Immigration officials to dump thousands of detainees in sanctuary cities, all in the name of pettiness and punished mostly democratic districts and their lawmakers. The administration admitted to floating the plan, then dropping it, not because it was so mean or so authoritarian, but according to a Homeland Security official, because it was, quote, so illegal, which, in President Trumps mind, means so what . Well bring the illegal, whatever you call them, i call them the illegals. They came across the border illegally. Well bring them to sanctuary city areas and let that particular area take care of it. They want more people in their sanctuary cities, well, well give them more people. We can give them unlimited supply. Lets see if theyre so happy. They say we have open arms. Lets see if they have open arms. Adding to the fascist if n , fantasy, nbc news reports they have also discussed militaryizing migrant detention by having u. S. Soldiers build tent cities and monitor detainees directly in defiance of u. S. Law. Looming behind all the news, attorney general william barr says a redacted version of the Mueller Report is slated to drop sometime this week, but will the edits satisfy Congressional Democrats losing their patience with the process . Joining me now, Doug Thornell, democratic zprajs a former advisory to the Democratic National committee, and joe watkins, republican strategist and former white house aide under president george h. W. Bush. Doug, let me go to you first. This idea even to be floated, denied, and then repeated as you just saw by the president , of sending migrants to sanctuary cities. Let me get this right. He wants to build a wall, he wants at another point close the border. Now he wants to send people that come across the border all over the United States to democratic sanctuary cities for no other reason than to punish his political opponents. Yeah, rev. This man has a broken soul. Every day he proves that to the American People. This is another example of that. Many of these migrants are fleeing, asking for asylum, theyre bringing children. And the president wants to use them as pawns in this game. And that is disgraceful. But it shows that this president has failed on the whole issue of immigration, both his supporters who wanted a wall and they wanted that wall paid for by mexico, they arent going to get that. He failed to get mexico to pay for it. For the rest of the American People who were hoping for maybe some type of Immigration Reform, he has turned this into a partisan issue. If you remember back when president george w. Bush was in office, he was looking to find an Immigration Reform plan. He was working with people like john mccain and Lindsey Graham and democrats. They couldnt get it done and he took a lot of political water on that. But republicans were willing to work with democrats on that at that issue. And the same thing under barack obama, they actually passed a bill in the senate, a bipartisan bill. The president has turned this into a totally partisan issue and im afraid were never going to be able to get anything done unless one party has overwhelming control of their legislative body. Now, reverend joe watkins, you are a minister as well as a republican of long standing. Were going into palm sunday tomorrow. Yeah,. And easter weekend and passover. Were talking about children. Many of those coming across the border are children. Aside from the legality question, the morality of were going to transport children, put them in tents and have the military watch over them, i mean, its almost like the japanese detained in world war ii. I mean, how does the evangelical community and others even stand by in silence when this is even suggested and then repeated by the president himself . Im a pastor, and i have to preach tomorrow, and i have to look my parishioners in the eye and tell them to love your neighbor like yourself, treat people like the way you want to be treated. Obviously this kind of a move wouldnt be doing that. Weve seen so many kids already whove been poorly treated at the border, coming across the border, maybe not legally, but certainly not treated well. Im in favor of anything that treats people the way we want to be treated. Treat them with humanity and love and kindness. You can still do it within the bounds of the law, but do it in a thoughtful, kind way, especially kids. Kids above all else ought to be treated with love and kindness. Doug, let me bring this part. We talked about the legality and the morality. But the practicality. If you are taking migrants and sending them all over the country, how do you have hearings to determine whether they are seeking asylum is right or not . How are you doing what you claim is your goal to make sure that people are here legally for asylum and not other purposes if youre distributing all over just to punish your enemies all over the United States map . How practically could that work . I dont think it does and i dont think the president even thought that far. I think it was this was all a knee jerk political reaction by the president , by Steven Miller and others in the administration. Keeping in the way in which hes conducted himself on this issue since the start of the administration and before. Hes talking about right now bringing back the family separation policy that i think joe was alluding to earlier. Thats disgraceful. We still have kids whove been separated from their parents for months now and they havent been returned. Some of these kids have been lost by the government. So its a tragedy what he is doing, whether or not they came here legally or illegally, they are children, and he seems to be much more comfortable using them as pawns in this game than actually finding a solution to the immigration problem or treating them with humanity. And it goes into, joe, this whole us against them. Anyone different. Hes called mexicans names, african nations names, he called congresswoman omar distorting what she said and the fact that shes a muslim and wears hijab is something. I mean, this whole spirit of divisiveness has further polarized this country more than weve seen in a long time. We know bigotry and racism is there, but now its being encouraged to take sides, us against them, which is dangerous and certainly not good for this country. Im sad to see the polarization and i hearken for the time people on both sides of the aisle work together. I hearken back to the days of mccain and Lindsey Graham working with domes fashion an agreement on immigration. Thats good thing. At the end of the day, whether youre a d or or an r, the whole idea is to leave it better than you found it. Do whats right for them and the country and bring people together. Dont divide. Let me ask you quickly, doug, the attorney general says that we will have the redacted Mueller Report with an week, he said, on tuesday. So its expected monday or tuesday of the coming week. What is the fear that many have in the democratic side of the redactions in terms of theyre saying they dont want to make any public that violates grand jury testimony which a judge could rule on, or National Security, which we dont know who determines what is a National Security risk. Is it determined by National Security people that trump appointed . And anything embarrassing. Who determines that . I mean, are we going to see anything that might give us a sense that the president may not have gone over the bar of illegality but went over the bar but we are told the policy in the Justice Department is you couldnt indict a sitting president. I mean, what do we need to look for in this report when it is released in a redacted form . Well, it shouldnt be redacted at all for congress. They are a coequal branch of government. It should not be redacted. Congress vote overwhelmingly, unanimously to make the Mueller Report public and also all of the underlying documents. Even if you want to redact some of that for the public, for congress, they have every right to see the full report. So i think democrats, their concern is not so much what is and what isnt going to be redacted. They dont think anything should be redacted when they see it, when Congress Sees it. Its not just about trump. You know, the russians attacked us in the 2016 election. And theres a lot of information, i think, in there that would be very helpful to chairmen in both the senate and house to protect us moving forward in 2020. And i would just hope that congress at least has an opportunity to see a full, complete report. If theres a decision to be made to redact certain aspects of it for the public, okay, they can do that. But the congress has every right to see this whole thing. At least the intelligence committees of the senate and the house should be able to see it. Im going to have to hold it a minute, doug and joe, youre staying for more. I might note that doug wore a tuxedo. I just got to keep up with you, rev. Right. Coming up first, though, White Supremacy and racist violence is up, and i think i know why. Be right back. Itso chantix can help you quit slow turkey. Along with support, chantix is proven to help you quit. 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Unfortunately, anatomy when decisive leadership is needed, the president s rhetoric fans the flames with language that, whether intentional or not, they motivate an embolden white supremacist movements. We only need to look at the perpetrators to see. If theres been one constructive thing to come out of trump era, its the current out of it on White Supremacy as a national and Global Security threat as racist violence from kentucky to christchurch, new zealand, seems to have gal vinized everyone, and the president recently downgrading the federal response to domestic terror while continuing to push for a racist border wall that would not have stopped a young woman from being run over and killed by neonazis in virginia in 2017. Those 12 jewish worshippers from being shot to death by a racist in pittsburgh last year, or most recently those three black churches in louisiana that authorities suspect were burned down by the white son of a local sheriffs deputy. In other words, folks, the enemy is already here and getting help from the top. Joining me now is Frank Figliuzzi, former assistant director for counterintelligence, and now National Security analyst for msnbc, and kristin clark, president of the Lawyers Committee for civil rights under the law. Frank, let me go to you first. They have recently downgraded domestic terrorism. When you look at the attacks, three black churches in louisiana, the 11 members of the jewish community, jewish faith, killed in the synagogue, if thats not terrorism, what is . And any number of those statistics released show theres an increase in hate crime. How does this administration justify downgrading domestic terrorism in our Intelligence Department . Well, i can tell you its certainly not adjustable on any data set that were aware of. We have to look to other motivations on this downgrade. Youre right. The fbi has noted a 17 increase in hate crime just in the one year between 2016 and 2017. So the administrations going in the opposite direction of the facts, and even more so, rev, we got to make a comparison here to radical extremists online and compare that to what the president is saying verbally, what hes messaging through his administration, and i see, having worked terrorism during my career, i see an analogy here between radicalization in the Islamic Movement and what were seeing domestically and even globally. So the Church Burnings in louisiana raise a question for all of us, which is, does the fbi have the tools and resources it needs for domestic terrorism . Im here to tell you legislation does not yet equip the fbi prominently. If you want to continue the comparison, with International Terrorist groups. Wow. We dont have an analogous domestic Terrorism Law that allows the fbi to say youre advocating violence on a domestic level and we need to treaty you like a terrorist organization. Kristin, look at some numbers. We saw a 30 rise in the number of hate groups since President Trump took office. Thats from the southern posvery law center, and a 50 spike in the number of White Nationalist groups last year. In the 17 years since the 9 11 attack, domestic extremism has killed more americans at home than islamic terror by a factor of nearly 4 to 1. Yet were seeing the downgrading of looking into these matters. You testified this week before the house judiciary committee. What was the crux of what you were trying to say in how you were dealing with this messaging online . First of all, im glad that congress is bringing attention to and shining a light on the crisis we face in the country right now. No doubt hate crimes are on the rise and we are seeing White Nationalist groups proliferating across the country because they are embold understaened by the from the white house and this administration. We have seen the president use racial expletives to refer to people from africanamerican and caribbean countries. Theres the muslim ban, and theres policies that take aim at black and brown people in an intentional way. What i sought to explain to congress is that they need to step up. We do need more tools in our arsenal to fight back against the hate that were up against today. We need congress to put in place laws that can allow us to, for example, hold the tech sector accountable for the ways they feed into this crisis. A lot of these White Supremacists are not getting together at the local coffee shop. They are getting together online. Theyre going to places like facebook and other online performs to organize hate rallies, to target minority communities, to recruit new members. And so its really important that we think about how do we hold the tech sector accountable for the ways in which theyre feeding into this crisis that were up against . Frank, what can government do and what should they do around making sure that the Tech Companies do not continue to be an avenue for this kind of hate that is turning into actual violence with an increase in the numbers of victims . Yeah. Its time for congress to not just cross their fingers and hope for the best out of silicon valley. Theyve proven theyre unable to handle this without adult supervision. Theyre driven by profit and their algorithms. And you lie like the idea theyre suggesting people we should friend or we might want to think about joining this group. Well, guess what, those same algorithms apply for people who are involved in hate and hate speech and were finding on the International Terrorism side that the algorithms actually introduce terrorists to likeminded terrorists. And so Congress Needs to get everybody together and say the algorithms need to be tweaked so that theres a filter for hate, violence and hate speech and Congress Needs ask law enforcement, do you have what you need to get the job done . Right now the answer is no. Now, christian, i think frank touched on what i wanted to ask you because youre a lawyer and a very good one at that. We are not talking about free speech. Were talking about domestic terrorism. How do we distinguish the two and remain the only owithin the of the law. But weve got to be able to deal with this Tech Companies so they dont become the place where you park to organize actual Violent Attacks on people based on their race, gender, sexual orientation, or religion. You know, the First Amendment are a bedrock feature of our democracy, and thats not what were talking about when we West Palm Beach bitter, brutal hate crimes that are on the rise. Were talking about inciting violence, White Nationalists who are out there abusing Online Platforms to target communities. We represented a woman at an American University elected school president. Shortly after that the daily stormer and its publisher instructed their followers to target this woman relentlessly. They hung banana peels and nooses around campus and they published her personal information online. Most strikingly, they encouraged and told people to go out and harm her. That is