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Watching symone. Im charles enforcement sanderstownsend. Crisis averted, even though no one got everything they wanted, President Biden says americans got what they needed in the debt ceiling bill. Today, the president signed the bill into law. We are talking to the democratic lawmaker about why she voted against it, and what happens next. And republican primaries are about to get more crowded. Some highprofile republicans are jumping in next week. Will that hurt donald trump, or enable donald trump . Our Political Panel ways and. Now, trump may be riding high on the campaign trail, but the thing that could be dragging him down, legal troubles. The Special Counsel in the classified documents case has obtained a recording of trump discussing a document he kept after leaving office. Trumps lawyers said they havent found it. We will unpack what all of that means for the investigation, as you can see, we have a lot to talk about. A resolution to the monthslong a Debt Limit Debate finally made it to the resolute desk. President biden signed legislation to raise the debt ceiling today, avoiding a National Financial crisis. Heres how the deal ended up. In exchange for raising the debt ceiling at it keeps domestic spending at its 2023 levels the legislation also work requirement age for adults receiving snap benefits, or food stamps to 54 years old, but accepts veterans and homeless people. The bill calls back and covid funds and and skills back expanded funding for the irs. The deal spares americans from the economic calamity of a debt default, lawmakers on both sides of the aisle have expressed their misgivings. Some progressives objected to Biden Negotiating on the debt in the first place, especially when it comes to restricting access to food stamps. But, in his first address from the Oval Office Last night, President Biden emphasized this concession. Scaling back increased funding for the iris. We almost have to raves revenue and go after tax and make sure everyone is paying their fair share. No one making less than 400,000 a year will pay anyone federal taxes. Most of you at home, i know the federal tax system isnt fair. Thats why last year i secured more funding to get more iris funding to go after wealthy tax cheats. Republicans may not like it, but i am going to make sure the wealthy pay their fair share. Republicans were insistent on at least two elements of this legislation. Restricting low income americans access to food with work requirements, and preventing the irs from making more of the highest income americans pay what they owe. In case you thought this was actually about fiscal responsibility, the ceo projects that the irs funding will decrease revenue by 2. 3 billion dollars over the next ten years. Wiping out the relatively paltry savings from work requirements. All thanks to that ageold republican deference to the ultra wealthy. So, what does this long awaited deal mean for our fiscal future . Joining me now to discuss, democratic congresswoman from texas jasmine crockett, welcome congresswoman caracas. You were one of 46 House Democrats who voted against this bill. What was your biggest concern about it . Okay. So first of all, its great to see you. Second of all, i do want to be clear, because i think that theres been this misconception that somehow progressives were voting against this bill and it was the same thing as ants that cannot be further from the truth. I want every person that is watching right now to understand that a no vote from the progressives was only after we did something that the republicans are not gonna, which is count. So, we did not count our votes until we knew that we were in the clear. But we also did not want to give the false impression that this is how business is supposed to be conducted, nor do we want to give the false impression that this was a good thing. That does not mean that im against the president , the president did everything that he could in a hostage negotiation situation. But the reality is that for me to sit there and say yes, you had a gun pointed at my head, now let me give you all of the thumbs up because thats how we did it, no. Thats not right. Thats not what is normal. It is not normal to put a gun to our heads over Something Like the debt ceiling. With the republicans did not want to do is go through the appropriations process, which let me remind everyone, they are in control. They have the majority in the house. But they never put forth a budget. And you laid it out as clear as day. This was simply about making sure that rich folks didnt have to do their part in this country and poor folks had it even harder. Coming from a district where 20 of my district live at or below poverty, for me, it makes sense for me to say no, especially with the data that we had. It specifically said that black women were going to be the ones that were going to be hurt the most as it relates to snap, even though there was an expansion. You cant just trade out and at other folk and say its okay. Thats not what we do. In the end, how do you see this . Is this a bipartisan win for biden, or is it a show of strength for mccarthy . I dont know. I guess it depends on how you look at it. What i can say is that the American People won and lost at the same time. Thats the reality of it. They won because the greatest threat was the fact that these people were willing to default, not one progressive was willing to default, period. At the same time, we lost. There were things that we lost and for people who dont understand, progressives are absolutely behind the president and his agenda. You just talked about the cbo and im glad that you brought that up because that was one of the really other big issues, right . Was the fact that his agenda gave at the irs 80 billion dollars. What they did has brought back 20 billion dollars, and the way that you properly claw back funds would be by passing legislation. But we know that they would never get that through the house as well as the senate, and avoid the veto. So therefore, they decided that they were going to do that this way. I want americans to understand that this is not how we conduct business in this country, and so i think that is why you saw and that there were those that could vote, because of their districts, and felt it necessary to vote a certain way. But none of us were 40 faults and to be clear, we all, 213 of us had signed a Discharge Position for a clean raising of the debt ceiling. We only needed five republicans who had a little bit of courage to do the right thing. I very much understand this concept of voting the way you did on a principle, because you knew the people that would be hurt by it. Some of your democratic colleagues have expressed misgivings that the white house was too deferential to republicans and negotiating this deal, and that there should have been more communication with congressional democrats. Do you share that opinion, and if so, how are you and your colleagues going to ensure that the same time endemic doesnt unfold in the budget talks . Yeah. So the budget talks, i have no idea of where that is going to end, because of the Budget Process is one of the most complicated if not the most complicated thing that we do in congress. I will point out that our Ranking Member on appropriations voted against this. And she spoke out a vigorously about how this was tying our hands. I also want the American People to understand that the number, the Bottom Line Number was kept the same of what we had in 23. But, within that number, we saw a Defense Spending be increased. If the number is the same and defense went up, what did that mean . Non defenses going down. When we look at nondefense, these are the things that affect your everyday life. This is the funding for the things that every day americans rely upon. And so we have decided, we dont have all the specifics. One is going to go up, what is going to go down. I wont pretend to have been in that room and be able to say what i would have done. Because the American People have not elected me president of the united states. What i will say, is that the republicans were rogue in this process, in deciding to do this. And if they were doing it for their constituency, i would at least have respect for it. But the reality is that the fights that we were fighting, the fights that we waged, they actually are going to help more republican constituents than the republicans were helping them. Because if you want to talk about s. N. A. P. Benefits, and who is using the vast majority of s. N. A. P. Benefits, it is rural right americans. Im sorry, but when we look at democratic districts, they typically dont look like rural white america. So just to be clear, the fights that we were waging werent just for our constituents. They were for everyone, and at this point in time all i can say is that i trust the president and he made sure that our government was kept open. Texas congresswoman jasmine crockett, always good to see you and you talk to you. Thank you so much for coming in today. Look out. Theres a tank. Up next, the recording that torpedoes Donald Trumps defense in his case of handling of classified documents. But first, it has todays other top news story. Richard . A very good afternoon to you. And investigation was launched into one of the worst Rail Disasters in indias history. 288 people were killed and more than 800 injured when two Passenger Trains derailed friday. Each train had more than 1000 passengers. Prime minister visiting the crash site, and survivors today. 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To receive 1000 off your kohler® walkin bath. And take advantage of our low Monthly Payment financing. Were back now, and the investigation into former president Donald Trumps handling of classified documents took yet another term this week. Trump was caught on tape acknowledging he took a classified document related to iran from his time in the white house, according to sources familiar with the matter. This essentially undercuts trumps claim that he declassified documents. He took. The Special Counsels office obtained the reporting from 2021. But when the Trump Legal Team went looking for the document at the request of the justice department, they couldnt find it. Thats very convenient. All of this as the Department Of Justice has closed its investigation into trumps former Vice President mike pence for his own handling of classified documents, discovered at his indiana home without charging him. I want to bring in msnbc legal analyst and former new york prosecutor cf coleman jr. I want to start with trump and this recording. The former president s legal team says they cant find any record of the classified material that trump described. But, its also unclear whether or not the prosecutors have been able to track it down. So, its about to just be out there somewhere or trump might have been incorrectly describing it or just lying about it. If they cant find the document, is trumps best defense that his lawyers basically say, listen, everyone knows that trump doesnt always Tell The Truth and he is just exaggerating again . I wont go that far, charles. I would say that them not being able to find the document does in some cases hurt that specific aspect of what it is that theyre trying to establish in this case. But its important to understand that donald trump has said so much and done so much, and theres so much other theres so many different other things that support the timeline here that quite frankly, prosecutors dont necessarily need this smoking gun because they have so many others. So well in most cases you would be concerned if there was no physical evidence that is found to support or corroborate what is being said on a tape like this, prosecutors like jack smith know that they have more than enough other things to go on to move forward with a prosecution and indictment. With respect to the maralago case. So it would be something that would be a significant concern under normal circumstances, but there is just so much else to go on and that they could actually rely on it to move forward with this prosecution. Charles, trump himself has not been silent on the many investigations into him since he left office. I want you to take a listen to what he had to say on this one in an interview with fox news is sean hannity. News broke yesterday that there might be a Tape Recording that you acknowledged that you understood that these were classified documents. First of all, do you know who this coal might be with . I dont know anything about it. All i know is this. Everything i did was right. Charles, if you were Trump Lawyers at this point, i about continuing to publicly address these allegations and the investigations, especially now that he is running for office again in 2024 . You know charles, you talked about previous conversations about trumps attorneys and what it is they are doing from the standpoint. And i think that if you signed up to represent donald trump you need to understand that you are going to spend the duration of your period representing him in a scramble sort of posture. And i think part of the reason why that is is that we have a client who refuses to accept and abide by your advice. I do not think for any stress that Donald Trumps attorneys told him hey, its okay, talk to these public, do the interviews, i think hes been advised repeatedly, do not open your mouth about these pending investigations or the pending case thats going on in manhattan. Do not talk about these legal issues. Avoid the conversations. But yet, they know they also have a very typical client who was sub bird, will not listen, thinks he knows better than they do, and leaves them with messes to clean up. He has no aversion to making the degree of difficulty much higher for his attorneys as compared to most normal clients. And so his attorneys have no doubt advised him, charles, stop talking about this. You are only digging yourself into a deeper hole. But he refuses, and ultimately he is going to have to play the part in a court of law. And difficult client is one way to put it. Finally, i want to ask you this. The Washington Post reports that the investigation in Fulton County, georgia, looking into election interference by the former president and his allies is now broadening to include activities in washington, d. C. , and several other states. I what could this expansion tell us about where trumps legal problems are going . Not in the right direction. I think we have known that for a very long time.

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