mosby. >> the findings of our comprehensive, thorough and independent investigation coupled with the medical examiner's determination that mr. gray's death was a homicide which we received today, has led us to believe that we have probable cause to file criminal charges. >> today mosby stressed that her office had done an independent investigation. she laid out in devastating detail how officers allegedly illegally arrested freddie gray failed to put a seat belt on him and neglected to get him medical attention even when it was obvious he needed it. >> upon arrival in the transport wagon driven by officer caesar goodson lieutenant rice officer nero and officer miller loaded mr. gray into the wagon and at no point was he secured by a seat belt while in the wagon, contrary to a bpd general order. following transport from baker street, mr. gray suffered a severe and critical neck injury as a result of being handcuffed shackled by his feet and unrestrained inside of the bpd wagon. by the time officer zachary novak, sergeant white and an unknown officer attempted to remove mr. gray from the wagon, mr. gray was no longer breathing at all. a medic was finally called to the scene whereupon arrival the medic determined that mr. gray was now in cardiac arrest and was critically and severely injured. >> the six officers face different charges, ranging from second-degree murder to involuntary manslaughter to assault. they are facing from 20 years to 63 years in jail. led associated press is reporting that all six officers are in custody, and state's attorney mosby spoke directly to all of those who have marched and protested since freddie gray's death. >> to the people of baltimore and the demonstrators across america, i heard your call for no justice, no peace. your peace is sincerely needed as i work to deliver justice on behalf of this young man. >> and tonight there are people marching again through the streets of baltimore and other cities. the challenge now to take the movement with a message, a specific purpose marching towards specific goals to improve the community. joining me now is congressman elijah cummings democrat from maryland, and i want to say i feel he's shown extraordinary leadership throughout this crisis in baltimore. he's been out there at curfews, calling for peace and for people to go home. congressman, thank you for being here. >> i'm glad to be with you, reverend. >> so what's your reaction to these charges? >> reverend, i was surprised that the charges came out today. i had said at 7:00 this morning on another show that i believe in marilyn mosby. she is a person who lives in my community. she is a friend and somebody i think highly of. she's a distinguished lawyer, by the way, a graduate of tuskegee university, and her record is impeccable. her pursuit of excellence and everybody is aware of it. we elected her to do the job that she's doing, and she's doing it extremely well and i have full faith. i said this this morning before i knew anything that i had full faith and confidence that she would look at all the evidence that she then presented and i determined whether or not she needed additional information. she knew she had the full weight of the fbi and the boston city police department behind her and that she would take the law, size it up with the facts and make the determination that was right, just appropriate. and i said that no matter what she decided, because i believe in her, that she would make the right decision and that's even before i knew what she was going to decide. >> i think you said and i've been down there with other civil rights leaders and our chapters and all, one of the things that i think is important that you touched on i -- i hear people who are giving credit to this and that and even the marches, civil rights people but the first credit goes to the people that voted and elected a state prosecutor who would look at the evidence fair. i don't think we can forget she was elected by the people there, and she -- >> that's right. >> -- did her job there. >> that's exactly right, reverend. a lot of the young people that you see protesting peacefully hear in baltimore. they were the ones that came out and elected her, and, of course she had a wide cross-section of the city electing her, and -- and the thing about it, rev, is that she clearly knows who freddie is. >> right. >> in other words, she -- she looked at him as a human being, and i said today that -- that -- by the way, at his funeral i said did you see him? did anybody ever see this young man as a young fellow trying to be somebody, trying to go forward in life? and today, reverend she saw him, and she did what she thought to be appropriate. >> now, you hear the -- the police unions saying she has a conflict and she should step aside, they want a special prosecutor. how do you respond to that? >> i say to them that they obviously don't know marilyn mosby. they don't know about her integrity. they don't know that if she had thought otherwise she would not have charged them. for her to do this she had to truly believe that this was -- that it was appropriate. keep in mind reverend i have practiced criminal law for many years. >> right. >> and i have not seen a prosecutor lay out their case like she did. she took it from "a" to "z" to show why she was doing what she was do and she was completely transparent. she had already done her own investigation. >> right. >> so, i mean i -- i think they should be confident that they will receive justice and that's part of our system. that's the way the american system works. and for so many people the system of justice never seems to begin. at least it's gotten started in this case. >> now, what is the mood in the streets? you've been out there every day you've been out on the barricades at curfew time. what's the mood there tonight, congressman? >> i think people feel relieved and they appear to be pleased, that they finally see that you know, like i said somebody told me a few minutes ago,un young person said mr. cummings, when we were demonstrating, we never believed that the things that we were doing might result in something that was appropriate and right, and they said well you know we're just glad to see that justice is moving forward, period. and so i think people are relieved. >> i think you're right. congressman elijah cummings, thank you for your time tonight and for your leadership. >> thank you, reverend. >> now i want to bring in msnbc's joy reid. joy, you've been talking to people all day. what are they saying? >> well i can tell you, rev, first of all, not what they are saying but what they have been doing. people across the street behind me chanting literally all day, cars going by honking, people waving out of the cars putting up their fists out of the cars waving bandanas and t-shirts and just a jubilant atmosphere. i can tell you there's more little kids out here than i've seen in the four days that we've been here. people are out here with their children. very happy mood. the men of phi si just did a walk here and people here say this is the beginning of justice. they know this is not finished. not all are confident in the ultimate outcome, but they feel really gratified to see justice move forward. they believe they have been heard by their elected officials, including miss mosby. nick mosby was walking around here and people were giving him hugs. they were a part of this community, as is elijah cummings. >> people the are glad to see it. >> joy reid, thank you so much. >> thank you. now, let me brick in our panel, veteran prosecutor paul henderson and legal analyst and i want to thank you all for being here, first of all. >> thanks for having us. >> major franklin what struck you most about the announcement of charges? let me start there. >> yeah. so i think this is a great announcement. i think it's a great opportunity for coming together, but, you know, the fom, fraternal order of police have said that this is a -- can you hear me okay? >> yes, go ahead. i hear you. >> yeah. okay. the fraternal order of police says that this is a rush to judgment. first of all, this is not judgment. this is in no way judgment. this is enough evidence for charges to be placed probable cause. this is what we do every day in law enforcement when we're working cases. the police officers are citizens first, so just like we do with any other case. probable cause is established while the investigation continues. >> all you need to move forward with a prosecution, and we saw this -- in north charleston not long ago in a police shooting is probably cause. this is not to conclude the case when it goes to trial. just enough for probable cause. >> probable cause. the officers will get their day in court just like any other citizens who have been charged with a crime. state's attorney mosby has that probable cause. you know. there was no probable cause to arrest freddie gray. that's false arrest and there's probable cause, you know regarding the due care. he wasn't seat belted in. there were many opportunities to render aid to mr. gray and his calls for service went ignored. >> paul isn't that critical paul that not only did the prosecutor deal with what she says did and did not occur in the actual vehicle, but she said that the actual arrest and taken into custody of mr. gray was illegal. they had no -- they had no grounds to arrest him or take him into custody in the first place. >> that's absolutely relevant and, you know as i have been saying since day one, that is the linchpin in analyzing this case and it goes beyond what we've been hearing from the police officers union talking about the detention. we're not talking about justifiable detention. we're talking about probable cause for arrest and as we've talked about and i pointed out in the past if the arrest is unjustifiable, there is no justification for what happens beyond that point, and that is a legal distinction that i'm so glad that she made initially as she laid out what the charges would be, and the basis for that which is because there was never probable cause for the arrest in the first place even though there may have been a small knife on mr. gray. that is going to be really important, and that's also why you've seen the expansion beyond not just the review of the officers that made the detention but an examination of the officers that were involved in the arrest and then in the transportation of mr. gray. >> yeah. >> because that's where all the charges are flowing from because everything that happened based on that arrest, that's the problem. that's the real problem. >> let me show the state attorney saying that there is no probable cause for freddie gray's arrest. let me play that actual statement she made. >> yeah. >> officers miller and nero then placed mr. gray in a seated position and subsequently found a knife clipped to the inside of his pants pocket. the blade of the knife was folded into the handle. the knife was not a switchblade and is lawful under maryland law. no crime had been committed by mr. gray. accordingly, lieutenant rice officer miller and officer nero illegally arrested mr. gray. >> now, areva, in their charging documents, the officers wrote that freddie gray had a switchblade. now, what explains this? did the officer just make a mistake? >> unfortunately, rev, they did make a mistake. they made a purposeful misrepresentation trying to give justification for the arrest that was made and i think it's important to -- to distinguish. the supreme court has been clear that in certain high crime areas police officers can chase, they can cause a suspect to stop have a conversation with them even perhaps search that individual, but if there's nothing there that gives rise to probable cause, they have to say good-bye to that individual let them go on their merry way. they cannot arrest them. in this case what officer miller tried to do was to give justification for arresting mr. gray, therefore, giving justification for everything that happened to him during the transportation. and thank goodness that the state's attorney debunked that statement and showed that statement to be untrue and, unfortunately, in this case we found so many of the statements made by the police to be blatantly untrue. >> now, major franklin i want to play you something else the state's attorney said about freddy gray's arrest. listen to this. >> okay. >> these officers subsequently removed the knife and place it had on the sidewalk. mr. gray was then placed back down on his stomach at which time mr. gray began to flail his legs and scream as officer miller placed mr. gray in a restraining technique known as a leg lace. while officer nero physically held him down against his will until a bpd wagon arrived to transport mr. gray. >> major, what is a leg lace and is that normal to be used? >> well it's normal to be -- first of all, leg lace is when someone is laying on their belly, and you bring their legs up behind them and cross them and apply pressure forcing those legs down to the buttocks area and that's how you control their legs. that's only used when someone is combative. but, again, you have to have a reason for restraining him. you have to have a reason for placing cuffs on him and arresting him in the first place, and like it has been stated over and over again, there was no probable cause for that arrested. the knife had been removed, and i want to say something about that knife. there is no mistake. you can't misidentify a knife as being a switchblade if you're a police officer because are you taught to know what a spring-loaded knife is and it was obvious that that was not a spring-loaded knife, therefore not an illegal switchblade so there's no mistake about what was recorded in that report. that has to be intentional. i just want to make a quick comment about the fraternal of police and an opportunity missed here and not just in the community of baltimore needs a time of coming together and healing, but, you know the whole country does surrounding this type of behavior in policing. they missed an opportunity to say to the citizens of this entire country is that we're willing to work with you, yes. we do support officers and their families, but we also support you, the sit sense and we want to come together with you. we want to work with you on doing what is right. they missed that opportunity. >> well, i agree with you. i think that is the responsible thing to do when members in any community and our community are wrong to say we're wrong here but that doesn't just everyone. i think they had the opportunity to say the same that you said today. we all need to come together and if police are wrong, that doesn't represent all police but to just have an almost knee-jerk reaction does not lead towards healing and does not lead towards bringing people together. major neill franklin, paul henderson and areva martin let me thank all of you for your time tonight. >> thanks so much for having us. coming up, a medical experts weighs in on the freddie gray autopsy, and toys's big news about what happened at the end of that ride in the police van. also keeping our focus, when the tv cameras go away. we'll talk to a preacher who is fighting to rebuild. you pay your auto insurance premium every month on the dot. you're like the poster child for paying on time. and then one day you tap the bumper of a station wagon. no big deal... until your insurance company jacks up your rates. you freak out. what good is having insurance if you get punished for using it? 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>> we know things leak all the time. i said all week long folks have to stop leaking information and i said something to the media. listen, just because you get it, you note sensitivity of the situation, you know the level of anxiety in our community and note issues going on in our community right now, you have to be very careful about leaking information and it's very hard in a case like this because ev