Transcripts For MSNBCW PoliticsNation 20150122 23:00:00 : co

Transcripts For MSNBCW PoliticsNation 20150122 23:00:00

Dependent, in this case on some of the dirtiest oil on the planet. Thank you. Politics nation starts right now. Good edge rev. \s. We start with breaking news on the super bowlsized controversy. Did the patriots cheat to get into the bick game . Star player tom brady is breaking his silent. A day after an espn report said that 11 of the teams game balls were deflated during the championship. He says, he has no clue what happened. I have no knowledge of anything. I have no knowledge of any wrongdoing. Im very comfortable saying that. I also understand that i was preparing for a game. Under the circumstances i would never do anything outside of the rules of play. I was very shocked to hear it. I almost laughed it off thinking that was more sour grapes than anything, and it ends up being a very serious thing. Then he was asked pointblank if he was a cheater. I dont believe so. I mean i feel like ive always played within the rules. I believe in fair play respect the league and, you know everything theyre doing to try to create a competitive Playing Field for all of the nfl teams. Every team is you know trying to do the best they can every week. I believe in fair play. So now bow brady and the teams coach say they have no knowledge about what happened in defleagate form but were left with more questions than answers. How did this happen . Who ordered it . Who might have known about it . Joining me now former new york giants head coach jim fassel randall hill and requesting Huffington Post columnist jordan shultz. Thank you all for being here. Randall, do you buy this brady or the coach had no nothing . I buy the coach didnt have any knowledge, but this is like a shell game now, whos on first, whats on second i dont know is on third. At the end of the day i think that brady is the captain kirk of that field. Usuallied quarterbacks get in the way when it comes to game balls. You know during practice in the week, he might have one that feels real good. Hell give it to the equipment guy and say put this one away i like this ball but they communicate with the quarterbacks a lot. Does it seem believable though . You know balls can be put 12 1 2 pounds in there. With cold weather, its like your tires. It will drop a bit. Two pounds, i think thats a stretch. I dont buy it at all. I think Bill Belichick is the ceo of the entire operation. Top brady, the quarterback to not know or understand or feel a difference is crazy to me. The nfl set its investigating, but the league has not contacted brady, listen to this. The league has not contacted you . No but i they may. I think thats obviously their choice. Do you find that odd, if they wanted to put this behind us, and they would contact. Shy. They might. Its odd that they havent. Youre the quarterback and youre the center of the story right now, and the leagues officials investigating havent talked to you, indicates to a lot of people theyre letting this drag on twist in the end. Im not sure. How could they have not talked to him . For the nfl not to send in an investigator in the three days since to me is as laughable as thinking this could actually half in an nfl championship game. I dont understand it. Al i also dont understand how brady or more specifically Bill Belichick are not trying to get to the bottom of this to figure out what happened within their organization. Randall how do you react, that they have not contacted brady . They can give me a callened ill investigate. You have to sit back and wait. The way it looks from the outside in something doesnt smell right. Former players say its definitely an integrity check appeared has to be done correctly. A lot of former players, jim, counter come out and a lot of people are concerned. People look up at they gentlemen as role models. I mean this is serious. Certainly it strikes the hard of the game but i think a lot of times being a head coach, everything is kept quiet. They might be doing certain things finding out a few things. The nfl will want to get to the bottom of it. Jordan, a lot of people say this is serious, even tom brady said it was serious. Tom brady was asked if somebody should be held accountable. Heres his response. Im not the one that imposes those type of accountability. Mind us all that thats not really my job. Obviously i would like to know what happened. Disciplined before the super bowl . He says its very serious. Is it serious . To me they are not taking it as seriously as they need to. I think part of it al were talking about the super bowl. You cant afford to hurt that reputation, but i wonder from a new england perspective, how long have they been doing this . Spygate that was a whole other issue. How long has this been going on . Maybe across the league. . This is an nfl problem that needs to be fixed. Jim, let me ask you, do you think anyone will be suspended before the big game sunday . No, i dont believe anybody will. I think they may want to push this thing past the super bowl which im not sure thats right, but at the time i think theyre going to investigate it, take their time. They will get to the bottom of it and theyll get to the bottom of it in their own time frame. I also know ive been on the other side of that. Ive seen records come out that i know were true so i think theyll take their time. Can they push it past the super bowl without the super bowl happening with a cloud over it . You dont want this incident to be bigger than the game itself. Integrity is definitely on the line. I think they will get it right. Do you think, randall, this is cheating if in fact someone did this is this cheating in your opinion . Without a doubt its cheating. As a wide receiver youre able to grip the ball better. Even jerry rice has said the same thing. Its just like watergate. You know they were going to win that election. But still, why go through this nonsense. Jordan i mean believe it or not, ive heard that a lot. How do you have this kind of situation that will overshadow sunday overshadow the game. If new england bins they won 11 out of 12. If the patriots actually win, can you imagine the aftermath . I would have to great, nobody is going to be suspended. I dont know what the legacy will be, ill be reading jordan monday morning. Troy aikman said quote, its obvious that tom brady had something to do with it. How do you respond to that jim . I dont think its obvious that he did. I honestly dont. Well then thats not a game you really want to do that. So i dont think brady instructed anybody. Could a rogue equipment guy decide hey, i know that tom wands them softer ill do it on my own . Its rare for politics nation to open up with sports but it is politics. Biggest game of the year, everything is watching. Jim fassel randall hill jordan shultz, thanks for your time. Thank you. Coming up much more on the super bowl controversy and what it means for americas most popular sport. Also behind closed doors will they step down after the facetoface meeting. Plus the white house responds to speaker boehners historic snub of president obama. And Mike Huckabee is confronted for his comments about beyonce by a member of destinys child. Its all ahead in conversation nation. [ female announcer ] we help make secure financial tomorrows a reality for over 19 million people. [ mom ] with life insurance, were not just insuring our lives. Were helping protect his. [ female announcer ] everyone has a moment when tomorrow becomes real. Transamerica. Transform tomorrow. What are republicans focused on . Jobs . Education . Health care . Or none of the above. Today they showed they were focused on taking away womens rights. Well talk about that, next. 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Responding to an issue that less than 0. 5 of americans listed as their top issue in the last poll before the new year. For some reasons, republicans dont get it. But president obama does. Today he was in kansas pressing his case for economic fairness on taxes, minimum wage and equal pay for men and women. Congress still needs to pass a law that makes sure a woman is paid the same as a man for doing the same work. I mean cmon now, its 2015. You this should be sort of a nobrainer. Joining me now is congresswoman donna edwards, democrat from maryland. Thank you for being here. Thank you. Congresswoman americans dont believe attacking abortion rights should be at the top of the agenda. So why do republicans believe that . Well, its at the top of their agenda. This is the 55th vote and to do it on the backs of women. Look i think every single day that republicans go without putting a bill on the floor that will improve the lives of working families that will add money to our paychecks every day is a missed opportunity for the American People. They are focused on strengthening the paychecks of ordinary working families. You know gop congressman charlie dent had tough words for how his own party has started he said and im quoting. Week 1 we had a speaker election that did not go as well as a lot of us would like. Week 2, we got into bit fight over deporting children. Week 3, we are now talking about rape and incest. I just cant wait for week 4. Are they their worst enemy . They are. The polls demonstrates that the American People want us to focus on rebuilding infrastructure increasing pay and making sure we close that gap with the wealthiest americans and those middleclass american whorls struggling to take care of that families. How do we create good jobs and send our kids to college. Look at what the republicans are doing. They are so divided and divisive. Following up your point there, it seems theyre attacking abortion rights president obama is selling an agenda that would help families all across america. Equal pay for women, paid sick leave, raising the minimum wage. Child care tax credits. Isnt this a better way to give a boost to American Families congresswoman . Absolutely it is. The fact is that the president has recognized weve had income stagnation for working families for middleclass families and we need to increase those paychecks by making sure we pay enough for people to take care of themselves. Making sure that women make the same ago men. Hes focused on strengthening middleclass families. I dont know what the republicans are doing, but its not the american agenda. This caught my eye. Tom mcclintock said today he opposes raising the minimum wage because many workers arent worth more than 7 an hour. Listen to this. Only if you want to rip the first rung in the ladder of opportunity for teenagers, for minorities, for people who are trying to get into the job market for their first job. The minimum wage is that first job when you have no skills no experience, no working history. How do you respond to your republican colleagues . Hes got the facts all wrong. Most minimum wage workers are actually about 35 years old. And as the president set so clearly, why didnt he try living what happened right after their and now this is how they open up the new session. . Declaring a war on womens rights to choose. It is really shocking especially when all of us now the message the president understands that that we need to be focused on middle class and working families and on strengthening the paychecks and growing jobs that are responsive to our future. Were going to stake focused on rebuilding and strengthening our middle class and making sure that america gets a raise. 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A the Washington Post reporter says sources told him the meeting was, quote, cordial, policy focused and casual. Earlier New York Times reported quote the original idea was for mr. Bush to show his respect for mr. Romney but the meeting stayed on both mens calendars. em as mr. Romney took steps to test the president ial waters. Moves that could make the meeting awkward. Awkward . No. Im sure it wasnt awkward at all. Right, mitt . [ laughter ]. Yeah i was just kidding. It had to be awkward. When a reporter saw jeb bush getting on a flight to Salt Lake City and asked about the meeting, he said i like to ski. I cant comment. Maybe he cant comment, but im sure he had plenty to say. Joining me now are angela rye and dana milbank, thank you both for being here. Gee, angela what do you think they might have talked about . Well you said it was cordial and policy driven. If it was policy driven, it was an allout brawl. We know his policy positions certainly didnt get him a winning position. So i cant imagine they had a cordial conversation. Im sure John Ellis Bush wanted to know he wanted to test the waters, when hes been clear about his own intentions so i cant imagine it was that cordial at all. How do they decide who gets to run and who does . Rock paper scissors . I think they probably spent the first half of the meeting talking about football inflation and the second half about skiing. Can you imagine what do you think about education policy . What do you think, mitt . Surely thats not what was going on there. It would be very good to be a fly on the wall in that room but maybe they didnt even sit down. They might have been just been circling each other with no one letting the other see his back. No matter the outcome of the gop on which candidate, a new poll shows them all losing toHillary Clinton. She beat jeb bush 5441, beat romney 5540, and shes up 53 to 40 against chris christie. Its a pretty significant margin. What does that i say to you at this point . I think despite what happened in november people are certainly not they know Hillary Clinton was secretary of state until this president and could very well continue to move the country in the right direction. I think that mitt romney had his chance. Hes been tried, tested and lost. I time for him to move on. With christie weve seen christiegate happen over and over again, whether its an awkward hug or bridgegate, so i think at this point there are no on or about credible candidates. I would like to see a jeb bush Hillary Clinton

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