before. and as always with trump, there was the use of race as a prop yesterday. the only black people visible in the rose garden being judge barrett's adopted children. and while they were, indeed, off limits, remember that the president famously denigrated their birth country, haiti, as a, quote, s-hole just two years ago. but also remember that by the time he is done or re-elected, donald trump may not have installed not one, not two, but three supreme court justices in one term. leaving a generational mark on the nation's highest bench. and now we have a date. senate judiciary chair lindsey graham announcing just hours after barrett's nomination that her nomination hearings will begin on october 12th. hours ago, joe biden addressed the stakes of it all. >> this is about your health care. this is about whether or not the aca will exist. this is about whether or not preexisting conditions will be continued to be covered. this is about whether or not a woman can be charged more for the same procedure as a man. this is about people's health care in the middle of a pandemic. >> one point i want to make about the scotus and the future of health care, they have a record. they attacked a justice for not dealing with a negative vote on health care, and they have a record on other items that i cannot at this point give because the list is long. it troubles me that as we are in the middle of a pandemic and some are even increasing in finding covid-19 in certain locations around the country, that we have on this session's calendar the affordable care act that this nominee will vote. and even if there is a moderating of the voting some on the right, if someone decides i'm going to go with the so-called liberal side, they now have three votes on that side. so one going over won't matter. we could lose the affordable health care of this country. we could lose health insurance. 30 million americans could be looking at no insurance based on preexisting conditions. and with covid, many will increase with preexisting conditions. this is no time to allow them to sit back and not follow what they did in '16 just, in my opinion, attempt to hijack a seat for someone that will vote against health care if their record is indicative of where they're going. joining me now, senator gary peters of michigan. senator peters, i am alarmed that on this session's calendar of the supreme court you have the affordable care act. you have a case on affirmative action. you have other cases that this justice nominee has had a record of being against the interests of most americans in terms of polling. and they're going to abort their own process that they imposed on judge garland and president obama, and try to ram her through before the election. >> you're right, reverend sharpton. it is really outrageous what we're seeing here. when you talk about the assault on health care in the middle of a pandemic, i also want to bring up what we should be doing in the senate right now is dealing with another relief package for folks who are still suffering as a result of this pandemic. we've got to help families that are having difficulty putting food on the table, a roof over their head, concerned about losing their place of where they rent or their home, possible evictions coming up in the future. we've got small businesses that need help. you know, we had mitch mcconnell not willing to negotiate to have a second covid package. apparently he doesn't have time for that. but suddenly we're in a rush to move forward a justice that is clearly a threat on major issues as you've outlined, on health care. and when you think about the millions of people that have health care now because of the affordable care act is thrown out will be absolutely catastrophic. in michigan folks are getting protection from being denied health care because of preexisting conditions, well over a million people could see that gone. the medicaid expansion of over 800,000 people in my state, the state exchanges that allow people to buy it puts it well over a million total with the medicaid expansion. you're talking about a monumental cost to folks when we should be focused on dealing with the covid crisis. >> i want to bring you back to a point you made, and that is that we pushed for this senate under mitch mcconnell, who is the majority leader and sets the calendar, to deal with further stimulus needs that people that got the first stimulus money are out of money. we pushed for them to come with more to save businesses. as i said also, individuals. he could not do that in the calendar. we pushed him to deal with some police reform measures. house passed the george floyd policing injustice act. wouldn't put it on the calendar. tens of thousands of us marched there just four weeks ago and that will continue, too. but they found a way to put on the calendar a confirmation hearing of a justice when they refuse to even give a hearing to justice garland in 2016 to fill the seat of late justice scalia. scalia died on february 14th of '16, way before the election. ruth bader ginsburg died in september while people were already voting in virginia and minnesota. this is a raw deal abusing power and showing where their priorities are. couldn't deal with stimulus for sitd se citizens. couldn't deal with more money for businesses. they found a way to jump the calendar to accommodate this president and his nominee. >> absolutely it is truly a power grab, as you mentioned. folks are voting here in michigan. as you know, we are a key battle ground state. we are going to determine who the next president is. i think you need to win michigan to be president. my u.s. senate race, one of the highest profile races in the country, passed to take the majority in the senate requires me to hold the seat. i'm a democrat in a state donald trump won. they're coming at us aggressively. people in michigan are voting. ballots are available. when you think about the consequence of this nation, what it will mean for health care, re3r0d i have freedom, civil rights, for voting rights, for the balance between corporations and workers. and you know with this new justice it's going to be heavily weighted towards big corporations and special interests. and everyday folks are going to get the short end. people need to have a voice. they need to be able to vote on who should be the one picking this nominee. and quite frankly, what senate will be sitting that will have the opportunity to confirm. folks are voting. as you mentioned, it's only a few short days. there's never been a situation where a vote has occurred this close to an election. the closest one, abraham lincoln actually refused to move a supreme court nominee forward even though he was president, because he said it wasn't the right thing to do. now, clearly abraham lincoln is a completely different president than we have now -- >> all of them have been. i'm going to have to hold michigan state a minute. michigan senator, u.s. senator, gary peters, thank you for joining us. joining me now is imani ghandi and co-hostage of the podcast boom lawyered. thank you for being with me, imani. imani, give us an idea. you follow the supreme court as closely as anyone. what are the cases that are already scheduled to be on the calendar this november? >> well, i think the key case that is the most important for a lot of marginalized people is the case involving whether or not lgbtq people and non-christian people can foster children. so there is a case out of philadelphia where the question is whether or not it is appropriate to discriminate against non-christians and lgbtq people when it comes to fostering children. and this is a case that's going to be decided this next term. so by this time next year, the answer to that question very well will be or might be no, and that's something that's really concerning for me and for -- >> they're going to have that case which involves the rights of lgbtq people. we noah firmtive action is on the calendar, affordable care. there are very serious cases that affect clearly all americans, but directly those that are marginalized and those that are non-white, non-male, non-heterosexual, have real cases that could be decided that we'd have to live with for decades if, in fact, another seat does not become available to them and we don't wish anybody's demise, so we're not saying we want that to happen. let me ask you about the debates. the first debate is tuesday night. what is your thinking that this court appointment contrary to how they dealt with garland, do you think that is a major factor in the debate? and do you think that many americans will vote one way or another because of the way this raw power move has been used with so much at stake here? >> well, it's an interesting question because on the one hand, permitting trump to fill the seat to elevate amy coney barrett to the bench, then sort of opens up democrats to mobilize around that shameful, what i think is shameful power play, right. so if you have trump installing this woman onto the court, this close to an election, in complete contrast to what all of the republicans were saying four years ago with respect to merritt garland, that can cause a severe blowback. if he doesn't fill the seat and he waits till the election and let's say he wins, then democrats are in a tougher spot, right, because what a lot of people are hoping for is that democrats will be able to take back the house, take back the senate, take the white house, and then expand the courts. if trump wins again, even if he hasn't appointed amy coney barrett to the bench yet, he will do so after he wins. so it's a very sticky situation, and i'm not sure what it is that democrats can do about it. but i do know that i am becoming increasingly frustrated with the way in which senate democrats seem to be relying on some sort of honor or some sort of idea that republicans are going to adhere to these institutional norms that have governed our democracy for as long as they have when we've seen that they just don't care. i mean, they're not particularly beholden to their constituents. they are way outside the margin when it comes to certain issues. and it just seems to me that expecting them to respond to the will of the people it's just facile. i'm disappointed democrats haven't done more. >> i think people need to understand when the supreme court makes a decision, there's no higher court to appeal to in the united states. we're going to have to live with that for a long time unless there's another case that comes up. and if the court is the same, it probably won't even get a hearing. so we're talking about things that cannot be appealed. they are the last place that you can appeal. and this is as serious as it can get, which might explain, imani, why a lot of republicans that may not have demonstrated political honor, but at least have table manners, has tolerated the bizarre, rude and, in my opinion, off-the-wall behavior of this president because they wanted to see this court stacked and they wanted to see 200 federal judges appointed, and he's given them that to the right of the right of the right. and we're going to have to deal with this for a long time. >> we will. and i think it's really worth noting that, you know, if, when amy coney barrett is elevated to the bench, we're going to have six out of the nine justices having been picked by the federalist society. and i think that that should concern everyone. and so when we talk about democrats expanding the courts -- and i don't like to use the phrase packing the courts because in terms of branding, it just doesn't sound great. what we're trying to do is expand the courts and to bring about fairness and to bring about balance to counter weight the fact that for decades the federalist society had been grooming candidates and installing them in courts making it difficult for democratic presidents to appoint anyone to the court. >> amani gandi, thank you for being with us this evening. >> thank you. >> joining me is hillary clinton's former spokesperson and michael steele, republican strategist, former chair of the republican party. michael steele, let me go to you first. the president, aside from as i pointed out, and i pointed out last night when i saw it around this time, the president had mostly just about all white audience to announce his new supreme court nominee. he's not had great policies of inclusion. but he discovered black business and black people all of a sudden with a platinum plan. let me hold one minute. let's go to breaking news from the white house right now. richard lui is following that. richey? >> yeah, rev, we are watching the white house. earlier today we learned the president will be holding a press briefing. this was announced today. we are unsure of exactly what he'll be talking about, but as you were just mentioning, rev, that this very same hour yesterday is when the president of the united states was allowed and able to push forward a third nominee for, again, when we look at the supreme court. so this could be a follow on to yesterday's briefing at the white house in the rose garden. this is inside the press briefing room. we'll see what the topic is. it has been common for him on weekends, occasionally, to come forward, announce a press briefing. occasionally it's been around the coronavirus task force. so, rev, we're watching this. we thought we may have got a two-minute warning. when that does happen, rev, we'll get right back to you. rev? >> all right. thank you, richey. and keep us informed. i was saying to you, michael steele, he seemed to discover black businesses and black economics after 3 1/2 years of being president. i remember in the middle of the beginning of the pandemic when we were complaining that small businesses and black businesses were not even getting their share of the stimulus package. there were some of us that called the president, talked to secretary mnuchin, and a lot of black businesses were cut out. now all of a sudden -- i mean, it's like magic that he's discovered a plan to help black businesses and to put $500 billion in the black community. where was that plan for the last 3 1/2 years when he was president? 88 >> it didn't exist. it may have existed in some form in the effort behind opportunity zploe zones, which has had mixed success in large measure because a lot of white-owned businesses including those owned by the first daughter, have benefited from those programs in certain zones around the country. but, look, this is the 38-day-out solution. we've known for a while the president was going to make a push into the black communities, specifically with respect to black men. that this narrative would include low unemployment, economic opportunity, which you've just laid out in the so-called platinum plan. and, of course, making appeals through criminal justice. the question for, you know, the black community is how much of this are you buying? 3 1/2 years in, 38 or so days out from an election, how much of this are you buying? my suspicion is not much of it. and we'll see ultimately what that translates into, rev. but as you've talked about, i've talked about and certainly been in the battles behind the scenes to try to move the middle -- >> yeah. >> -- for a number of african-american businesses in this front has been an uphill slog. >> it's been a brick wall. i'm not talking about the last 3 1/2 years, i'm talking about the last three or four weeks we've gone to him about black businesses and they wouldn't budge. let me say this. you both helped presidential candidates prepare for debates. felipe, you assisted hillary clinton. michael helped john mccain. let me ask you, phillippe. why is it so hard to debate donald trump? >> imagine yo-yo ma trying to perform at carnegie hall. a streaker came up and someone invited him to air horn. there's no way you can out-cello an air horn. somebody can be a bad debater and hard to debate. there's a difference between donald trump in 2016, and donald trump in 2020. four years ago he had nothing to lose. in 2020 he has everything to lose. and in 2016 he was very efficient in his words and his attacks. and in his defense of himself, which he spent minimal time doing. now the man is a grievance machine. he's just a broken record. i don't need to have a crystal ball to tell you that tuesday night he's going to spend most of his time explaining to america how the ramp was slippery and how he ran down the last 10 feet, and how his call to the ukrainian president was just so beautiful, just so perfect. and that wastes a lot of time. there's a little bit of a binary issue here. it's not that one person wins and one person loses. both can win, both can lose, neither can win. it's very possible the three of us will be together next sunday and say, you know what, the debate didn't move the needle. debates in 2016, if the election had been the day after any of those three, hillary clinton would have been president. if the election were tomorrow, joe biden would be president. i suspect that if the election were on wednesday, joe biden would also be president because while trump wants to make you look for the slightest so-called gaff, which i don't know what that means, what is it that joe biden would do? he's going to mispronounce a word? first of all, look at who he's on stage with. the guy has taken a hammer to the english language and, you know -- >> he's expanded the english language. he's actually created words that we never knew existed. >> it's impossible to follow him. and that's a big deal. we all watch him every day and say, what did he say? joe biden is going to be on stage, thinking to himself, thinking, what did he just say? i'm not supposed to say this because i'm supposed to lower expectations for joe biden. i think joe biden is going to do great. the one thing donald trump can be counted on is he never misses an opportunity to miss an opportunity. >> well, let me say -- raise this. the fox news anchor chris wallace who is moderating the first debate in cleveland on tuesday night plans to ask about these six topics. the trump and biden records. the supreme court. covid-19. the economy. race and violence in our cities. and the integrity of the election. do you agree with these topics, michael steele? >> i do. i like them, and i like the fact that mr. wallace put those out to the campaigns early because, you know, it's like getting the questions from your professor before the exam. and a lot of people think that's an easy test to take. that's actually a harder test to take because the professor now has an expectation based on the record. the record, of course, is what he taught the class. the record here is the last 3 1/2 years and the last 30 some years for joe biden, certainly the last eight years of the obama/biden administration. each of the candidates have homework to do given the questions or topic areas raised by chris wallace. i think that, to phillippe's point, is going to be a nightmare for trump because he doesn't like to study, number one. and number two, the problem is he thinks he's the smartest guy on the stage. so he thinks he knows more than wallace. he definitely thinks he knows more than biden, and that's when you make the mistake. >> yeah, that's for sure. phillippe, the dynamics are different as well because of covid-19. there will not be a huge audience. i think it's only 60 people. i know from when i ran in '04 and i was in the democratic primary debates. you feed off the crowd. as a minister you feed off the crowd period. how will the fact trump who has these big rallies will not have a live audience to play to, how much will that affect the debate? >> you know, i think less so than the conventional wisdom. i'll tell you why. i agree with you about a primary debate where you have a very large audience and representing all sorts of candidates, maybe ten candidates. i've been to general election debates, and it's not a rowdy crowd. i mean, you've got children in the audience. he's not getting up and yelling and screaming. it's big donors, it's family. but, look, if he can't see faces, if you can't see any feedback, if he can't see someone nodding or someone smiling or smirking, yeah, he's got zero feedback. look, donald trump defines a good debate as a spectacle. he's not going to do anything. he's going to make noise. his campaign leaked what he's studying to do is all these new attacks and go after joe biden. i'm sorry. if it's 35 days before an election and you're finding magic attacks against your opponent, and you have a debate stage as the laboratory, you have bigger problems. if i were joe biden, i would half jokingly say, thank case university for having me, and cleveland clinic for keeping us safe and i now yield my time to donald trump. >> what do you think, michael, the trump the worse he gets? >> i agree with phillippe. my solution which i've advocated going back to when i was national chairman and looking at these things a little bit more closely is let's do away with the audiences altogether. i think the room should just be camera men and women, the moderator and the two candidates because that filters out all the b.s., it filters out all the grandstanding and the moment that you're you looking to have someone affirm your prepared smackdown, right? when there's dead silence u your words hang and that's when you can evaluate the stauns of not just the answer, but the person who gave the answer. that exposes someone like trump. >> that's the problem, stub stance. phillippe and michael steele, thank you for being with us. >> thank you. >> coming up, demanding justice for breonna taylor. her family's attorney is not asking for kentucky general. richard lui has the other top news stories. richard? >> rev, the stories we're watching, an l.a. police officer was injured in an altercation inside a police station last night. police say the suspect entered the station lobby. he somehow took the officer's gun, then pistol whipped the officer with it. this comes just weeks after an ambush shooting of deputies in compton. california firefighters brace for the return of hot windy weather conditions. they have been fueling this year's devastating wildfire season. the national weather service issued red flag warnings across the state. confirmed coronavirus cases in the country passing another milestone, a grim milestone, over 7 million. 7.1 million. florida cases rise to over 700,000. health experts attribute the latest uptick to the easing of social distancing restrictions throughout the state. more "politics nation" with reverend al sharpton right after the break. this is my body of proof. proof i can fight moderate to severe rheumatoid arthritis. proof i can fight psoriatic arthritis... ...with humira. proof of less joint pain... 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room. you should note them. yesterday i was proud to nominate judge amy coney barrett to the supreme court. she's one of the nation's most brilliant legal minds. i think she'll do very well. we're moving along quickly. tremendous unity in the republican party. in the senate and in the white house, i think we're going to take back the house. i believe that very strongly. kevin is doing a fantastic job. and i really believe we're going to take back the house. and we're all working very hard on that. we have noticed some comments made in the media about my incredibly qualified nominee amy. "the new york times" said her religion is not consistent with american values. she's catholic. that covers a lot of people. it's a very disgraceful thing to say. some of the comedians -- i don't think they're comedians. comedians are supposed to be funny. they're nasty, they're mean, they think they're funny. some day, hopefully in five years, some day in five years they're going to be off television. they aren't good anyway, but their ratings are going to go down like you've never seen before. that includes a lot of others also. in fact, i'm waiting for "the new york times" -- >> president trump coming out for three or four minutes, a press briefing that was announced earlier today. he began bringing up amy coney barrett, his nominee for the supreme court and moving into comments and criticisms of the media. we'll continue to watch his press briefing. anything of note, we'll get right back to it. rev, back to you. >> thank you, richard. while many of americans are continuing to express outrage after the kentucky grand jury ruled on wednesday not to charge any of the three louisville police officers directly for the death of breonna taylor, meanwhile, louisville mayor greg fisher has extended the city wide curfew through the weekend. the jury indicted one officer for wanton endangerment during the raid that ended up killing miss taylor. he plans to plead not guilty. her family reacting on friday, reading a powerful letter from tamika palmer, miss taylor's mother. demanding that kentucky attorney general cameron release the grand jury transcripts and stating justice for her daughter had not been served. >> i had no faith in cameron. he had the power to do the right thing. that he had the power to start the healing of this city. that he had the power to help mend over 400 years of oppression. what he helped me realize is that it will always be us against them. >> joining me now is civil rights attorney, i call him the attorney general of black america, benjamin crump. attorney crump, you brought miss palmer on this show, i think it was the first national show she did before a lot of national media got on this case. now we're here with no one indicted for what they did to breonna taylor, which caused her death. no one, because the only indictment referred to her neighbors being endangered, not even her. what is the next step for the family as you pursue justice? >> yes, sir, reverend al. thank you for having her on before any other national media would put breonna taylor's case on. and thank you for what you did just a minute ago, cutting from president trump and showing respect for this black woman breonna taylor, killed, executed by the police in her own home, and then on the same day that emmett till 65 years ago did not get justice, the kentucky attorney general daniel cameron announced the grand jury proceedings where there was a wanton endangerment charge for her white neighbors' walls being shot into, but not one for her black neighbor who had a bullet shot in their apartment, nor were there any wanton endangerment charges that bullets went into breonna taylor's apartment. and furthermore, reverend al, worst of all, there were no wanton murder charges or second degree manslaughter charges for the bullets that went into breonna taylor's body, that mutilated her body. and that's why we don't know what evidence this kentucky attorney general daniel cameron presented to the grand jury, so we are demanding that the transcripts of this grand jury proceeding be released, just like they did with kenny walker, her boyfriend. they released his transcripts, so don't tell us that you can't do t. we're asking you, reverend al, action network, demand transparency because breonna taylor's life matters. >> now, they did release the grand jury minutes of her b boyfriend kenneth walker so there is precedent here. there's no reason if they did it for her boyfriend's testimony, grand jury minutes, rather, there's no reason why they should not do this in the case of breonna taylor. >> none whatsoever, reverend al. they seem to do stuff when it's politically expedient them. but when it doesn't appear, they don't do anything. we have to remember that daniel cameron is a protege of senate leader mitch mcconnell. and so it does beg the question whether breonna taylor was collateral damage for his political expediency because we have been asking, and we have reason to believe that he did not present to the grand jury that the whole probable cause affidavit which contained a lie breonna was receiving suspicious packages. they came out after the probable cause was announced and said, no, we did not say that. we don't have any record of breonna taylor getting any packages delivered to her apartment. so did he present that to the grand jury? and if he didn't, was he really presenting evidence on behalf of getting justice for breonna taylor? because all her mother ever wanted, reverend al, was the truth to come out. and you remember that from the first day you interviewed her. when she came to washington, d.c. for the march on washington, her heart is broken. she just wants justice for her daughter. >> now, one of the things a lot of people don't i understand is how grand juries work. there was a former judge in new york, chief judge, who said you can indict a ham sandwich in a grand jury because only the prosecutor presents to the grand jury. so we not knowing what he presented or what he did not present was all the grand jury had which is why the minutes would tell us exactly what was presented. you or no other lawyer is allowed to present anything to a grand jury. >> that's right, reverend al. you're a lawyer on television. >> hardy is my law professor. but go ahead. >> 99.9% of the time when the prosecutor wants the grand jury to indict, they will indict. if they don't want them to indict, they won't indict. reverend al, he presented these wanton endangerment charges for the bullets fired into the white neighbor's apartment. they came and gave him exactly what he wanted everything in my heart, if he would have recommended the grand jury to charge them for kelg breonna taylor, he this would have followed the direction. she would have got her day in court. also, reverend al the police officers would have had their day in court. we want justice for everybody. >> up next, we're going to mississippi. be right back. be right back. ♪ ♪ smooth driving pays off with allstate the safer you drive the more you save ♪ you've never been in better hands allstate click or call for a quote today allstate and mine's unlisted.. try boost® high protein... -with 20 grams of protein for muscle health- -versus only 16 grams in ensure® high protein. and now enjoy boost® high protein in new café mocha flavor. while much of our attention has been focus on the showdown for the presidency, outcome of individual senate races will have major impacts on key issues, from courts to health care to civil rights. in one such race, mike espy is taking on incumbent cindy hyde smith to represent mississippi. he joins me now. mike espy is also a former secretary of agriculture. all right, we're going to take a quick break. we lost our connection. we'll be right back with mike espy. py it's about the humans. these humans, those humans. groovin, and golden. it's about getting more than health insurance and a partner who listens and acts. humana calls it human care. it's talking to a doctor from your couch, or helping you find a cheaper prescription before you ask. it's helping you fix the rugs so you don't fall, and keeping you social, online or off. it's getting to know you, so you can be your healthiest. that's our superpower. that's human care. from humana. 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would be your priorities? >> well, first of all, reverend al, thank you having me on your show, my friend. i appreciate being your company again. reverend al, first of all, we ran 18 months ago, and we got 47% of the vote, even though we could only run about, you know, six months. so, people around the nation see this as a very credible effort. so what we've been doing since that time is building, laying the tracks and building the roadway so we can soar up into this election. and what we're doing message wise is lifting up the least of these. lifting up what our bible says in matthew 25th chapter of the 35th through the 40th version. you know it well. when i'm hungry, you fed me, when i was thirsty, you gave me drink, when i was a strange e you took me in. mississippi, a state you know so well, 20% of our people are below the poverty level, i'll be accessible and available to everyone regardless of age, gend gender, sexual orientation, but we're going to focus on the bottom third. by lifting up the bottom third, that in turn, guaranteed to lift mississippi up from number 50. and the number-one issue in the campaign is the number-one issue in mississippi. health care. health care. health care. right now, we see the affordable care act with a bull's-eye on its back with what we know is about to happen on november 10th. so what i've been saying to all mississippians, if ywe can just bring medicaid expansion to mississippi, we would automatically provide medical insurance to a quarter of a million people. we would provide economic solace to all the rural hospitals that are closing because of uncompensated care and we would take care of all the folks with asthma, diabetes, and hypertension, and all the pre-existing illnesses. we need to do it now. missouri just did it. oklahoma just did it. so you can't complain about these are just blue-state solutions. these are now common sense solutions. so i want to be the senator for health care and that's why we've gone from nine points down to five points down to one point down, to i believe a victory in a few days. >> and one point down is within the margin of error, so you're saying health care for all mississippians. despite race. is a prior day that -- and a big issue and problem that particularly if it is dealt with in a negative way by the supreme court. >> the poor -- poor has no race. and poverty has no color. so, if you focus on the lowest levels of the economic strata, you're going to focus on a lot of african-americans, yes, but you're also going to focus on a lot of poor whites. i mean, so this is what we're doing in our campaign. so, we got 99% of the black vote 18 months ago in the urban areas. 94% in the rural areas. but we got about 18% of white vote because they know now they want someone that just doesn't dwell on the past, we want to move mississippi now to be a state that's more inclusive, that's more diverse, but one that focus economically on those that really matter and to me, what really matters are those in the bottom one-third. in education. in a health care. in covid disparity. we have now about 3,000 people dead in mississippi with only a population of 3 million. 3,000 dead. there's an incredible disparity because most of them are 65% african-american. so we just do the right thing, reverend al, and abide by the scripture that you know so well. you know -- >> all right. >> we'll do well. >> all right. mike espy, thank you for being with us. coming up, my final thoughts. and now, listen, as we look at what is going on in this country, this tuesday i have a book coming out called, "rise up: confronting a country at the cross roads." i wrote this book and went back and finished it as late as four weeks ago because it is important that we deal with the issues of not only race, and i certainly deal with that, but i deal with climate change, i deal with lgbtq rights, i deal with women's rights, i deal with voting rights and how we must have an intersectional movement to decide which way this country is going to go as we are at the cross roads of those that want to bring us back to pre-1960s america and those that want to move forward. i also talk in the book about some of life's changes down through the years. with donald trump who i have fought with and who has come to our national action network convention when he acted like he was a democrat. i talk about a lot of experiences in the eight years of the obama presidency and exchanges and interactions and dealings with him. to show the difference in the roles. i tell some personal antidotes i've never shared and i talk about how everyone can be an activist. no, everyone can't lead a march. everyone will not be in the media, but everyone, whether it's just in their household, just people they touch, it is time to rise up. we are in a moment where we see where the supreme court could be tilted that will affect our children, our grandchildren, and their children. we are in a moment where we 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