Tragedy in charleston. Today a horsedrawn carriage brought the body of state senator and reverend Clementa Pinckney to the South Carolina state house, where he lay in state for four hours, giving mourners a chance to pay their respects. He was very strong in his faith. He loved his fellow man. He cared about his family, and he loved his children. He fought long and hard for righteousness. He fought in the lords honor. I knew the type of life that senator Clementa Pinckney lived, so im joyful even though im sad. Rchl as senator pinckney lay in state, the Confederate Flag still flew on the state house grounds. And a black drape blocked the sight of that flag from the mourners. But as South Carolinas debate over the flag continues, were seeing action all across the country. Alabamas governor ordered Confederate Flags be taken down today from state house grounds. Mississippis republican senators have joined the push to remove confederate imagery if their state flag. More and more governors want to take the flag off license plates, and were seeing a renewed push to protect the right to vote all across the country. Tomorrow marks two years since the Supreme Courts ruling that gutted the Voting Rights act. Today democrats introduced a bold new bill to restore its protections. A generation ago Martin Luther king told people at the church in charleston that Voting Rights was the key to achieving the american dream. Dr. King was right then and that ideal remains true today. Dr. King talked about Voting Rights at Mother Emanuel Church. Today we can renew the fight for those rights in honor of those who died at that church. Joining me now are two sponsors of the bill senator patrick lay hi democrat of vermont and Ranking Member of the Senate Judiciary committee and kongwoman terry sewell democrat of alabama, thank you both for being here. Thank you. Thank you, reverend al. Senator, you referenced Mother Emanuel Church where this horrific act this week had happened, and you referenced them in your remarks from dr. King had spoke there years ago. Could this tragedy, senator, help inspire a new commitment to Voting Rights . Well i would hope that we have that commitment to Voting Rights, like everyone has said this never should have happened. This is america, some of the blatant racism we still see in this country, but lets also, we focus on what happened there, we focus on getting rid of the symbol of the flag. But lets do what is even more important. Lets make sure that the people who can decide issues like the flag, have a right to vote. Right now, more and more blacks hispanics, others in this country, are denied the right to vote. Since the Supreme Courts decision which goes against any reasoning whatsoever. Since that happened youve seen state after state pass laws that are designed solely to disenfranchise voters. Thats in the a nation we should be proud of. Thats a nation we should change. Congresswoman sewell its been a very difficult week not only for charleston but for the whole country, and i remember sitting in the Supreme Court that day at the hearing with you and congressman john lewis, Martin Luther king iii and all of us when one Supreme Court justice talked about a racial entitlement, i remember you and i for years marching across from bridge in selma, remembering how we got this right in the first place, in your hometown. Do you think i think that the senator said it right symbolism is great. I want to see the symbols down but the substance on protecting the right to vote is everything. If we dont get that taking the flag down will only be window dressing. I think youre absolutely right. You know i applaud all the efforts to take down the Confederate Flag. In fact, its a long time overdue, but at the end of the day, its about action. Its about substance over a symbol. And i think that i was honored today to be able to drop this bill, the Voting Rights advancement act with senator leahy on the senator side. So many activists groups have worked hard to come up with a modern day formula that will restore preclearance back into the Voting Rights act. Those of us who are legacies of john lewis and the movement on that bridge we owe it to the food soldiers to not just have a cumbaya moment like we did for the 50th anniversary that day, it was great, a lot of speeches, but at the end of the day, its about what were going to do how were going to rectify the situation if promote racial equality and justice for all. It starts with voter equality. Now, senator, i want to get into some of the details for your new voting bill. It requires 13 states to get preclearance for election rule changes. It says federal approval for new voter i. D. Laws and other changes that target minority voters and public posting of any changes to voting rules with 180 days of an election. This bill goes even further than the others proposed in the past. Why are these protections needed, senator leahy . Because wii seen that when you dont have those protections, reverend voters are disenfranchised. Look at a court that found the texas photo i. D. Law an unconstitutional poll tax, it could have disenfranchised 600,000 voters. Thats the population of my whole state. Wow. This is just ridiculous. We want to make sure every state has to follow the law. If any state doesnt, then theyre going to have to prove to the department of justice why and why they havent disenfranchised voters. We have areas where we know the voters have been disenfranchised over and over lets change that. I mean i would say to those governors and those legislators that think that they get a temporary advantage boyy cutting people off the rolls, what are you doing . Youre diminishing this great country. Youre making it less of a country. Youre doing things that some of the terrorists groups from outside our borders could never do, youre taking away our right to vote. Dont do that. That is not an american way. You know congresswoman, the need for this bill is so high. 21 states have passed voter restriction since 2010 and in 14 of those states next year will be the first time theyll be in effect for a president ial election. So many are saying well i didnt feel the impact. In 14 of those states they dont kick in until now. Yes, youre absolutely right. Reverend al this bill will actually have covered 13 states including the state of alabama. Previous bills that have been introduced while bipartisan only had four states that were covered. And by including alabama, North Carolina and South Carolina as well as mississippi and louisiana, even new york and california would actually be covered under our act. I think its so important that we protect vulnerable communities who deserve to have the right to vote. You know my dad has had a series of strokes over the last ten years, hes been wheelchair bound. Alabamas photo i. D. Law restricted his ability to vote. He was highly motivated because i was on the ballot. But it took us over five hours to get my dad moving and over to the courthouse and up those stairs to get his photo i. D. Wow. I think about all our Senior Citizens who have been disenfranchised by these photo i. D. Laws. This bill that we introduced today, im so proud of senator l hmp eahys leadership on this and everybody involved in writing this bill, its truly ambitious ambitious, but its all about being inclusive. And it ought to be bipartisan, because i remember in 2006 i was among the civil rights leadership there, stood as george bush signed a not the reenactment the reauthorization. But the reauthorization of the Voting Rights bill. I have to go but i need to ask you congresswoman, your reaction to your governor in alabama ordering the Confederate Flag being taken down in alabama . The Confederate Flag is a relic of the past and thats where it should always have remained. I think its important that my governor did take it down off the grounds of the state capital, but i think the more meaningful change is to get all alabamaians and all americans the right to vote. And i think its all about the substance, and not just about symbol. But i am proud that he was able to remove it. It should have been history in the past where it belongs. Its always been a symbol of the fight against, you know abolish abolishing slavery and it doesnt have a place in American History today. I want my governor and my whole alabama delegation to do more than just take down the flag. Id like for them to be supportive of efts like this Voting RightsAmendment Act to be inclusive and to stop the restriction of access to voting all across this country. Thats what we need. Thats what we must challenge going forward. I believe that that is what our reverend pinckney, who i knew would want. Thank you for your leadership here. Thank you. I thank the congresswoman, shes been fantastic in her eloquence about this and shes right. Well the congresswoman is fantastic, period. Thank you both for your time tonight. And for your work on this important bill. Coming up whats the bigger threat here at home . Islamic extremism or neonazi hate . The answer may surprise you. Also how president obama is rewriting the rules about what a lame duck can do. A big victory for him today in congress. Plus bobby jindal is jumping in. Donald trump has momentum and gop leaders are not happy about it. Also how would you feel if your mom put up a billboard celebrating your graduation . Proud . 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And why we continue to create new technology to connect you to the people and places that matter. Now to the Charleston Shooting and what is reveals about terror attacks in america. Today, the fbi said its not ruling out terrorism in its investigation into suspect dylann roof, who wore apartheid flags and apparently published a racist manifesto. Now, a new report is shedding light on other acts of terror in the u. S. Showing he may be part of a surprising pattern. The report reveals extremist killers here at home are more often motivated by antigovernment, or white supremacist views. 48 00 p. M. 48 people in the u. S. Have been killed by nonmuslim extremists. 26 people have been killed by muslim extremists. It gives new context to the shooting in charleston and other attacks weve heard about all around the country. By the bodies, the killers placed a swastika a dont tread on me flag and a note declaring a revolution. Police say this is the man responsible, 40 yearly wage paige, the former singer in a white supremacist band, showed up at this sikh temple and opened fire killing six members. Nlts joining me now, the director of the center for the study of hate and extremism at California State University and jim cavanaugh, retired atf special agent in charge who helped track down the olympic bomber in the 90s. Thank you both for being here. Thanks, reverend al. Brian, some americans may be surprised at this finding. More killings by nonmuslim extremists than by muslim extremists. Whats your take on this . Yes, and we call this availability and unfamiliar event youristics, what it means, our fears arent dictated by the facts. So the manner in which these cases are reported how long theyre reported skews our fears about terrorist attack. So there have been more homicides by antigovernment and racist extremists than by jihadist extremists. However, if you expand it into all casualties including injuries, then the jihadists have a greater number of victims. So it all depends on how you look at the data. The other thing i want to say theres qualitative stuff going on as well. With isis we have the most sophisticated internet recruiting and radicalization effort ever done. So that affects things as well. Theres a danger in using retrospective data but its effective in this regard thats we are not putting enough government at the antigovernment racist extremist end of the spectrum. Were putting all our eggs in one basket perceiving that threat is greater, and thats where were going wrong. And in some areas, it is less, and others its greater, but to only concentrate on that area enables the other areas of the racist and the supremacist and the antigovernment crowd that is doing a lot of the damage and in some areas, more damage. You know jim, researchers asked law officers around the country for their three top terror threats. 74 listed the threat of antigovernment violence. Whereas only 39 listed al qaeda inspired violence. So Law Enforcement is clear about what the more likely threat is, according to this right . Police officers know whats happening in their area they know whos danger whos violent, they know the demographic the nazis and white hate guys out there theyve worked on them with federal officers to try to stop them. So theyre very well tuned in. Just like brian said this stuff happens. Its been going on for 50 years. I mean the connections are amazing. If you look at james early ray, who might have been trying to get a reward offered by a White Citizen Council member in st. Louis to kill dr. King and how this guy, roof is inspired by the council of conservative citizens, a specific hate group that uses that name. Its the same old White Citizen Council, the suit and tie clan that we used to call them and and many other groups. So the government can do much better. Theres a lot of things we can do without changing laws to be much more effective against them. In 2009 the department of Homeland Security was warning about this. Quote, white supremacist lone wolves pose the most significant domestic terrorist threat because of their low profile and autonomy, separate if any formalized group which hampers warning efforts. The report got a lot of critics from the conservative circles, but now does it look like it may have been on target . It was on target, and this is the problem with injecting politics here. It was written by a conservative fellow who and it started under the bush administration. This was not anything political. It was a well done report and it has been vindicated and let me just say one thing. Assessing a threat we have to look at what particular threat for the fast majority of the geography of the united states, for most police departments, the threat is more for domestic rightwing and antigovernment. For major cities its probably more jihadists. Additionally, in a journal that i just edited its written that there seems to be a greater concentration with regard to the active shooter, lone wolf terrorist of the white supremacist, neonazi and antigovernment. So it depends on where youre looking. Both are a thet but what we have to do is understand that injecting politics with respect to the far rightwing threat and wrong, and we must expend more resources to that not just to the threat of jihadists. The republican senator Lindsey Graham of South Carolina said dylann roof had mid east hate in him. Im quoting him. Listen to this. I dont know how you can sit with somebody for an hour in a church and pray with them and then get up and shoot them. Thats mid east hate. Thats something i didnt think we had here but apparently we do. Do americans have to come to grips with the reality that a lot of this homegrown hate and not projected away . This is homegrown, jim. Right. This is homegrown hate. And what happened in charleston we need to also look at it a little differently. This is a targeted assassination of a civil rights leader pastor pinckney. Roof lived two hours away. If he wanted to just shoot african americans, he could have done that in his hometown he drove specifically to the church, mother emanuel, and he asked specifically for the pastor. It was a targeted assassination of the pastor and the other civil rights heroes that died that night. He went there with a purpose. That is not unlike killing of med ger evers and killing dr. King. Were acting like its a random shooting of nine people. Its not. This guys a racist hes a biggot, and he wanted to start the race war, they all say that. But it was a targeted sass assassination of a civil rights leader and i hope we put these names up and marvel them at church and right roofs name in dust and nobody will remember it except guys like brian and me and journalists and anchors, but not america. I hope america will remember the people who were killed pastor pinckney, for trying to make america better. Thank you both forrure ureyour time tonight. Thank you, reverend al i have a Huffington Post front