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MSNBCW PoliticsNation May 19, 2014

Nada. Zip. Zilch. They have no positive agenda for the nation. Now or in 2016. So instead, conservatives are in full mudslinging mode. Still focusing all their energy on Hillary Clintons brain. If someone undergoes has a terrible concussion and undergoes six months of treatment and theres a blood clot near the brain, the whole thing needs to be laid out and explained. What decisions were made during those six months . Theres a whole bunch to speculate and talk about. Inthe health of hillary should be focused on. Any president ial candidate or Vice President ial candidate is going to have to answer quest n questions about their health. Its an attack and distrkt frenzy. All so they dont have to deal with real issues. Now or in 2016. What i think is going to make her rethink whether she should actually run for president , by the way, i dont think she will, but if she has another month like she just had, given the month she just had, i actually doubt very much whether she actually will run for president in 2016. Oops just let the cat of the bag. Theyre launching all these attacks. Dr. Karl rove has a similar diagnosis. Im not questioning her health. What im questioning is whether or not its a done deal that shes running. And she would not be human if she were not if she did not take this into consideration. Shell be 69 at the time of the 2016 election. If she gets elected and serves two terms shell be 77. After the last election, karl rove should really get out of the prediction business. Whether mrs. Clinton decides to run for president or not, it wont chak this fundamental fact about the gop. The gop, they seem to care more about personal attacks and phony scandals than about the issues that matter to the american people. Joining me now are msnbcs krystal ball and salon. Coms joan walsh. Her latest article is called karl rove digs himself deeper. How former gop savior became damaged goods. Thank you both for being here tonight. Thanks for having us reverend. Krystal, did priebus and karl rove slip up and tell the truth . Are all these attempts to scare her from the sflas. I think its a little bit of that. I think theyre trying to remind her just how awful the scrutiny is when youre in the media spotlight, when youre under the microscope. During the Obama Administration, the republicans used the clintons as a foil for obama. They used them to say these are the good democrats we could work with, unlike this kenyan, muslim socialist, whatever else they want to call him. Now theyre starting to turn the ship around and go back to demonizing Hillary Clinton. Which is natural stance for them. The other piece i think theyre doing here is republicans are very dispirted about 2016 because hillary is so formidable. Shes so far ahead in the polls. And they have a weak bench. They have a weak bench so theyre trying to convince themselveses that shes not going to run. She has some brain problem thats going to make her unable to deliver the goods. Its their best hope so theyre clinging to it. Karl rove, heres what you wrote about karl rove and his attack on hillary. Quote, he knows the gop has no logical route back to the white house except to hobble its ablist democratic rivals, so this is a sacrificial mission by rove. Hell try to take down clinton, even if he goes down with them. Now, thats a very interesting statement. Just how ugly do you think karl rove is willing to get . I think pretty ugly, you know . Now hes backtracked a little bit. Now hes asking questions. He said this weekend im not asking kbes, im not suggesting shes hiding anything. Im just expressing human concern about another human being. Thats so not true. The day he did this, the day he launched this attack, he went through this whole Conspiracy Theory and ended with we need to know whats up with that. So he moves around, he changes stories based on whats selling and whats not selling. But hes also, i think, taken some real hits and hes showing hes willing to do that, because his party, they moved away from things they used to believe in, right . They used to routinely not routinely, but they would rasz the minimum wage, they used to believe in infrastructure. For both job creation and for there are some things that were bipartisan that they would do. Just a matter of government. They dont do those things anymore. They have nothing to tell the american people. They have no story. They have no way to address the concerns that you opened our hour with. And so its just smear her and hope for the best. You know, krystal, karl rove says he has no regrets, though, about questioning Hillary Clintons health. Watch this. Any regrets . Is. No, no. Look, my point is this. Shes a human being. You would not a be human and not have a serious brain injury like this was and take it into consideration if youre thinking about going and doing what she might do. So this was concern for her . Yeah, look. [ laughing ] yes, im concerned as one human being for another, but im more concerned about people saying shes in. This is a done deal. Im not so certain. Even the folks over there at fox find it laughable that karl rove would have, quote, concern for Hillary Clinton, krystal. Im sure hillary can really grateful that karl rove is looking out for her and her well being. This is the goal here, right . He puts this narrative out there about, well, maybe shes too old and maybe her health isnt good enough. And even as he sort of stands back and says im raising the concern as a human being. Im not even really asking questions. Even as hes doing that, people are talking about it. And its being raised as a lit issue. And thats the point. He doesnt have to get electriced to anything. He doesnt care if people hate him for doing it. Lynne cheney, hes still pushing the theory that the clintons were somehow behind the Monica Lewinsky recent vanity fair article, joan. Listen to this. I was really paying the clintons a large compliment. I was saying how clever they are politically and that it seemed to me, if you had something that might come up during the campaign, that would be damaging, it was very smart to get it out of the way early. So thats my case, chris, and im staying with it. You know, the clintons are really lucky they have her complimenting them and cheney. And they have karl rove concerned about them. All of this care theyre giving them. The kindness is overflowing when it comes to Hillary Clinton. Im so imprezzed. Karl rove gave a radio interview to hue hewitts take. His take was im concerned about you. Have y have the dastardly democrats set you up. Play the victim and blame those terrible democrats. But the problem is this, theyre starting to believe it. And part of the problem, krystal is they are incredibly polarized and divided within the party. Itself. I mean, majorities of Republican Voters support immigration reform, background checks on gun sales and raising the minimum wage. The republicans in congress are blocking all of those things. Is the only thing that conservatives agree on is dont that they dont like Hillary Clinton and they really dont like president obama . Is that the substitute for unifying agenda . Pretty much. Essentially what the Republican Party has been running on and has been fuelled by is emotion. Right . Anger, fear. So theyll use these conspiracy theories, theyll use coded langua language. The other parts of the their platform that should be substantive economic pieces in particular are completely bankrupt and have essentially been exposed. Unemployment insurance still isnt extended. Theyre talking crazy. Thank you both for your time tonight. Thank, reverend. Be sure to catch crystal on the cycle weekdays at 3 00 p. M. Eastern right here on msnbc. Coming up, this mississippi political blogger arrested for allegedly sneaking into a hospital and taking a picture of senator cochrans sick wife. Now there are all kinds of questions about the senators challenger. Did the Mcdaniels Campaign know about this ugly hit job . Plus, remember crazy uncle sam, those ads that tried to scare young people away from Getting Health Coverage . Well, hes back. And hes apparently a very big spender. And can you be too rich to jail . How does this wealthy man avoid jail time after his seven duduin vixs . 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But a new voice mail is raising more questions, specifically what did the Mcdaniel Campaign know. At about 7 45 on saturday morning, chris Mcdaniels Campaign manager left this message for cochrans Campaign Manager. I know that chris is very upset about it, and we just felt like he needed to have a personal phone call, certainly with you, but he really wanted to have one with senator cochrane if that could be at all possible. Chris is very upset. But how did he know . The story wasnt reported on the clarion ledger website until 9 24 a. M. And at 9 47 a. M. , mcdonnell mcdaniels spokesman said he knew nothing about the arrest or the news. Even mcdaniels himself told a reporter that morning that he had no idea about the story, saying, quote, i dont guess i had been awake long enough to see whats happened. He also said the man in custody doesnt ring a bell. But heres a photo that kelly posted of himself with mcdaniel on facebook. That man, he says, doesnt ring a bell. The Mcdaniels Campaign said they would never in a million year condone kellys action, but is there more to the story . The investigation is on in mississippi. Joining me now is alexandra jaffio, a reporter for the hill. Thanks for come on the show tonight. Thank for having me. Now, you were at an event with mcdaniel when the news broke. When you asked him about it, what was his reaction . He did seem visibly surprised. He seemed like he hadnt heard the news. He definitely hadnt seen the report. I actually broke about 9 30 and i was reading it on my phone watching him talking to supporters and i confronted him with it. Im reasonably sure that he hadnt seen the news, but of course, that was contradicted by the voice mail. Now, so you were there at 9 30. He seemed surprised. Said he had no knowledge of it. Yet Mcdaniels Campaign manager, who left the voice mail was actually at that same event with mcdaniel. Doesnt that make it even more odd that mcdaniels didnt know anything about the news when the Campaign Manager who had left that voice mail two hours before was standing right there at the event . Right. Well, what the Mcdaniel Campaign has said happened was she kind of briefed him very bare bones. Gave him just a notice that this was going on and they needed to call the cochrane campaign before she did end up calling him and they gave him a fuller briefing later in the day. When i confronted him with these details, it was a little bit muddy and he wasnt really sure what had gone down and perhaps didnt draw the connection between what he was told earlier and the story i confronted him with. Hes been standing by that series of events. So when she left the message at 7 45 that he was upset about what had happened and wanted to talk to cochrane, theyre saying he really didnt know what had happened. Theyre saying he dependent know the full grasp of the details. So what did he want to talk to him about if he didnt know what had happened. Thats the question. The impression was that she gave him a notice that she had to call the Cochran Campaign about an issue but didnt really give all the details. Thats when i confronted him about the details it seemed like he hadnt learned about the situation. Breitbart is saying that they knew about this picture of cochrans wife for weeks now. What can you tell us about that . They came up with these new emails, the day this video went online. And she blasted out, you know, Campaign Staffers saying how can we get this taken down, this is appalling . We dont want this going on in the campaign. Its clear that melanie had known about this for weeks. The question is, you know, did she confront senator mcdaniel with this . What else, you know, did she know going forward. And those are actually questions that cochrans campaign has raised. Now, theres another part of the voice mail thats getting attention. Take a listen. We dont know this guy. We have no idea who he is. Hes been arrested by the madison police. Its one of the most despicable things i have ever heard of. We have no idea who he is. Except later in the same message, she says this, listen to this. There was some stuff several months ago where this guy was doing some insane stuff online. We found out about it, chris and i immediately sent a bunch of volunteers to try to find who was the source of just a lot of ugly rumors, and masty staff and we wanted it squashed. What do you make of this contradiction. We dont know the guy, we dont know who it is. Then in the very same message, we know the guy did some strange stuff online a while back. What do you make of this contradiction . The impression was hes very prolific in the conservative activist class. Hes well known among those folks but not at all affiliated with the campaign, not friend with any campaign volunteers, hasnt campaigned for them. Still ahead, too rich to jail . 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And i dont think mr. Putin has any hesitation at all from the standpoint of the american president of changing his course of action. I think hes taking advantage of this opportunity when he thinks we have a weak president to try to restore some of the old soviet union. Anyone else think its funny getting Foreign Policy expertise from dick cheney . I seem to remember president putin doing something similar back in 2008. When george bush and dick cheney were in the white house. The fact is that when you were in the white house, russia invaded the

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