Intelligence committee marched to the floor with a warning. Do not remove bob mueller. A marked response. At the white house, the republicans celebrated the new tax law with President Trump. Senator warner clearly felt some reason to make this speech tonight. Now, he has never put it this starkly on the senate floor. He told the president , removing mueller is an abuse of power and every senator must stand against that together. I believe it is up to every member of this institution, republican or democrat, to make a clear and unambiguous statement that any attempt by this president to remove special counsel mueller from his position, or to pardon key witnesses in any effort to shield them from accountability, or shut down the investigation, would be a gross abuse of power and a flagrant violation of executive Branch Responsibilities and authorities. As for recent white house denials about any plot to remove mueller, he said the history surprised them on jim comey and they must draw a line. Im certain most of my colleagues believed he wouldnt fire jim comey either. These are red lines and we cannot allow them to be crossed. Red lines. That just happened about an hour ago on the senate floor. You may know about the context here. This speech comes after controversies over right wing media talking of, quote, a coup against trump this week. A discredited plot about assassination that was floated on fox news and then this. The stern responses from Justice Department veterans like eric holder who warned, there is an absolute red line and called for a massive resistance if that red line is crossed by removing mueller. If you dont follow news every day, no, this situation and tonights floor speech is unusual. Especially since mark warner has worked the chair of the committee on a pretty bipartisan approach to the russia probe. If do you follow news, you probably noticed this rising tension around this russia issue. Because at first, for months this year, team trump was stressing that they were cooperating with mueller. They shared the view that are trump did nothing sgrong would ultimately be vindicated. White house lawyer ty cobb says that all the time. In the last seven to ten days, these attacks on mueller have migrated from the comments section of breitbart to the halls of congress. Now people closest to the russia probe, like mark warner, people i should mention there reporting on they will, theyre not known for big angry emotional tirades. These are the people speaking out. I ask you, what do they know . Ill joined by congressman ted lue as well as prosecutor joy vance. I dont recall your colleague mark warner ever giving a speech on the russia probe like he ever gave an hour ago. I commend senator warner for making that speech. He is seeing the sail thing that were seeing here. A concerted effort by President Trumps allies to try to smear mueller. It goes from Kellyanne Conway to conservative media. And it is damaging to our democracy. It is also factually false. There are three leaders of the special investigation. Rod rosenstein, theyre all republicans. And chris gave 39,000 in Campaign Contributions exclusively to republicans. So this is not some sort of democratic special counsel investigation. Youre pointing to all of these public attacks. Some of them may be unseemly. They may give a decay or erosion. But i want to be clear, people have the right to make those attacks. People have the right to remove it. Is this more noise . Or is senator warner, eric holder, all of these people speaking out, an indication that we are on the precipice of something . So there are rumors, keep in mind the special counsel is getting closer and Robert Mueller would not have done a plea deal with Michael Flynn to go get people under Michael Flynn. They would have done that plea deal to get people above Michael Flynn. There are only a handful of people above michael zplin some of them are in the white house. I want to play with you much of what weve been naerg conservative media. The special counsel of Robert Muellers entire investigation west now know tonight is one giant cesspool. It is full of unbridled bias. The fix was in for donald trump from the beginning. They were pro hillary. They cant possibly be seen as transparent or even handed or fair. Right now, this investigation hes heading, has become irreparably tainted. The investigation was women icesed to destroy his it was weaponized for political purposes. If thats true, we have a coup on our hands in america. Well, let me read you a summary, the best summary ive seen. Theres something profoundly demeaning and destructive to have the white house systematically undermine an officer of the Justice Department. When i watched these hacks on television, to be honest, i am sickened by how unpatriotically they undermine the constitution of the United States on behalf of their client. Guess who that was . That was Newt Gingrich speaking about ken star. Now theyre doing exactly what they attacked in the 1990s. And it is just as disgusting now as it was then. It is so offensive and experience to suggest that Robert Mueller, this american hero, a man who served his country in vietnam, a lifelong prosecutor who doesnt have a partisan bone in his body, is somehow guilty of a coup against donald trump, that he is some kind of partisan zealot. It is so far removed from the truth. The fact so many republicans are saying these sthings a sign of how worried they are that in fact mueller is getting close the donald trump. And as a federal prosecutor, you understand how many lines are being crossed in that rhetoric. I wonder what you thought the speech here, i dont want to sound rude or judgmental. The thing you hear most on these issues the last several months, that he overly careful, he prefers to do briefings with the republican on the committee. I want to be clear for sounding off. And trump, according to the white house adviser, enjoys these attacks. Hes spoken to a number of fox news hosts, republicans and others. Senator warner is well known for his restraint. The fact he came forward and made this speech on the floor of the senate is very unusual. He said that it would be a red line if mueller were fired or pardons were issued for witnesses in the russia probe because they had uncovered so much evidence of linkages between campaign and russia. What is heart breaking forle in the Justice Department is watching this ping pong game going on beyond some people in the media some of the supporters of the president , with the real people in this country who have never worked in the Justice Department, are on the hill watching the back and forth. And unsure can. They trust bob mueller . Has that back politicized investigation . What comes through is people like warner. Known for his restraint. Or career d. Oshs j. Employees. Even the Newt Gingriches of the world. Nothing has really changed our ability to trust that integrity. Thats why senator warners speech is important. It is a good book end with the op ed written with sally yates earlier this week. She said we live in a time where we cant admire the court values from afar. Clearly drawing this line before you leave town but you are still leaving town. If there is in your view some action to undermine the investigation, on to do something in your view, what are you going to do . Leave home early . Come back to wash or whington . I believe theyll see that bob mueller will be fired. And keep in mind, donald trump cant actually fire Robert Mueller. He has to fire Rod Rosenstein and then put someone else in place to fire him. Youre referring to one path. The rules require that there is a finding of good cause. Even the nern charge, rosenstein, has to find that, and then that itself could become a controversy. You think based on rosensteins public coming, that he is going along with that plot. Not only that. But they said theres no good cause to fire Robert Mueller and he would not do it. And what would you do . Would you try to call him before the congress . People two hours ago werent going there. But people are starting to wonder, whats next if this were to start to happen . We would take to the streets. Try impeach are donald trump. If he wants to follow in the footsteps of richard nixon, hes ready to try. Im glad senator warner is speaking out but where are the republicans . This isnt be a partisan issue. The United States was attacked last year. The russians sought to undermine our election and we need to get to the bottom of it. Where are the republicans . One of them who has been pushing against mueller will be on the beat tonight. Well depose him live. And youll be here for some fact checking. And two, well hear after the break from some of the republicans who had what can only be described as slavish praise for their leader, donald trump, for an unusual event at the white house. What do you think about the d. O. J. . Everyone there takes an oath of duty. My expectation is that the career folks at the Justice Department will uphold that oath. That people like Rod Rosenstein will continue in that strong tradition and make sure we see justice done in this investigation like they have over the years. I think congressman lue, thank you. If there is news, i feel like i might end up working so we might the end up calling you if there is news. Coming up, the live interview. Plus, donald trump actually made a revelation during his remarks on taxes today about obamacare. Ill say why that matters. 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He is a man of action. We would not be standing here today if wasnt for you. Were going to make this the greatest presidency weve seen, not only in a generation but maybe ever. Some of the most revealing comments came from not all of those shoutouts but when donald trump admitted something that i have to tell you we did report on the beat earlier. It wasnt just about taxes. Today was about gutting obamacare. With this bill, not only do we have massive tax cuts and tax reform. We have essentially repealed obamacare. Obamacare has been repealed in this bill. We didnt want to bring it up. I told people, specifically, be quiet with the Fake News Media because i dont want them talking too much about it. Ending this insurance mandate could result in 13 Million People going out herring. Then theres kids. Congress got taxes done but republicans control the calendar. And now theyre going home before renew go the Health Care Program that covers 9 million children. Also left undone, the bannon promise, to reform lobbying which is as opposed to drain the swamp. Taxes are about math and math doesnt lie. Todays gop congress showed its priorities. Benefits for corporations come before Childrens Health care. And wasnt always this way. Republican senator orrin hatch started this Childrens Health program. Ive reported on that. Tonight i have to report that orrin hatch and Mitch Mcconnell are starting to end this childrens Health Care Program. And it is all in the math which reveals more than the speeches and the tweets. As we heard in the song mathematics, numbers is hard and real and they never have feelings. But you push too hard. Even numbers got limits. Why did one straw break the camels back . Heres the secret. The hundred other straws beneath it. Wheres the math . The math could be the key to winning back the majority next year. With me now, margaret, a columnist for the daily beast and a big fan. Christina, the mathematics. First of all, im very good at math. Im proud to say that and this doesnt add up. Legislation is a moral document. We know two things about this president. One, he doesnt read, and two, hes a liar. So we can look at this bill and know for a fact that millions upon millions of americans will be devastated by this. We know that members of congress are enriching themselves and their donors. We know many will take early retirement and and go make even more money, so widening the inequality gap in the country to levels we have never seen before. And then the next step is to blame the American Public to say, now we need to figure out how to pay for these things. This is most likely when democrats will regain the house or the senate. The republican theres lose some seats because of this. We will feel the effects of this. And then the republicans will go of a what paul ryan calls our entitlement. Social security, medicare, and other social network programs, which are giving us some sort of semblance of a democratic society. Small d. I understand. And margaret, you have the pr s president bragging about, that he tricked everybody. Why trick . If it was an obamacare repeal, it would have failed. What did you think of that moment of candor today . He certainly tricked senator Susan Collins but she may be the only person who believes the Alexander Murray bill that seeks to stabilize obamacare is ever going to pass the house and become law. You are putting it so kindly. Senator collins cosignecosigned. If you want to get something, you get it before the train leaves the station. Its christmas. Im trying to be kind and give they are benefit of the doubt. Its not going to happen. At some point, the deficit will matter again is thats when everything falls apart. Theyll cut medicaid, food stamps, theyll start being cutters again. You said numbers dont have feelings. I quoted yasim. I was hoping would you sing it. The feeling at the white house, there was a Cabinet Meeting earlier at which the cabinet members say how many they love trump. Youll remember he Reince Priebus saying he was blessed to be there. I dont know how he feels about that now. But then in the rose garden, you know, its totally now trumps Republican Party. Theyve thrown in the towel. And he is their leader. As orrin hatch said, he could be the greatest president ever. The hyperbole was just amazing to watch. But this may be the high point. This may be the happiest they ever are. The consequences, 13 million uninsured are going to come back to haunt them. And you talk about the haunting. These numbers im reading here he dont price into it. But you have that huge dem edge and who people want next year. 2018 i think will be a land mark year. We have unified government. Which means the republicans join the house, the senate and the presidency. If we look historically from fdr to the president , we can always see theres been some flipflop during the first Midterm Election after a new president comes into office. We saw obama. Remember, they said he got shellacked. That was in 2010. And well see this. There are a lot of people who support donald trump. Lets take racist white supremacist he wing of the party. They can only hang on to whiteness for so long. Pretty soon youll realize you need your jobs, your homes, your education. Then theres another group who hasnt thought about the math. They trust their officials to stoenld wash d. C. . And i have to fit in a break. They sold them down the river. They may not know that. Sooner or later, the math does get done. Straight ahead, the congressman who started this mule fire joins me. And the Republican Congress heaping praise. But one person wants you to be careful what you wish for. I take pictures of sunrises, but with my back pain i couldnt sleep and get up in time. 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Max boot warns that it cant just be ignored over this or that policy you like saying if you want the tax cuts and the judges, youve signed up for the lawlessness, something even close to treason. He writes, Trump Supporters own it all of this is an element. Saying donald trump was unfit for office. You would think he would aspire to be the president of the United States and act like a president of the United States. But thats just not going to be the case, apparently. Reckless, outrageous and undignified behavior has become the countenance of telling it like it is when it is actually just reckless, outrageous and undignified. Max booth is back. A former adviser to mccain and mitt romney. You vote how you vote in the senate. I worked in the senate many years ago. Thats their job. They cant stop voting just because they dont like the president. But they dont have to do what they did today in the rose garden. It is more like in some other countries around the world. What do you make of it . I think it is deeply disturbing. I dont hold it against republican thats they want to fast republican agenda and they seem donald trump as being an instrument of doing that. What i hold against them is that they averted their gaze from so much misconduct. So much shocking behavior. If it were committed by a democrat, they would be screaming and hollering at the top of their lungs. Because it is donald trump, they refuse to challenge him. It is ways that are just shocking to me as someone who grew up in the reagan era. This is not the kind of republicanism or conservatism that i signed up for and im aghast that so many publics are willing to go along, as trumpism redefines the party. Are their votes not enough . You can give him the key vote. Then you see orrin hatch going up there. What happened to orrin hatch . This guy is up there saying this donald Trump Presidency could be the best presidency in the world . Yes. Clearly, Everybody Knows that donald trump has a kim jongun level of flattery that he needs and theyre happy to deliver it. And theyre basically willing to leave their dignity and their independence at the door. And to me, thats like maybe the least of the offenses theyve committed. Theyre averting their gaze from his attempts to obstruct justice. Badmouthing mueller. His refusal to come to grim thats russia has attacked us. Are they refuse to come to grips with his unwillingness to condemn white nationalists. His embrace of an accused child molester for the senate. All of this, i could not possibly swallow this and theyre swallowing it. I think thats deeply unfortunate for they will and the Republican Party and for the country. We really need a center right party what we have is a cult of trump. A cult of trump. And a long way from a reluctant vote to principled opposition on certain issues, to going to the white house like we saw today. It was such a telling bout of fawning. If thats not too ungainly a phrase. Up ahead, the 9 million kids who arent getting help from this tax plan. Ill speak to a mother of two when the funding runs out. Plus, a top senator warning not to fire bob mueller. Ill interview a republican who has a different idea. Patrick woke up with back pain. But he has work to do. So he took aleve. If hed taken tylenol, hed be stopping for more pills right now. Only aleve has the strength to stop tough pain for up to 12 hours with just one pill. Aleve. All day strong. news anchor downtown traffic is still bad. Expect massive delays. news anchor 2 all lanes on highway 50 remain closed at this hour. news anchor 3 the stats are in and this city leads with some of the worst traffic, with the average driver sitting in gridlock the equivalent of three days a year. For every hour that youre idling in your car, youre sending about half a gallon of gasoline up in the air. That amounts, over the course of the week, to about 10 pounds of carbon dioxide. 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Who knew asphalt could help save the environment . lani and the possibilities are endless. Senator mark warner making waves with a big warning to trump saying firing mueller would be an abuse of power. It comes with attacks on mueller hitting a fever pitch. One of the republicans to first pick this fight on the house floor was congressman mark gates last month. I join my colleague, the senator from arizona, in calling for mr. Muellers resignation or his firing. It is federal law that even the appearance of a conflict of interest means that someone cannot engage in prosecutorial duties regarding allegations and investigations. Congressman matt gates there. He used an incendiary word that has picked up some steam this year. We are at risk of a coup d etat in this country if we allow an unaccountable person with no oversight to undermine the duly elected president of the United States. I would offer thats precisely whats happening with the indisputable conflicts of interest that are present with mr. Mueller and others at the department of justice. I join my colleague, the gentleman from arizona, in calling for mr. Muellers resignatires i resignation or his firing. Thanks for making the time. Im certain most of my colleagues believed he wouldnt fire jim comey either. These are truly red lines and simply cannot allow them to be crossed. Your response to senator warner, and why are so many publics trying to preempt the outcome of this investigation, rather than let this former republican fbi director conclude his investigation and see where the evidence lands . If senator warner isnt convinced now, i dont know what it will take. You have more than half the people who have donated to Hillary Clinton or barack obama. You have peter struck who was reallier central to Hillary Clinton. Not only does he have an intractable bias against the president. He actually had an accident plan against the United States. Deeming himself the great savior of the republic despite voters close donald trump. You have the wife of bruce orr working for fusion gps. The very company that went and generated this. So it seems as though everywhere we look, theres bias and it converts to packs you wouldnt be able to prosecute on. Youve named several people who arent in the probe like the fusion gps. When you look at the actual indictments, Paul Manafort who has been indicted for acting as an unregistered agent of a fortune government and for hiding all of that. Do you think thats a valid indictment . Why would you be against bob mueller indicting this person and having their day in court . Well, there is a real question as to whether there has already been prosecutorial misconduct. I asked the attorney general, the fbi director, when did we find out that there were these Text Messages with mr. Strock . Im asking you a question about the manafort indictment. Is there a good reason for the United States to pursue this case, which as you know, comes out of the Mueller Probe, which has documented evidence of Money Laundering or is it your view that it would be better for america to not have that case proceed . I think it depends on when mr. Mueller became aware of these conflicts of interest that have clearly affected investigation. If he knew he had evidence curated by people who could never be witnesses because of their bias and then he used that to get wiretaps to arrest people torsion muscle them into a plea deal, then yeah. There is so much discussion about people had a arent involved in the mule probe. Im talking about peter strong. The very person involved in the Mueller Probe and the clinton investigation. When you look at the manafort indictment, trying to understand. People say, if theres evidence of laundered money, he should have a day in court. He should be treated like anyone else. But any other person would be availed to the opportunity to have information disclosed to them, or to their attorney, if there is a witness, a fact gatherer, who would never be called as a consequence to the bias. So i dont know the time line about when mr. Mueller learned about these conflicts of interest. It is why were issuing subpoenas and why the American People want answers on who was involved in gathering evidence. As you know, mueller is overseen by the acting attorney general for russia, Rod Rosenstein. Heres what the white house said about his credentials. Rod rosenstein who everybody across the board has unequivocally said, this guy is a man of outstanding character and the Gold Standard at the department of justice. Thats the republican appointee who has stood by mueller as recently has the week. What specific evidence do you have against rod rosen stein or do you just not like that hes letting mueller do his job . I specifically asked when he became aware of the fusion gps dossier and nellie orr. And he said he didnt know the answer to that question. I find that completely inconceivable that rosenstein would show you to the Judiciary Committee again, you make so many charges against so many people. Anyone watching the show, wow, youve discovered the hidden secret of all these names theyve never heard of. I think people have heard about them. Hold on. The question youre not answering now, and youll get a chance to answer, do you have specific evidence against Rod Rosenstein who has said mueller is doing a good job who was appointed by donald trump, or is this a secret conspiracy . And it goes up to bob mueller and the Republican Attorney general but you dont have anything on him . What is your specific concern about rosenstein . My specific concern about rosenstein is that he was not forthcoming with information before the Judiciary Committee that were absolutely certain that he has. Come on. Im accuse go him of withholding evidence that should be in the possession of the Judiciary Committee. I dont think that he purposefully lied. You dont think he lied. No. I think that he withheld information that would illuminate further conflicts of interest. So he didnt do anything wrong. I think he withheld information. I think thats something wrong. Thats an indictment before the Judiciary Committee. He was not forth coming about the information he knew about the links of people actually colluding with russia. So again, there are so many things get said. The facts are very important here and theyre important on this show. What are you alleging about rosenstein . He did not tell the Judiciary Committee what information we are certain he has regarding the nexus between people at the fbi, in the Mueller Probe, and at the department of justice. That means what . Youre saying it is not perjury, it is not withheld. So our viewers understand what your position is. Are you saying he should be removed from overseeing the case . No. Im not saying that. Ill saying we need to have subpoenas issued to get documents and answers so the American People know how their tax money was used and if their own government was working the subvert the very president they elected in a fair election. Thats what we need to know. Thats why were issuing subpoenas. Thats why Andrew Mccabe will be giving testimony tomorrow. And what you learned, what your colleagues do, it is important to us so i would be happy to have you back. And as always, i appreciate your time here on the beat. Thank you. Coming up, donald trump celebrating the tax cut for the wealthy. What about the children . When you have a cold, stuff happens. { sneezing ] shut down cold symptoms fast [ coughing ] with maximum strength alka seltzer plus liquid gels. We are the tv doctors of america, and we may not know much about medicine, but we know a lot about drama. 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What happens if she breaks her arm, or for us, to keep him alive. I think everybody would be outraged. It is very important. Just as important as school. Those are real people. In a moment, ill speak with more of those affected. Her two children are covered directly through trip along with the pediatrician. Pennsylvania, one of 16 states that would run out of chip money by january. First, i go to Connecticut Governor dan malloy. Congress did claim they would act by this week. They are not. How is that failure hitting your state . Well, weve started giving notice to the folks who have these 17,000 children in our state. You as a state, youve had to start telling people you dont think it will boring out. Well, yeah. We have to prepare them. There are steps they can take to access potentially other news. But most wont be able to do that. So were letting everyone know that this program runs out of money on january, at the end of january. Were going to cut off people coming into the program as of december 23rd. So well take no new enrollees after that point. And this is 17,000 children who otherwise would not have access to health care. Many of these children with chronic conditions. This is devastating. And the idea that you have a bunch of people going to the white house to yuck it up and tell the president how great he is, but theyve cut off 9 million children from health care, makes no sense. Where will these children end up . At the emergency room where some of the most expensive care is given to a where will these children end be up . Theyll end up at the emergency room where some of the most expensive care is given on a nonreimbursed basis to the hospital. It makes no sense. Its bad for our economy. To see people celebrating what they did today to give away a trillion and a half dollars to very wealthy people and then turn your back on 9 million children in our country in a program that is 20 years old is disgraceful and they should be ashamed of themselves. Yeah. Strong words, and i understand where youre coming from, particularly when you look at the priorities revealed. Its something that used to be bipartisan. This also though i think is starting to break through in the culture. This was jimmy kimmel talking about this very contrast you just discussed. Ive had enough of this. I dont know what could be more disgusting than putting a tax cut that mostly goes to rich people ahead of the lives of children. Why has it been funded. If these were potato chips they were taking away from us we would be marching on washington with pitch forks and spears right now. I know a lot of things have been happening, have you seen people talk about chip and what happens in your state . Were talking about a special guy who has taken his personal experience and applying it to the country. Have you ever seen washington in the state its in . Have you ever seen as your last guest was making up things and trying to throw aspersions on mr. Mueller. Weird things are happening, but the weirdest one right now is they will not renew a program 20 years old that has saved lives, cut costs and kept families together. They wont renew that, but theyll give billionaires billions of dollars. And it is, its that stark. Governor, i know you know, i will say this. We talked to chief executives who sometimes say theyll only appear in interviews alone but when we mentioned to you we wanted to bring in real people to the conversation you were very welcoming to that. I appreciate that. As promised, i want to bring in ariel houghton who is covered by chip and her pediatrician. Walk us through what this means for your kids. Well, chip is a very Important Program for my family. I mean, what it means for me is that i know that i can take my kids to the doctor without having to pay a very expensive copay, and, you know, sometimes if you have to pay like 150, you ask yourself the question, like is my child sick enough to go to the doctor . And if you wait, sometimes that can be very dangerous for your child. Yeah. Just like in my family there have been two cases where waiting would have been very dangerous. My daughter when she was 2, she had a rash on her face and a fever, but nothing too nothing too serious or grave. But when we took her to the doctor, they said that she had lyme disease and had to be treated with antibiotics immediately, right . You know there is a certain window for treating lyme disease and a similar situation with my son. I mean, he was only four days old and he seemed a little like tired. He wasnt eating very well so, again, i just had this feeling that i should take him to the doctor, and i did because i could, right . Right. And the doctor looked at him and said, he looks a little yellow. He might have jaundice. Lets get his hemoglobin tested and we were on our way home and the doctor called me and said, you have to go to the hospital right away. Your childs bilirubin levels are very high and if you wait any longer he might have brain damage. Wow. Dr. Wollen, can you speak to this in the planning process . Because it seems obviously counter productive for congress to do this in a way that adds uncertainty that otherwise wouldnt be there. Yeah, ari, the uncertainty is the key. I dont know what to tell families. Ariel and i have talked before. I dont know what to tell them. Usually if its a matter of getting help for a child that needs care for developmental issue, acute illness or cancer, right, i have Additional Resources for families. Chip is that fall back place, that additional resource. Theres no backup to chip. So families that dont make enough to have a good health plan, they make too much to get medicaid, this is the backup plan. If you get rid of this, theres literally nothing. I have nothing to offer her or any other family who says, what do we do now . I dont know what to tell them. Governor . Well, i mean, the doctor both of these people are spot on. What ends up happening in these situations, and clearly what was happening before 20 years ago when chip came about is people didnt get treatment, their children got sicker and had very expensive treatment or died. Before this program there were not these options. By the way, i want to be very clear that the vast, vast majority of people who are receiving this benefit are from working families, but they dont make enough money to afford right. Other policies. Right. Now well try to hook one of our things in connecticut, were going to review everybodys policy and try to give them options. Right. 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