It was really exciting, really fun. Those kids, theyre a terrific bunch of young people. And they are all doing really well. Im terribly proud of them and it was a good run. You know, well see where it goes. I just have to, i have to sounds the alarm here. Im sorry. Thank you for being with us and thank you for sharing. I thank your whole panel and everything else. And senator, i love you, too. Thank you, james. Thank you, james. From the great state of florida. That was bracing. I love it. I met James Carville once when i was in college. He came to do book signing. I think the message, which i agree with, it is the message that is very important for all these he centers left candidates to remember. America is not just these urban centers. It is not just liberal people. Black zpoek latinos arent just liberal. They are concerned about large scale progressive policies. This is an objective thing about sort of a sanders nomination. Sometimes revolutionaries care more about being right than winning. They want history to be on their side as opposed to controlling history. If you win power, you can change how history is written. Revolutionaries think they want history to prove them right. Heres the problem. Bernie sanders is very popular and a lot of people lecture to Bernie Sanders about why he wouldnt be popular. But hes more popular than most the Democratic Party is running. Not you a. The new numbers show him very popular. He was very popular last time when bed 48 of the Democratic Party. Mr. Carville just offered totally fair policy rebuttals about immigration. There will be a problem and i think well continue to see the Democratic Party. And im looking at you in the establishment. Ture establishment because you won. You put obama in office. The last democrat to be in the white house. How do you engage someone, right now are vying for first in iowa. I go back to the initial numbers because ill all about evidence. People walk in, more for bernie than anyone else and hes vying for first and he won New Hampshire last time and hes looking good in New Hampshire. How do you have that conversation without looking like the establishment and some of the people who havent even made hit the far assume they have more people behind them. It would seem like he and like trump has been underestimated by the system as it currently stands. The establishment system, everything with how the system rungs in iowa, the bernie people requested some of the transparency. Theyre looking at people feel it has been unfair. Whatever the establishment is these days, we decided to stop bernie. Thats probably the way to assure hes the nominee. Thats the wrong message. That wont work. It is the establishment trying to tell people. Slicked in the election, one of the things observed in 2008 and 12, the base of the party had moved further away from the electorate. So the gate to r