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predicted that as we got closer to november, and went through what is bound to be its contentious result, that there would be violence. last night in portland, one person shot dead as supporters of president trump and black lives matter protesters clashed in the streets. authorities are still investigating in late breaking news this afternoon. democratic presidential nominee joe biden issued a statement on the violence exclusively to nbc news. it reads, in part, i condemn this violence unequivocally. i condemn violence of every kind by any one whether on the left or the right. and i challenge donald trump to do the same, end of quote. just moments ago, the mayor of portland had this message to the president. >> do you seriously wonder, mr. president, why this is the first time in decades that america has seen this level of violence? it's you who have created the hate and the division. it's you who have not found a way to say the names of black people killed by police officers, even as people in law enforcement have. and it's you who claimed that white supremacists are good people. >> president trump, for his part, spent part of his day fanning the flames on twitter, continuing to perpetuate the same vicious cycle we've seen throughout his presidency. peaceful not. protesters are met with frost by local police at the president's command or by self-depp utizing white supremacists. in wisconsin, the president dispatches federal troops there. of course, when the violence does occur, right wingers feel vindicated reducing the argument to burning stores and neighborhoods they don't live in. and seldom with the same force denouncing the disproportionate black death we see constantly uploaded to the world. with the police shooting of jacob blake, i agree with them on one point, that the destruction is not addictive to the cause or additive to the cause or part of the cause or to the people that need it most to succeed. but make no mistake about it. the continued unwillingness of the nation to deal meaningfully with race, specifically race and criminal justice, is the axel of all of this, and the willingness to do that work is what made the commemorative march -- in washington with martin luther king iii, president of national action network. it made it so successful and integrated, not behind what they would call black supremacy, but around human rights. and that, for the most part, is what you have on the ground in kenosha, wisconsin, where we start tonight and where president trump announced he will travel on tuesday to meet with law enforcement. but not any of the protesters because in order to do that, he would have to believe that there were fine people on both sides, as he suggested in charlottesville. and that would send the wrong message, one of unity, which is what presidential candidates generally try to do just weeks before a general election. joining me now is wisconsin congresswoman gwen moore. congresswoman, thank you for being with us again today. let me bring to you what the mayor in portland just said. he says that they don't want the president to come. the president has caused -- flamed the tensions. he doesn't want him to come. how do you feel about him coming [ inaudible ] on tuesday? do you want him to come? >> absolutely not. thanks for having me, reverend sharpton. and literally, the faith community has really taken this up. they really see the president's visit for what it is. it's a photo op. he wants to do a commercial there. and take advantage of the pain and agony that this community is experiencing, to stoke, quite frankly, the violence and conflict as we have seen counter protesters literally recruited to this -- to the scene of the protests. and the faith community is getting together as we speak. they had an inter-faith meeting this afternoon. another group, because they are planning what they will do with the presence of donald trump on tuesday because they don't want to feed into the master of chaos. >> his coming certainly will bring about a lot of tension, and he's announced he will be meeting with law enforcement. if you were to meet with president trump, what would you say to him, congresswoman? >> you know, i would tell him, this is not 1968. we're not going to go for the okeydoke. we are going to follow the guidance of many of our leaders, really starting from julia -- miss julia jackson, rather, the mother of the victim, jacob blake, who said she wants peace, focus, she wants justice, but she wants peace, peaceful. and we're not going to buy into the president's law and order campaign in 1968, which, of course, elected richard nixon. we're not going to feed into that. i would say that we're going to, we're going to keep the faith. we're going to keep our eye on the prize. we're going to keep hope alive. and we're going to keep it real, rev. >> let me ask you this. i think one of the things that i've said, and i've always denounced violence as you know, but i think you have to denounce violence on both sides as i said at the march saturday. we have consistently been against looting, but we have not heard "the voice"s that's been against wrong police shooting and you need to be condemning both. and really, if you don't get to the core of the problem, we'll keep going through this particularly when you have a head of state stoking these fires. the other thing i think is giving out misinformation because the president was the one that distorted the background of jacob there in wisconsin and his saying that as president causes injury to the case if there is a case that many of us want. and it does damage to an already hurting family. >> well, rev, you know, there are all kinds of inequities in the way that this has been dealt with. you know, you take a man who, you know, i've always been taught if you shoot someone in the back, that's because you're a coward. and then we saw at the other extreme, you know, an alleged murderer given water and being allowed to go home, being treated well, so similar to dillon roof in south carolina who was taken to burger king afterwards, being treated like a human being. shot seven times and handcuffed -- legs cuffed to his bed. how ridiculous. he couldn't even walk and probably never will walk again. so that is why you have folks like the aclu and others calling for the removal of the sheriff and people who seemed with their rhetoric to be aiding and abetting these vigilantes to avail themselves of the tremendous pain that they caused. and i want to point out unless it's happened in the last two minutes since we've been on tv, i have not heard the president call jacob blake jr.'s name one time nor send out his sympathy for the other victims of this vigilante, including the manho his life, whose arm was shot off. . haven't heard one word of >> absolutely. well, thank you, congresswoman gwen moore for being with us. on the last night of the republican national convention, the gop tried hard to connect president trump with black voters, and in this recent poll, 80% of black americans -- 80% -- have an unfavorable opinion of the president, and that includes people within his own party. i had a chance to sit down with former republican governor of california, arnold schwarzenegger. governor, thank you for joining me this evening. let me ask you, i took very clear note on the 4th of july. you wrote something that dealt with race in america. what moved you to do it and what was your message? >> well, first of all, let me just say to you i'm shocked that you don't have your cigar with you because -- i mean, that's how we met. people allegation ask me, why are you doing this show with al sharpton? i said, we've been good friends. this is crazy. you don't have anything in common with him. i said, what are you talking about? for instance, cigars. we met at havana in new york all the time and smoke cigars. that's one thing we have in common. i said, but -- >> that's right. >> we then realized that there are so many other things we have in common. for instance, i said, he enjoys a clean environment. one time i was sitting there and he was complaining about the pollution out there. and i said, so was i. he wants to have clean air. he wants to have clean water. he wants to have clean soil, all of this stuff like i do. then i realized he wants to have for his children and his grandchildren the same great education as i want for my kids and for my grand kids. then they talked about criminal justice system. we both are believing there should be reforms in the criminal justice system. then we talked about voting, how great it is to go out and to vote on election day, but there are so many times i have the opportunity to vote because they take the polling places away from them and make it very difficult. all of those issues we have in common, we want to vote and we want to have the ability to vote and we want to get loans for our homes and we want to have the equal opportunities. all this kind of stuff. so this is why we are very good friends, so that everyone understands out there why we are good friends because we have so many things in common. i am a republican and he is a democrat. we learn -- we sit down and because i've always -- i was at the birthday celebration. i congratulated america for the birthday on july 4th and i talked about all the opportunities here in america, that's why i became famous, that's why i became successful and all of those things. i think it's important always for me to understand that not everyone has the same opportunities that i had. and i wanted to let people know it doesn't matter where you're born, if you're born in detroit or if you're born in philadelphia or baltimore or in it austria, you should have the same opportunities. if you're black, you're white, you're spanish or latino or asian, you should have the same opportunities. so we have to fight for that that we always have the same opportunities. i see firsthand that not everyone has the same opportunities. so this is why i wrote this piece. i wanted to let people know that we are a great country. we are the greatest nation in the world. but we have -- it's a work in progress and there is a lot of work that needs to still be done in order to create this equality. >> to create this equality, right now we saw what has happened in wisconsin. we saw what happened with george floyd. what do you think we need to do as a nation? >> i think the important thing, when it comes to the polico cre. you know, this is not my specialty area, but i mean, i know there was obama administration that republicans and democrats kind of signed off on. and so i think they just have to do the policy, pass those lawes and make it kind of a federal kind of laws because i think what we need is reform. that's number one. number two, i think it is important to create true equality in america because we don't have that. 50 years ago when i came to america, they talked about the same issues and they talked about inquality, and now 50 years later they're still talking about it. and i think that martin luther king said it right when he said to students in 1967. he said we need a blueprint to redo our system and to reform our system in america to create more equality. i totally agree with that because without a blueprint we don't have anything. it is very important that we come up with specific things that we should tackle, specific things we should -- laws we should pass and go after it rather than having the attention go all over the place over police issues, and over the looting and rioting and the protests and the this and the that and then sports teams don't want to play and all this stuff. i think the attention goes into so many different areas. i'm just worried they're going to end and nothing will be accomplished. so i hope this time is different because i think it is ripe now more than ever to really create true change in america and we create true equality for everyone so everyone has the same shot that i have and that so many other people have. >> and i agree, that's why i think we have to focus on laws and we've got to focus on getting people to understand what those are that is fair, at least equality for everyone. let me ask you, do you think this present administration can preside over that? you're a republican. where do you think this administration is taking this country? >> well, i think that it's not just administration. i think it is the politicians in washington, democrats and republicans have to get together and talk about this issue and really come up with a blueprint and then go and pass those laws. and i think it's like, you know, because there is such frustration in america, that people are angry that nothing is getting done. and not just on a black issue and an equality issue, but every issue. there are so many things not being done. if it's immigration reform, if it's infrastructure, health care reform and, you know, what do we do with our huge debt, on and on, the issues go on and on. i think all of these things need to be addressed. and i think it goes back to what you and i talked about, which is the way the district lines are drawn in america. they are fixed, they're drawn by politician, and this is a job security kind of racket, the whole thing, and it doesn't matter if they do anything or not. they still get re-elected and they're still going to be back again. because remember, congress is an 18% approval rating and it is a good 95% of them get re-elected. it's a rigged system. as long as we have a rigged system things will not be taken care of. they are responsible for bringing people together, blacks and whites in everyone together and sit down. this is the time now to sit down and to really work out specific things that can be done in order to move the agenda forward to create more equality, because i tell you, i was governor here in california for seven years, and i've seen it firsthand, especially when it comes to education. it is horrible what a disadvantage black kids, minority kids have in california because of the horrible education they get in compared to privilege schooled, frens beverley hills, santa monica, all those places. as a matter of fact, you know, the williams case in california where the williams family, black family sued the state for not creating equal education, and the state fought them. the aclu had to get involved, and then i became governor, we settled the lawsuit and said this is absolutely right, they're not creating equal education. the state is responsible for equal education and we have to do something about it. we got an extra $3 billion for the minority schools and so on. so it's terrible. and so when anyone says you have the same chances, just alone in education, they don't have the same chance, and we have to do something about it so nationally they should sit down and start working on those kind of issues. >> talking about sitting down, you are doing something with your schwarzenegger institute at usc that i and some big-name people are going to be involved with around race and equality. tell us about it. >> well, i am so happy that you agreed to become and be part of this whole thing. we have at usc a schwarzenegger institute, over 16 to 18, we have a huge event that talks about equality and about the race issues that we are facing here in america and we have the brightest people coming together and twitch, which is the biggest live stream platform in the world is going to cover it for those days. and so we are going to have in the millions and millions of people watching that and it is very important that we really address the issue and that we really come up with principles that we can take to washington and the legislators in washington can go and pass certain laws in order to create better and more equality in america because all the dialogue doesn't help. we need to have action now. the time for dialogue is over. we need action. >> i agree. and one of the things i think is important is that we all don't have to agree on things. you know where i stand, i know where you stand. you look for the common ground that can serve the best for people. at the end of the day, if we don't get anything done, if we don't make the dial move toward really solving the problems, then we all just waste a lot of energy and rhetoric for nothing. and that is why i agree always to talk to people across the aisle if we can reach common ground. i'm not going to give up my believes and my standards and neither will you. but i think that there is a place that if we are sincere, we can meet and get something done. >> i think that we can get it done, and i think it is important that we acknowledge the problems that we have. we have to acknowledge, for instance, that not only in education there is inequality, but just when you want to get a loan for a house, there is no equality. just when you get your house appraised and you want to sell your house, people -- the black families, they have a home, their appraisal comes in $130,000 to $150,000 less and all those things need to be addressed. do you really have the same shot in financial, the same opportunities in jobs, all of those kind of things, there are so many different layers and things that need to be addressed and they need to really get fixed. >> well, i thank you for being with me tonight and i look forward to joining you with the institute and usc on twitch. it's going to be a very important institute gathering under your bringing everyone together. thank you, governor, former governor arnold schwarzenegger. >> thank you. you are exercising every morning. i see you when you post in the gym with the head band around and sweating. i mean, that's the proof that you're actually working out really hard. you're sweating. so this is really great. that's another thing we have in common, is to be interested in being fit. >> that's right. have to be fit. you have to be fit for the fight. >> exactly. that's right, yes. >> thank you. >> thank you very much, thank you, al. >> my thanks to former governor of california arnold schwarzenegger. coming up, california is facing a critical shortage just as fire season kicks into high gear. i'll explain next. but first, my colleague richard lui with today's other top news stories. richard? >> thanks, rev. stories we're watching this hour for you, a somber milestone. more than 15,000 new cases of the coronavirus have been reported nationwide to bring the total number of cases to more than 6 million. nearly 184,000 people have died. the u.s. open is set to begin tomorrow, but without one player. the tournament confirms that a player tested positive. the player in question has withdrawn and is self-isolating. tournament officials say contact tracing has been initiated to determine if anyone must quarantine for 14 days as a result. and residents in southwestern louisiana 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except as a punishment for a crime. incarcerated people in some states are paid nothing at all for their forced labor, while the national average is just 14 cents per hour. and it's not just prison maintenance and upkeep. prisoners do manufacturing, clerical work, and harvesting for federal and state governments, as well as giant corporations who rake in huge profits. it's hardly a new business model. indeed, the last casualties of the civil war weren't buried before the former plantations across the south were transformed into prisons. states locked up more former slaves on trumped up charges to send them back to laboring in the fields. let me be clear. even now black folks are far more likely than any other race to end up incarcerated and forced to labor for pennies an hour, or even nothing at all. this practice has continued during the coronavirus pandemic, even as incarcerated people face fewer protections and massive outbreaks. they are forced to do and to produce things like hand sanitizers, which, by the way, they are not allowed and not permitted to use themselves from disease. in california, inmates are paid between $2 and $5 a day to perform the deadly work of fighting wildfires. but because the state allowed coronavirus to rip through its prisons, california is facing a critical shortage just as fire season kicks into high gear. and even with fire fighting experience who were released early due to the pandemic, they can't pitch in if they want to. former inmates are barred from making fire fighting a career. when you treat an entire population as disposable, locking them away, denying them freedom and exploiting their labor, you might think you can limit the damage to those specific communities. but like fire, injustice spreads. and if we as americans don't finally end this scourge of mass incarceration, california isn't the only state that will get burned. i gotcha. to support us no matter what. whether we see them or not, we need to know that they're 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our country through the multiple crisis we are facing. because donald trump's foreign policy has been a gift to the kremlin. joining me now is my panel michael singleton, political consultant in washington contributor, and danielle moody, host of woke af podcast and cohost of the democracyish podcast. thank you for being with us. danielle, we've talked on this show several times about the president and dealing with a fair election. share michael has also been part of the discussion. this seems to me to not only be out there, but illogical. they're saying that they want to stop the in-person briefings and give them written briefings because they leak information out and they claim wrongly, when they have the verbal briefings. if you're giving them the same briefings in writing, they can leak that, too. clearly this is about editing and trying to, in many ways, censor what kind of briefings you're giving the senate. >> i mean, look, this president has become extraordinarily boldened since he was impeached in december which feels like six years ago. the reality is they are doing everything that they possibly can, out in the open for all of us to see, that trump is going to try his best to steal this election. of course, he doesn't want intel briefings with democrats able to ask important questions why mitch mcconnell hasn't passed by partisan legislation that would safeguard our elections. of course they don't want in-person presentations. why aren't we singing in unison? i'm trying to put a stop to this madness he's trying to put in place for the 2020 election. >> now, sharen this station, ths network earlier today, and he talked about this, the last senate report on -- he really didn't mince words this morning on the intent behind the move. let me show you what he said, get your response. >> it's clear why they want to rely on providing written materials. it obviates the need for them to explain. it doesn't require them to be under oath, and it doesn't get answers for the american people. and i think you're right to point out that, you know, this attack by the president, his false justification for not briefing the congress is just not a false justification. they don't want the american people to know the russians are once again trying to elect donald trump. >> so, they're not under oath if they hand it in writing, and they're not questioned as danielle pointed out. i mean, this is a blatant attempt to allow the russians or whomever, to interfere with our elections with no scrutiny by the opposing party. >> yeah, rev, look, we noah corresponding to recent reports that there are multiple countries attempting to interfere in the upcoming election. they likely already are. i just hope they aren't as effective as they were in 2016. look, i have to be honest with you. this is absolutely disgraceful. the american people need to have the individuals we all elect to represent us to be able to ask very targeted, specific and detailed questions because i can guarantee you when members read through the briefing documents they are going to have questions. and the process of members having their staff write questions to go to the dni, that could take kweeweeks, an entire election. it begs the question why are they trying to do this? what are they trying to hide? if you're so concerned about having a fair election, a cornerstone of our republic, you are going to make sure you do everything you can to make sure individuals charged and tasked with overseeing the process are going before individuals we elect and answer difficult questions because we know for a fact that russia and other entities are going to go to extreme lengths to make sure this november election is unfair. it makes you wonder if individuals on the trump side are potentially trying to hide something. >> now, the other part of this, there's a senate report out, danielle, i think has not been played up enough in the media where they really talked about how there was a lot of interference by russians in the last election. this is not just some issue out of nowhere. the senate intelligence committee found there was interference and there was some in the trump candidacy. this bipartisan report raises the question if this isn't collusion -- it is, this is a bipartisan committee. this is a striking piece of evidence, in my opinion, as to why we need them under oath and questioned as we go into this election. >> you know, the fact of the matter is, reverend, even when officials from the trump administration are under oath, they still lie. it doesn't stop them. you know, we've watched this in testimony and in committee hearings over the course of the last 3 1/2 years. i mean, the reality is this. they're using a global health pandemic to suppress the vote. they're using russian and foreign interference to suppress the vote. they are going to do whatever they can in order to steal this election and we need to be very cognizant of that and very real. they are defunding the post office right in front of our face to make sure donald trump wins. i don't know what other information we need that donald trump is cheating. he literally tells us every single day that he is cheating. we need to do something about it. >> why aren't republicans at least standing up on this issue? because this shouldn't be a bipartisan issue, especially if a bipartisan committee came out with this report. why aren't we hearing republican leaders colluding with the russians? >> rev, i think the answer is simple. the republican party is the trump party. mr. trump does not respect norms. he does not respect playing fairly. he does not respect ethics. it is an election i would imagine in his own mind he should already have won. he should be president four more years, as he says, perhaps even longer. i think it's absolutely disgraceful. we hear people say this is a pivotal election. this one truly is. and i think every american needs to get out there and vote like their lives depend on it. it's very clear at this point that republicans, rev r concerned about the process. they're only concerned about mr. trump is elected. we have to go out and vote in higher numbers. >> thank you, shermichael and danielle, for being with us. >> this was ignited by the police shooting of jacob blake. with that you have reinvigorated push for change from professional athletes and sports teams, teams in other cities in solidarity with kenosha and by extension nearby milwaukee. the wnba continues to lead in this space as it has for years. but as nascar earlier this summer, sports not known for a large black fan base, has gotten the message. even major baseball -- major league baseball, one of the nation's whitest major sports saw the milwaukee brewers, the cincinnati reds and other teams elect not to play last week as violence escalated on kenosha street. but of all the sports to command the public attention this week with the threat of a strike, however short lived it was, the nba. players on several teams led by milwaukee -- by the milwaukee bucks threatened to bow out of the entire playoff season entirely, but ultimately returned to the court last night. their point hopefully had been made. joining me now is jamel hill and carey johnson with a show, stick to sports, on vice tv. thank you both for being with us this evening. jamel, when i was coming along, we had one muhammad ali, we had one jim brown. where does this fall in the history of sports and protest? because we've gone from individual people, when i said ali or jim brown and those in the olympics and other black sports giants worked together in the '60s when i was a kid around racial justice, even later. why this week so significant, why it is to me, is where sports meets american lives. where you have whole teams that decide they're going to take a stand. >> well, reverend, thanks for having us. i think why this protest was so different, this demonstration, i would say, is because it crossed all of sports. this wasn't -- it started in the nba, the milwaukee bucks. they were the ones who engineered this strike or this walk-out. suddenly you see major league baseball. you just said, that's the traditionally major sport. no one would have thought they would get involved. naomi osaka decided to pull out of her tennis match. major league soccer pulled out of their matches. it touches everywhere which leads everyone to believe this is a much different conversation than we had before. there is a long history of black people accustomed to being in this fight alone. what made this week inspiring and hopefully hopeful is the fact that you have athletes of different genders, different sports and they're all coming together behind a common enemy, which is racism. >> now, carey, the nfl regular season begins in less than two weeks. i think we can all agree the president would love to have player protest in that league again. what do you think the nfl will do if this spreads? >> i think that roger goodell this summer made it clear that he got it wrong, his words, not mine. i think that you'll see black lives matter supporters doing what they do best, and that is basically showing that they respect what is happening in this country and that you're going to have to respect their black bodies. i want to make sure we're putting this in context. jemele a moment ago called the protest a demonstration. i'm saying black lives matters as opposed to protesters. there is a connotation there is a problem with the people who are protesting. they're not. they're supporting black liechllives matter. it is important we take people who have huge platforms such as yourself, reverend, and jemele and myself, we speak for black journalists and support them as well. there needs to be a new narrative. there's nothing wrong with supporting black lives matter. i've said this before. if you're exhausted hearing these athletes use their platform, imagine them in another way because you don't see them as black men or black women, so they have to get the message across. i believe the nfl will be bold. there is no other choice. the president will try to pressure them and make them feel as if they're doing something wrong. commissioner roger goodell said the nfl got it wrong. we do support black lives matter. he gave them an open door to walk through and say, what's on your mind? >> now, this quote is from lebron james this weekend. he said, quote, a lot of people don't have individual platforms. and when they go home, a lot of people get muted. unfortunately when we're here on this stage, i think there is no way you can do that. we came down here for a mission. is this moment that we'll see more of these athletes enter that activists or even political space? i asked this question last time you were here. king james for ohio, governor, in ten years? >> well, lebron, he did our premier show. and that was a question that we asked him. like, if he had any kind of political aspirations and he laughed and he said, you know, he was focused on his career and the main priority is changing administrations in this current time. what we didn't hear, karen can back me up on this, we didn't hear him say no. didn't say it was completely out of the realm of possibility. >> in fact, he stumbled over his words, reverend. >> yeah, he did. >> we felt like we got him. he was like, well, let's -- i don't -- i'm not for sure. i was like, oh, we got him. >> oh. all right. well, i'm excited about the show. "stick to sports" on vice. we're going to be watching. i got to tell you about jamel. you know people try to tell you in nice way you're getting older, when i first talked to her, said, my mother really admires you. said what about you? what about you? she said, you're all right. all right. the new show is called "stick to sports" on vice tv. up next, my final thoughts. stay with us. yea, that look of pure terror... ...no, no, the smile... ...and that second right before the first tear comes... ...what?! pizza on a bagel-we can all agree with that. do you want a hug? 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predicted that as we got closer to november, and went through what is bound to be its contentious result, that there would be violence. last night in portland, one person shot dead as supporters of president trump and black lives matter protesters clashed in the streets. authorities are still investigating in late breaking news this afternoon. democratic presidential nominee joe biden issued a statement on the violence exclusively to nbc news. it reads, in part, i condemn this violence unequivocally. i condemn violence of every kind by any one whether on the left or the right. and i challenge donald trump to do the same, end of quote. just moments ago, the mayor of portland had this message to the president. >> do you seriously wonder, mr. president, why this is the first time in decades that america has seen this level of violence? it's you who have created the hate and the division. it's you who have not found a way to say the names of black people killed by police officers, even as people in law enforcement have. and it's you who claimed that white supremacists are good people. >> president trump, for his part, spent part of his day fanning the flames on twitter, continuing to perpetuate the same vicious cycle we've seen throughout his presidency. peaceful not. protesters are met with frost by local police at the president's command or by self-depp utizing white supremacists. in wisconsin, the president dispatches federal troops there. of course, when the violence does occur, right wingers feel vindicated reducing the argument to burning stores and neighborhoods they don't live in. and seldom with the same force denouncing the disproportionate black death we see constantly uploaded to the world. with the police shooting of jacob blake, i agree with them on one point, that the destruction is not addictive to the cause or additive to the cause or part of the cause or to the people that need it most to succeed. but make no mistake about it. the continued unwillingness of the nation to deal meaningfully with race, specifically race and criminal justice, is the axel of all of this, and the willingness to do that work is what made the commemorative march -- in washington with martin luther king iii, president of national action network. it made it so successful and integrated, not behind what they would call black supremacy, but around human rights. and that, for the most part, is what you have on the ground in kenosha, wisconsin, where we start tonight and where president trump announced he will travel on tuesday to meet with law enforcement. but not any of the protesters because in order to do that, he would have to believe that there were fine people on both sides, as he suggested in charlottesville. and that would send the wrong message, one of unity, which is what presidential candidates generally try to do just weeks before a general election. joining me now is wisconsin congresswoman gwen moore. congresswoman, thank you for being with us again today. let me bring to you what the mayor in portland just said. he says that they don't want the president to come. the president has caused -- flamed the tensions. he doesn't want him to come. how do you feel about him coming [ inaudible ] on tuesday? do you want him to come? >> absolutely not. thanks for having me, reverend sharpton. and literally, the faith community has really taken this up. they really see the president's visit for what it is. it's a photo op. he wants to do a commercial there. and take advantage of the pain and agony that this community is experiencing, to stoke, quite frankly, the violence and conflict as we have seen counter protesters literally recruited to this -- to the scene of the protests. and the faith community is getting together as we speak. they had an inter-faith meeting this afternoon. another group, because they are planning what they will do with the presence of donald trump on tuesday because they don't want to feed into the master of chaos. >> his coming certainly will bring about a lot of tension, and he's announced he will be meeting with law enforcement. if you were to meet with president trump, what would you say to him, congresswoman? >> you know, i would tell him, this is not 1968. we're not going to go for the okeydoke. we are going to follow the guidance of many of our leaders, really starting from julia -- miss julia jackson, rather, the mother of the victim, jacob blake, who said she wants peace, focus, she wants justice, but she wants peace, peaceful. and we're not going to buy into the president's law and order campaign in 1968, which, of course, elected richard nixon. we're not going to feed into that. i would say that we're going to, we're going to keep the faith. we're going to keep our eye on the prize. we're going to keep hope alive. and we're going to keep it real, rev. >> let me ask you this. i think one of the things that i've said, and i've always denounced violence as you know, but i think you have to denounce violence on both sides as i said at the march saturday. we have consistently been against looting, but we have not heard "the voice"s that's been against wrong police shooting and you need to be condemning both. and really, if you don't get to the core of the problem, we'll keep going through this particularly when you have a head of state stoking these fires. the other thing i think is giving out misinformation because the president was the one that distorted the background of jacob there in wisconsin and his saying that as president causes injury to the case if there is a case that many of us want. and it does damage to an already hurting family. >> well, rev, you know, there are all kinds of inequities in the way that this has been dealt with. you know, you take a man who, you know, i've always been taught if you shoot someone in the back, that's because you're a coward. and then we saw at the other extreme, you know, an alleged murderer given water and being allowed to go home, being treated well, so similar to dillon roof in south carolina who was taken to burger king afterwards, being treated like a human being. shot seven times and handcuffed -- legs cuffed to his bed. how ridiculous. he couldn't even walk and probably never will walk again. so that is why you have folks like the aclu and others calling for the removal of the sheriff and people who seemed with their rhetoric to be aiding and abetting these vigilantes to avail themselves of the tremendous pain that they caused. and i want to point out unless it's happened in the last two minutes since we've been on tv, i have not heard the president call jacob blake jr.'s name one time nor send out his sympathy for the other victims of this vigilante, including the manho his life, whose arm was shot off. . haven't heard one word of >> absolutely. well, thank you, congresswoman gwen moore for being with us. on the last night of the republican national convention, the gop tried hard to connect president trump with black voters, and in this recent poll, 80% of black americans -- 80% -- have an unfavorable opinion of the president, and that includes people within his own party. i had a chance to sit down with former republican governor of california, arnold schwarzenegger. governor, thank you for joining me this evening. let me ask you, i took very clear note on the 4th of july. you wrote something that dealt with race in america. what moved you to do it and what was your message? >> well, first of all, let me just say to you i'm shocked that you don't have your cigar with you because -- i mean, that's how we met. people allegation ask me, why are you doing this show with al sharpton? i said, we've been good friends. this is crazy. you don't have anything in common with him. i said, what are you talking about? for instance, cigars. we met at havana in new york all the time and smoke cigars. that's one thing we have in common. i said, but -- >> that's right. >> we then realized that there are so many other things we have in common. for instance, i said, he enjoys a clean environment. one time i was sitting there and he was complaining about the pollution out there. and i said, so was i. he wants to have clean air. he wants to have clean water. he wants to have clean soil, all of this stuff like i do. then i realized he wants to have for his children and his grandchildren the same great education as i want for my kids and for my grand kids. then they talked about criminal justice system. we both are believing there should be reforms in the criminal justice system. then we talked about voting, how great it is to go out and to vote on election day, but there are so many times i have the opportunity to vote because they take the polling places away from them and make it very difficult. all of those issues we have in common, we want to vote and we want to have the ability to vote and we want to get loans for our homes and we want to have the equal opportunities. all this kind of stuff. so this is why we are very good friends, so that everyone understands out there why we are good friends because we have so many things in common. i am a republican and he is a democrat. we learn -- we sit down and because i've always -- i was at the birthday celebration. i congratulated america for the birthday on july 4th and i talked about all the opportunities here in america, that's why i became famous, that's why i became successful and all of those things. i think it's important always for me to understand that not everyone has the same opportunities that i had. and i wanted to let people know it doesn't matter where you're born, if you're born in detroit or if you're born in philadelphia or baltimore or in it austria, you should have the same opportunities. if you're black, you're white, you're spanish or latino or asian, you should have the same opportunities. so we have to fight for that that we always have the same opportunities. i see firsthand that not everyone has the same opportunities. so this is why i wrote this piece. i wanted to let people know that we are a great country. we are the greatest nation in the world. but we have -- it's a work in progress and there is a lot of work that needs to still be done in order to create this equality. >> to create this equality, right now we saw what has happened in wisconsin. we saw what happened with george floyd. what do you think we need to do as a nation? >> i think the important thing, when it comes to the polico cre. you know, this is not my specialty area, but i mean, i know there was obama administration that republicans and democrats kind of signed off on. and so i think they just have to do the policy, pass those lawes and make it kind of a federal kind of laws because i think what we need is reform. that's number one. number two, i think it is important to create true equality in america because we don't have that. 50 years ago when i came to america, they talked about the same issues and they talked about inquality, and now 50 years later they're still talking about it. and i think that martin luther king said it right when he said to students in 1967. he said we need a blueprint to redo our system and to reform our system in america to create more equality. i totally agree with that because without a blueprint we don't have anything. it is very important that we come up with specific things that we should tackle, specific things we should -- laws we should pass and go after it rather than having the attention go all over the place over police issues, and over the looting and rioting and the protests and the this and the that and then sports teams don't want to play and all this stuff. i think the attention goes into so many different areas. i'm just worried they're going to end and nothing will be accomplished. so i hope this time is different because i think it is ripe now more than ever to really create true change in america and we create true equality for everyone so everyone has the same shot that i have and that so many other people have. >> and i agree, that's why i think we have to focus on laws and we've got to focus on getting people to understand what those are that is fair, at least equality for everyone. let me ask you, do you think this present administration can preside over that? you're a republican. where do you think this administration is taking this country? >> well, i think that it's not just administration. i think it is the politicians in washington, democrats and republicans have to get together and talk about this issue and really come up with a blueprint and then go and pass those laws. and i think it's like, you know, because there is such frustration in america, that people are angry that nothing is getting done. and not just on a black issue and an equality issue, but every issue. there are so many things not being done. if it's immigration reform, if it's infrastructure, health care reform and, you know, what do we do with our huge debt, on and on, the issues go on and on. i think all of these things need to be addressed. and i think it goes back to what you and i talked about, which is the way the district lines are drawn in america. they are fixed, they're drawn by politician, and this is a job security kind of racket, the whole thing, and it doesn't matter if they do anything or not. they still get re-elected and they're still going to be back again. because remember, congress is an 18% approval rating and it is a good 95% of them get re-elected. it's a rigged system. as long as we have a rigged system things will not be taken care of. they are responsible for bringing people together, blacks and whites in everyone together and sit down. this is the time now to sit down and to really work out specific things that can be done in order to move the agenda forward to create more equality, because i tell you, i was governor here in california for seven years, and i've seen it firsthand, especially when it comes to education. it is horrible what a disadvantage black kids, minority kids have in california because of the horrible education they get in compared to privilege schooled, frens beverley hills, santa monica, all those places. as a matter of fact, you know, the williams case in california where the williams family, black family sued the state for not creating equal education, and the state fought them. the aclu had to get involved, and then i became governor, we settled the lawsuit and said this is absolutely right, they're not creating equal education. the state is responsible for equal education and we have to do something about it. we got an extra $3 billion for the minority schools and so on. so it's terrible. and so when anyone says you have the same chances, just alone in education, they don't have the same chance, and we have to do something about it so nationally they should sit down and start working on those kind of issues. >> talking about sitting down, you are doing something with your schwarzenegger institute at usc that i and some big-name people are going to be involved with around race and equality. tell us about it. >> well, i am so happy that you agreed to become and be part of this whole thing. we have at usc a schwarzenegger institute, over 16 to 18, we have a huge event that talks about equality and about the race issues that we are facing here in america and we have the brightest people coming together and twitch, which is the biggest live stream platform in the world is going to cover it for those days. and so we are going to have in the millions and millions of people watching that and it is very important that we really address the issue and that we really come up with principles that we can take to washington and the legislators in washington can go and pass certain laws in order to create better and more equality in america because all the dialogue doesn't help. we need to have action now. the time for dialogue is over. we need action. >> i agree. and one of the things i think is important is that we all don't have to agree on things. you know where i stand, i know where you stand. you look for the common ground that can serve the best for people. at the end of the day, if we don't get anything done, if we don't make the dial move toward really solving the problems, then we all just waste a lot of energy and rhetoric for nothing. and that is why i agree always to talk to people across the aisle if we can reach common ground. i'm not going to give up my believes and my standards and neither will you. but i think that there is a place that if we are sincere, we can meet and get something done. >> i think that we can get it done, and i think it is important that we acknowledge the problems that we have. we have to acknowledge, for instance, that not only in education there is inequality, but just when you want to get a loan for a house, there is no equality. just when you get your house appraised and you want to sell your house, people -- the black families, they have a home, their appraisal comes in $130,000 to $150,000 less and all those things need to be addressed. do you really have the same shot in financial, the same opportunities in jobs, all of those kind of things, there are so many different layers and things that need to be addressed and they need to really get fixed. >> well, i thank you for being with me tonight and i look forward to joining you with the institute and usc on twitch. it's going to be a very important institute gathering under your bringing everyone together. thank you, governor, former governor arnold schwarzenegger. >> thank you. you are exercising every morning. i see you when you post in the gym with the head band around and sweating. i mean, that's the proof that you're actually working out really hard. you're sweating. so this is really great. that's another thing we have in common, is to be interested in being fit. >> that's right. have to be fit. you have to be fit for the fight. >> exactly. that's right, yes. >> thank you. >> thank you very much, thank you, al. >> my thanks to former governor of california arnold schwarzenegger. coming up, california is facing a critical shortage just as fire season kicks into high gear. i'll explain next. but first, my colleague richard lui with today's other top news stories. richard? >> thanks, rev. stories we're watching this hour for you, a somber milestone. more than 15,000 new cases of the coronavirus have been reported nationwide to bring the total number of cases to more than 6 million. nearly 184,000 people have died. the u.s. open is set to begin tomorrow, but without one player. the tournament confirms that a player tested positive. the player in question has withdrawn and is self-isolating. tournament officials say contact tracing has been initiated to determine if anyone must quarantine for 14 days as a result. and residents in southwestern louisiana are returning to their neighborhoods after hurricane laura. the death toll from the category 4 storm now at least 16. more than half killed by carbon monoxide poisoning from the unsafe operation of generators. more "politics nation" with reverend al sharpton right after the break. so i've been using this awesome new app called rakuten that gives me cash back on everything. that's ebates. i get cash back on electronics, travel, clothes. you're talking about ebates. i can't stop talking about rakuten. pretty good deal - peter sfx [blender] ebates is now rakuten, sign up today. another day, another chance tlet's do this.rd. by making internet speeds fast and reliable. so you can keep up with your customers. by ensuring those speeds have wireless internet backup. so if the power goes down, your connection doesn't. and by covering all your connected devices with serious security. so we can handle this. and this. while you get on with this. and this. be fast, be secure. bounce forward. with 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except as a punishment for a crime. incarcerated people in some states are paid nothing at all for their forced labor, while the national average is just 14 cents per hour. and it's not just prison maintenance and upkeep. prisoners do manufacturing, clerical work, and harvesting for federal and state governments, as well as giant corporations who rake in huge profits. it's hardly a new business model. indeed, the last casualties of the civil war weren't buried before the former plantations across the south were transformed into prisons. states locked up more former slaves on trumped up charges to send them back to laboring in the fields. let me be clear. even now black folks are far more likely than any other race to end up incarcerated and forced to labor for pennies an hour, or even nothing at all. this practice has continued during the coronavirus pandemic, even as incarcerated people face fewer protections and massive outbreaks. they are forced to do and to produce things like hand sanitizers, which, by the way, they are not allowed and not permitted to use themselves from disease. in california, inmates are paid between $2 and $5 a day to perform the deadly work of fighting wildfires. but because the state allowed coronavirus to rip through its prisons, california is facing a critical shortage just as fire season kicks into high gear. and even with fire fighting experience who were released early due to the pandemic, they can't pitch in if they want to. former inmates are barred from making fire fighting a career. when you treat an entire population as disposable, locking them away, denying them freedom and exploiting their labor, you might think you can limit the damage to those specific communities. but like fire, injustice spreads. and if we as americans don't finally end this scourge of mass incarceration, california isn't the only state that will get burned. i gotcha. to support us no matter what. whether we see them or not, we need to know that they're 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our country through the multiple crisis we are facing. because donald trump's foreign policy has been a gift to the kremlin. joining me now is my panel michael singleton, political consultant in washington contributor, and danielle moody, host of woke af podcast and cohost of the democracyish podcast. thank you for being with us. danielle, we've talked on this show several times about the president and dealing with a fair election. share michael has also been part of the discussion. this seems to me to not only be out there, but illogical. they're saying that they want to stop the in-person briefings and give them written briefings because they leak information out and they claim wrongly, when they have the verbal briefings. if you're giving them the same briefings in writing, they can leak that, too. clearly this is about editing and trying to, in many ways, censor what kind of briefings you're giving the senate. >> i mean, look, this president has become extraordinarily boldened since he was impeached in december which feels like six years ago. the reality is they are doing everything that they possibly can, out in the open for all of us to see, that trump is going to try his best to steal this election. of course, he doesn't want intel briefings with democrats able to ask important questions why mitch mcconnell hasn't passed by partisan legislation that would safeguard our elections. of course they don't want in-person presentations. why aren't we singing in unison? i'm trying to put a stop to this madness he's trying to put in place for the 2020 election. >> now, sharen this station, ths network earlier today, and he talked about this, the last senate report on -- he really didn't mince words this morning on the intent behind the move. let me show you what he said, get your response. >> it's clear why they want to rely on providing written materials. it obviates the need for them to explain. it doesn't require them to be under oath, and it doesn't get answers for the american people. and i think you're right to point out that, you know, this attack by the president, his false justification for not briefing the congress is just not a false justification. they don't want the american people to know the russians are once again trying to elect donald trump. >> so, they're not under oath if they hand it in writing, and they're not questioned as danielle pointed out. i mean, this is a blatant attempt to allow the russians or whomever, to interfere with our elections with no scrutiny by the opposing party. >> yeah, rev, look, we noah corresponding to recent reports that there are multiple countries attempting to interfere in the upcoming election. they likely already are. i just hope they aren't as effective as they were in 2016. look, i have to be honest with you. this is absolutely disgraceful. the american people need to have the individuals we all elect to represent us to be able to ask very targeted, specific and detailed questions because i can guarantee you when members read through the briefing documents they are going to have questions. and the process of members having their staff write questions to go to the dni, that could take kweeweeks, an entire election. it begs the question why are they trying to do this? what are they trying to hide? if you're so concerned about having a fair election, a cornerstone of our republic, you are going to make sure you do everything you can to make sure individuals charged and tasked with overseeing the process are going before individuals we elect and answer difficult questions because we know for a fact that russia and other entities are going to go to extreme lengths to make sure this november election is unfair. it makes you wonder if individuals on the trump side are potentially trying to hide something. >> now, the other part of this, there's a senate report out, danielle, i think has not been played up enough in the media where they really talked about how there was a lot of interference by russians in the last election. this is not just some issue out of nowhere. the senate intelligence committee found there was interference and there was some in the trump candidacy. this bipartisan report raises the question if this isn't collusion -- it is, this is a bipartisan committee. this is a striking piece of evidence, in my opinion, as to why we need them under oath and questioned as we go into this election. >> you know, the fact of the matter is, reverend, even when officials from the trump administration are under oath, they still lie. it doesn't stop them. you know, we've watched this in testimony and in committee hearings over the course of the last 3 1/2 years. i mean, the reality is this. they're using a global health pandemic to suppress the vote. they're using russian and foreign interference to suppress the vote. they are going to do whatever they can in order to steal this election and we need to be very cognizant of that and very real. they are defunding the post office right in front of our face to make sure donald trump wins. i don't know what other information we need that donald trump is cheating. he literally tells us every single day that he is cheating. we need to do something about it. >> why aren't republicans at least standing up on this issue? because this shouldn't be a bipartisan issue, especially if a bipartisan committee came out with this report. why aren't we hearing republican leaders colluding with the russians? >> rev, i think the answer is simple. the republican party is the trump party. mr. trump does not respect norms. he does not respect playing fairly. he does not respect ethics. it is an election i would imagine in his own mind he should already have won. he should be president four more years, as he says, perhaps even longer. i think it's absolutely disgraceful. we hear people say this is a pivotal election. this one truly is. and i think every american needs to get out there and vote like their lives depend on it. it's very clear at this point that republicans, rev r concerned about the process. they're only concerned about mr. trump is elected. we have to go out and vote in higher numbers. >> thank you, shermichael and danielle, for being with us. >> this was ignited by the police shooting of jacob blake. with that you have reinvigorated push for change from professional athletes and sports teams, teams in other cities in solidarity with kenosha and by extension nearby milwaukee. the wnba continues to lead in this space as it has for years. but as nascar earlier this summer, sports not known for a large black fan base, has gotten the message. even major baseball -- major league baseball, one of the nation's whitest major sports saw the milwaukee brewers, the cincinnati reds and other teams elect not to play last week as violence escalated on kenosha street. but of all the sports to command the public attention this week with the threat of a strike, however short lived it was, the nba. players on several teams led by milwaukee -- by the milwaukee bucks threatened to bow out of the entire playoff season entirely, but ultimately returned to the court last night. their point hopefully had been made. joining me now is jamel hill and carey johnson with a show, stick to sports, on vice tv. thank you both for being with us this evening. jamel, when i was coming along, we had one muhammad ali, we had one jim brown. where does this fall in the history of sports and protest? because we've gone from individual people, when i said ali or jim brown and those in the olympics and other black sports giants worked together in the '60s when i was a kid around racial justice, even later. why this week so significant, why it is to me, is where sports meets american lives. where you have whole teams that decide they're going to take a stand. >> well, reverend, thanks for having us. i think why this protest was so different, this demonstration, i would say, is because it crossed all of sports. this wasn't -- it started in the nba, the milwaukee bucks. they were the ones who engineered this strike or this walk-out. suddenly you see major league baseball. you just said, that's the traditionally major sport. no one would have thought they would get involved. naomi osaka decided to pull out of her tennis match. major league soccer pulled out of their matches. it touches everywhere which leads everyone to believe this is a much different conversation than we had before. there is a long history of black people accustomed to being in this fight alone. what made this week inspiring and hopefully hopeful is the fact that you have athletes of different genders, different sports and they're all coming together behind a common enemy, which is racism. >> now, carey, the nfl regular season begins in less than two weeks. i think we can all agree the president would love to have player protest in that league again. what do you think the nfl will do if this spreads? >> i think that roger goodell this summer made it clear that he got it wrong, his words, not mine. i think that you'll see black lives matter supporters doing what they do best, and that is basically showing that they respect what is happening in this country and that you're going to have to respect their black bodies. i want to make sure we're putting this in context. jemele a moment ago called the protest a demonstration. i'm saying black lives matters as opposed to protesters. there is a connotation there is a problem with the people who are protesting. they're not. they're supporting black liechllives matter. it is important we take people who have huge platforms such as yourself, reverend, and jemele and myself, we speak for black journalists and support them as well. there needs to be a new narrative. there's nothing wrong with supporting black lives matter. i've said this before. if you're exhausted hearing these athletes use their platform, imagine them in another way because you don't see them as black men or black women, so they have to get the message across. i believe the nfl will be bold. there is no other choice. the president will try to pressure them and make them feel as if they're doing something wrong. commissioner roger goodell said the nfl got it wrong. we do support black lives matter. he gave them an open door to walk through and say, what's on your mind? >> now, this quote is from lebron james this weekend. he said, quote, a lot of people don't have individual platforms. and when they go home, a lot of people get muted. unfortunately when we're here on this stage, i think there is no way you can do that. we came down here for a mission. is this moment that we'll see more of these athletes enter that activists or even political space? i asked this question last time you were here. king james for ohio, governor, in ten years? >> well, lebron, he did our premier show. and that was a question that we asked him. like, if he had any kind of political aspirations and he laughed and he said, you know, he was focused on his career and the main priority is changing administrations in this current time. what we didn't hear, karen can back me up on this, we didn't hear him say no. didn't say it was completely out of the realm of possibility. >> in fact, he stumbled over his words, reverend. >> yeah, he did. >> we felt like we got him. he was like, well, let's -- i don't -- i'm not for sure. i was like, oh, we got him. >> oh. all right. well, i'm excited about the show. 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