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the same drug they are using in dallas on thomas eric duncan there. they came to the conclusion chose this with card nation of the fda and cdc and their assessment of his current condition that this is the best option they have right now. they will continue to look at other options as they see how he responds to this drug. but that is the treatment that has begun. we do know he is continuing to have problems with nausea. before he left liberia, he was able to eat and drink on his own, but the problems are continuing and getting worse, it seems. yesterday during the day, he felt well enough to ask for something for dinner, but when the food came yesterday evening, he didn't feel up to eating. that continues to be the main problem apparently. his father said he continues to be nausiate and has diarrhea and doctors did warn us or say his symptoms were likely to get worse before they got better as this disease ran its course. ronan? >> troubles news there. thanks if are keeping an eye out for us. tell us about the rest of the team. how is dr. nancy doing? >>. >> reporter: dr. nancy and her team did arrive back in the united states last night aboard a charter flight and were met by medical officials and they are in good health. they are feeling well. they have been deemed to be low risk, but still because they are continuing to stay at home for the remainder of the 21-day period that 348 officials advise and they are take their temperatures twice a day, but so far, so good. ronan? >> thank you so much. really appreciate that update. we are of course watching another individual story here in dallas. that is the case of thomas eric duncan, the first individual to be diagnosed on u.s. soil with ebola. he is also receiving that experimental drug. that is proving effective in lab tests with his blood, but it is unknown how it will work in a practical application. here with the latest is dave from the cdc. thank you so much for taking the time. first of all, i have a quick update on what you know about this individual case, thomas eric duncan. do we have a reason to believe this drug could be dangerous or do we have an update on how he is receiving the drug? >> there is not a great deal on it right now. it's given with the permission of the family and they announced on saturday for the first time. >> we will be watching that for the first time. tracking down anyone who came into contact with thomas eric duncan. >> yes, sir. thomas has been clear on that. we have to do active surveillance and seeing every contact trace once a day. making sure we take the temperature and ask about symptoms and continue to ask questions about who they might have had contact with. >> what are you providing for individuals who are being monitored? >> you call before you go over there and make sure they have no symptoms. you maintain three feet of distance. they are doing things like i know today, i overheard them a ranging ipads. they are working on getting them ipads and cell phones. anything we can do. >> your team is not normally based here. you came out for the operation. how is the team holding up. >> the team is a lot like you guys. very little sleep. they are an amazing team and they are working until 2:00 or 3:00 in the morning. very early.=q >> thank you for your service. we are keeping you in our thoughts. there is so much concern over the lack of availability of zmapp available in the earlier cases of treatment. that is no longer available and that's why this other drug is being used. is the cdc redoubling efforts to get more zmapp? >> you are right. there is not any zmapp left, but we don't even know if it's effective. we have a care team that stays plugged in. that team is based in atlanta. >> thank you very much. >> my pleasure. >> making sure there is no spread of this disease in dallas and there is concern all-around the country of turning into a national question of whether we need to close our borders more, coming out of the white house and here to look at the national com ponent and separating fact from fiction as people decide how worried they should be of their families. thank you so much. it's good to see you again. >> good to be with you. >> so doctor, of the current experimental treatments being used, do you see the potential for any of these to be the long-term widely available course of treatment? >> it's too early to tell. as you heard, they are all in the experimental stage. none has been used enough to be able to determine if it works and is effective in the human and if it does harm. we are at that stage where we are really in the experimental stage. we don't have any more zmapp. it will be ready with another lot in about a month and a half. it's available on an experimental basis, but we don't know if it works. it's too early to say which is better than the other if any. >> we just heard word that they are working on new more robust rules for screening. how important is that? what is going on now is exit screening. if someone wants to travel to the united states, they get their temperature taken and if they have come to their knowledge with contact with an ebola patient and what is on the table and has been discussed at the white house meeting, should there be another layer of screening which we call entry screening. when people get here on arrival, should you do anything different? should you retake their temperature again? should you question them in a similar manner when they have the exit screen something those are the things that are up for serious consideration. >> here's what foreign policy magazine said. nothing could be a quicker game changer than an ebola screening test. is the science where we need it to be to screen for the disease? >> i think so. the issue with ebola is that when you get infected, there is a period of time before you get symptoms. before you get symptoms, you don't detect the virus. that's the bad news. you can't detect it even if the person is infected. when they get a fever or start getting physical symptoms, that's when you can detect the virus. the good news is when someone is without symptoms, they can't transmit the virus. the virus is at such a low level that it's unable to infect anyone else. we do have very sensitive tests to determine if the virus is there when it gets to the point that it's high enough to be able to detect. in light of that fact, should people calm down? >> well, first of all i want to say the fears are understandable. we respect that fear and we understand it. the thing that people need to understand is that what we try to say over and over again. we can control any outbreak. we now have a person, mr. duncan who came in unexpectedly, inadvertently into the country. it is conceivable that we'll have more people who get bo the country. when you contact trace the people with whom they come into contact, you can prevent an outbreak. the messages that i and my colleagues and dr. friedin and others are trying to say, we take this seriously. if you do the right thing and do the appropriate contact tracing and put the person in isolation, we won't have an outbreak. that is going on in dallas. the contact tracing is going on the way it should according to the appropriate protocol. do you think there is no longer a risk that the hospitals will mishandle the situation when is the next thomas duncans come along? >> we would hope there would not be more missteps. it happened and we need to realize there was a misstep and looking forward, hopefully that would be a lesson learned to make people more aware of how you handle someone who comes in with symptoms that are compatible with ebola. you need to ask them a travel history and if they give you a travel history originating from west africa, you act accordingly. the cdc has been good about putting out announcements and health alert net, works that tell people in the emergency room and the clinic that they really need to make sure they do take a travel history. >> obviously an important message for hospitals to hear right now. a lot of worries about whether there enough resources to prevent more mishandlings. appreciate your work in this response. we are actually awaiting and we just got news of a cdc briefing at 3:00 p.m. we should get an update and we will follow all the news and bring you anything that ams can out of it right here on msnbc. stay here for this program after this break. we interview the man at the heart of the clean up effort of the apartment that thomas eric duncan wrestled with ebola in. should be interesting. something he volunteered for. stay with us for that. americans drink 48 billion bottles of water every year. that's enough plastic bottles to stretch around the earth 230 times. each brita filter can replace 300 of those. clean. clear. brita water. nothing is better. for medicare. the annual enrollment period is now open. now is the time to find the coverage that's right for you ...at the right price. the way to do that is to explore your options. you can spend hours doing that yourself ... or you can call healthmarkets ... and let us do the legwork for you - with no cost or obligation. we'll search a variety of plans from nationally recognized companies to find the coverage that's the best fit for you ... at a price that fits your budget. and we'll do it at no charge to you. you can talk to us over the phone ... or meet with a local licensed representative in person. why pay a penny more than you have to for insurance policy. in the past 3 years, healthmarkets insurance agency has enrolled americans in more than 1.1 million insurance polices ... put our free service to work for you at no charge. call now and let healthmarkets find the right medicare plan for you - without cost or obligation. call this number. call now. yes. cup your hands together for me and let's put some just around your neck. 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>> behind the scenes we have an area, the health and safety director who had information from homeland with the possibility that we may get the call. at that time welxx considering what we would do if that came through. when they called around 11:00 that day, we were ready. >> what was the first step in preparing for the operation. did you receive specialized training and was there outside support? >> we have been preparing for this time of situation, not ebola, for a long time. we financially prepared by the right equipment and trained on bioclean ups and things like that. we were able to take it to the next level with the recommendations and go ahead and take care of the job. >> you wrapped this job yesterday in that apartment complex. me what the steps were once you got in there. >> the first step was to get what we thought was affected by the patient. we got that out the first day. where he was sleeping and the clothes and towels he was using. we got that out first. then a phase two clean up was the total clean out of the apartment from personal belongings to carpet and couches and beds. everything is gone. >> they have suits on that are incredibly hot. 115 degrees. >> they had enormous amounts of sweat and they were going in and required to rest for a certain amount of time. we monitored throughout the day and the night. these guys came this to work at 7:00 on saturday and worked until 11:00 on sunday. your workers being monitored to make sure they didn't come into contact? >> the guys went home yesterday to their families and had a good night's rest and we had a debriefing. we moved on with our business and what we are here to do as emergency responders, whether it's an accident or road clean up or another biohazard. >> walk me through the process when you are done with the clean up. how do you get the suits off? that's involved. >> absolutely. that's part of the training. we take off certain layers first and roll them back to make sure there is no contact. the person undressing the guys are also in a suit and it goes down a level from there until everyone is undressed. >> do you consider this a successful job? >> absolutely i do. >> would you consider this apartment ready for move? >> obviously things need to be done esthetically and getting it ready because of what we did, but as far as cleaning out the apartment, that will be on the health officials to make that determination. >> what's the fact and what's the fiction and the appropriate level of worry without getting too worried? what message would you have to others seeing the ground zero of this in this complex in the community. >> the others in the complex they were going along with everyday and our guys going in the way they were suited up. in my opinion, they are fine. i'm going on recommendations from others. i'm not here to make that decision or assumption. i feel comfortable walking around there myself. i did. >> that's an important message for the community to hear. have you had contact with the family? >> i have not. >> certainly those of us at home are thankful for your work. something not a lot of people wanted to do. the cleaning guys. thank you. >> thank you. >> we are live from dallas and up next, we have more from the community and how it's reacting. we talked to the judge who is at the heart of that response and who took the risky move of getting this family, those around thomas eric dunk an to safety. we have that after the break. ameriprise asked people a simple question: in retirement, will you have enough money to live life on your terms? 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[ screaming ] >> horrifying. msnbc joins me now with the latest. thanks for being with us. the gentlemen we see there, jamaal jones held a press conference where he talked about what happened. take a listen. >> it affected me a lot. i felt like my civil rights were thrown out the window along with my body. please make this as quick as possible. can we go to the hospital. he threw that out the window and i felt black again. >> the video is troubling with the middle kids in the back seat and the tactics seemed really aggressive here. what are the police saying to justify their actions? >> after several requests for mr. jones to get out of the vehicle, he refused. they said on a number of occasions he seemed to reach to the back seat of the vehicle and they feared he had a weapon. as this video shows, we need another video of how terrified black motorists can be. >> his 14-year-old had the presence of mind to record all of this on his iphone. do you think the impact of what we saw unfold in ferguson is making people think twice about encounters and having it pull out the phone? >> in ferguson where he was choked by police officers, any number of cases where black men, unarmed black men are badly hurt or killed. people are aware and pulling out their cell phones and in ferguson, they are wearing body cameras to make sure they record any encounter with the police. it only takes a little bit to tip to a dangerous side. >> absolutely. the hammond police reported this incident said that jones was arrested for failure to aid an officer. is that a charge? i never heard of that. >> i placed a call to the hammond police and haven't gotten a response. i'm not sure what that means. being he was trying to comply, but as they mentioned in the lawsuit, they feared for their lives. when he was ordered to get his id and he reached for it and the officers pulled out their weapons. they didn't want to get out for fear they may get shot. >> know one of the important things is the accountability. it's not just a he said she said. thank you so much as always. police have responded saying that the police officers were at all times acting in the interest of officer safety and in affordance with indiana law. coming up, ronan will be back live in dallas with one of the people in charge of that city's ebola response. will dallas be the example of what to do and what not to do when it comes to fighting a national outbreak. so guys -- it's just you and your honey. the setting is perfect. you know what? plenty of guys have this issue, not just getting an erection, but keeping it. well, viagra helps guys with ed get and keep an erection. and you only take it when you need it. good to know, right? if ed is stopping what you started... ask you doctor about viagra. 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is there an overreaction based on the facts? >> i think people are scared and respect the fact that they are scared. they need to trust we have a good partnership working here and we are going to contain this ebola. >> jesse jackson coming into the community. you had ton exact with jesse jackson, i understand? >> he contacted the chief of staff and we exchanged cell phones and visited a& as the schedule permits to get together. >> do you know what the chief concern is? >> he asked me if i would pass along -- >> louise being the partner? >> yes. he would like to pray with her. >> and i told them i will see her and i took her pedestrianor out to see her yesterday. >> we are both against people getting charged fees. >> you see it as the broader problem with the community. i also want to get your reaction to the special hearing of the health and human services committee. you have been in the center of dallas. what has gone wrong and right? >> i have torn off the rear view mirror on this and we took over on thursday. that will be left for the after action report. what do i want them to focus on? getting better and making the community is that much safer. they are doing that. our disease detectives are doing a rogue job and i'm proud of what they are doing. >> it has been an heroic response and want to get your national response. he announced he is putting together an ebola task force. here it is. >> washington needs to take immediate steps to minimize the dangers of ebola and other infectious diseases. to begin with, customs officials and border patrol agentsa the all points of entry should be directed to conduct enhanced screening procedures. >> have you had enough support from the federal government and is there one thing you would like to see changed? >> we had great support from the federal and state persons. situations like this with the public help no-no boundaries. i invented in my eoc top officials from the response of the cdc and the state's public health commissioner sits next to me 12 hours a day. >> thank you, your honor. appreciate all you are doing. stay with us. next we dive into politics. we are coming up on election day. big mid-terms ahead. after that, we are back live here for more of the latest on ebola. ok, if you're up there, i could use some help. smart sarah. seeking guidance. just like with your investments. that sets you apart. it does? 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>> how are you doing? >> i know you are kind of a blue grass guy and got your star reporting here. how much do we make of these numbers? >> i wouldn't make much of any one of the numbers except for one number. over a period of 40 or 45 polls, mitch connell has been over 50% only one time. the average is closer to about 45 or 46. that means he hasn't really made the sale yet. he kept allison at bay, but she still has a chance to make the case for herself and make this a down to the wire race. >> to that point, they had to say it's just poll and you get the feeling that the race is more competitive than the wisdom suggest and it comes as the campaign is trying to make the case that the race is over. what do you make of the numbers? >> that's right. they sunday me the polls about a week ago and of course you get the polls from campaigns and you don't take them seriously because they are from the campaign, but in fact their internal poll was with the number of voters something like 15 or 10% that were undecided. i think we are going to see another shift possibly come the debate. that happens next week and it's going to be allison grimes's chance to stand next to mitch mcconnell. they have been tough. it hit a bitter hard fought nasty race. she will get a chance to get on stage and confront him. >> she is sort of the perfect foil for mitch mcconnell and she has run strong and being a strong kentucky woman. i have to say that resonates with a lot of women in kentucky. >> it is also resonating if you look at the last poll that mitch mcconnell isó@>@ñ seeing erosioh men as well. not just rem are leaning more towards allison grimes and there is movement among men, but she is very much running as the anti-mitch mcconnell. >> another race down in arkansas one of her biggest backers has been bill clinton. in arkansas and on behalf of mark pryor. let's take a listen. >> i wander and i may roam, but i will never be far from home.? 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>> i don't think that's going to happen. not in the short term. there is some political expediency -- or calls for that, i should say. so far the administration is not going along with that. in part because they want to ensure those flights continue because that's how they get people in and out and they get supplies in and out. you mentioned the cdc element of this and if they can put cdc on the four airports, chicago o'hare, newark, laguardia and l dulles. there may not be enough cdc personnel on the ground to do that. they are stretched already as a government agency. they've had the budget slashed over the last five to ten years. there's a practical issue to see if there's enough people around to do that to begin with. on the flipside is, do you ask custom and border patrol and immigration authorities to keep an eye out for anybody who might be symptomatic. these are not triage nurses. these people have a different role to play in our society. that's to enforce and ensure the borders are secure and immigration laws are being followed. it may be a bit much to ask them to take people's temperature and do a quick triage to see if people are sick. that's the administration is dealing with, if they want to beef up any security or screening process at the four airports on the ground, where do you find the people to do it? where do you find the expertise? we're not talking about thousands of people coming into the united states every day from west africa. we're talking about 150 or so a day. 150 coming mostly to these four airports. that seems to be the main transit point, if you will, or the main point for which they disembark or chain planes. this is where they hit customs immigration and where they're first seen on american soil. so, if they can find a way to simply scan and screen these 150 a day, they feel like they're probably further along. >> tom costello, thank you for that update. a lot of changes on the air travel front in this story. as we mentioned, in addition to this ebola story in dallas, we're tracking breaking news right now. uk authorities saying they just foiled a terror plot, supposedly affiliated with isis, in its early but legitimate faces. how much do we know about this individual who is supposedly linked to isis and was one of those arrested? >> well, there have been four men arrested, ronan. one of them, i am told, has returned recently from syria and we think was fighting with isis. so, the fear will be that this was a plot targeting the uk. we're told, as you say, it was the early stages so there wasn't a method planned or particular target chosen. this was an isis plot to target the uk. that may not mean the organization isis itself had a plan. it may be, if it turns out to be true, just to say these are arrests, of course. this hasn't reached anything like the legal process, but if it turns out to be true, this may be a group who unilaterally decided to try to launch some kind of attack but one returned from syria. we wait for those details. police saying they have raided a number of addresses in the early hours this morning in the uk. vehicles they say are also being searched in west and central london as part of the investigation, ronan. >> do they feel these raids were fully successful or are there still outstanding components they're talking about? >> there will always be outstanding components in an investigation like this, but it appears this comes after a number of months of surveillance and investigation. quite often what will happen, ronan, in general terms is that the uk intelligence and security authorities and the u.s. authorities will operate often in the same way. they will monitor people. try to find out exactly what they are doing, who else they are connected with before they move. and always try to protect the public whilst finding as much intelligence as they possibly can. >> thank you for tracking this for us. we know we'll have more details emerging. this is just coming in. thank you at home. we're here in dallas live tracking concerns about ebola cases. the family just arriving at the hospital behind me and also reverend jesse jackson stepping into the fray meeting with that family. up next is "the reid report." thank you for your time at home. it's been a pleasure. >> thanks very much, ronan. coming up next on "the reid report," we'll have the latest on ebola and how the patients treated in the u.s. are doing. also, this family was pulled over by police for a routine traffic stop. what happened next is 75? 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[ bleep ]. >> on the ground. >> that was crazy. that was horrible. this is a horrible. >> joining me

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