He was once one of the most powerful politicians in the country. He joins a long list of city and state officials here no wlo have come through these doors behind me facing criminal charges. Sources now tell nbc news that hastert was paying a man to keep silent about sexual misconduct. His attorney thomas green. Represents clients in Major National scandals from water gate to the ann contra. Who is individual a. Even though denny has been accused of doing horrific things, it may be hard for the prosecution to make its case. Out of sight since he was indwighted two weeks a ago, Dennis Hastert appeared in court this afternoon for his arraignment. Hastert left the federal court in chicago just moments ago having entered a plea of not guilty to federal charges that he tried to hide illegal Bank Withdrawals and then lied to the fine about it all to make hush money payments to cover up past sexual misconduct. Law enforcement officials have confirmed that the past misconduct was sexual in nature and involved a male student at the school where he taught and worked as a wrestling coach. Hastert has not been charged with sexual abuse. Bond was set at 4500. Joining me now megan mccartel, joan walsh, e. J. Dionne and brian weic eflt. Brian a, there was some debate whether hastert might plead guilty. We draw anything from the fact that he pled not guilty . Sure. I think the fact that he hired thomas green who is they say in the mob is a made guy, this is one of the elite criminal against lawyers in all of the country. And for those of you folks on the panel that dont remember water gate, that was actually a pretty big deal back then. I think a lot of us remember it. Nobody in a case of this magnitude is going to plead guilty at a preliminary appearance. I think this is a case that the prosecution is going to be hard pressed to make on so many levels. Anybody that has ever watched law and order marathon recognizes that the instructing statute that Denny Hastert has been charged with doesnt apply to people like this. Its dope dealers, terrorists, gang oigbangers. It will be difficult to try to convince a jury that the spirit and somehow the letter of the law will apply to Denny Hastert. There is a technicality which almost seems to be the thing that Dennis Hastert is on the hook for and then there are the ethical questions which are not technically or are not actually going to be litigated in a court of law, but are absolutely part of the discussion in and around anything pertaining to Dennis Hastert at this moment in time. Well, thats entirely true and i think what youre also going to see and youre already seeing is a revisiting of the hastert years in congress. There was a piece on how this whole episode puts the entire tenure that hastert had in the house under new scrutiny and in a different light. I do think that technically fll be the question and well know more about how the fbi questioned him about whether what the meaning of the word yeah is, if i may pick up on an old phrase in his answer to the fbi guy. But on the ethical front, youve not only got the accusations which has you carefully pointed out arent on the table about some sort of sex all behavior back then, you also have the fact that he responded very slowly to a whole series ofall behavior back then, you also have the fact that he responded very slowly to a whole series of ethical issues that came up in the congress. Steve schmidt said the slowness and reticence of hastert back then particularly on the marg follow mark foley case all will come out again. And so i dont think republicans want to visit this but as Steve Schmidt said i think a lot of republicans will be an sgri again at some of the things that happened in that old congress. Yeah it brings to mind the sort of waterfall of moral failure that came to characterize that moment of leadership. As well as the clinton impeachment fiasco. You had newt gingrich, Bob Livingston and finally hastert, the clean one. I cant weigh in on whether im be convicted or not. Hes not been charged with sexual be abuse. But it also occurs to me this man was a wrestling coach. I wish wrestling coaches and teachers made enough money to pay an estimated 3. 5 million well, we wish wrestling coaches didnt have to pay anybody off. Of course but they could give their children wed like teachers to make more yes. Well divorce those two. But really it just raises questions about what this rather undistinguished speaker did after he left the house and what he did was pedal his influence and get himself very, very rich. And we are learning now that he sort of tried to fast track the amount of money that he could makes a lobby he is potentially so he could afford these payouts. Of course we dont know. He is, potentially so he could afford these payouts. Of course we dont know. Maybe we will. Who knows what happens in the court of law. But i think the disappointing thing, lobbying is a bipartisan bias. Its the same thing. Government has a lot of money to hand out and it can did a lot of damage to your business and that means that companies have a lot of money to spend on trying to keep the government from doing that. And im not really sure there is a way to stop that. I think its more about making sure government doesnt do anything to regulate it. You see Something Like obamacare, probably one of the most heavily lobbied bills in history because there were so Many Industries that were potentially affected by all the decisions they were making. And that actually drove a lot of the developments that you saw in how the law was structured and so forth. Thats unfortunately the nature of the beast. E. J. Go ahead. I think when you look back at the hastert years, thats when earmarks really got a bad name. In the olden days earmarks were postally about a bridge you wanted in your district that people there wanted or help to your local Community College or something. And in the hastert years, they got associated with a lot of first of all, they ballooned and secondly, they got associated with special interest favors including in hasterts case a road that helped a development that he ended up own something land that got involved in that the Chicago Tribune reported that story at the time, it all kind of went away. That will be revisitedic, too. Not as a legal matter but people are already talking about it. I want to say one thing in defense of wrestling coaches, i was a High School Wrestler and i had a great wrestling coach. And so lets not fault were not painting them all exactly. Defend the class. I want to go back to some of the specifics of the case. I just found out and i think most people are just finding out that the u. S. District judge Thomas Durkin handling this case, hes actually given money to hasterts political campaigns in the year 2002 and 2004 500 and 1,000 respectively. That seems like pea nuts but nonetheless, the fact that the judge residing over the case gave money to hastert to get reelected to office would seem to pose a really significant question in terms of objectivity. But it doesnt look like its made that may waves. Thats a great point. The money was given at a time when the district judge was in private practice. And here in text,nin texas, its not just chicken feed. Thats not your bar tab. And its not that anybody has necessarily given money to a political candidate who may now be a defendant in your court. Its whether a reasonable person, the people that watch this this Great Network watching all the facts and circumstances would have a reasonable doubt about that judges ability to be fair. And this is a well respected district judge in the Northern District of illinois and i really think if im the prosecutor, i mean got to understand that if and when this case goes to trial, Denny Hastert will be judged pie people who elected him. And so if im the u. S. Attorney im not going to fight a battle by trying to get rid of a judge that i may not be able to win. And two if im got to look petty in the process. Holding ones fire power, i believe its called. Thank you both for your time. After the break, well discuss the disturbing video showing a Police Officer throwing a 15yearold to the ground and drawing his gun on teens at a texas pool party. The community is calling for the officers badge. Plus jeb bush takes his noncampaign campaign overseas, but is europe the best place for bush . And later bachelor Lindsey Graham, senator Lindsey Graham promises a rotating first lady. Rotating first lady if hes elected president. Really. When i started at the shelter, no one wanted benny. 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The officer Eric Casebolt who has been placed on administrative leave pending investigation, how exactly the scuffle began is still unclear the police say they were called because there was a disturbance and uninvited people refused to leave the swimming pool. One witness told Lawrence Odonnell that the incident began after a group of ypg black men showed up and tried to get into the pool. Later on during the party, a group of black men, young men, were at the gate of the pool trying to get let in and we werent them at the party and anything, so we told no one to let them in. So they went to the side of the pool and then started hopping the fence and thats when like some of the parents started complaining about it. They called the cops and thats when the cops began coming. Another witness told chris hayes that it was a racial slur that started it all. A very racial comment, racial slur, to a group of teenagers. And we felt the need to step in and say something. And then that broke out into a lady getting physical and violent. And then thats when the cops were called. Joining us now is special projects director for the National DomesticWorker Alliance and black lives Matter Movement alisha garza and joy reid. Joy, youre on the ground. This is one of those things where finding one single narrative about what started it all is proving complicated. Do you have any clarity to add . Reporter well, you know what, i think just from all of the collective stories of the various young people who have been talking to me including to msnbc, what appears to have happened really was rooted in a conflict over who was in the pool. What it turns out at least it appears that there were a small group of white parents who objected first to the number of kids who were in the pool this is a predominantly africanamerican party thrown by apafrican american resident that lives in the community and posted it on social media so some of the other school mates came and then a wider group came. And that escalated the conflict. There are a couple accounts that also say two adult women got into verbal confrontations with minors with teens, and then in two separate incidences got into physical altercations allegedly striking two teens in separate incidents. The police got called. There is a consistent story that one adult we believe is a third person not one of the two women is the person who told the kids go back to your section eight housing. Well, they live there, so that was sort of a problem. And that that escalated things further. Once the police got there, however, it was very clear that we dont know what the 911 call said but they were specifically targeting the africanamerican kids and trying to get them to sit down on the grass and then sort of the mayhem that you saw. And i guess there are many strikes things about this but the targeting of specifically the young black i think presumably students who were at this event, and the fact that from all the accounts weve heard the aggression was mostly on the part of white residents or white people who were in attendance. Another video shows two white women fighting with teens. I dont know if we can play that. But i wonder if you have any information on that. Theyre pulling each others hair. Theyre not being stopped by police. And i can tell you that one of the things that i have been doing is trying to get the identities of a lot of the adults walking away including the man in the khaki sort of tan shirt freely Walking Around the scene. There were at least twoed a account adult men who were walking clearly around. The two women, we havent been able to confirm their names. But the kids are saying that one of those two women confronted the 14yearold young white girl saying things to her that is negative. Tatiana burke stepped in shes the girl who threw the party. She said you cant speak to her, shes only 14. And then send she was struck by that woman. And in a separate incident a 19yearold girl who was a frebts friend of tatiana, this friend also got into a physical confrontation with this other woman. And the 911 calls were related to quote unquote fights that were happening, but the police to our knowledge at least did not question those women. By the way havent been able to get much information out of the Police Department either. These Police Violence videos that have come out each one sort of offers a new and distressing lens on to the treatment of minority persons specifically black americans byment officials. This one really stands out to me because it zeros in on the violence perpetrated against black women. And the visual of this young girl who is nearly naked, shes in a bathing suit, being held down by face in the ground like an animal by an armed white officer that literally almost gives you chills. Talk to me about the underdiscussed aspect of violence and black women in america. Sure. First of all, we should just note that this isnt a new type of occurrence. Again, thankfully for technology now these types of incidents are being broadcast all over the world. But certainly while there is a lot of focus on young black men being murdered by the police there is not as much focus on the prevalence of black women being abused by the police. So we know black women are more likely to be assaulted by Police Officers and then of course we know that black women are the Fastest Growing population in prison and jails in this country. And we incarcerate more than 2. 5 Million People which is more than anywhere else in the world. Right. So certainly when i watch this video im sad and im angry and really rage is the word that comes to mind. Certainly what we saw in this video, these children are being robbed of their childhood. They are having a good time on the last day of school and certainly what theyre being shown not just by these officers but certainly people in their community is that their lives dont matter. Thats why we see an adult, grown man, sworn to protect and serve everyone hard to imagine hes doing either. Literally dig his knees into his back after she says i have back problems, after shes screaming for her mother. He intentionally continues to abuse her. We also see in this video that there are many people who are Milling Around and some of those folks who are close to the officer as hes trying to subdue not subdue. Cease shes not doing anything. He keeps saying stop fighting me and shes lying on the ground face down. There is the gender aspect also the class aspect. I think one of the things that has caught the attention of the nation, and im not sure that its necessarily fair that this seems to have more weight than your average police brewutality video, but the fact that this took place in a middle class neighborhood that was to some degree racially integrated, the fact that i think a lot of people who see those kids white, black, whatever color, and i know those kid. Those kids go to school with my kids. Those kids live down the treat. And that has prompted a level of outrage. I dont think anyone will argue middle class kids arent as vulnerable as kids in disadvantaged neighborhoods. But i do think that that is what makes it powerful. And if there is good news to come out of this, i think it is for that for years, police have always had deny ability. If you dont have social capital, youre extremely unlikely to get redress. Ability. If you dont have social capital, youre extremely unlikely to get redress. Now technology are actually capturing what are inappropriate tactics and showing the world like, no we cannot let them and i think that as we see more body cameras deployed i think that as other Technology Comes into play, that will be a real force for good. So not the to down play this but the happy news is that this sort of thing is what changes it. The question is about the solution. Buoy has an interesting historical perspective, are the recreation and swimming. Which is you know, when i think about jim crow i think about black people not being allowed into white swimming pools and black people not being allowed to white water fountains. Just the image that sticks with you. And he concludes every part of this will incident from the setting of a private pool and predominantly white suburb to the angry neighbors and eventual violence is informed by our fraught history of race and swimming. 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