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MSNBCW The 11th Hour February 9, 2022

0 we're a few seconds into overtime, so that is tonight's last word. the 11th hour starts now. >> >> good evening, i'm chris jansing, it's day 385 of the biden administration. the republican parties divide over the january 6th insurrection appears to be deepening. justices gop members are intensifying their efforts to take back the house and senate. today, senate minority leader mitch mcconnell publicly rejected the republican national committee's resolution that censured liz cheney and adam kinzinger for their work on the january 6th committee. mcconnell also pushed back on the rnc's characterization of the capital riot as, quote, legitimate political discourse. >> we are here, we are here. we saw what happened. it was a violent insurrection with a purpose of trying to prevent the peaceful transfer of power after a legitimately certified election from one administration to the next. that is what it was. whether or not the hour and see should be singling out members of our party who may have different views of the majority, that is not the job of the rnc. >> we were here, we saw what happened. but mcconnell's counterpart in the house, minority leader kevin mccarthy, today defended the rnc censure, which was largely backed by allies of donald trump. >> [inaudible] everybody knows [inaudible] caused the damage. that's what we said from the very beginning. [inaudible] about this, the six rnc members from [inaudible] who were subpoenaed and were in florida were not even there that day. >> mccarthy could eventually be the target of a subpoena and is a target of the committee. rudy giuliani was asked for testimony and documents and move to have mark meadows referred to the justice department after he failed to appear for a deposition. tonight, committee chair bennie thompson told nbc news that the committee is focused on the next steps for both men. >> we know giuliani obviously didn't show up for deposition today. what is the plan? >> we will discuss that in our friday meeting. >> our subpoenas on the table? >> subpoenas are always on the table for discussion. >> you mentioned yesterday that mark meadows might be more central than he seemed before you. since communication broke down have been finding out more in all this? >> well, we would want to see based on some of the material whether or not there is information in that that we could perhaps ty meadows even closer with. although, as you know, we've already made a referral to doj. so, he can always say, look, i'm ready to talk. >> do you revoke the referral? >> if we got an inkling that mr. meadows would want to talk, then we would probably make the request to doj to defer until that conversation occurred. >> thompson also said that former trump doj official jeffrey clark to the fit a bunch when he spoke to the committee last week. the chair said that members are now talking about possible immunity for witnesses who plead the fifth. meanwhile, nbc news reports that investigators have learned trump demanded to talk to his vice president on the phone on the sixth. but he can't reach him? there is also new information tonight before the those e downtown t so whil bor >> do you revoke the referral? >> if we got an inkling that mr. meadows would want to talk, then we would probably make the request to doj to defer until that conversation occurred. >> thompson also said that former trump doj official jeffrey clark to the fit a bunch when he spoke to the committee last week. the chair said that members are now talking about possible immunity for witnesses who plead the fifth. meanwhile, nbc news reports that investigators have learned trump demanded to talk to his vice president on the phone on the sixth. but he can't reach him? there is also new information tonight on the role of extremist groups leading to the sixth. sources tell nbc news that house investigators are scrutinizing rallies as far back as a year before the capitol riot in an effort to identify a broader network of causes of the attack, zeroing in on members of domestic extremist moments movements like the oath keepers and proud boys. those events could include armed rallies and stop the steal rallies before january 6th. and then the word is that there is investigation of a meeting on january 5th, 2021, in the downtown washington d.c. garage. it happened between stewart rhodes, the now indicted founder of the oath keepers, and other far-right groups. meantime, there is the pressing business of actually running the federal government and today the house approved a spending measure. that measure now goes to the senate. >> i intend to the senate to have it taken up quickly and in time. so while negotiations are a full year before the agreement is continuing, we will in the meantime avoid costly and when this government shutdown. >> diplomatic efforts to avoid a war in ukraine also moved forward today. french president emmanuel macron met with president zelensky in kyiv. president putin has so far showed no signs of removing the troops alongside the ukrainian border. macron says putin said there were no plans to escalate the crisis. but there is pushback on suggestion of progress. with that, let's bring in our lead off guests, yamiche alcindor, anchor moderator of "washington week" on pbs and contributor for msnbc and nbc. alexi mccammond, political reporter for axios. barb mcquade, a veteran federal prosecutor and former u.s. attorney for the eastern district of new york. she worked with usa during the biden transition and he's a professor at the university of michigan law school. she co-hosts the podcasts "sisters in law". great to see. well yamiche, there is a rejection of the rnc language. a person who spoke to mcconnell said he was frustrated that the party was focused on the only liability we have when he believes republicans are otherwise well positioned to win in the november midterms. talk about the liability that you are hearing about. >> while mcconnell is saying is that the republican party is continuing to be the party of trump but it is now the party of insurrectionists. after january six on number of republicans resign. you saw people, though they were not backing the idea of impeaching trump, they were saying it was wrong to break into the u.s. capitol. now you see the rnc call this legitimate political discourse. and mcconnell is saying we should not be tied to these attackers as republicans. that being said, in some ways it's a losing battle. you had the republicans who, while continuing to lie about the election, they could at least say it is wrong to beat a police officer, it is wrong to break the law. it is wrong for people to trespass and try to bring american democracy to its knees. and now, you have a republican party that is backing even that sort of behavior. and i don't think it's a coincidence because it is all happening after vice president mike pence said very clearly that trump is wrong and you cannot overturn an election. so i think this is a growing rift in the republican party but i can also tell you that i talked to conservatives. and this is still a party that is led by former president donald trump. even with mcconnell saying this, he is in some ways still going against the majority of the republican party and certainly the republican base. >> yeah, the majority have not come out and announce this kind of language. barbara, the january 6th committee does appear to be focused on certain people like giuliani and meadows. as well as those groups on the right.

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