Transcripts For MSNBCW On Assignment With Richard Engel 2020

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million people, the virus was spreading. at first it seemed like a local problem. >> a newly identified deadly virus from china. >> the 45 cases have been reported in china, including two deaths. >> the chinese city of wuhan locked down. more than 600 infected. and it's spreading fast. fear it could spread further. >> it was over there, in china, where frankly they've had a lot of outbreaks over the years. >> china has reported 136 cases of the bird flu. >> emergence of the h10 and 8 strain follows that of the fatal h7 and 9 strain last year. >> the authorities are closing poultry markets in guangdong. >> china's desperate bid to control the latest bird flu virus. >> but this was no bird flu and the world soon began to take notice. st. mary's hospital in london has a long and storied history fighting disease. penicillin was discovered here in 1928. it revolutionized medicine. today, researchers here from imperial college are working for another radical breakthrough. >> i think we will see technology that completely changes the way vaccines are being made, and covid-19 is allowing us to try this technology. >> back in january, professor robin shattock was watching the news coming out of china with growing concern. >> at that stage it wasn't a pandemic. it was an outbreak in wuhan. at that stage when you've got a few thousand cases, it could be a blip, it could go away. >> why did you think that it would just be a china bug instead of a worldwide pandemic initially? >> because we've often seen small outbreaks of different viruses that come and disappear. >> but this virus wasn't disappearing. it was multiplying exponentially. >> when i heard about wuhan, i didn't pay that much attention to it until it was clear that it was escalating. >> professor peter piot has spent his long and celebrated career fighting infectious diseases. he and a colleague discovered ebola in the 1970s. piot was a pioneer in the battle against hiv and aids. >> for years i have been saying we have to be prepared for the next big one, an epidemic of a new virus that is transmitted airborne, respiratory transmitted and we are not prepared for it. sars killed hundreds of people but it was respiratory transmitted. and i saw in wuhan there were already far more cases than we had in total, had had with sars. and then i thought we're in trouble. >> i think it became that global pandemic because it's transmitted so easily. you've got asymptomatic transmission. and so it was almost impossible to lock the world down in a way that would have kept it contained in one part of the world. >> is that its hidden strength, that it can be passed on by people who don't know they're sick? >> yeah. i think that's the reason it got transmitted very efficiently. >> as the virus spread from one unsuspecting carrier to the next, china swung into action. its first move was to silence and discredit the doctor who sounded the alarm. when that didn't work, the government swooped in with all its authoritarian might. if you had a fever, you were found. and if you refused to go quietly, you were rounded up. and if you still refused, you were barricaded inside your home. but china did something else that few people noticed. it made a call for help, an appeal to the world, written in genetic code. >> each virus, just as each individual, we have a unique set of nucleic acids. this is the genetic code that really makes who we are in addition to our environment and our education. and you can identify a virus exactly on that kind of code. >> just like people, viruses are biological formulas. they are nothing more than strings of genetic code. and on january 10th, just weeks into the outbreak, chinese researchers did something extraordinary. they cracked the virus's code and published that code online. >> on the basis of that sequence you can also tell which parts of the virus are going to be important for the immune response, how we react to it. if you have that sequence, you can do a lot of things. >> that really provided everybody in the world with a blueprint that they could use for their different vaccine technologies. in many ways, that was firing the starting gun for all these different vaccine candidates. ♪ >> this is the code china published online. this is sars-cov-2. 30,000 characters. the exact formula for what has been disrupting all of our lives and killed more than a million people. by putting the formula online, china was saying to the world, here's the enemy, now help us defeat it. well, the best and brightest minds saw what china had posted and took up that challenge. >> once you have that code, the first thing you can do is to say this is new, we've never seen this virus before. and on the basis of that code you can replicate it in the lab. >> we felt actually we should stand up to the plate and make a vaccine. but that's when we started to get going. >> the race for a vaccine had now begun. and the first step was understanding the virus in minute detail. the coronavirus is a tiny sphere, so tiny that 100 million of them can fit on a pinhead. >> you can't see them under a normal microscope. viruses cannot survive without a living cell, whether that's animal or human or a plant cell, because they are incomplete in their survival mechanism. and that's why they always will be looking for human beings in the case of human viruses to survive. >> the coronavirus has a unique way of getting into our cells, through the spikes that act like little claws. >> they're called coronaviruses for a reason. you know, it's a crown with spikes. and it's these spikes that really are going to penetrate into the cells. >> they work as a kind of attachment process to gain entry into cells. so if you didn't have those bits on the surface, the virus would be dead. >> because it would be smooth. it would just move along, it wouldn't attach to anything. >> so the surface protein that the spikes recognize a receptor allows the virus to dock onto cells, gain entry into those cells, and initiate the infection process. >> the spikes are the virus's greatest weapon, but they are also its greatest weakness. and these tiny spikes are the target of every major vaccine in development. vaccines were first invented to treat smallpox 200 years ago by the british doctor edward jenner. >> generations of british children were vaccinated against smallpox. >> the national academy of sciences says there was not a single case of smallpox reported anywhere on this planet last year. >> and since they were first introduced, vaccines have barely changed. >> vaccines are actually biological products that try to mimic a natural infection. so you inject could be against measles or whatever, it's a fake infection. you fool the immune system. the immune system thinks that oh, i'm infected with measles. >> most of the vaccines we get and give our children today are for mumps, measles and rubella are simply dead or weakened versions of the harmful viruses. we trick our bodies into thinking they've been infected to trigger an immune response. our bodies do the rest. vaccines have saved more lives than any other medical discovery in human history. making vaccines has been a slow and labor-intensive process. they had to be grown, often in chicken eggs, one at a time. now, technology is changing everything. in the race for the covid vaccine, scientists are going right to the genetic code. there are more than 100 vaccines in development. they have different approaches, but they all have the same goal, to get our bodies to recognize those little spikes and prevent them from locking on. >> our body reacts because it's a foreign invasion. and one part of the defense are so-called antibodies. these are the ground troops. what they do is they protect the cell by basically coating the whole virus with antibodies so that the virus can't penetrate the cells. >> these antibodies lock onto the surface of the virus onto those spikes and mean that the virus can no longer get into the cell. so it's keeping it outside of the cells and rendering it noninfectious. >> finding a vaccine is the key to reopening our societies. it is the holy grail of medicine today. and the biggest surprise may be that scientists created a vaccine almost as soon as the virus broke out. back in january, when china published the genetic code online, professor shattock fed those 30,000 characters into a computer. the next day, he had a design for the vaccine, a recipe on a computer at least to kill the coronavirus. >> that's the speed at which people can move in terms of that design element. then the next thing is to take that computer-designed construct and actually put it together in a laboratory. >> to take it off of the computer screen and put it into the real world. >> yes. and that took a couple of weeks, to do that, to verify that it was working in the laboratory and then start looking at whether it actually induced an immune response in animals. >> but even that's mind-blowing. so you get the formula. in a day the computer spits out a code for the vaccine. and then just a few weeks later you have a product, a liquid in the real world that is a prototype vaccine. >> yeah. >> so here at this unassuming lab and at several laboratories worldwide, scientists had not just an idea for the vaccine, but a real prototype vaccine capable of neutralizing the coronavirus within weeks of the outbreak. >> but what we didn't know is whether it would work. whether it was safe. now, the real challenge is will it produce the right immune response in humans, and then will it be protective. >> and herein lies the problem. scientists were sure they could kill the virus, but would the cure kill us in the process? at the end of january, dozens of laboratories in asia, europe and the united states were focused on making a vaccine that was both safe and effective for the entire world. with so much at stake and so much to gain, the race for the vaccine got dirty 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a small number of brave volunteers try the drug to see if research should continue. phase two, an expanded number of volunteers take the vaccine, their health monitored regularly. and phase three, does it work on a large scale? tens of thousands of volunteers are given the vaccine to check for adverse reactions, which could be rare, but important when trying to vaccinate the entire world. russia only went to phase two and declared victory. >> i don't find it acceptable that you take shortcuts, injecting lots of people with materials that have not been really well documented for efficacy and safety is not something that would be acceptable here. if we would try to do that, it would be not only unethical, but also it would deter people from being vaccinated. >> if i didn't believe in the vaccine, if i didn't understand the science behind it, i would never have injected myself with it. >> kirill dmitriev is the head of a russian state-controlled investment fund. he's part of putin's inner circle, and he's the pitch man for russia's main vaccine. what would you say to people who are skeptical, say i don't want to take some russian vaccine that's been rushed through the system? >> of course, people will have a choice. i think, again, we need to make sure that different countries have a choice, have all of the data available. you know, we could have been very hidden about our vaccine. we could have just vaccinated our people, not sharing the nature of the vaccine, not sharing information. but this is not the approach we are taking and i think, again, this is something that has to be respected. >> putin said he even gave his daughter the vaccine. putin has two daughters. he's very secretive about them. one is believed to be a scientist. the other, a competitive rock 'n' roll dancer. he didn't say which one took the vaccine. russia wasn't alone. china has gone even further. it has begun rolling out its vaccines, giving doses to medical personnel, the military and students. china seems to be doing some phase three trials, the ones that test for side effects in large populations, on its own people. >> clearly, the national prestige, projection of scientific prowess, my system of government is better than yours, capitalism versus communism, all of that is at play. i think that the race for a covid vaccine is the race for the moon on steroids. >> lawrence gostin is a professor of global health law at georgetown university. he was also on the board for pandemics at the world health organization. >> it really is becoming a geopolitical race for bragging and boasting rights. >> i don't think we should fool anyone to think there is a collaborative mindset across the globe with nation states in this effort. it's a battle space economically, geopolitically and medically. >> bill evanina is the top counterintelligence official in the united states. he's the u.s. government's most senior spy hunter. >> we continue to see efforts by both russia and china and others to not only beat us to the race with producing the vaccine, but also aggressive attempts to steal what we are producing in the trial faces, in the research and development phase. >> is right now the vaccine the primary target that hackers and cyber spies are trying to discover, steal? >> there's probably not a whole lot that's more important in the world right now than the race for this vaccine. ♪ >> hackers almost certainly linked to russian intelligence have been targeting scientists in britain who are carrying out research into a vaccine for coronavirus. >> we've sort of been seeing targeting from a whole range of actors. the one we called out specifically was russia. >> paul chichester heads operations at the uk's cybersecurity division at gchq, britain's equivalent to the nsa. >> we really saw sort of a pivot, if you like, from perhaps more traditional targets to take an interest in the uk's response to coronavirus when sort of the world was really i think realizing just the significance and importance of the situation that it found itself in. >> chichester's unit spent months monitoring russia as its agents picked and probed the computer systems of the united kingdom's top laboratories. these are direct operatives working for the government? >> in this instance, we believe it is russian intelligence services directly. >> british officials say they caught the russians as they tried to steal data from oxford university and its vaccine manufacturing partner, astrazeneca. >> in terms of dirty tricks, i mean, specifically what we've seen and assessed is potentially theft of intellectual property and the data behind trials and some of the research. >> american authorities and british authorities have accused russia of hacking, of trying to steal scientific information regarding vaccines. what do you say to that? >> i think false accusations are by some of the people who are afraid of russia having sort of a sputnik moment with the vaccine. of being the first out there when there is nobody else out there. but we, again, are not focused on being the first. we are focused on international cooperation and we believe in the time of such difficulty the world needs to put the previous political barriers and biases aside. >> but while russia claims to be the epitome of global cooperation, state media have spread disinformation and cartoons smearing rival vaccines, suggesting they could turn you into monkeys. how successful have they been? how much have they managed to steal, how much have they managed to disrupt, destroy, confuse? >> i really can't get into what they've potentially stolen or what their operational success is, but let's just say they've been super aggressive. some in our community would say a lot of the work being done in russia and china has already been predicated upon stolen research here in the u.s. >> how do you know that? >> we see a lot of the same signatures on our vaccines as we see on their vaccines. there's only one place they could have gotten it from. >> in july the u.s. government formally accused two chinese government-linked hackers of stealing american covid vaccine research. the u.s. also ordered closed the chinese consulate in houston, texas, labeling it a center of espionage. as chinese officials were leaving, consulate staff could be seen burning what appear to be documents outside the building. >> i would say covid right now has become the geopolitical economic battle space as we move forward to the next couple years. 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is that frightening? how do you understand it? >> it's anxiety. i think that's the feeling amongst most people. it's just this deep-rooted anxiety. and yet we're starting all over again. >> how are you holding up personally? >> okay. i've got an old victorian house that i'm renovating so that keeps me busy. when i come home from work, i sort my house out. i've got my family. i've got my children and my partner and my dog. they keep my spirits up. >> you're able to find some relief for the stress. >> both my children, 23 and 19, both had covid. they were both tested positive. they were quite sick at home. >> ready, steady. >> a vaccine, what would it mean for you? what would it mean to this hospital? >> a vaccine would be a lifesaver. >> would it give you more confidence? >> nurses and doctors feel quite anxious every time you come to work. you're putting yourself at risk and you're going home and putting your family at risk as well. >> and the risk is compounded over time. >> yes. every day you're having to risk. but now it's every day for months and months and months. >> and months. >> the only way to break this covid cycle is a vaccine. we know scientists had a prototype for a vaccine right at the beginning based on the virus's genetic code that china posted online. >> in some ways, the fast and easy part is making the vaccine, because it's all about genetic code and synthetic biology. so we were able to create a prototype within two weeks. so very, very quick. >> we're injecting biological materials in healthy people and we are going to inject that in billions of people who need it to save the world from this pandemic. so we can't take shortcuts. the only way to find out is to observe in the utmost detail tens of thousands of people for long enough that we have certainty that this vaccine is really safe. >> and the best place to test the vaccine is where the virus is out of control. covid hit south africa hard. >> south africa has reported a sharp rise in the number of coronavirus infections. nearly 11,000 new cases were reported on saturday. >> south african officials have warned that the country's health system is approaching the brink. >> the coronavirus storm has indeed arrived, as we said it would. >> especially in the townships. elvis mathingua is a life insurance salesman in soweto, the township once famous for resisting apartheid. today it's battling covid. >> how are you? good. >> i just wanted to find a cure because now this covid-19 has changed south africa a lot. >> elvis is one of 5,000 south african volunteers taking part in trials for vaccines from the uk's astrazeneca and the american drug company novavax. elvis sees the trial as an opportunity to help his generation's struggle. >> i decided to volunteer to get this cure so that i can be able to assist the day all of south africa with this new vaccine that we are trying out now. >> but there's another reason elvis is volunteering. the trial comes with free health care. >> there's a lot of things that were happening to me besides the trial of the covid-19 because they will be testing like everything, the blood. because if you go to a doctor and want to do those tests personally, you pay a lot of money. we don't have that kind of money. >> but many south africans are angry. they feel drug companies are treating africans like guinea pigs. >> i'm not happy at all. this feels like 1981 all over again, or the 1980s all over again, when the aids pandemic broke out. it's a replay, but this time they're doing it in our face. >> resentment over testing in africa is turning people against the vaccine. >> would you take the vaccine? >> never. >> no. >> the vaccine for me is like they are going to kill black people. >> elvis's own family won't see him. >> like my big brother. i've told him on saturday that i started with the study of the vaccine. and then if you are -- on monday i'm going back there. let's go back there. he refused. he said no, no, don't go there. they'll inject you with this covid-19. >> but even with the virus raging in south africa, elvis never caught it. so researchers don't know if the vaccine he's taken works or not. his trial is inconclusive. in the united kingdom, they've come up with a controversial way to guarantee results. a secure wing has been set up at london's royal free hospital where volunteers will be infected with the coronavirus on purpose. 90 healthy volunteers aged 18 to 30 will come to the hospital, get vaccinated, and then tilt their heads back and be given tiny droplets of the coronavirus. in a normal trial the volunteers might never contract the virus. here the virus meets the vaccine every single time. which is why it's called a challenge trial. it's bold. it gets results. but it is not for the faint-hearted. >> instead of going about your everyday life in the community, you would instead have a stay in a biocontainment facility where you would be intentionally exposed to sars-cov-2. >> sophie rose is a graduate student from johns hopkins university living and studying in the uk. >> is anyone signing up to do this, raising their hand saying sure, infect me with coronavirus? >> over 30,000 people from 150 countries. we have found ourselves in a situation where we have hundreds of millions of people facing abject poverty. we have economies that are falling apart and countries that aren't functioning properly. and a lot of that really can't be resolved until we see a vaccine that is distributed on a level that we've never had to do before. we think it's of utmost importance that we get that happening as soon as possible because that gets us one day sooner to getting back to normal. >> what happens if one of these volunteers dies? >> when these sorts of trials are designed and you're consenting people and explaining how this works, they are definitely informed and it is acknowledged that there is a risk of death. >> you're not a supporter of challenge trials. why not? >> i'm not a supporter of challenge trials at the moment. because what do they do? they inject healthy volunteers with the virus for which we have no cure at the moment. if we would have a cure, an effective treatment, i would be all for it. >> but they're volunteers, young men and women sign up to go to war. >> that's a good point. but we also have medical ethics. and ethics say that you should not harm people if there are no backup to save them. can you go into experiments that used to be done that we don't do these days anymore. >> but no matter how much risk volunteers are willing to take, the vaccine's success or failure depends entirely on distribution. hey, dad! hey, son! no dad, it's a video call. you got to move the phone in front of you like... like it's a mirror, dad. you know? 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>> vaccines are not going to be the silver bullet. it's unlikely that certainly the first generation of vaccines are going to protect 100%. the fda has said that if it protects 50% of people against severe disease and dying from it, then it can be approved. so it's not necessarily going to stop the spread of the virus. >> if you want to control the virus spread by blocking transmission, then you need to probably have very high rates of vaccination. that may need to be 70%, 80% of any population. >> it's like the fire brigade. if the house is on fire of your neighbor, you can't say i don't want to support the fire brigade because it's only my neighbor's home. no, we need it all. >> luckily, there is a worldwide fire brigade. >> the co-vax pillar aims to ensure that every country gets fair and equitable access to eventual covid-19 vaccines. >> its name is covax, an international vaccine coalition which may be the most important initiative today that most people have never heard of. american epidemiologist seth berkley is one of its creators. >> if the goal is to really end the pandemic, you have to take a global view. we know this started in wuhan as a point outbreak. and within a few months, we had cases in 180 countries. this is not a virus that's going to stay contained. it's going to continue to move around unless we can tamp it down. >> the covax initiative has a very specific plan to end the pandemic. >> the goal of this is to have 2 billion doses available by the end of 2021, of which a billion doses would go to high-income and upper middle-income countries and a billion doses to low and lower middle income countries. >> covax will distribute those initial 2 billion doses to the people most likely to spread the virus. >> so the idea would be to try to vaccinate health care workers across the world. that's a relatively small percentage of the population. but they're at highest risk. >> more than 175 countries so far have signed on to the covax plan. and one company is already making vaccines for the big rollout. >> there's always been a race for making vaccines or drugs for emerging diseases and other things. but to compress that in a matter of a year or two years, that's what's really unprecedented. >> adar poonawalla is the ceo of the serum institute, the largest vaccine manufacturer in the world. the company was founded by adar's father, cyrus, who first used horse blood to create vaccines in the 1960s. today the horses are for racing while the factory churns out 1.5 billion doses of vaccines a year for every known ailment. serum says 65% of all children in the world receive at least one of its vaccines. and now even as trials continue, they have deals to mass produce five different covid vaccines. two of them will be given to health care workers through the covax program. in exchange for making the vaccines for the world, india gets half. >> i made it very clear even to the indian government that it's better to have a 50-50 percent strategy where anything coming out every month 50% would go to my country and 50% to the rest of the world, because we do want the rest of the world to also restart. >> the city of pune with a population of more than 6 million is one of the hardest hit areas of india. you don't have to go far outside the factory gates to understand how badly india needs a vaccine. so does the united states. but president trump decided not to participate in covax and for the united states to go it alone instead with its own program called operation warp speed. >> is that right? is that the smart approach? >> no, that is not the smart approach. the u.s. should be not only participating but should be a leader at the table. >> how would you assess president trump's leadership in this time of covid? >> well, i was asked earlier during the pandemic for a specific rating and i gave a d-minus as a response. and i would say it hasn't changed. you know, if you're running a company there's the old adage of the buck stops here with the ceo. well, the buck stops with the leader of our country. so you lay this at his feet. he could have created a national testing plan with good contact tracing, isolation and quarantine. vietnam did that. look at their numbers. they're outstanding. look at germany. look at new zealand. we should expect that of our leader, not what we have been getting. >> but president trump has done much more than just opt out of the worldwide plan to defeat the pandemic. he's made so many false statements about the virus, many americans have become totally confused and skeptical. >> it goes away in april. >> all work out fine. >> no reason to be panicked. >> it's like a miracle. it will disappear. >> we have an invisible enemy. we have a problem. this is a pandemic. >> they can't handle the bodies. >> i think that's really dangerous. and if people don't have the absolute trust, we may end up with a situation where we have a vaccine but people say i don't want to take this. >> and if people are not willing to take a vaccine, there's no point in making one. since my dvt blood clot... i wasn't sure... was another around the corner? 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>> certainly a bit of history for us. >> well, maybe for the planet. >> that would be nice. >> in the next room, lab techs were preparing blood to test samples from volunteers who'd taken the vaccine. so far, so good. the key thing here is to see what, that they're still producing antibodies several weeks into the trials. >> exactly. that's it. we can see they went from no antibodies to a really high amount because of the vaccine. >> but shattock had one more thing to show me. so what is this? >> this is now one of the vials of the actual vaccine that is going into the volunteers. >> so this is a vaccine. >> this is a vaccine. no longer a prototype. >> that is going into human beings right now. >> that's going into human beings in our clinical trial. >> and it all started with that original prototype. >> it all started with that prototype. >> so when worldwide distribution begins, is that what's going to be going around the world? tiny little bottles like that? >> yes. >> and then you put a syringe in, pull them out -- >> and inject it. >> did you think you were going to get from there to there? >> this is an exciting step, for sure. every step of the way is an exciting step. but at every step you might have success or failure. >> but before leaving, in a biosecure part of the lab, i asked him the all-important question. when do you realistically think, generally, we're going to have a vaccine ready to go? >> i think we'll see the first candidates coming through by the beginning of next year, but it will still be a huge effort to make them available for everybody who needs them. ♪ >> there are several vaccines in the united states nearly identical to this one and at the same stage of development, so americans will get them. all of the vaccines about to be rolled out work more or less like the flu shots many of us already take. they won't make you permanently immune to the coronavirus. instead, they tamp down infection rates across populations. so for years to come, people will still likely die from covid-19 just like every year people continue to die from the flu. but scientists say once enough people take these vaccines, the pandemic will end and we'll all get our lives back. how long that takes now depends more on politicians and drug companies. but the scientists, they've done their part. taste our delicious new flatbread pizzas today. panera. damom, look!get sare you okay?? 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million people, the virus was spreading. at first it seemed like a local problem. >> a newly identified deadly virus from china. >> the 45 cases have been reported in china, including two deaths. >> the chinese city of wuhan locked down. more than 600 infected. and it's spreading fast. fear it could spread further. >> it was over there, in china, where frankly they've had a lot of outbreaks over the years. >> china has reported 136 cases of the bird flu. >> emergence of the h10 and 8 strain follows that of the fatal h7 and 9 strain last year. >> the authorities are closing poultry markets in guangdong. >> china's desperate bid to control the latest bird flu virus. >> but this was no bird flu and the world soon began to take notice. st. mary's hospital in london has a long and storied history fighting disease. penicillin was discovered here in 1928. it revolutionized medicine. today, researchers here from imperial college are working for another radical breakthrough. >> i think we will see technology that completely changes the way vaccines are being made, and covid-19 is allowing us to try this technology. >> back in january, professor robin shattock was watching the news coming out of china with growing concern. >> at that stage it wasn't a pandemic. it was an outbreak in wuhan. at that stage when you've got a few thousand cases, it could be a blip, it could go away. >> why did you think that it would just be a china bug instead of a worldwide pandemic initially? >> because we've often seen small outbreaks of different viruses that come and disappear. >> but this virus wasn't disappearing. it was multiplying exponentially. >> when i heard about wuhan, i didn't pay that much attention to it until it was clear that it was escalating. >> professor peter piot has spent his long and celebrated career fighting infectious diseases. he and a colleague discovered ebola in the 1970s. piot was a pioneer in the battle against hiv and aids. >> for years i have been saying we have to be prepared for the next big one, an epidemic of a new virus that is transmitted airborne, respiratory transmitted and we are not prepared for it. sars killed hundreds of people but it was respiratory transmitted. and i saw in wuhan there were already far more cases than we had in total, had had with sars. and then i thought we're in trouble. >> i think it became that global pandemic because it's transmitted so easily. you've got asymptomatic transmission. and so it was almost impossible to lock the world down in a way that would have kept it contained in one part of the world. >> is that its hidden strength, that it can be passed on by people who don't know they're sick? >> yeah. i think that's the reason it got transmitted very efficiently. >> as the virus spread from one unsuspecting carrier to the next, china swung into action. its first move was to silence and discredit the doctor who sounded the alarm. when that didn't work, the government swooped in with all its authoritarian might. if you had a fever, you were found. and if you refused to go quietly, you were rounded up. and if you still refused, you were barricaded inside your home. but china did something else that few people noticed. it made a call for help, an appeal to the world, written in genetic code. >> each virus, just as each individual, we have a unique set of nucleic acids. this is the genetic code that really makes who we are in addition to our environment and our education. and you can identify a virus exactly on that kind of code. >> just like people, viruses are biological formulas. they are nothing more than strings of genetic code. and on january 10th, just weeks into the outbreak, chinese researchers did something extraordinary. they cracked the virus's code and published that code online. >> on the basis of that sequence you can also tell which parts of the virus are going to be important for the immune response, how we react to it. if you have that sequence, you can do a lot of things. >> that really provided everybody in the world with a blueprint that they could use for their different vaccine technologies. in many ways, that was firing the starting gun for all these different vaccine candidates. ♪ >> this is the code china published online. this is sars-cov-2. 30,000 characters. the exact formula for what has been disrupting all of our lives and killed more than a million people. by putting the formula online, china was saying to the world, here's the enemy, now help us defeat it. well, the best and brightest minds saw what china had posted and took up that challenge. >> once you have that code, the first thing you can do is to say this is new, we've never seen this virus before. and on the basis of that code you can replicate it in the lab. >> we felt actually we should stand up to the plate and make a vaccine. but that's when we started to get going. >> the race for a vaccine had now begun. and the first step was understanding the virus in minute detail. the coronavirus is a tiny sphere, so tiny that 100 million of them can fit on a pinhead. >> you can't see them under a normal microscope. viruses cannot survive without a living cell, whether that's animal or human or a plant cell, because they are incomplete in their survival mechanism. and that's why they always will be looking for human beings in the case of human viruses to survive. >> the coronavirus has a unique way of getting into our cells, through the spikes that act like little claws. >> they're called coronaviruses for a reason. you know, it's a crown with spikes. and it's these spikes that really are going to penetrate into the cells. >> they work as a kind of attachment process to gain entry into cells. so if you didn't have those bits on the surface, the virus would be dead. >> because it would be smooth. it would just move along, it wouldn't attach to anything. >> so the surface protein that the spikes recognize a receptor allows the virus to dock onto cells, gain entry into those cells, and initiate the infection process. >> the spikes are the virus's greatest weapon, but they are also its greatest weakness. and these tiny spikes are the target of every major vaccine in development. vaccines were first invented to treat smallpox 200 years ago by the british doctor edward jenner. >> generations of british children were vaccinated against smallpox. >> the national academy of sciences says there was not a single case of smallpox reported anywhere on this planet last year. >> and since they were first introduced, vaccines have barely changed. >> vaccines are actually biological products that try to mimic a natural infection. so you inject could be against measles or whatever, it's a fake infection. you fool the immune system. the immune system thinks that oh, i'm infected with measles. >> most of the vaccines we get and give our children today are for mumps, measles and rubella are simply dead or weakened versions of the harmful viruses. we trick our bodies into thinking they've been infected to trigger an immune response. our bodies do the rest. vaccines have saved more lives than any other medical discovery in human history. making vaccines has been a slow and labor-intensive process. they had to be grown, often in chicken eggs, one at a time. now, technology is changing everything. in the race for the covid vaccine, scientists are going right to the genetic code. there are more than 100 vaccines in development. they have different approaches, but they all have the same goal, to get our bodies to recognize those little spikes and prevent them from locking on. >> our body reacts because it's a foreign invasion. and one part of the defense are so-called antibodies. these are the ground troops. what they do is they protect the cell by basically coating the whole virus with antibodies so that the virus can't penetrate the cells. >> these antibodies lock onto the surface of the virus onto those spikes and mean that the virus can no longer get into the cell. so it's keeping it outside of the cells and rendering it noninfectious. >> finding a vaccine is the key to reopening our societies. it is the holy grail of medicine today. and the biggest surprise may be that scientists created a vaccine almost as soon as the virus broke out. back in january, when china published the genetic code online, professor shattock fed those 30,000 characters into a computer. the next day, he had a design for the vaccine, a recipe on a computer at least to kill the coronavirus. >> that's the speed at which people can move in terms of that design element. then the next thing is to take that computer-designed construct and actually put it together in a laboratory. >> to take it off of the computer screen and put it into the real world. >> yes. and that took a couple of weeks, to do that, to verify that it was working in the laboratory and then start looking at whether it actually induced an immune response in animals. >> but even that's mind-blowing. so you get the formula. in a day the computer spits out a code for the vaccine. and then just a few weeks later you have a product, a liquid in the real world that is a prototype vaccine. >> yeah. >> so here at this unassuming lab and at several laboratories worldwide, scientists had not just an idea for the vaccine, but a real prototype vaccine capable of neutralizing the coronavirus within weeks of the outbreak. >> but what we didn't know is whether it would work. whether it was safe. now, the real challenge is will it produce the right immune response in humans, and then will it be protective. >> and herein lies the problem. scientists were sure they could kill the virus, but would the cure kill us in the process? at the end of january, dozens of laboratories in asia, europe and the united states were focused on making a vaccine that was both safe and effective for the entire world. with so much at stake and so much to gain, the race for the vaccine got dirty 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a small number of brave volunteers try the drug to see if research should continue. phase two, an expanded number of volunteers take the vaccine, their health monitored regularly. and phase three, does it work on a large scale? tens of thousands of volunteers are given the vaccine to check for adverse reactions, which could be rare, but important when trying to vaccinate the entire world. russia only went to phase two and declared victory. >> i don't find it acceptable that you take shortcuts, injecting lots of people with materials that have not been really well documented for efficacy and safety is not something that would be acceptable here. if we would try to do that, it would be not only unethical, but also it would deter people from being vaccinated. >> if i didn't believe in the vaccine, if i didn't understand the science behind it, i would never have injected myself with it. >> kirill dmitriev is the head of a russian state-controlled investment fund. he's part of putin's inner circle, and he's the pitch man for russia's main vaccine. what would you say to people who are skeptical, say i don't want to take some russian vaccine that's been rushed through the system? >> of course, people will have a choice. i think, again, we need to make sure that different countries have a choice, have all of the data available. you know, we could have been very hidden about our vaccine. we could have just vaccinated our people, not sharing the nature of the vaccine, not sharing information. but this is not the approach we are taking and i think, again, this is something that has to be respected. >> putin said he even gave his daughter the vaccine. putin has two daughters. he's very secretive about them. one is believed to be a scientist. the other, a competitive rock 'n' roll dancer. he didn't say which one took the vaccine. russia wasn't alone. china has gone even further. it has begun rolling out its vaccines, giving doses to medical personnel, the military and students. china seems to be doing some phase three trials, the ones that test for side effects in large populations, on its own people. >> clearly, the national prestige, projection of scientific prowess, my system of government is better than yours, capitalism versus communism, all of that is at play. i think that the race for a covid vaccine is the race for the moon on steroids. >> lawrence gostin is a professor of global health law at georgetown university. he was also on the board for pandemics at the world health organization. >> it really is becoming a geopolitical race for bragging and boasting rights. >> i don't think we should fool anyone to think there is a collaborative mindset across the globe with nation states in this effort. it's a battle space economically, geopolitically and medically. >> bill evanina is the top counterintelligence official in the united states. he's the u.s. government's most senior spy hunter. >> we continue to see efforts by both russia and china and others to not only beat us to the race with producing the vaccine, but also aggressive attempts to steal what we are producing in the trial faces, in the research and development phase. >> is right now the vaccine the primary target that hackers and cyber spies are trying to discover, steal? >> there's probably not a whole lot that's more important in the world right now than the race for this vaccine. ♪ >> hackers almost certainly linked to russian intelligence have been targeting scientists in britain who are carrying out research into a vaccine for coronavirus. >> we've sort of been seeing targeting from a whole range of actors. the one we called out specifically was russia. >> paul chichester heads operations at the uk's cybersecurity division at gchq, britain's equivalent to the nsa. >> we really saw sort of a pivot, if you like, from perhaps more traditional targets to take an interest in the uk's response to coronavirus when sort of the world was really i think realizing just the significance and importance of the situation that it found itself in. >> chichester's unit spent months monitoring russia as its agents picked and probed the computer systems of the united kingdom's top laboratories. these are direct operatives working for the government? >> in this instance, we believe it is russian intelligence services directly. >> british officials say they caught the russians as they tried to steal data from oxford university and its vaccine manufacturing partner, astrazeneca. >> in terms of dirty tricks, i mean, specifically what we've seen and assessed is potentially theft of intellectual property and the data behind trials and some of the research. >> american authorities and british authorities have accused russia of hacking, of trying to steal scientific information regarding vaccines. what do you say to that? >> i think false accusations are by some of the people who are afraid of russia having sort of a sputnik moment with the vaccine. of being the first out there when there is nobody else out there. but we, again, are not focused on being the first. we are focused on international cooperation and we believe in the time of such difficulty the world needs to put the previous political barriers and biases aside. >> but while russia claims to be the epitome of global cooperation, state media have spread disinformation and cartoons smearing rival vaccines, suggesting they could turn you into monkeys. how successful have they been? how much have they managed to steal, how much have they managed to disrupt, destroy, confuse? >> i really can't get into what they've potentially stolen or what their operational success is, but let's just say they've been super aggressive. some in our community would say a lot of the work being done in russia and china has already been predicated upon stolen research here in the u.s. >> how do you know that? >> we see a lot of the same signatures on our vaccines as we see on their vaccines. there's only one place they could have gotten it from. >> in july the u.s. government formally accused two chinese government-linked hackers of stealing american covid vaccine research. the u.s. also ordered closed the chinese consulate in houston, texas, labeling it a center of espionage. as chinese officials were leaving, consulate staff could be seen burning what appear to be documents outside the building. >> i would say covid right now has become the geopolitical economic battle space as we move forward to the next couple years. 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is that frightening? how do you understand it? >> it's anxiety. i think that's the feeling amongst most people. it's just this deep-rooted anxiety. and yet we're starting all over again. >> how are you holding up personally? >> okay. i've got an old victorian house that i'm renovating so that keeps me busy. when i come home from work, i sort my house out. i've got my family. i've got my children and my partner and my dog. they keep my spirits up. >> you're able to find some relief for the stress. >> both my children, 23 and 19, both had covid. they were both tested positive. they were quite sick at home. >> ready, steady. >> a vaccine, what would it mean for you? what would it mean to this hospital? >> a vaccine would be a lifesaver. >> would it give you more confidence? >> nurses and doctors feel quite anxious every time you come to work. you're putting yourself at risk and you're going home and putting your family at risk as well. >> and the risk is compounded over time. >> yes. every day you're having to risk. but now it's every day for months and months and months. >> and months. >> the only way to break this covid cycle is a vaccine. we know scientists had a prototype for a vaccine right at the beginning based on the virus's genetic code that china posted online. >> in some ways, the fast and easy part is making the vaccine, because it's all about genetic code and synthetic biology. so we were able to create a prototype within two weeks. so very, very quick. >> we're injecting biological materials in healthy people and we are going to inject that in billions of people who need it to save the world from this pandemic. so we can't take shortcuts. the only way to find out is to observe in the utmost detail tens of thousands of people for long enough that we have certainty that this vaccine is really safe. >> and the best place to test the vaccine is where the virus is out of control. covid hit south africa hard. >> south africa has reported a sharp rise in the number of coronavirus infections. nearly 11,000 new cases were reported on saturday. >> south african officials have warned that the country's health system is approaching the brink. >> the coronavirus storm has indeed arrived, as we said it would. >> especially in the townships. elvis mathingua is a life insurance salesman in soweto, the township once famous for resisting apartheid. today it's battling covid. >> how are you? good. >> i just wanted to find a cure because now this covid-19 has changed south africa a lot. >> elvis is one of 5,000 south african volunteers taking part in trials for vaccines from the uk's astrazeneca and the american drug company novavax. elvis sees the trial as an opportunity to help his generation's struggle. >> i decided to volunteer to get this cure so that i can be able to assist the day all of south africa with this new vaccine that we are trying out now. >> but there's another reason elvis is volunteering. the trial comes with free health care. >> there's a lot of things that were happening to me besides the trial of the covid-19 because they will be testing like everything, the blood. because if you go to a doctor and want to do those tests personally, you pay a lot of money. we don't have that kind of money. >> but many south africans are angry. they feel drug companies are treating africans like guinea pigs. >> i'm not happy at all. this feels like 1981 all over again, or the 1980s all over again, when the aids pandemic broke out. it's a replay, but this time they're doing it in our face. >> resentment over testing in africa is turning people against the vaccine. >> would you take the vaccine? >> never. >> no. >> the vaccine for me is like they are going to kill black people. >> elvis's own family won't see him. >> like my big brother. i've told him on saturday that i started with the study of the vaccine. and then if you are -- on monday i'm going back there. let's go back there. he refused. he said no, no, don't go there. they'll inject you with this covid-19. >> but even with the virus raging in south africa, elvis never caught it. so researchers don't know if the vaccine he's taken works or not. his trial is inconclusive. in the united kingdom, they've come up with a controversial way to guarantee results. a secure wing has been set up at london's royal free hospital where volunteers will be infected with the coronavirus on purpose. 90 healthy volunteers aged 18 to 30 will come to the hospital, get vaccinated, and then tilt their heads back and be given tiny droplets of the coronavirus. in a normal trial the volunteers might never contract the virus. here the virus meets the vaccine every single time. which is why it's called a challenge trial. it's bold. it gets results. but it is not for the faint-hearted. >> instead of going about your everyday life in the community, you would instead have a stay in a biocontainment facility where you would be intentionally exposed to sars-cov-2. >> sophie rose is a graduate student from johns hopkins university living and studying in the uk. >> is anyone signing up to do this, raising their hand saying sure, infect me with coronavirus? >> over 30,000 people from 150 countries. we have found ourselves in a situation where we have hundreds of millions of people facing abject poverty. we have economies that are falling apart and countries that aren't functioning properly. and a lot of that really can't be resolved until we see a vaccine that is distributed on a level that we've never had to do before. we think it's of utmost importance that we get that happening as soon as possible because that gets us one day sooner to getting back to normal. >> what happens if one of these volunteers dies? >> when these sorts of trials are designed and you're consenting people and explaining how this works, they are definitely informed and it is acknowledged that there is a risk of death. >> you're not a supporter of challenge trials. why not? >> i'm not a supporter of challenge trials at the moment. because what do they do? they inject healthy volunteers with the virus for which we have no cure at the moment. if we would have a cure, an effective treatment, i would be all for it. >> but they're volunteers, young men and women sign up to go to war. >> that's a good point. but we also have medical ethics. and ethics say that you should not harm people if there are no backup to save them. can you go into experiments that used to be done that we don't do these days anymore. >> but no matter how much risk volunteers are willing to take, the vaccine's success or failure depends entirely on distribution. hey, dad! hey, son! no dad, it's a video call. you got to move the phone in front of you like... like it's a mirror, dad. you know? 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>> vaccines are not going to be the silver bullet. it's unlikely that certainly the first generation of vaccines are going to protect 100%. the fda has said that if it protects 50% of people against severe disease and dying from it, then it can be approved. so it's not necessarily going to stop the spread of the virus. >> if you want to control the virus spread by blocking transmission, then you need to probably have very high rates of vaccination. that may need to be 70%, 80% of any population. >> it's like the fire brigade. if the house is on fire of your neighbor, you can't say i don't want to support the fire brigade because it's only my neighbor's home. no, we need it all. >> luckily, there is a worldwide fire brigade. >> the co-vax pillar aims to ensure that every country gets fair and equitable access to eventual covid-19 vaccines. >> its name is covax, an international vaccine coalition which may be the most important initiative today that most people have never heard of. american epidemiologist seth berkley is one of its creators. >> if the goal is to really end the pandemic, you have to take a global view. we know this started in wuhan as a point outbreak. and within a few months, we had cases in 180 countries. this is not a virus that's going to stay contained. it's going to continue to move around unless we can tamp it down. >> the covax initiative has a very specific plan to end the pandemic. >> the goal of this is to have 2 billion doses available by the end of 2021, of which a billion doses would go to high-income and upper middle-income countries and a billion doses to low and lower middle income countries. >> covax will distribute those initial 2 billion doses to the people most likely to spread the virus. >> so the idea would be to try to vaccinate health care workers across the world. that's a relatively small percentage of the population. but they're at highest risk. >> more than 175 countries so far have signed on to the covax plan. and one company is already making vaccines for the big rollout. >> there's always been a race for making vaccines or drugs for emerging diseases and other things. but to compress that in a matter of a year or two years, that's what's really unprecedented. >> adar poonawalla is the ceo of the serum institute, the largest vaccine manufacturer in the world. the company was founded by adar's father, cyrus, who first used horse blood to create vaccines in the 1960s. today the horses are for racing while the factory churns out 1.5 billion doses of vaccines a year for every known ailment. serum says 65% of all children in the world receive at least one of its vaccines. and now even as trials continue, they have deals to mass produce five different covid vaccines. two of them will be given to health care workers through the covax program. in exchange for making the vaccines for the world, india gets half. >> i made it very clear even to the indian government that it's better to have a 50-50 percent strategy where anything coming out every month 50% would go to my country and 50% to the rest of the world, because we do want the rest of the world to also restart. >> the city of pune with a population of more than 6 million is one of the hardest hit areas of india. you don't have to go far outside the factory gates to understand how badly india needs a vaccine. so does the united states. but president trump decided not to participate in covax and for the united states to go it alone instead with its own program called operation warp speed. >> is that right? is that the smart approach? >> no, that is not the smart approach. the u.s. should be not only participating but should be a leader at the table. >> how would you assess president trump's leadership in this time of covid? >> well, i was asked earlier during the pandemic for a specific rating and i gave a d-minus as a response. and i would say it hasn't changed. you know, if you're running a company there's the old adage of the buck stops here with the ceo. well, the buck stops with the leader of our country. so you lay this at his feet. he could have created a national testing plan with good contact tracing, isolation and quarantine. vietnam did that. look at their numbers. they're outstanding. look at germany. look at new zealand. we should expect that of our leader, not what we have been getting. >> but president trump has done much more than just opt out of the worldwide plan to defeat the pandemic. he's made so many false statements about the virus, many americans have become totally confused and skeptical. >> it goes away in april. >> all work out fine. >> no reason to be panicked. >> it's like a miracle. it will disappear. >> we have an invisible enemy. we have a problem. this is a pandemic. >> they can't handle the bodies. >> i think that's really dangerous. and if people don't have the absolute trust, we may end up with a situation where we have a vaccine but people say i don't want to take this. >> and if people are not willing to take a vaccine, there's no point in making one. since my dvt blood clot... i wasn't sure... was another around the corner? 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>> certainly a bit of history for us. >> well, maybe for the planet. >> that would be nice. >> in the next room, lab techs were preparing blood to test samples from volunteers who'd taken the vaccine. so far, so good. the key thing here is to see what, that they're still producing antibodies several weeks into the trials. >> exactly. that's it. we can see they went from no antibodies to a really high amount because of the vaccine. >> but shattock had one more thing to show me. so what is this? >> this is now one of the vials of the actual vaccine that is going into the volunteers. >> so this is a vaccine. >> this is a vaccine. no longer a prototype. >> that is going into human beings right now. >> that's going into human beings in our clinical trial. >> and it all started with that original prototype. >> it all started with that prototype. >> so when worldwide distribution begins, is that what's going to be going around the world? tiny little bottles like that? >> yes. >> and then you put a syringe in, pull them out -- >> and inject it. >> did you think you were going to get from there to there? 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